Migration to Windows 10 - OMG!


B C <k9wis@...>
 

Well finally bit the bullet and updated my shack computer to windows10..OMG what a nightmare..Sure the windows install part went pretty smooth, but getting all the drivers to work with all the ham gear was a real trip..Microsoft is so helpful that they insisted that the drivers that were installed were the 'best Available' driver, despite the fact that they didnt work with any of my usb to serial cables and external sound card. Really had to dig into windows and turn off all that 'helpful' software that checks for 'signatures' in the drivers to make sure they are microsoft approved, and to turn off driver updates so once you do get the old drivers installed windows doesnt do you the favor of overwriting them with new ones that dont work. And the for the final insult I got the programs running but they couldn't hear any FT8 or PSK signals from the radio. After 2 days of searching I found out that once again, windows was doing us a favor to protect our privacy and required you to go into the control panel and grant access to any Apps that want to use the microphone input.....Ahhhhhhhhh!

Well I finally got wsjt-x and FLDigi running on my laptop with windows10...that means windows 11 is just around the corner I am sure. FLDigi has come a long way since I used it a long time ago. You can set it up to operate pretty much like HRD and still have the hundred bucks in your pocket that you didnt spend on HRD...YAY!.

I hope you guys are having a better time with technology than this old ham is..Bring back the tubes!!

Look for this feeble signal on the bands.

Brian K9WIS


Jerry N9AVY
 

Got a WIN 10 machine about 3 weeks ago.  I hate it.  The WIN 10 environment sucks !  Seems it doesn’t like to send attachments and hates my Canon digital camera software.

 

I got hold of a WIN 7 machine which I have as yet to get running due to time and work. Don’t know why they keep messing with different version of WIN…  maybe it’s time to go back to DOS ?   😊   ha-ha !

 

Jerry  n9avy 

 

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From: B C
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 7:51 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: [070Club] Migration to Windows 10 - OMG!

 

Well finally bit the bullet and updated my shack computer to windows10..OMG what a nightmare..Sure the windows install part went pretty smooth, but getting all the drivers to work with all the ham gear was a real trip..Microsoft is so helpful that they insisted that the drivers that were installed were the 'best Available' driver, despite the fact that they didnt work with any of my usb to serial cables and external sound card. Really had to dig into windows and turn off all that 'helpful' software that checks for 'signatures' in the drivers to make sure they are microsoft approved, and to turn off driver updates so once you do get the old drivers installed windows doesnt do you the favor of overwriting them with new ones that dont work. And the for the final insult I got the programs running but they couldn't hear any FT8 or PSK signals from the radio. After 2 days of searching I found out that once again, windows was doing us a favor to protect our privacy and required you to go into the control panel and grant access to any Apps that want to use the microphone input.....Ahhhhhhhhh!

 

Well I finally got wsjt-x and FLDigi running on my laptop with windows10...that means windows 11 is just around the corner I am sure. FLDigi has come a long way since I used it a long time ago. You can set it up to operate pretty much like HRD and still have the hundred bucks in your pocket that you didnt spend on HRD...YAY!.

 

I hope you guys are having a better time with technology than this old ham is..Bring back the tubes!!

 

Look for this feeble signal on the bands.

 

Brian K9WIS

 

 

 


Ray Clements
 

For those of you who have spent the past 9 years using Windows 7, upgrading directly to Windows 10 can be a challenge. Those of us who followed the normal upgrade path were able to spread the transition over several generations of Windows.

I currently have three desktop computers and two laptops running Windows 10. I still keep one old desktop on Windows 7 because the motherboard has a hard drive interface on the motherboard for which there are no Windows 8 and higher drivers available, so it won't run anything other than Windows 7. I keep it to run software that has trouble running under Windows 10. Some older ham programs have difficulty running under Windows 10, but most will.

For hams, the biggest issue with Windows 10 seems to be USB to serial port adapters. The adapters that use the older Prolific chips do not work under Windows 10. The best adapters use either FTDI chips or Silicon Lab chips. I understand that Prolific has new chips that work under Windows 10, but I have not tried them, so I recommend using FTDI chips. You can get a decent adapter cable for about $15. 

I never liked the new interface that Microsoft released to replace the start menu of Windows 7. Thus, on all my Windows 10 computers, I have installed a program called Start 10 by Stardock. It costs $4.99 per computer and restores the original Windows 7 interface. It is well worth the money. If you are one who considers 5 bucks to be expensive, then you can use a free program called Classic Start Menu. 

If you need any help with the transition to Windows 10, I may be able to help. 

Ray N9RWC
r.clements@...



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Received: 10:04 PM CDT, 09/25/2018
From: "Jerry N9AVY" <n9avy@...>
To: "070Club@groups.io" <070Club@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [070Club] Migration to Windows 10 - OMG!


Got a WIN 10 machine about 3 weeks ago.  I hate it.  The WIN 10 environment sucks !  Seems it doesn’t like to send attachments and hates my Canon digital camera software.

 

I got hold of a WIN 7 machine which I have as yet to get running due to time and work. Don’t know why they keep messing with different version of WIN…  maybe it’s time to go back to DOS ?   😊   ha-ha !

 

Jerry  n9avy 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: B C
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 7:51 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: [070Club] Migration to Windows 10 - OMG!

 

Well finally bit the bullet and updated my shack computer to windows10..OMG what a nightmare..Sure the windows install part went pretty smooth, but getting all the drivers to work with all the ham gear was a real trip..Microsoft is so helpful that they insisted that the drivers that were installed were the 'best Available' driver, despite the fact that they didnt work with any of my usb to serial cables and external sound card. Really had to dig into windows and turn off all that 'helpful' software that checks for 'signatures' in the drivers to make sure they are microsoft approved, and to turn off driver updates so once you do get the old drivers installed windows doesnt do you the favor of overwriting them with new ones that dont work. And the for the final insult I got the programs running but they couldn't hear any FT8 or PSK signals from the radio. After 2 days of searching I found out that once again, windows was doing us a favor to protect our privacy and required you to go into the control panel and grant access to any Apps that want to use the microphone input.....Ahhhhhhhhh!

 

Well I finally got wsjt-x and FLDigi running on my laptop with windows10...that means windows 11 is just around the corner I am sure. FLDigi has come a long way since I used it a long time ago. You can set it up to operate pretty much like HRD and still have the hundred bucks in your pocket that you didnt spend on HRD...YAY!.

 

I hope you guys are having a better time with technology than this old ham is..Bring back the tubes!!

 

Look for this feeble signal on the bands.

 

Brian K9WIS

 

 

 




Phil Royce
 

Just wait Brian it gets better, if your using a WIN10Pro and you only have a 1TeraBit hard drive and you go below 200G of space, the computer goes into convulsions. You will have 0 processor usage, but 100 percent hard drive usage, and nothing will open, or work.  Its Windows 10 dirty memory secret again.  So store everything except windows OS on a different drive.  Keep all your OP programs on the windows drive and all your storage, downloads, etc. on another one.  Also Searchfetch service is not your friend in this OS platform, if you have all that working correctly and the hard drive goes 100 percent constant, turn service off on Searchfetch and see it that causes it, its the WIndows AI suppose to be fixing your windows in the background.  I wish it would just clean my windows so I could see out.

73 ke4pwe


On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 8:51 PM B C <k9wis@...> wrote:
Well finally bit the bullet and updated my shack computer to windows10..OMG what a nightmare..Sure the windows install part went pretty smooth, but getting all the drivers to work with all the ham gear was a real trip..Microsoft is so helpful that they insisted that the drivers that were installed were the 'best Available' driver, despite the fact that they didnt work with any of my usb to serial cables and external sound card. Really had to dig into windows and turn off all that 'helpful' software that checks for 'signatures' in the drivers to make sure they are microsoft approved, and to turn off driver updates so once you do get the old drivers installed windows doesnt do you the favor of overwriting them with new ones that dont work. And the for the final insult I got the programs running but they couldn't hear any FT8 or PSK signals from the radio. After 2 days of searching I found out that once again, windows was doing us a favor to protect our privacy and required you to go into the control panel and grant access to any Apps that want to use the microphone input.....Ahhhhhhhhh!

Well I finally got wsjt-x and FLDigi running on my laptop with windows10...that means windows 11 is just around the corner I am sure. FLDigi has come a long way since I used it a long time ago. You can set it up to operate pretty much like HRD and still have the hundred bucks in your pocket that you didnt spend on HRD...YAY!.

I hope you guys are having a better time with technology than this old ham is..Bring back the tubes!!

Look for this feeble signal on the bands.

Brian K9WIS





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Richard Rohrer
 

I have been using Windows10 for quite a while.  Using an Asus with SSD and have no problems, except that sometimes and update will change my sound card interface and I have to re-setup.  I use and Icom with build in sound card.  I have found a new driver that solves the Prolific problem so all of my old cables using the that chip set now work fine.  

Don't seem to have any processor or disk loading problems.  

73
Dick - KC3EF


Jim K5SP
 

I also have been using W10 since it came out.  I have it on 3 PC's in my household, and one laptop.  I have not had a problem with W10, W8, W7 or any other version of windows. 

It is my belief, that all these complainers are people that have NOT researched the new versions, just installed it, and let it do what it wanted to do.  Then, when shown a new UI, become confused because it is not what they are used to seeing.  Many are people that are adverse to change, and want things to always stay the "way they were", immediately say they hate the new version, go back to the older, less secure version, because they don't want to invest the time to learn the new system.  To me, all the versions have been intuitive, and once you get used to the "new way of doing the same things you used to do", all is well.

Just my .02

73
Jim, K5SP


On 9/27/2018 11:26 AM, Richard Rohrer wrote:
I have been using Windows10 for quite a while.  Using an Asus with SSD and have no problems, except that sometimes and update will change my sound card interface and I have to re-setup.  I use and Icom with build in sound card.  I have found a new driver that solves the Prolific problem so all of my old cables using the that chip set now work fine.  

Don't seem to have any processor or disk loading problems.  

73
Dick - KC3EF


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B C <k9wis@...>
 

Well sometimes you just have versions forced on you because all the support for the old ones go away and no one believes in backwards compatiblity at all...To accuse users of not doing the research and calling them lazy is an insult to many that unhappily worked throught the problems made by some egotistical primadona that thinks he's better than anyone else...Lost all my respect for you Jim...Thought you were better than that...
Brian K9WIS.................former PODXS member..

---- Jim K5SP <jinnis@swbell.net> wrote:

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I also have been using W10 since it came out.  I have it on 3 PC's in my
household, and one laptop.  I have not had a problem with W10, W8, W7 or
any other version of windows.

It is my belief, that all these complainers are people that have NOT
researched the new versions, just installed it, and let it do what it
wanted to do.  Then, when shown a new UI, become confused because it is
not what they are used to seeing.  Many are people that are adverse to
change, and want things to always stay the "way they were", immediately
say they hate the new version, go back to the older, less secure
version, because they don't want to invest the time to learn the new
system.  To me, all the versions have been intuitive, and once you get
used to the "new way of doing the same things you used to do", all is well.

Just my .02

73
Jim, K5SP

On 9/27/2018 11:26 AM, Richard Rohrer wrote:
I have been using Windows10 for quite a while.  Using an Asus with SSD
and have no problems, except that sometimes and update will change my
sound card interface and I have to re-setup.  I use and Icom with
build in sound card.  I have found a new driver that solves the
Prolific problem so all of my old cables using the that chip set now
work fine.

Don't seem to have any processor or disk loading problems.

73
Dick - KC3EF