On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 2:36 PM, Buz Johnson

<wa5amm.sc.usa@...> wrote:

Jim,

I hate your having this problem with such a fine rig as the TS-890S.  I'm not sure I can be of much help, but I might suggest that you try another program like Fldigi or HRD to eliminate if it is a rig problem or software issue with Mixw.  Right now you don't know if it is your rig or Mixw you're having an issue with so eliminating one or the other might help you focus on the problem.  I believe you did have the TS-590SG before and you were having problems with it and thought you were using HRD.  I may have run into something similar on my TS590SG and would like to talk to you about it if I may.  Send me your phone number or call 864 907-2596.

73,

Buz, WA5AMM

"May the best you've ever been, be the worst you'll ever see"

On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 1:37 PM Jim K5SP <jinnis@...> wrote:

Is there anyone out there that is using a TS-890 with MixW software that might have a solution for my problem.
I have set up the rig according to the manual, and have set the Data input to be from the rear USB port.  I have set up the CAT with the Mixw to use the virtual ports provided by the driver.
I am able to receive and decode signals from the rig in MixW.  Cat  is working, it properly reads the frequency and displays in the waterfall.  CAT will key rig.  And that is were the problem starts,
the rig keys, but there is no output.

K6MG, KK6M and I have spent hours on this issue with no change.  There is nothing in the TS-890 or MixW groups that help.  Until this is resolved, I am unable to operate PSK, missed Triple Play because of this.

--
Jim,  K5SP #483
Executive Director/Member Services Director

--
de, WA5AMM, Buz

On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 2:36 PM, Buz Johnson

<wa5amm.sc.usa@...> wrote:

Jim,

I hate your having this problem with such a fine rig as the TS-890S.  I'm not sure I can be of much help, but I might suggest that you try another program like Fldigi or HRD to eliminate if it is a rig problem or software issue with Mixw.  Right now you don't know if it is your rig or Mixw you're having an issue with so eliminating one or the other might help you focus on the problem.  I believe you did have the TS-590SG before and you were having problems with it and thought you were using HRD.  I may have run into something similar on my TS590SG and would like to talk to you about it if I may.  Send me your phone number or call 864 907-2596.

73,

Buz, WA5AMM

"May the best you've ever been, be the worst you'll ever see"

On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 1:37 PM Jim K5SP <jinnis@...> wrote:

Is there anyone out there that is using a TS-890 with MixW software that might have a solution for my problem.
I have set up the rig according to the manual, and have set the Data input to be from the rear USB port.  I have set up the CAT with the Mixw to use the virtual ports provided by the driver.
I am able to receive and decode signals from the rig in MixW.  Cat  is working, it properly reads the frequency and displays in the waterfall.  CAT will key rig.  And that is were the problem starts,
the rig keys, but there is no output.

K6MG, KK6M and I have spent hours on this issue with no change.  There is nothing in the TS-890 or MixW groups that help.  Until this is resolved, I am unable to operate PSK, missed Triple Play because of this.

--
Jim,  K5SP #483
Executive Director/Member Services Director

--
de, WA5AMM, Buz

On Nov 15, 2022, at 7:56 PM, Jim K5SP <jinnis@...> wrote:

Okay, I have tried:

MixW3.2.105

Digipan

PskExpress

Fldigi (can't get it work at all, probably operator error).

All with same results. 

So frustrated. Quitting for the night, and have to be at VA hospital in Dallas tomorrow. 

Keep the ideas coming.

Jim K5SP 

Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android

On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 2:36 PM, Buz Johnson

<wa5amm.sc.usa@...> wrote:

Jim,

I hate your having this problem with such a fine rig as the TS-890S.  I'm not sure I can be of much help, but I might suggest that you try another program like Fldigi or HRD to eliminate if it is a rig problem or software issue with Mixw.  Right now you don't know if it is your rig or Mixw you're having an issue with so eliminating one or the other might help you focus on the problem.  I believe you did have the TS-590SG before and you were having problems with it and thought you were using HRD.  I may have run into something similar on my TS590SG and would like to talk to you about it if I may.  Send me your phone number or call 864 907-2596.

73,

Buz, WA5AMM

"May the best you've ever been, be the worst you'll ever see"

On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 1:37 PM Jim K5SP <jinnis@...> wrote:

Is there anyone out there that is using a TS-890 with MixW software that might have a solution for my problem.
I have set up the rig according to the manual, and have set the Data input to be from the rear USB port.  I have set up the CAT with the Mixw to use the virtual ports provided by the driver.
I am able to receive and decode signals from the rig in MixW.  Cat  is working, it properly reads the frequency and displays in the waterfall.  CAT will key rig.  And that is were the problem starts,
the rig keys, but there is no output.

K6MG, KK6M and I have spent hours on this issue with no change.  There is nothing in the TS-890 or MixW groups that help.  Until this is resolved, I am unable to operate PSK, missed Triple Play because of this.

--
Jim,  K5SP #483
Executive Director/Member Services Director

--
de, WA5AMM, Buz

--
Jim,  K5SP #483
Executive Director/Member Services Director

Jim -

The fact that you have the same result from multiple programs pretty much says that it's not MixW (or Digipan or PSK Express) that is causing the problem. (That was also shown when you set up MixW to output to your speakers, and you heard warbling.)

So what else is there? 

- The USB cable would seem to be okay (since you can receive, and CAT will trigger Tx) but you could swap it for a different one. 

- Could you try another USB port on your computer?

- Do you have another computer you could (temporarily) load with any one of the digimode programs and try connecting with that? 

Beyond that, is it possible that the (new) radio has a bad interface? Or that its Tx audio codec is bad?

You say you've asked for help on the other message boards about the TS890S and MixW. I almost hesitate to make this suggestion on the 070 reflector, but maybe you could get a little more traction with the message boards if you also had the problem with another much more popular program like WSJT-X. I know that you have no interest in actually using that mode. But if it has the same problem (and I would think it would), maybe you'd get more help on those other boards. If they help you figure it out, then you should be able to translate that into a fix for MixW. And if they can't, then maybe they can help point you to a way to prove it's the (new) radio.

Just some thoughts...

Steve

W3HF

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim K5SP <jinnis@...>
To: main@070Club.groups.io
Sent: Tue, Nov 15, 2022 7:55 pm
Subject: Re: [070Club] Rig Help

Okay, I have tried:

MixW3.2.105

Digipan

PskExpress

Fldigi (can't get it work at all, probably operator error).

All with same results. 

So frustrated. Quitting for the night, and have to be at VA hospital in Dallas tomorrow. 

Keep the ideas coming.

Jim K5SP 

Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android

On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 2:36 PM, Buz Johnson

<wa5amm.sc.usa@...> wrote:

Jim,

I hate your having this problem with such a fine rig as the TS-890S.  I'm not sure I can be of much help, but I might suggest that you try another program like Fldigi or HRD to eliminate if it is a rig problem or software issue with Mixw.  Right now you don't know if it is your rig or Mixw you're having an issue with so eliminating one or the other might help you focus on the problem.  I believe you did have the TS-590SG before and you were having problems with it and thought you were using HRD.  I may have run into something similar on my TS590SG and would like to talk to you about it if I may.  Send me your phone number or call 864 907-2596.

73,

Buz, WA5AMM

"May the best you've ever been, be the worst you'll ever see"

On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 1:37 PM Jim K5SP <jinnis@...> wrote:

Is there anyone out there that is using a TS-890 with MixW software that might have a solution for my problem.
I have set up the rig according to the manual, and have set the Data input to be from the rear USB port.  I have set up the CAT with the Mixw to use the virtual ports provided by the driver.
I am able to receive and decode signals from the rig in MixW.  Cat  is working, it properly reads the frequency and displays in the waterfall.  CAT will key rig.  And that is were the problem starts,
the rig keys, but there is no output.

K6MG, KK6M and I have spent hours on this issue with no change.  There is nothing in the TS-890 or MixW groups that help.  Until this is resolved, I am unable to operate PSK, missed Triple Play because of this.

--
Jim,  K5SP #483
Executive Director/Member Services Director

--
de, WA5AMM, Buz

--
Jim,  K5SP #483
Executive Director/Member Services Director

- The "missing some little setting" I would think is most likely. That's where I think the WSJT option may trigger either some observation as you set it up, or give better opportunities for other (non-PSK) support forums.

To all, that care to journey with us on Jim's, K5SP, problem with his getting his TS-890S to "merge"

with MixW 3.2.105.

Roy, KK6M, Jim, K5SP, and me, N6MG, were on a conference call for close to 2 hours going thru 

every setting, and combo of settings for both MixW and the Kenwood TS-890.

All is working and communicating as it should, 

EXCEPT,

No audio out!

CAT settings are correct. Jim can key the rig; his waterfall is good, and he can decode from his waterfall.

PTT works, all baud rates are set correctly, and the COM Ports are in sync in both CAT & PTT.

We've tried every combination of the RTS & DTR on both the CAT & PTT settings.

All MixW and Jim's computer sound settings say, "USB Audio Codec" as their default setting.

Steve, Eric, & Buz: We've done all of what you're suggesting. Of course, we're using the radio's internal

sound card. Yes, the radio is connected to the computer via a USB A to C cable. 

And as Jim has told us, he's tried 2 different computers with the same results. By using 2 

different computers all we've proven is that it doesn't appear to be a computer setting. 

Agreed; we've tried everything except changing out the USB A to C cable. Very remote chance of that 

being the problem, but we discussed it on our conference call, and Jim will try that as soon as he locates his spare. 

Bottom line: When Jim hits his "TX/RX" macro, his radio goes into Xmit, but no audio coming out.

Personally, I think there's 1 setting, somewhere that isn't set correctly. Hopefully it's just 1.

I joined the K'wood TS-890S Groups.io and asked for assistance. We've asked for assistance in 

the MixW User's group also. A lot of suggestions, but no positive results.

We're also in contact with Yuri, VE3DZ, who is the MixW/Rig Expert person on this side of the globe. He's 

helped many times in the past.

Experienced suggestions are definitely welcome.

Milt.

N6MG

070-650  

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim K5SP <jinnis@...>
To: main@070Club.groups.io
Sent: Wed, Nov 16, 2022 5:30 am
Subject: Re: [070Club] Rig Help

I did forget to mention that I have a laptop that I used upon which I installed MixW and digipan.  The result was the same. So, based upon all this, it seems to be narrowed down to the USB cable, or we are missing some little setting on the software cat and/or the rig itself. 

I, like you have searched you tube for a video, and all I could find was FT8.  One would assume that it would be the same for PSK. 

I will be stuck in Dallas at the VA for most of the day.  I dread this trip as the VA is on the southeast side of Dallas and I have to drive home through all the rush hour afternoon traffic.  Will be leaving there around 5, driving through downtown, and then north to Gainesville.  Pray for me.

Jim K5SP

On 11/15/2022 7:48 PM, Steve W3HF wrote:

Jim -

The fact that you have the same result from multiple programs pretty much says that it's not MixW (or Digipan or PSK Express) that is causing the problem. (That was also shown when you set up MixW to output to your speakers, and you heard warbling.)

So what else is there? 

- The USB cable would seem to be okay (since you can receive, and CAT will trigger Tx) but you could swap it for a different one. 

- Could you try another USB port on your computer?

- Do you have another computer you could (temporarily) load with any one of the digimode programs and try connecting with that? 

Beyond that, is it possible that the (new) radio has a bad interface? Or that its Tx audio codec is bad?

You say you've asked for help on the other message boards about the TS890S and MixW. I almost hesitate to make this suggestion on the 070 reflector, but maybe you could get a little more traction with the message boards if you also had the problem with another much more popular program like WSJT-X. I know that you have no interest in actually using that mode. But if it has the same problem (and I would think it would), maybe you'd get more help on those other boards. If they help you figure it out, then you should be able to translate that into a fix for MixW. And if they can't, then maybe they can help point you to a way to prove it's the (new) radio.

Just some thoughts...

Steve

W3HF

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim K5SP <jinnis@...>
To: main@070Club.groups.io
Sent: Tue, Nov 15, 2022 7:55 pm
Subject: Re: [070Club] Rig Help

Okay, I have tried:

MixW3.2.105

Digipan

PskExpress

Fldigi (can't get it work at all, probably operator error).

All with same results. 

So frustrated. Quitting for the night, and have to be at VA hospital in Dallas tomorrow. 

Keep the ideas coming.

Jim K5SP 

Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android

On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 2:36 PM, Buz Johnson

<wa5amm.sc.usa@...> wrote:

Jim,

I hate your having this problem with such a fine rig as the TS-890S.  I'm not sure I can be of much help, but I might suggest that you try another program like Fldigi or HRD to eliminate if it is a rig problem or software issue with Mixw.  Right now you don't know if it is your rig or Mixw you're having an issue with so eliminating one or the other might help you focus on the problem.  I believe you did have the TS-590SG before and you were having problems with it and thought you were using HRD.  I may have run into something similar on my TS590SG and would like to talk to you about it if I may.  Send me your phone number or call 864 907-2596.

73,

Buz, WA5AMM

"May the best you've ever been, be the worst you'll ever see"

On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 1:37 PM Jim K5SP <jinnis@...> wrote:

Is there anyone out there that is using a TS-890 with MixW software that might have a solution for my problem.
I have set up the rig according to the manual, and have set the Data input to be from the rear USB port.  I have set up the CAT with the Mixw to use the virtual ports provided by the driver.
I am able to receive and decode signals from the rig in MixW.  Cat  is working, it properly reads the frequency and displays in the waterfall.  CAT will key rig.  And that is were the problem starts,
the rig keys, but there is no output.

K6MG, KK6M and I have spent hours on this issue with no change.  There is nothing in the TS-890 or MixW groups that help.  Until this is resolved, I am unable to operate PSK, missed Triple Play because of this.

--
Jim,  K5SP #483
Executive Director/Member Services Director

--
de, WA5AMM, Buz

--
Jim,  K5SP #483
Executive Director/Member Services Director

--
Jim,  K5SP #483
Executive Director/Member Services Director

On Wed, Nov 16, 2022 at 1:40 PM, Rick - N7WE

<n7we1980@...> wrote:

From the TS-890S USB Audio Setting Manual, Section 4.2 pg 7

The PTT switch of the microphone connected to the TS-890S and [SEND] keys on the TS-890S control panel are the method for transmitting audio input to the microphone connected to the TS-890S. When transmitting by these methods, audio entered as audio signals from USB cannot be transmitted. 

Someone said that the rig will key with PTT, so might this have a bearing on the problem?  The manual goes on to list 3 methods of fixing the issue.

Good luck Jim, hope you get it working soon.

https://www.kenwood.com › amateur › ts_890 › pdf

 

 

Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602

On Nov 16, 2022, at 11:52 AM, N6MG - Milt. via groups.io <n6mg@...> wrote:

To all, that care to journey with us on Jim's, K5SP, problem with his getting his TS-890S to "merge"

with MixW 3.2.105.

Roy, KK6M, Jim, K5SP, and me, N6MG, were on a conference call for close to 2 hours going thru 

every setting, and combo of settings for both MixW and the Kenwood TS-890.

All is working and communicating as it should, 

EXCEPT,

No audio out!

CAT settings are correct. Jim can key the rig; his waterfall is good, and he can decode from his waterfall.

PTT works, all baud rates are set correctly, and the COM Ports are in sync in both CAT & PTT.

We've tried every combination of the RTS & DTR on both the CAT & PTT settings.

All MixW and Jim's computer sound settings say, "USB Audio Codec" as their default setting.

Steve, Eric, & Buz: We've done all of what you're suggesting. Of course, we're using the radio's internal

sound card. Yes, the radio is connected to the computer via a USB A to C cable. 

And as Jim has told us, he's tried 2 different computers with the same results. By using 2 

different computers all we've proven is that it doesn't appear to be a computer setting. 

Agreed; we've tried everything except changing out the USB A to C cable. Very remote chance of that 

being the problem, but we discussed it on our conference call, and Jim will try that as soon as he locates his spare. 

Bottom line: When Jim hits his "TX/RX" macro, his radio goes into Xmit, but no audio coming out.

Personally, I think there's 1 setting, somewhere that isn't set correctly. Hopefully it's just 1.

I joined the K'wood TS-890S Groups.io and asked for assistance. We've asked for assistance in 

the MixW User's group also. A lot of suggestions, but no positive results.

We're also in contact with Yuri, VE3DZ, who is the MixW/Rig Expert person on this side of the globe. He's 

helped many times in the past.

Experienced suggestions are definitely welcome.

Milt.

N6MG

070-650  

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim K5SP <jinnis@...>
To: main@070Club.groups.io
Sent: Wed, Nov 16, 2022 5:30 am
Subject: Re: [070Club] Rig Help

I did forget to mention that I have a laptop that I used upon which I installed MixW and digipan.  The result was the same. So, based upon all this, it seems to be narrowed down to the USB cable, or we are missing some little setting on the software cat and/or the rig itself. 

I, like you have searched you tube for a video, and all I could find was FT8.  One would assume that it would be the same for PSK. 

I will be stuck in Dallas at the VA for most of the day.  I dread this trip as the VA is on the southeast side of Dallas and I have to drive home through all the rush hour afternoon traffic.  Will be leaving there around 5, driving through downtown, and then north to Gainesville.  Pray for me.

Jim K5SP

On 11/15/2022 7:48 PM, Steve W3HF wrote:

Jim -

The fact that you have the same result from multiple programs pretty much says that it's not MixW (or Digipan or PSK Express) that is causing the problem. (That was also shown when you set up MixW to output to your speakers, and you heard warbling.)

So what else is there? 

- The USB cable would seem to be okay (since you can receive, and CAT will trigger Tx) but you could swap it for a different one. 

- Could you try another USB port on your computer?

- Do you have another computer you could (temporarily) load with any one of the digimode programs and try connecting with that? 

Beyond that, is it possible that the (new) radio has a bad interface? Or that its Tx audio codec is bad?

You say you've asked for help on the other message boards about the TS890S and MixW. I almost hesitate to make this suggestion on the 070 reflector, but maybe you could get a little more traction with the message boards if you also had the problem with another much more popular program like WSJT-X. I know that you have no interest in actually using that mode. But if it has the same problem (and I would think it would), maybe you'd get more help on those other boards. If they help you figure it out, then you should be able to translate that into a fix for MixW. And if they can't, then maybe they can help point you to a way to prove it's the (new) radio.

Just some thoughts...

Steve

W3HF

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim K5SP <jinnis@...>
To: main@070Club.groups.io
Sent: Tue, Nov 15, 2022 7:55 pm
Subject: Re: [070Club] Rig Help

Okay, I have tried:

MixW3.2.105

Digipan

PskExpress

Fldigi (can't get it work at all, probably operator error).

All with same results. 

So frustrated. Quitting for the night, and have to be at VA hospital in Dallas tomorrow. 

Keep the ideas coming.

Jim K5SP 

Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android

On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 2:36 PM, Buz Johnson

<wa5amm.sc.usa@...> wrote:

Jim,

I hate your having this problem with such a fine rig as the TS-890S.  I'm not sure I can be of much help, but I might suggest that you try another program like Fldigi or HRD to eliminate if it is a rig problem or software issue with Mixw.  Right now you don't know if it is your rig or Mixw you're having an issue with so eliminating one or the other might help you focus on the problem.  I believe you did have the TS-590SG before and you were having problems with it and thought you were using HRD.  I may have run into something similar on my TS590SG and would like to talk to you about it if I may.  Send me your phone number or call 864 907-2596.

73,

Buz, WA5AMM

"May the best you've ever been, be the worst you'll ever see"

On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 1:37 PM Jim K5SP <jinnis@...> wrote:

Is there anyone out there that is using a TS-890 with MixW software that might have a solution for my problem.
I have set up the rig according to the manual, and have set the Data input to be from the rear USB port.  I have set up the CAT with the Mixw to use the virtual ports provided by the driver.
I am able to receive and decode signals from the rig in MixW.  Cat  is working, it properly reads the frequency and displays in the waterfall.  CAT will key rig.  And that is were the problem starts,
the rig keys, but there is no output.

K6MG, KK6M and I have spent hours on this issue with no change.  There is nothing in the TS-890 or MixW groups that help.  Until this is resolved, I am unable to operate PSK, missed Triple Play because of this.

--
Jim,  K5SP #483
Executive Director/Member Services Director

--
de, WA5AMM, Buz

--
Jim,  K5SP #483
Executive Director/Member Services Director

--
Jim,  K5SP #483
Executive Director/Member Services Director