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Re: Contest scorer

Bob Motyl KK6KMU
 

Thank you for the new uploader.  Worked great. I greatly appreciate all the time you volunteers have put into making this a great club.
Looking forward to great 2021.  I missed too many 2020 contest.

Bob KK6KMU


Welcome 2815

Jim K5SP
 

Please join me in welcoming new member:

2815 Frank WA2BQU

Welcome to the club Frank!

Jim K5SP
Executive Director
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Jim,  K5SP #483
Executive Director/Member Services Director


Re: Pskfest

Jim K5SP
 

Sorry Ken, saw you briefly then you disappeared.

I can only recall seeing two stations with splatter and railroad tracks, and neither one were members.

If you ever see me with a splattering or dirty signal, please tell me!

Jim K5SP


On 1/2/2021 2:14 PM, Ken Campbell wrote:
Been a lot of fun so far, as time and family allow. Only problem I’ve been having is that my RX here in SW Missouri is getting wiped out by a few stations that are splattering all over the waterfall because their transmitter audio drive is WAY too hot. If I turn my RX gain down enough to control their trace, almost everything else disappears.

Remember folks, only drive your TX audio enough to print nice, clean railroad tracks!
--
All the best,
Ken N6PCD/0
070 #801
LONP #187

--
Jim,  K5SP #483
Executive Director/Member Services Director


Re: Contest scorer

Brian D. Karcher
 

Thank you, I just found it. 


On Jan 3, 2021, at 10:02 AM, Jim K5SP <jinnis@...> wrote:


Look in the Files area of groups.io

Jim K5SP 

On Jan 3, 2021 9:56 AM, "Brian D. Karcher" <Kg5gjt@...> wrote:

I just uploaded my log from the PSKFest. The upload was seamless and very easy to do. I log with HRD, all I had to do was export and ADIF, fill out the 070 club form and upload it all. Well done and thank you to whoever did the work on this.
Having never participated in this event I have no reference to compare my points with. Are the past event scores kept somewhere or can anyone tell me last years results?

73,
Brian
KG5GJT
> On Jan 2, 2021, at 10:04 PM, David, K9DWR <david@...> wrote:
>
> 
>>> On Jan 2, 2021, at 20:36, Josef 'Jeff' Sipek <jeffpc@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> There are too many places people hide it in fields
>>> strewn across the record that are non-standard because of how various
>>> loggers work.  I wouldn’t get too hung up on a “missing” RST for a single
>>> contact.  I can make the code more stringent, but you getting one extra
>>> QSO is a small price to pay for the avalanche of other ones that wouldn’t
>>> be counted as a result.
>>
>> I'm totally onboard with being lenient with what is accepted, however your
>> "no good way" comment makes me wonder... how is the official score
>> determined?  I hope it is automatic and not manual.  If it is automatic,
>> couldn't the same logic be used in the uploader?
>>
>> Regardless, thanks for working on this.  I thought I'd point it out in case
>> it was an actual bug.
>
> What you are seeing is automated. The same logic used for scoring is used by the uploader.  All it does is call the same program used for the scoring and displays the individual score at upload time for faster display instead of having to wait for it.  Scoring is not manual; what the code reports is what gets scored. Whether the specifics are deficient or not, everyone gets the same scoring.  The “spirit of the event” is to promote contacts, not get hung up on a missing RST.  The _Important_ elements of the exchange (i.e., the elements that influence multiples for scores) are DXCC and State/Province.
>
> —
> David, K9DWR
> #1604 LONP #255
> david@...
>
>
>
>
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--
Jim,  K5SP #483
Executive Director/Member Services Director


Re: Contest scorer

Jim K5SP
 

Look in the Files area of groups.io

Jim K5SP 

On Jan 3, 2021 9:56 AM, "Brian D. Karcher" <Kg5gjt@...> wrote:

I just uploaded my log from the PSKFest. The upload was seamless and very easy to do. I log with HRD, all I had to do was export and ADIF, fill out the 070 club form and upload it all. Well done and thank you to whoever did the work on this.
Having never participated in this event I have no reference to compare my points with. Are the past event scores kept somewhere or can anyone tell me last years results?

73,
Brian
KG5GJT
> On Jan 2, 2021, at 10:04 PM, David, K9DWR <david@...> wrote:
>
> 
>>> On Jan 2, 2021, at 20:36, Josef 'Jeff' Sipek <jeffpc@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> There are too many places people hide it in fields
>>> strewn across the record that are non-standard because of how various
>>> loggers work.  I wouldn’t get too hung up on a “missing” RST for a single
>>> contact.  I can make the code more stringent, but you getting one extra
>>> QSO is a small price to pay for the avalanche of other ones that wouldn’t
>>> be counted as a result.
>>
>> I'm totally onboard with being lenient with what is accepted, however your
>> "no good way" comment makes me wonder... how is the official score
>> determined?  I hope it is automatic and not manual.  If it is automatic,
>> couldn't the same logic be used in the uploader?
>>
>> Regardless, thanks for working on this.  I thought I'd point it out in case
>> it was an actual bug.
>
> What you are seeing is automated. The same logic used for scoring is used by the uploader.  All it does is call the same program used for the scoring and displays the individual score at upload time for faster display instead of having to wait for it.  Scoring is not manual; what the code reports is what gets scored. Whether the specifics are deficient or not, everyone gets the same scoring.  The “spirit of the event” is to promote contacts, not get hung up on a missing RST.  The _Important_ elements of the exchange (i.e., the elements that influence multiples for scores) are DXCC and State/Province.
>
> —
> David, K9DWR
> #1604 LONP #255
> david@...
>
>
>
>
>
>








--
Jim,  K5SP #483
Executive Director/Member Services Director


Re: Contest scorer

Brian D. Karcher
 

I just uploaded my log from the PSKFest. The upload was seamless and very easy to do. I log with HRD, all I had to do was export and ADIF, fill out the 070 club form and upload it all. Well done and thank you to whoever did the work on this.
Having never participated in this event I have no reference to compare my points with. Are the past event scores kept somewhere or can anyone tell me last years results?

73,
Brian
KG5GJT

On Jan 2, 2021, at 10:04 PM, David, K9DWR <david@graniteweb.com> wrote:


On Jan 2, 2021, at 20:36, Josef 'Jeff' Sipek <jeffpc@josefsipek.net> wrote:

There are too many places people hide it in fields
strewn across the record that are non-standard because of how various
loggers work. I wouldn’t get too hung up on a “missing” RST for a single
contact. I can make the code more stringent, but you getting one extra
QSO is a small price to pay for the avalanche of other ones that wouldn’t
be counted as a result.
I'm totally onboard with being lenient with what is accepted, however your
"no good way" comment makes me wonder... how is the official score
determined? I hope it is automatic and not manual. If it is automatic,
couldn't the same logic be used in the uploader?

Regardless, thanks for working on this. I thought I'd point it out in case
it was an actual bug.
What you are seeing is automated. The same logic used for scoring is used by the uploader. All it does is call the same program used for the scoring and displays the individual score at upload time for faster display instead of having to wait for it. Scoring is not manual; what the code reports is what gets scored. Whether the specifics are deficient or not, everyone gets the same scoring. The “spirit of the event” is to promote contacts, not get hung up on a missing RST. The _Important_ elements of the exchange (i.e., the elements that influence multiples for scores) are DXCC and State/Province.


David, K9DWR
#1604 LONP #255
david@graniteweb.com






Re: Contest scorer

David, K9DWR
 

On Jan 2, 2021, at 20:36, Josef 'Jeff' Sipek <jeffpc@josefsipek.net> wrote:

There are too many places people hide it in fields
strewn across the record that are non-standard because of how various
loggers work. I wouldn’t get too hung up on a “missing” RST for a single
contact. I can make the code more stringent, but you getting one extra
QSO is a small price to pay for the avalanche of other ones that wouldn’t
be counted as a result.
I'm totally onboard with being lenient with what is accepted, however your
"no good way" comment makes me wonder... how is the official score
determined? I hope it is automatic and not manual. If it is automatic,
couldn't the same logic be used in the uploader?

Regardless, thanks for working on this. I thought I'd point it out in case
it was an actual bug.
What you are seeing is automated. The same logic used for scoring is used by the uploader. All it does is call the same program used for the scoring and displays the individual score at upload time for faster display instead of having to wait for it. Scoring is not manual; what the code reports is what gets scored. Whether the specifics are deficient or not, everyone gets the same scoring. The “spirit of the event” is to promote contacts, not get hung up on a missing RST. The _Important_ elements of the exchange (i.e., the elements that influence multiples for scores) are DXCC and State/Province.


David, K9DWR
#1604 LONP #255
david@graniteweb.com


Re: Antenna Farm

 

jerry, That's based on what experience?
Milt
N6MG


-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry N9AVY <n9avy@...>
To: main@070Club.groups.io <main@070Club.groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Jan 2, 2021 5:47 pm
Subject: Re: [070Club] Antenna Farm

I value my privacy  and moving to AZ would be like living in a commune.  Rather deal with snow & ice.  

Jerry

On Saturday, January 2, 2021, 07:00:43 PM CST, W7RTL <rtlatimer60@...> wrote:


Think twice before giving up on Arizona.
We have an active HAM community and you never need to shovel sunshine!
73,
W7RTL
Rich

On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 9:18 AM Jerry N9AVY <n9avy@...> wrote:
Ventured outside to take a lookiesee at antenna farm - sad .   The tribander & WARC dipoles have a decidedly unhealthy droop from last night's ice storm.   The 80/40m sloper has its coil  full of ice and the 80m portion over the roof is encased in ice & snow.  Used to have about 6 inches clearance above roof but 8-10 inches of snowfall this week messed that up. 

No way am I going up on the roof to fix it. This hobby is not worth risking my life; same goes for tower.  After fixing the "droop" in sloper a couple weeks ago, it's back to having coil hanging about 5-6 feet off the lawn which is good for chopping off heads while mowing lawn. 

Just got in from cleaning off ice all over van - yuck !   I'm starting to not like Winter.  Granddaughter wants me to move to Phoenix and live with her - bah on that idea !  Actually, I think house is in Gilberts.  AZ is not my cup of tea.

Spring is just around the corner, right ?   What about global warming ???   It should be warmer.


<rant off>

Jerry  n9avy


Re: Contest scorer

Josef 'Jeff' Sipek
 

On Sat, Jan 02, 2021 at 20:05:14 -0600, David, K9DWR wrote:

On Jan 2, 2021, at 19:43, Josef 'Jeff' Sipek <jeffpc@josefsipek.net> wrote:

Very nice!

I managed to upload my ADIF file but for one of the entries I don't have a
received RST (I didn't get one but forgot to prune the QSO from my ADIF file
prior to upload). I'm pretty sure that's an invalid QSO, but the uploader
seems happy with it - the score it calculated seems to indicate that it
considered it a valid QSO (1 point) and a valid multiplier (my only contact
today with Belgium). Just FYI.
There’s really no good way to programmatically determine if a QSO is
missing RST info.
Uh oh.

There are too many places people hide it in fields
strewn across the record that are non-standard because of how various
loggers work. I wouldn’t get too hung up on a “missing” RST for a single
contact. I can make the code more stringent, but you getting one extra
QSO is a small price to pay for the avalanche of other ones that wouldn’t
be counted as a result.
I'm totally onboard with being lenient with what is accepted, however your
"no good way" comment makes me wonder... how is the official score
determined? I hope it is automatic and not manual. If it is automatic,
couldn't the same logic be used in the uploader?

Regardless, thanks for working on this. I thought I'd point it out in case
it was an actual bug.

Jeff.


Re: Contest scorer

Steve VA3FLF/KM4FLF
 

I just uploaded as well. Very fast results and did a great job parsing out the HRD extraneous stuff. Hats off to ya, eh!

Steve
VA3FLF
2301


Re: Contest scorer

David, K9DWR
 

On Jan 2, 2021, at 19:43, Josef 'Jeff' Sipek <jeffpc@josefsipek.net> wrote:

Very nice!

I managed to upload my ADIF file but for one of the entries I don't have a
received RST (I didn't get one but forgot to prune the QSO from my ADIF file
prior to upload). I'm pretty sure that's an invalid QSO, but the uploader
seems happy with it - the score it calculated seems to indicate that it
considered it a valid QSO (1 point) and a valid multiplier (my only contact
today with Belgium). Just FYI.
There’s really no good way to programmatically determine if a QSO is missing RST info. There are too many places people hide it in fields strewn across the record that are non-standard because of how various loggers work. I wouldn’t get too hung up on a “missing” RST for a single contact. I can make the code more stringent, but you getting one extra QSO is a small price to pay for the avalanche of other ones that wouldn’t be counted as a result.



David, K9DWR
#1604 LONP #255
david@graniteweb.com


Re: Contest scorer

Mike N6STA
 

Thank you David!
--
73 - Mike N6STA  070 #1516


Re: Antenna Farm

Jerry N9AVY
 

I value my privacy  and moving to AZ would be like living in a commune.  Rather deal with snow & ice.  

Jerry

On Saturday, January 2, 2021, 07:00:43 PM CST, W7RTL <rtlatimer60@...> wrote:


Think twice before giving up on Arizona.
We have an active HAM community and you never need to shovel sunshine!
73,
W7RTL
Rich

On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 9:18 AM Jerry N9AVY <n9avy@...> wrote:
Ventured outside to take a lookiesee at antenna farm - sad .   The tribander & WARC dipoles have a decidedly unhealthy droop from last night's ice storm.   The 80/40m sloper has its coil  full of ice and the 80m portion over the roof is encased in ice & snow.  Used to have about 6 inches clearance above roof but 8-10 inches of snowfall this week messed that up. 

No way am I going up on the roof to fix it. This hobby is not worth risking my life; same goes for tower.  After fixing the "droop" in sloper a couple weeks ago, it's back to having coil hanging about 5-6 feet off the lawn which is good for chopping off heads while mowing lawn. 

Just got in from cleaning off ice all over van - yuck !   I'm starting to not like Winter.  Granddaughter wants me to move to Phoenix and live with her - bah on that idea !  Actually, I think house is in Gilberts.  AZ is not my cup of tea.

Spring is just around the corner, right ?   What about global warming ???   It should be warmer.


<rant off>

Jerry  n9avy


Re: Contest scorer

Josef 'Jeff' Sipek
 

On Sat, Jan 02, 2021 at 19:07:45 -0600, David, K9DWR wrote:
* JEFF WALSH <jeffwalsh1644@att.net> [2021-01-03 00:41]:
I just uploaded my PSKFEST log and instantly got my score back.
Very impressive !!!
Many THANKS to volunteer/volunteers who made this possible !!!! 
Glad you like it, Jeff. We are slowly piecing things together to have it be
more interactive again. I'm hoping that will allow people to see issues and
re-upload if they need to instead of having to wait for 10 days to start to get
results. I'll eventually get to the point where there's an aggregate page
similar to what we used to have, but this is definitely a "one step at a time"
kind of thing. It took a year to get to the point where I had re-written
scorer logic for all the contests (2020 was me writing them on the fly during
each contest). Now that I have code for all of them, I'm able to integrate it
into the upload process.

Slow and steady, something something...
Very nice!

I managed to upload my ADIF file but for one of the entries I don't have a
received RST (I didn't get one but forgot to prune the QSO from my ADIF file
prior to upload). I'm pretty sure that's an invalid QSO, but the uploader
seems happy with it - the score it calculated seems to indicate that it
considered it a valid QSO (1 point) and a valid multiplier (my only contact
today with Belgium). Just FYI.

A different Jeff.


Re: Contest scorer

David, K9DWR
 

* JEFF WALSH <jeffwalsh1644@att.net> [2021-01-03 00:41]:
I just uploaded my PSKFEST log and instantly got my score back.
Very impressive !!!
Many THANKS to volunteer/volunteers who made this possible !!!! 
Glad you like it, Jeff. We are slowly piecing things together to have it be
more interactive again. I'm hoping that will allow people to see issues and
re-upload if they need to instead of having to wait for 10 days to start to get
results. I'll eventually get to the point where there's an aggregate page
similar to what we used to have, but this is definitely a "one step at a time"
kind of thing. It took a year to get to the point where I had re-written
scorer logic for all the contests (2020 was me writing them on the fly during
each contest). Now that I have code for all of them, I'm able to integrate it
into the upload process.

Slow and steady, something something...

--
David, K9DWR
#1604 LONP #255
david@graniteweb.com


Re: Antenna Farm

W7RTL
 

Think twice before giving up on Arizona.
We have an active HAM community and you never need to shovel sunshine!
73,
W7RTL
Rich

On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 9:18 AM Jerry N9AVY <n9avy@...> wrote:
Ventured outside to take a lookiesee at antenna farm - sad .   The tribander & WARC dipoles have a decidedly unhealthy droop from last night's ice storm.   The 80/40m sloper has its coil  full of ice and the 80m portion over the roof is encased in ice & snow.  Used to have about 6 inches clearance above roof but 8-10 inches of snowfall this week messed that up. 

No way am I going up on the roof to fix it. This hobby is not worth risking my life; same goes for tower.  After fixing the "droop" in sloper a couple weeks ago, it's back to having coil hanging about 5-6 feet off the lawn which is good for chopping off heads while mowing lawn. 

Just got in from cleaning off ice all over van - yuck !   I'm starting to not like Winter.  Granddaughter wants me to move to Phoenix and live with her - bah on that idea !  Actually, I think house is in Gilberts.  AZ is not my cup of tea.

Spring is just around the corner, right ?   What about global warming ???   It should be warmer.


<rant off>

Jerry  n9avy


Contest scorer

JEFF WALSH
 

I just uploaded my PSKFEST log and instantly got my score back.
Very impressive !!!
Many THANKS to volunteer/volunteers who made this possible !!!! 

JEFF WALSH
W3WMU
#1673
BUBBAWOOD
WORLDWIDE HEADQUARTERS
STURGIS, MS.


Re: 15M

Ron Bosch
 

I am on 700 not seeing anyone.  I guess just too much to hope for yet HiHi

On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 3:39 PM Chuck M via groups.io <cam51mail=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
jumped over to 10M, calling cq on 28121.64 at 21:38 utc

On Saturday, January 2, 2021, 04:33:24 PM EST, Ron Bosch <boschfamily@...> wrote:


Nothing heard, now trying 10M

On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 3:24 PM Ron Bosch via groups.io <boschfamily=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Shouting on 15M now to try and work 4th band.

On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 1:59 PM N6MG - Milt. via groups.io <n6mg=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
Ha!...that's who I worked!
milt.

-----Original Message-----
From: stan W9SMR <robinstan@...>
To: main@070Club.groups.io <main@070Club.groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Jan 2, 2021 11:55 am
Subject: Re: [070Club] 15M

SAW N6PE but could not wrk him on 15m

no other signals right now,

73,
Stan
W9SMR

________________________________________
From: main@070Club.groups.io <main@070Club.groups.io> on behalf of Scotty W7PSK <w7psk@...>
Sent: Saturday, January 2, 2021 2:49 PM
To: main@070Club.groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 15M

15 giveth and 15 taketh away ... that was quick.  Going to stay a couple more minutes to see if it opens again

--
Scotty W7PSK
Everett, Washington
070 #138






Re: 15M

Chuck M
 

Nothing seen or heard on 10M with vertical in north central indiana.  Going back to 20M.

KD9DVB



On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 4:39 PM, Chuck M via groups.io
<cam51mail@...> wrote:
jumped over to 10M, calling cq on 28121.64 at 21:38 utc

On Saturday, January 2, 2021, 04:33:24 PM EST, Ron Bosch <boschfamily@...> wrote:


Nothing heard, now trying 10M

On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 3:24 PM Ron Bosch via groups.io <boschfamily=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Shouting on 15M now to try and work 4th band.

On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 1:59 PM N6MG - Milt. via groups.io <n6mg=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
Ha!...that's who I worked!
milt.

-----Original Message-----
From: stan W9SMR <robinstan@...>
To: main@070Club.groups.io <main@070Club.groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Jan 2, 2021 11:55 am
Subject: Re: [070Club] 15M

SAW N6PE but could not wrk him on 15m

no other signals right now,

73,
Stan
W9SMR

________________________________________
From: main@070Club.groups.io <main@070Club.groups.io> on behalf of Scotty W7PSK <w7psk@...>
Sent: Saturday, January 2, 2021 2:49 PM
To: main@070Club.groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 15M

15 giveth and 15 taketh away ... that was quick.  Going to stay a couple more minutes to see if it opens again

--
Scotty W7PSK
Everett, Washington
070 #138






20m

 

Barry...no luck with that experiment. Hi Hi
Camping out on 20m until 2359:59.99 Z
Looking for a lot of the regulars...
Milt.
N6MG

-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Bosch <boschfamily@...>
To: main@070club.groups.io
Sent: Sat, Jan 2, 2021 1:23 pm
Subject: Re: [070Club] 15M

Shouting on 15M now to try and work 4th band.

On Sat, Jan 2, 2021 at 1:59 PM N6MG - Milt. via groups.io <n6mg=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
Ha!...that's who I worked!
milt.

-----Original Message-----
From: stan W9SMR <robinstan@...>
To: main@070Club.groups.io <main@070Club.groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Jan 2, 2021 11:55 am
Subject: Re: [070Club] 15M

SAW N6PE but could not wrk him on 15m

no other signals right now,

73,
Stan
W9SMR

________________________________________
From: main@070Club.groups.io <main@070Club.groups.io> on behalf of Scotty W7PSK <w7psk@...>
Sent: Saturday, January 2, 2021 2:49 PM
To: main@070Club.groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 15M

15 giveth and 15 taketh away ... that was quick.  Going to stay a couple more minutes to see if it opens again

--
Scotty W7PSK
Everett, Washington
070 #138





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