FT8 Mode


Charles Odom <ki4vmk@...>
 

Has anyone noticed how the FT8 people have moved in on the PSK31 portion of 17 meters, are we supposed to move down ?


Jerry N9AVY
 

Run roughshod over them !  They'll get tired of fighting QRM or start a war ! 
 
 Seriously, someone needs to come up with a decent band plan to keep this kind of stuff from happening.  I doubt that ARRL will do much since their interest lays in promoting other things.
 
Jerry  N9AVY



From: "Charles Odom ki4vmk@... [070]" <070@...>
To: PODXS <070@...>
Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 1:20 PM
Subject: [070] FT8 Mode

 
Has anyone noticed how the FT8 people have moved in on the PSK31 portion of 17 meters, are we supposed to move down ?



Charles Odom <ki4vmk@...>
 

Well it's about that bad on 20 meters also FT8 has already come down into the other digital areas, Feld Hell, Olivia and such. Oh well we'll see, I'm not going to loose sleep over it, lol
On Aug 4, 2017, at 3:03 PM, "Jerry n9avy@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:

 

Run roughshod over them !  They'll get tired of fighting QRM or start a war ! 
 
 Seriously, someone needs to come up with a decent band plan to keep this kind of stuff from happening.  I doubt that ARRL will do much since their interest lays in promoting other things.
 
Jerry  N9AVY



From: "Charles Odom ki4vmk@... [070]" <070@...>
To: PODXS <070@...>
Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 1:20 PM
Subject: [070] FT8 Mode

 
Has anyone noticed how the FT8 people have moved in on the PSK31 portion of 17 meters, are we supposed to move down ?



Jerry N9AVY
 



 
 
 
 
This was a comment made on a FB page a bit ago in reply to FT8 comments about how some guy dropped his Eqsl account....
 
I find it interesting that so many complain about a service like eHam. FT8 is a crazy space encouraging rage. I don't think eHam  [Eqsl ?] is the source of the problem. I think it is the people who have entered the hobby without care for the old-school ethics and standards."

From: "Charles Odom ki4vmk@... [070]" <070@...>
To: PODXS <070@...>
Cc: PODXS <070@...>
Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [070] FT8 Mode

 
Well it's about that bad on 20 meters also FT8 has already come down into the other digital areas, Feld Hell, Olivia and such. Oh well we'll see, I'm not going to loose sleep over it, lol
On Aug 4, 2017, at 3:03 PM, "Jerry n9avy@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:

 
Run roughshod over them !  They'll get tired of fighting QRM or start a war ! 
 
 Seriously, someone needs to come up with a decent band plan to keep this kind of stuff from happening.  I doubt that ARRL will do much since their interest lays in promoting other things.
 
Jerry  N9AVY



From: "Charles Odom ki4vmk@... [070]" <070@...>
To: PODXS <070@...>
Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 1:20 PM
Subject: [070] FT8 Mode

 
Has anyone noticed how the FT8 people have moved in on the PSK31 portion of 17 meters, are we supposed to move down ?





Charles Odom <ki4vmk@...>
 

Yup
On Aug 4, 2017, at 3:53 PM, "Jerry n9avy@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:
 



 
 
 
 
This was a comment made on a FB page a bit ago in reply to FT8 comments about how some guy dropped his Eqsl account....
 
I find it interesting that so many complain about a service like eHam. FT8 is a crazy space encouraging rage. I don't think eHam  [Eqsl ?] is the source of the problem. I think it is the people who have entered the hobby without care for the old-school ethics and standards."

From: "Charles Odom ki4vmk@... [070]" <070@...>
To: PODXS <070@...>
Cc: PODXS <070@...>
Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [070] FT8 Mode

 
Well it's about that bad on 20 meters also FT8 has already come down into the other digital areas, Feld Hell, Olivia and such. Oh well we'll see, I'm not going to loose sleep over it, lol
On Aug 4, 2017, at 3:03 PM, "Jerry n9avy@... [070]" < 070@...> wrote:
 
Run roughshod over them !  They'll get tired of fighting QRM or start a war !  :) devil" class="yiv8854452801yahoo-ignore-inline-image" alt="*>:) devil" src="https://s.yimg.com/ok/u/assets/img/emoticons/emo15.gif" data="60dd7085-05d9-123f-2b29-41773005aeee">
 
 Seriously, someone needs to come up with a decent band plan to keep this kind of stuff from happening.  I doubt that ARRL will do much since their interest lays in promoting other things.
 
Jerry  N9AVY



From: "Charles Odom ki4vmk@... [070]" <070@...>
To: PODXS <070@...>
Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 1:20 PM
Subject: [070] FT8 Mode

 
Has anyone noticed how the FT8 people have moved in on the PSK31 portion of 17 meters, are we supposed to move down ?





Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@...>
 

I downloaded the software today just to play with.  The mode is brand new and the author has been receptive to suggestions in the past.  How about the PODXS officers send him an email and let him know his anchor frequency is already spoken for?

Mike
WM4B

On Aug 4, 2017 4:03 PM, "Jerry n9avy@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:
 

Run roughshod over them !  They'll get tired of fighting QRM or start a war ! 
 
 Seriously, someone needs to come up with a decent band plan to keep this kind of stuff from happening.  I doubt that ARRL will do much since their interest lays in promoting other things.
 
Jerry  N9AVY



From: "Charles Odom ki4vmk@... [070]" <070@...>
To: PODXS <070@...>
Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 1:20 PM
Subject: [070] FT8 Mode

 
Has anyone noticed how the FT8 people have moved in on the PSK31 portion of 17 meters, are we supposed to move down ?



Brian (N2MLP)
 

Psk  is 14.070

FT8 is 14.074

 

 

Don’t see a problem

 

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         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

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From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 6:24 PM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] FT8 Mode

 

 

I downloaded the software today just to play with.  The mode is brand new and the author has been receptive to suggestions in the past.  How about the PODXS officers send him an email and let him know his anchor frequency is already spoken for?

 

Mike

WM4B

On Aug 4, 2017 4:03 PM, "Jerry n9avy@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:

 

Run roughshod over them !  They'll get tired of fighting QRM or start a war ! 

 

 Seriously, someone needs to come up with a decent band plan to keep this kind of stuff from happening.  I doubt that ARRL will do much since their interest lays in promoting other things.

 

Jerry  N9AVY

 


From: "Charles Odom ki4vmk@... [070]" <070@...>
To: PODXS <070@...>
Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 1:20 PM
Subject: [070] FT8 Mode

 

 

Has anyone noticed how the FT8 people have moved in on the PSK31 portion of 17 meters, are we supposed to move down ?

 


Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@...>
 

The topic was 17 meters.

Mike WM4B

On Aug 4, 2017 6:57 PM, "'Brian' n2mlp@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:
 

Psk  is 14.070

FT8 is 14.074

 

 

Don’t see a problem

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

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From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 6:24 PM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] FT8 Mode

 

 

I downloaded the software today just to play with.  The mode is brand new and the author has been receptive to suggestions in the past.  How about the PODXS officers send him an email and let him know his anchor frequency is already spoken for?

 

Mike

WM4B

On Aug 4, 2017 4:03 PM, "Jerry n9avy@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:

 

Run roughshod over them !  They'll get tired of fighting QRM or start a war ! 

 

 Seriously, someone needs to come up with a decent band plan to keep this kind of stuff from happening.  I doubt that ARRL will do much since their interest lays in promoting other things.

 

Jerry  N9AVY

 


From: "Charles Odom ki4vmk@... [070]" <070@...>
To: PODXS <070@...>
Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 1:20 PM
Subject: [070] FT8 Mode

 

 

Has anyone noticed how the FT8 people have moved in on the PSK31 portion of 17 meters, are we supposed to move down ?

 


Brian (N2MLP)
 

You are correct

Somehow I read 20M ??

 

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         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

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From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 7:03 PM
To: 070@...
Subject: RE: [070] FT8 Mode

 

 

The topic was 17 meters.

 

Mike WM4B

On Aug 4, 2017 6:57 PM, "'Brian' n2mlp@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:

 

Psk  is 14.070

FT8 is 14.074

 

 

Don’t see a problem

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

========================

 

 

From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 6:24 PM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] FT8 Mode

 

 

I downloaded the software today just to play with.  The mode is brand new and the author has been receptive to suggestions in the past.  How about the PODXS officers send him an email and let him know his anchor frequency is already spoken for?

 

Mike

WM4B

On Aug 4, 2017 4:03 PM, "Jerry n9avy@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:

 

Run roughshod over them !  They'll get tired of fighting QRM or start a war ! 

 

 Seriously, someone needs to come up with a decent band plan to keep this kind of stuff from happening.  I doubt that ARRL will do much since their interest lays in promoting other things.

 

Jerry  N9AVY

 


From: "Charles Odom ki4vmk@... [070]" <070@...>
To: PODXS <070@...>
Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 1:20 PM
Subject: [070] FT8 Mode

 

 

Has anyone noticed how the FT8 people have moved in on the PSK31 portion of 17 meters, are we supposed to move down ?

 


David M (AJ4TF)
 

Suggestions to cause intentional interference to another station and claims to "own" a frequency are unsettling even though I'm sure they are in jest.

No one owns a frequency. Yes there are voluntary band plans but there will always be changes in transmission modes that voluntary band plans will not keep up with. It is a hobby, relax and enjoy it.


Jerry N9AVY
 

Yes, it was in jest.   Last time some LID told me he owned the frequency, I told that I had the deed to frequency he sold me !
 
 
Jerry  N9AVY



From: "aj4tf@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 6:07 PM
Subject: [070] Re: FT8 Mode

 
Suggestions to cause intentional interference to another station and claims to "own" a frequency are unsettling even though I'm sure they are in jest.

No one owns a frequency. Yes there are voluntary band plans but there will always be changes in transmission modes that voluntary band plans will not keep up with. It is a hobby, relax and enjoy it.



k9wis@...
 

Like generating income to pay thier execs and lawyers?? Unfortunately I couldnt affort a $180 life membership 50 years ago when I was a teen.
Brian K9WIS
(Former ARRL member that got priced out with the last increase)

---- "Jerry n9avy@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:

Run roughshod over them !  They'll get tired of fighting QRM or start a war !    Seriously, someone needs to come up with a decent band plan to keep this kind of stuff from happening.  I doubt that ARRL will do much since their interest lays in promoting other things. Jerry  N9AVY

From: "Charles Odom ki4vmk@... [070]" <070@...>
To: PODXS <070@...>
Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 1:20 PM
Subject: [070] FT8 Mode

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