Date
1 - 10 of 10
Valentine Sprint question revisited
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Tom <tsingle0@...>
Does anyone know the answer to my earlier question posted (#19402)
about the Valentine Sprint rules? Was it too easy? Jay? Charlie? Someone? Tks, Tom K8TOM
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Chris <n9jca@...>
Basically any one you make contact with within the alloted time counts
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towards the contest results N9JCA Chris PODXS # 797
--- In 070@yahoogroups.com, "Tom" <tsingle0@...> wrote:
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Tom <tsingle0@...>
--- In 070@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <n9jca@...> wrote:
OK, so that means that I could start making contacts at any time for the purpose of giving contact points to Sprint participants. For Conus that would be 8PM EST and 5PM PST. But the contacts will not count on my totals until it is 8PM my local time. Is that right? Tom K8TOM
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Milton Garb <w6qe@...>
Hi Tom,
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I'm thinking that it may not be as simple a question as presented. But, I'm just another opinion...here goes: If you work folks before your official rolling start in the contest...and then you enter the contest, during your allotted time, can work them again for your log? NO...They're going to tell you that you're a dupe. Even though you weren't in the contest, they were, and you can only count 1 time in their log per band. Every QSO with a station that you make prior to YOUR official start is a QSO with that station that you cannot make again on that band, once your time zone starts. You'll be shooting yourself in the foot by starting early. See what I mean? That's what catches my eye right off the bat. Hope this helps. I saw you on 20m a little while ago...very nice and clean signal... Milton W6QE
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From: Tom To: 070@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 11:48 AM Subject: [070] Re: Valentine Sprint question revisited --- In 070@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <n9jca@...> wrote: > > Basically any one you make contact with within the alloted time counts > towards the contest results > > N9JCA Chris PODXS # 797 > OK, so that means that I could start making contacts at any time for the purpose of giving contact points to Sprint participants. For Conus that would be 8PM EST and 5PM PST. But the contacts will not count on my totals until it is 8PM my local time. Is that right? Tom K8TOM ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.10.19/1942 - Release Date: 2/9/2009 5:40 PM
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Chris <n9jca@...>
TOM
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GO HERE http://www.podxs070.com/ and read the rules on the main page Once again as Milt described ONLY the contacts that you make between 8PM - 2AM YOUR time will count towards your total points N9JCA Chris PODXS # 797
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Steve W3HF
Milton -
If someone were to say that **I** was a dupe under those circumstances, I'd say "but you're not a dupe for me!" right back. After all, it's not that he **CAN'T** make the QSO, or that you **CAN'T** work him, it's just that the "second" QSO won't count for him. Anyone who understood the rules, though, would make a second QSO, **especially** those on this reflector who are reading this. Note that because there's no cross-checking of logs, it doesn't matter which of the contacts with you he submits. It's a common problem for the "rolling start" type of sprints--probably one of the few drawbacks--but it's easily addressed. The only issue is that he won't ever respond to your CQ, because you're already in his log. You'll have to call him and ask for an "in-window" QSO. Steve W3HF If you work folks before your official rolling start in thecontest...and then you enter the contest, during your allotted time, can work them again for your log?weren't in the contest, they were, and you can only count 1 time in their log per band. Every QSO with a station that you make prior to YOUR official startis a QSO with that station that you cannot make again on that band, once your time zone starts. You'll be shooting yourself in the foot by starting early. See what I mean?counts > towards the contest results------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 2/9/2009 5:40 PM
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Milton Garb <w6qe@...>
Steve,
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Thanks for your explanation and sharing your experiences. I see your point and agree. Rolling start contests do present some interesting challenges for the West Coast. Milton W6QE
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From: Steve Melachrinos To: 070@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 1:07 PM Subject: [070] Re: Valentine Sprint question revisited Milton - If someone were to say that **I** was a dupe under those circumstances, I'd say "but you're not a dupe for me!" right back. After all, it's not that he **CAN'T** make the QSO, or that you **CAN'T** work him, it's just that the "second" QSO won't count for him. Anyone who understood the rules, though, would make a second QSO, **especially** those on this reflector who are reading this. Note that because there's no cross-checking of logs, it doesn't matter which of the contacts with you he submits. It's a common problem for the "rolling start" type of sprints--probably one of the few drawbacks--but it's easily addressed. The only issue is that he won't ever respond to your CQ, because you're already in his log. You'll have to call him and ask for an "in-window" QSO. Steve W3HF > If you work folks before your official rolling start in the contest...and then you enter the contest, > during your allotted time, can work them again for your log? > NO...They're going to tell you that you're a dupe. Even though you weren't in the contest, they were, and you can only count 1 time in their log per band. > Every QSO with a station that you make prior to YOUR official start is a QSO with that station that you cannot make again on that band, once your time zone starts. You'll be shooting yourself in the foot by starting early. > See what I mean? > That's what catches my eye right off the bat. > Hope this helps. > I saw you on 20m a little while ago...very nice and clean signal... > Milton > W6QE > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tom > To: 070@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 11:48 AM > Subject: [070] Re: Valentine Sprint question revisited > > > --- In 070@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <n9jca@> wrote: > > > > Basically any one you make contact with within the alloted time counts > > towards the contest results > > > > N9JCA Chris PODXS # 797 > > > OK, so that means that I could start making contacts at any time for > the purpose of giving contact points to Sprint participants. For > Conus that would be 8PM EST and 5PM PST. > > But the contacts will not count on my totals until it is 8PM my local > time. > > Is that right? > > Tom > K8TOM > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.10.19/1942 - Release Date: 2/9/2009 5:40 PM > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.10.19/1942 - Release Date: 2/9/2009 5:40 PM
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Tom <tsingle0@...>
Chris,
Thanks..I read the rules at the club website several times--Love the new web site---but can't see that they address the question directly. Should I or should I not start making contacts with contest participants prior to my local start time even though I don't get contest points for it? The reason that I would do something like that is (for them) to help others get points and (for me) to probably make more 070 contacts for LONP, etc. Milt's understanding may be correct, but since a call would not appear more than once in your submitted contest log, how can there be a dupe? It seems to me that prior contacts should not be discouraged. Why not help out both parties and encourage more activity? But I'm probably missing a consideration here.. And Tnx for the compliment, Milt. I saw your QSO with Harry in HI, and it looks like the reflector mention was indeed keeping him busy. I'm pretty limited right now on 80M and non-existent on 160M, so won't be doing much tonight. But I'm working on it...:-) K8TOM
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spdomingue@...
You can only count the points for contact during your time,
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Many stations will be on early to give you points and also late to give you points However they do not count the points as it is before or after there Friday, 13 February 2009, 2000 - 0200 (YOUR LOCAL TIME). IF I contact you before 2000 or after 0200 MY Local time I do not count the points BUT if it is Between 2000 and 0200 YOUR local time you can count the points. THat helo any? SteveD N6YIH/7
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From: Chris <n9jca@arrl.net> To: 070@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 2:30 pm Subject: [070] Re: Valentine Sprint question revisited Basically any one you make contact with within the alloted time counts towards the contest results N9JCA Chris PODXS # 797 --- In 070@yahoogroups.com, "Tom" <tsingle0@...> wrote:
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angus15 <angus15@...>
HEY THAT WAS RIGHT TO THE POINT LOL
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From: spdomingue@aol.com To: 070@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [070] Re: Valentine Sprint question revisited You can only count the points for contact during your time, Many stations will be on early to give you points and also late to give you points However they do not count the points as it is before or after there Friday, 13 February 2009, 2000 - 0200 (YOUR LOCAL TIME). IF I contact you before 2000 or after 0200 MY Local time I do not count the points BUT if it is Between 2000 and 0200 YOUR local time you can count the points. THat helo any? SteveD N6YIH/7 -----Original Message----- From: Chris <n9jca@arrl.net> To: 070@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 2:30 pm Subject: [070] Re: Valentine Sprint question revisited Basically any one you make contact with within the alloted time counts towards the contest results N9JCA Chris PODXS # 797 --- In 070@yahoogroups.com, "Tom" <tsingle0@...> wrote: > > Does anyone know the answer to my earlier question posted (#19402) > about the Valentine Sprint rules? > > Was it too easy? Jay? Charlie? Someone? > > Tks, > Tom > K8TOM >
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