Explain Something for Me
Bill Garwood
All of the recent posts about PSK31 operators sending stuff like and CQ CQ de . Why do they not know what they are sending out over the air?
I started years ago with PSK31 using MixW software and have stuck with it as it does the job for me. I always see on my monitor what I am sending whether using macros or when I'm typing.
I guess other software does not have this feature by default or similar?
If I understand why it happens, I may be able to occasionally assist them with getting up to speed. As has been mentioned, some of these folks cannot be helped as they already know it all, but most are just trying a new mode or new software.
Then there are others who send their call as in brackets. My software does not recognize that as a call sign so I have to cut and paste it or type it in to make a QSO with that station. Why do some stations send their call in brackets?
Happy Radio! 73,
Bill #1688
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Have seen it all since 2006... aaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhh !
From: "Bill Garwood n4gbk@... [070]" <070@...> To: "070@..." <070@...> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 9:45 AM Subject: [070] Explain Something for Me All of the recent posts about PSK31 operators sending stuff like . Why do they not know what they are sending out over the air?
I started years ago with PSK31 using MixW software and have stuck with it as it does the job for me. I always see on my monitor what I am sending whether using macros or when I'm typing.
I guess other software does not have this feature by default or similar?
If I understand why it happens, I may be able to occasionally assist them with getting up to speed. As has been mentioned, some of these folks cannot be helped as they already know it all, but most are just trying a new mode or new software.
Then there are others who send their call as in brackets. My software does not recognize that as a call sign so I have to cut and paste it or type it in to make a QSO with that station. Why do some stations send their call in brackets?
Happy Radio! 73,
Bill #1688
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Harry Wilkins
Most do it I think to make their callsign stand out from the other text. That's why I do it anyway, but I do leave a space between the brackets and the callsign. All of the software have tried will then recognize that. HRD doesn't have a problem parsing non-alphabetic or numeric characters, so I don't have a problem with those who don't leave spaces. Possibly theirs can parse it as well and it hasn't occurred to them that some out there cannot.
Harry, K9HW – #1959
From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 9:12 AM To: 070@... Subject: [070] Explain Something for Me
[Harry] <<< DELETED >>>
Then there are others who send their call as in brackets. My software does not recognize that as a call sign so I have to cut and paste it or type it in to make a QSO with that station. Why do some stations send their call in brackets?
Happy Radio! 73,
Bill #1688
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mwbesemer@...
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ljl2002@att.net
This is the reason that I never sign as /QRP because I heard that it screws up some logging programs. Besides the other Ham is usually surprised to see the power levels when they get the card.. I found it a good practice to watch what I am sending out to catch anything that may not be right so that I can correct it on the next. (I'm not the greatest typist on the planet.) Should have taken typing in HS when I had the chance. The teacher was great and the class was all girls. What an idiot! Joe KA1PPV #1482
On Monday, July 17, 2017 11:30 AM, "mwbesemer@... [070]" <070@...> wrote: Just my humble opinion, but I find that it makes it HARDER to distinguish the call when it's bracketed like that. No telling what it does for guys using screen readers. Mike WM4B On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 11:22 AM, 'K9HW' k9hw@... [070] wrote: Most do it I think to make their callsign stand out from the other text. That's why I do it anyway, but I do leave a space between the brackets and the callsign. All of the software have tried will then recognize that. HRD doesn't have a problem parsing non-alphabetic or numeric characters, so I don't have a problem with those who don't leave spaces. Possibly theirs can parse it as well and it hasn't occurred to them that some out there cannot. Harry, K9HW – #1959 From: 070@... [mailto:070@...] Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 9:12 AM To: 070@... Subject: [070] Explain Something for Me [Harry] <<< DELETED >>> Then there are others who send their call as in brackets. My software does not recognize that as a call sign so I have to cut and paste it or type it in to make a QSO with that station. Why do some stations send their call in brackets? Happy Radio! 73, Bill #1688
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mwbesemer@...
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I can certainly understand the frustrations when weird text from broken or incomplete macros gets sent, and when the other OM’s callsign is embedded in brackets, dashes or weird ASCII special characters. We have this sophisticated software on our end – doesn’t the other guy?
When operating PSK31, I try (but don’t always succeed) to keep these points in mind:
I was fortunate enough at age 13 to be put through two touch-typing courses at the Columbia Business College. My mother saw it as inexpensive day-care. All the other students were young ladies about 18 – 22 years old. I often had difficulties paying attention to the lessons. ;>) The keyboard skills learned there helped me immensely through my IT career.
Keep smiling and we’ll see you on the bands!!
From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 9:17 AM To: 070@... Subject: Re: [070] Explain Something for Me
This is the reason that I never sign as /QRP because I heard that it screws up some logging programs. Besides the other Ham is usually surprised to see the power levels when they get the card.. I found it a good practice to watch what I am sending out to catch anything that may not be right so that I can correct it on the next. (I'm not the greatest typist on the planet.) Should have taken typing in HS when I had the chance. The teacher was great and the class was all girls. What an idiot!
Joe KA1PPV #1482
On Monday, July 17, 2017 11:30 AM, "mwbesemer@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:
Just my humble opinion, but I find that it makes it HARDER to distinguish the call when it's bracketed like that.
No telling what it does for guys using screen readers.
Mike WM4B
On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 11:22 AM, 'K9HW' k9hw@... [070] wrote:
Most do it I think to make their callsign stand out from the other text. That's why I do it anyway, but I do leave a space between the brackets and the callsign. All of the software have tried will then recognize that. HRD doesn't have a problem parsing non-alphabetic or numeric characters, so I don't have a problem with those who don't leave spaces. Possibly theirs can parse it as well and it hasn't occurred to them that some out there cannot.
Harry, K9HW – #1959
From: 070@... [mailto:070@...] Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 9:12 AM To: 070@... Subject: [070] Explain Something for Me
[Harry] <<< DELETED >>>
Then there are others who send their call as in brackets. My software does not recognize that as a call sign so I have to cut and paste it or type it in to make a QSO with that station. Why do some stations send their call in brackets?
Happy Radio! 73,
Bill #1688
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Joe: Is there any difference between QRP in caps and lowest case ???? Do the caps QRP mean the station is running more power ? ![]() Jerry N9AVY
From: "'ljl2002@...' joe_molon@... [070]" <070@...> To: "070@..." <070@...> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 11:17 AM Subject: Re: [070] Explain Something for Me This is the reason that I never sign as /QRP because I heard that it screws up some logging programs. Besides the other Ham is usually surprised to see the power levels when they get the card.. I found it a good practice to watch what I am sending out to catch anything that may not be right so that I can correct it on the next. (I'm not the greatest typist on the planet.) Should have taken typing in HS when I had the chance. The teacher was great and the class was all girls. What an idiot! Joe KA1PPV #1482 On Monday, July 17, 2017 11:30 AM, "mwbesemer@... [070]" <070@...> wrote: Just my humble opinion, but I find that it makes it HARDER to distinguish the call when it's bracketed like that. No telling what it does for guys using screen readers. Mike WM4B On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 11:22 AM, 'K9HW' k9hw@... [070] wrote: Most do it I think to make their callsign stand out from the other text. That's why I do it anyway, but I do leave a space between the brackets and the callsign. All of the software have tried will then recognize that. HRD doesn't have a problem parsing non-alphabetic or numeric characters, so I don't have a problem with those who don't leave spaces. Possibly theirs can parse it as well and it hasn't occurred to them that some out there cannot. Harry, K9HW – #1959 From: 070@... [mailto:070@...] Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 9:12 AM To: 070@... Subject: [070] Explain Something for Me [Harry] <<< DELETED >>> Then there are others who send their call as in brackets. My software does not recognize that as a call sign so I have to cut and paste it or type it in to make a QSO with that station. Why do some stations send their call in brackets? Happy Radio! 73, Bill #1688
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ljl2002@att.net
You were the smart one Mike!!! Joe KA1PPV #1482
On Monday, July 17, 2017 2:16 PM, "Jerry n9avy@... [070]" <070@...> wrote: Joe: Is there any difference between QRP in caps and lowest case ???? Do the caps QRP mean the station is running more power ? ![]() Jerry N9AVY From: "'ljl2002@...' joe_molon@... [070]" <070@...> To: "070@..." <070@...> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 11:17 AM Subject: Re: [070] Explain Something for Me This is the reason that I never sign as /QRP because I heard that it screws up some logging programs. Besides the other Ham is usually surprised to see the power levels when they get the card.. I found it a good practice to watch what I am sending out to catch anything that may not be right so that I can correct it on the next. (I'm not the greatest typist on the planet.) Should have taken typing in HS when I had the chance. The teacher was great and the class was all girls. What an idiot! Joe KA1PPV #1482 On Monday, July 17, 2017 11:30 AM, "mwbesemer@... [070]" <070@...> wrote: Just my humble opinion, but I find that it makes it HARDER to distinguish the call when it's bracketed like that. No telling what it does for guys using screen readers. Mike WM4B On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 11:22 AM, 'K9HW' k9hw@... [070] wrote: Most do it I think to make their callsign stand out from the other text. That's why I do it anyway, but I do leave a space between the brackets and the callsign. All of the software have tried will then recognize that. HRD doesn't have a problem parsing non-alphabetic or numeric characters, so I don't have a problem with those who don't leave spaces. Possibly theirs can parse it as well and it hasn't occurred to them that some out there cannot. Harry, K9HW – #1959 From: 070@... [mailto:070@...] Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 9:12 AM To: 070@... Subject: [070] Explain Something for Me [Harry] <<< DELETED >>> Then there are others who send their call as in brackets. My software does not recognize that as a call sign so I have to cut and paste it or type it in to make a QSO with that station. Why do some stations send their call in brackets? Happy Radio! 73, Bill #1688
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boat.anchor@...
Bill
QRZ QRZ about 3 times usually fixes this or just request longcall. Then he has to type it. Barry ---In 070@..., <n4gbk@...> wrote : SNIP Then there are others who send their call as <N4GBK> in brackets. My software does not recognize that as a call sign so I have to cut and paste it or type it in to make a QSO with that station. Why do some stations send their call in brackets? Happy Radio! 73, Bill #1688 SNIP
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Joe
Was her name Mavis Bacon?She taught in a lot of schools. Barry ---In 070@..., <joe_molon@...> wrote : This is the reason that I never sign as /QRP because I heard that it screws up some logging programs. Besides the other Ham is usually surprised to see the power levels when they get the card.. I found it a good practice to watch what I am sending out to catch anything that may not be right so that I can correct it on the next. (I'm not the greatest typist on the planet.) Should have taken typing in HS when I had the chance. The teacher was great and the class was all girls. What an idiot! Joe KA1PPV #1482
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Sounds like Mavis might have been a ham ! ![]()
From: "boat.anchor@... [070]" <070@...> To: 070@... Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 6:00 PM Subject: Re: [070] Explain Something for Me Joe Was her name Mavis Bacon?She taught in a lot of schools. Barry ---In 070@..., wrote : This is the reason that I never sign as /QRP because I heard that it screws up some logging programs. Besides the other Ham is usually surprised to see the power levels when they get the card.. I found it a good practice to watch what I am sending out to catch anything that may not be right so that I can correct it on the next. (I'm not the greatest typist on the planet.) Should have taken typing in HS when I had the chance. The teacher was great and the class was all girls. What an idiot! Joe KA1PPV #1482
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ljl2002@att.net
Barry, LMAO!!! I actually have the Mavis CD downstairs but haven't the courage to start. I will though. The teacher in question was named Miss Iffland. She was the typical "old school" teacher. Her hair was grey and always tied back in a bun. She wore wire-rimmed glasses and the most endearing thing to all the students is that she always greeted you with a smile whether you were in her class or not. Everybody loved her. Remember that I said I was an idiot for not taking her class??? Mavis will square me away though. Joe KA1PPV #1482
On Monday, July 17, 2017 7:05 PM, "Jerry n9avy@... [070]" <070@...> wrote: Sounds like Mavis might have been a ham ! ![]() From: "boat.anchor@... [070]" <070@...> To: 070@... Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 6:00 PM Subject: Re: [070] Explain Something for Me Joe Was her name Mavis Bacon?She taught in a lot of schools. Barry ---In 070@..., wrote : This is the reason that I never sign as /QRP because I heard that it screws up some logging programs. Besides the other Ham is usually surprised to see the power levels when they get the card.. I found it a good practice to watch what I am sending out to catch anything that may not be right so that I can correct it on the next. (I'm not the greatest typist on the planet.) Should have taken typing in HS when I had the chance. The teacher was great and the class was all girls. What an idiot! Joe KA1PPV #1482
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