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Re: A/C Replacement Advice Pls! #acreplacement

Matthew King - AK4MK
 

We installed a Goodman 18 SEER heat pump about 2 1/2 years ago. It's been surprisingly quiet.

Good luck, Rick, and don't let them bend you over the rail!

73

Matt King
AK4MK - 070 #1708
PODXS 070 Club Executive Director



On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 11:04 AM, Jerry N9AVY <n9avy@...> wrote:
Get the salesman to put it in contract that it will be "RFI Free".   If he balks at that find someone else.

Jerry n9avy



From: Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Friday, December 8, 2017 10:01 AM
Subject: [070Club] A/C Replacement Advice Pls! #ACReplacement

I need some advice - quick.  Our AC died and here in Florida, even this time of year, it is a "replace quick" item.  I have heard and read horror stories of replacement AC units that create horrible RFI.  If you know anything about this issue or have any experience - good or bad - please let me know soonest possible.  The sales guy will be here this afternoon.  Many tnx.
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Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602




Re: A/C Replacement Advice Pls! #acreplacement

Mike Flowers
 

What brand/model is your existing/broken unit?   If you were happy with the RFI or lack of from them, seems like the place to start.

 

- 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, Past President - NCDXC

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick - N7WE
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2017 8:02 AM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: [070Club] A/C Replacement Advice Pls! #ACReplacement

 

I need some advice - quick.  Our AC died and here in Florida, even this time of year, it is a "replace quick" item.  I have heard and read horror stories of replacement AC units that create horrible RFI.  If you know anything about this issue or have any experience - good or bad - please let me know soonest possible.  The sales guy will be here this afternoon.  Many tnx.
--
Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602


Re: A/C Replacement Advice Pls! #acreplacement

Jerry N9AVY
 

Get the salesman to put it in contract that it will be "RFI Free".   If he balks at that find someone else.

Jerry n9avy



From: Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Friday, December 8, 2017 10:01 AM
Subject: [070Club] A/C Replacement Advice Pls! #ACReplacement

I need some advice - quick.  Our AC died and here in Florida, even this time of year, it is a "replace quick" item.  I have heard and read horror stories of replacement AC units that create horrible RFI.  If you know anything about this issue or have any experience - good or bad - please let me know soonest possible.  The sales guy will be here this afternoon.  Many tnx.
--
Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602



A/C Replacement Advice Pls! #acreplacement

Rick - N7WE
 

I need some advice - quick.  Our AC died and here in Florida, even this time of year, it is a "replace quick" item.  I have heard and read horror stories of replacement AC units that create horrible RFI.  If you know anything about this issue or have any experience - good or bad - please let me know soonest possible.  The sales guy will be here this afternoon.  Many tnx.
--
Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602


Re: Welcome

bowerjohn41 <poppajohnbower@...>
 

Welcome John, have fun. Look forward to meeting you on the waterfall.
John KE4JB

On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 8:21 AM, Jim K5SP <jinnis@...> wrote:
Please join me in welcoming our new PODXS070 member(s). 

2581  John   W8VYM

Jim, K5SP #483
Membership Director

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Jim,  K5SP #483
Member Services Director



Re: Welcome

Paula K7PAX #1739
 

Welcome John! You are in for some real fun and real good friends!

 

Paula K7PAX #1739

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim K5SP
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2017 5:21 AM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: [070Club] Welcome

 

Please join me in welcoming our new PODXS070 member(s). 

2581  John   W8VYM

Jim, K5SP #483
Membership Director


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Jim,  K5SP #483
Member Services Director


Welcome

Jim K5SP
 

Please join me in welcoming our new PODXS070 member(s). 

2581  John   W8VYM

Jim, K5SP #483
Membership Director

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Jim,  K5SP #483
Member Services Director


Re: WTW

Jim K5SP
 

If I could work several hundred A, E, I, O, U, and N, I would be done.
Until this, I did not know how many vowels were needed to spell the continents, and how few N's there are!

Jim K5SP

On 12/7/2017 6:59 PM, Dan Morris wrote:
Thanks Matt — 

Yea, I believe I have somewhere around 1,025 left to go!!!   Whew

Dan Morris  KZ3T

I live to live for Him!



On Dec 7, 2017, at 6:48 PM, Matthew King - KK4CPS <kk4cps@...> wrote:

Yep, Dan, that's the way it works. You can work me 9 times for the "M" in AK4MK, once per "endorsement" on the WTW award.

Here's the WTW FAQ that my clarify other questions you may have: http://podxs070.com/work-the-world-award-series/wtw-faqs

Stick with it - it's a LOT of QSOs, but, man, what a feeling of accomplishment when you wrap it up!

Hope that helps!

73

Matt King
AK4MK - 070 #1708
PODXS 070 Club Executive Director


On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 6:40 PM, Dan Morris <dbmorris315@...> wrote:
Can one work the same call for different letter blocks??
So, if I work a call with an A and finish up that particular country, etc, can I then work that same call with the A for a separate block of letters that have an A in it. i.e.  if I work an A in Brazil can I work that same person for his A for Columbia???

Dan Morris  KZ3T  070-1065
dbmorris315@...

I live to live for Him!











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Jim,  K5SP #483
Member Services Director


Re: Cool service - K4RJD

Richard Drexel <richdrexel@...>
 

HA! No, not dropped off, just super busy and haven't had much time to do much of anything else. I ended up landing a position in downtown Atlanta (about an hour and a half commute from where I live) as a developer.



On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 8:07 PM, Jim Innis <jinnis@...> wrote:
Thought maybe you had dropped off the surface of the planet. Need to stay in touch rich, I taught you better than that!




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Richard Drexel

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Re: KN4 calls - blast from the past !

Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@...>
 

WPX guys like me too, although I think they liked my old call (KG8L) better!

Mike
WM4B


On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 10:54 PM, Jerry N9AVY wrote:

 For those who track prefixes for CQ Awards (WPX)  some of the old WN, KN , etc. call signs are semi rare.



Jerry  n9avy





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From: Fr Richard R via Groups.Io <rickocr2005@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2017 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] KN4 calls - blast from the past !

Late in responding as I am out of town. Hopefully be home late afternoon or evening tomorrow. 

My WN call was issued in 1967.  I do have a couple of the old paper Callbooks from back them at home 

Lot of history in these posts.

Fr Richard 
WB8YXF (which is my 2nd original call other than the WN call sign, Dated from the 60’s when I was in HS)

On Dec 7, 2017, at 21:28, Stephen Melachrinos < melachri@...> wrote:

I know Pete. And I think I have more old callbooks than he does. (I know where he got his, and I had first dibs on that collection.)

His advantage is that he's retired, and has more time for this. I'm still working 40+ hours a week. He's also better at publicity than I am. But if you ask the FCC for help with old callsigns, they'll send you to me, not him.


Steve
W3HF


-----Original Message-----
From: Rick - N7WE < n7we1980@...>
To: 070Club < 070Club@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Dec 7, 2017 9:10 pm
Subject: Re: [070Club] KN4 calls - blast from the past !

Steve-
There is a guy - NL7XM - known as Pete the Greek - who has a marvelous collection of old call books.  If you sent him your old call and home location at the time, he would research it back to your first listing in the Call Books and send you a copy.  It used to be he didn't charge anything, but most people sent some $ to help with copy costs and mailing.   His QRZ page has a picture of him standing in front of a bookcase filled with call books. I think he is still doing it.  There is an eHam review  HERE
--
Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602



Re: KN4 calls - blast from the past !

Dan Morris - KZ3T
 

Steve - I can vouch for that as well.    I went to the FCC and they ended up sending me to you.  I think that was earlier this year or late last year!!

Dan Morris  KZ3T

I live to live for Him!



On Dec 7, 2017, at 9:28 PM, Stephen Melachrinos <melachri@...> wrote:

I know Pete. And I think I have more old callbooks than he does. (I know where he got his, and I had first dibs on that collection.)

His advantage is that he's retired, and has more time for this. I'm still working 40+ hours a week. He's also better at publicity than I am. But if you ask the FCC for help with old callsigns, they'll send you to me, not him.

Steve
W3HF


-----Original Message-----
From: Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@...>
To: 070Club <070Club@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Dec 7, 2017 9:10 pm
Subject: Re: [070Club] KN4 calls - blast from the past !

Steve-
There is a guy - NL7XM - known as Pete the Greek - who has a marvelous collection of old call books.  If you sent him your old call and home location at the time, he would research it back to your first listing in the Call Books and send you a copy.  It used to be he didn't charge anything, but most people sent some $ to help with copy costs and mailing.   His QRZ page has a picture of him standing in front of a bookcase filled with call books. I think he is still doing it.  There is an eHam review HERE
--
Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602


Re: KN4 calls - blast from the past !

Jerry N9AVY
 

For those who track prefixes for CQ Awards (WPX)  some of the old WN, KN , etc. call signs are semi rare.

Jerry  n9avy



From: Fr Richard R via Groups.Io <rickocr2005@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2017 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] KN4 calls - blast from the past !

Late in responding as I am out of town. Hopefully be home late afternoon or evening tomorrow. 

My WN call was issued in 1967.  I do have a couple of the old paper Callbooks from back them at home 

Lot of history in these posts.

Fr Richard 
WB8YXF (which is my 2nd original call other than the WN call sign, Dated from the 60’s when I was in HS)

On Dec 7, 2017, at 21:28, Stephen Melachrinos <melachri@...> wrote:

I know Pete. And I think I have more old callbooks than he does. (I know where he got his, and I had first dibs on that collection.)

His advantage is that he's retired, and has more time for this. I'm still working 40+ hours a week. He's also better at publicity than I am. But if you ask the FCC for help with old callsigns, they'll send you to me, not him.

Steve
W3HF


-----Original Message-----
From: Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@...>
To: 070Club <070Club@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Dec 7, 2017 9:10 pm
Subject: Re: [070Club] KN4 calls - blast from the past !

Steve-
There is a guy - NL7XM - known as Pete the Greek - who has a marvelous collection of old call books.  If you sent him your old call and home location at the time, he would research it back to your first listing in the Call Books and send you a copy.  It used to be he didn't charge anything, but most people sent some $ to help with copy costs and mailing.   His QRZ page has a picture of him standing in front of a bookcase filled with call books. I think he is still doing it.  There is an eHam review HERE
--
Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602



Re: KN4 calls - blast from the past !

Fr Richard R
 

Late in responding as I am out of town. Hopefully be home late afternoon or evening tomorrow. 

My WN call was issued in 1967.  I do have a couple of the old paper Callbooks from back them at home 

Lot of history in these posts.

Fr Richard 
WB8YXF (which is my 2nd original call other than the WN call sign, Dated from the 60’s when I was in HS)

On Dec 7, 2017, at 21:28, Stephen Melachrinos <melachri@...> wrote:

I know Pete. And I think I have more old callbooks than he does. (I know where he got his, and I had first dibs on that collection.)

His advantage is that he's retired, and has more time for this. I'm still working 40+ hours a week. He's also better at publicity than I am. But if you ask the FCC for help with old callsigns, they'll send you to me, not him.

Steve
W3HF


-----Original Message-----
From: Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@...>
To: 070Club <070Club@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Dec 7, 2017 9:10 pm
Subject: Re: [070Club] KN4 calls - blast from the past !

Steve-
There is a guy - NL7XM - known as Pete the Greek - who has a marvelous collection of old call books.  If you sent him your old call and home location at the time, he would research it back to your first listing in the Call Books and send you a copy.  It used to be he didn't charge anything, but most people sent some $ to help with copy costs and mailing.   His QRZ page has a picture of him standing in front of a bookcase filled with call books. I think he is still doing it.  There is an eHam review HERE
--
Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602


Re: KN4 calls - blast from the past !

Stephen Melachrinos
 

I know Pete. And I think I have more old callbooks than he does. (I know where he got his, and I had first dibs on that collection.)

His advantage is that he's retired, and has more time for this. I'm still working 40+ hours a week. He's also better at publicity than I am. But if you ask the FCC for help with old callsigns, they'll send you to me, not him.

Steve
W3HF


-----Original Message-----
From: Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@...>
To: 070Club <070Club@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Dec 7, 2017 9:10 pm
Subject: Re: [070Club] KN4 calls - blast from the past !

Steve-
There is a guy - NL7XM - known as Pete the Greek - who has a marvelous collection of old call books.  If you sent him your old call and home location at the time, he would research it back to your first listing in the Call Books and send you a copy.  It used to be he didn't charge anything, but most people sent some $ to help with copy costs and mailing.   His QRZ page has a picture of him standing in front of a bookcase filled with call books. I think he is still doing it.  There is an eHam review HERE
--
Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602


Re: KN4 calls - blast from the past !

Steve VA3FLF/KM4FLF
 

Thanks Rick. I will see how that works out. Great info.

Steve
2301
KM4FLF
VA3FLF

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 7, 2017, at 21:10, Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@...> wrote:

Steve-
There is a guy - NL7XM - known as Pete the Greek - who has a marvelous collection of old call books.  If you sent him your old call and home location at the time, he would research it back to your first listing in the Call Books and send you a copy.  It used to be he didn't charge anything, but most people sent some $ to help with copy costs and mailing.   His QRZ page has a picture of him standing in front of a bookcase filled with call books. I think he is still doing it.  There is an eHam review HERE
--
Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602


Re: KN4 calls - blast from the past !

Rick - N7WE
 

Steve-
There is a guy - NL7XM - known as Pete the Greek - who has a marvelous collection of old call books.  If you sent him your old call and home location at the time, he would research it back to your first listing in the Call Books and send you a copy.  It used to be he didn't charge anything, but most people sent some $ to help with copy costs and mailing.   His QRZ page has a picture of him standing in front of a bookcase filled with call books. I think he is still doing it.  There is an eHam review HERE
--
Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602


Re: KN4 calls - blast from the past !

Stephen Melachrinos
 

Yup, WR was for repeaters. WR2ABZ was our club's.

The rule on moving changed in 1978. That was just before I moved from NJ to CA, and it enabled me to keep my WA2FKS call until I traded it in for a 1x2 in 2000.

Steve
W3HF


-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry N9AVY <n9avy@...>
To: 070Club <070Club@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Dec 7, 2017 8:33 pm
Subject: Re: [070Club] KN4 calls - blast from the past !

I was a WD9 as a Novice and also as a Tech;  upgraded to general in 1979  and received present call.

I also remember there were some WR calls issued back then and think they were for repeaters. I remember WC calls; they should have been issuued to rest room attendants. 
Also remember there was a bit of confusion with the KA's being issued back in those days; seems that KA2's were assigned to Ryukyu Islands ( Okinawa) U.S. military personnel and the problem arose when they were also issued to some in NY/NJ. As soon as Ryukyu Is. was deleted from DXCC list everything was okay.  Had a ham in this area who presented his Okinawa license at IL  DMV to get strange call sign on his plates.

Don't recall when the rule changed, but there was a time if you moved out of your district , you had to obtain a call that matched the district you were in.  Another FCC screw up.  Used to be when you heard a W1 call he was in VT, ME, NH, CT, RI or MA and you'd know where to point your beam.  Now everyone is every where !



Re: KN4 calls - blast from the past !

Jerry N9AVY
 

Print out those emails , frame tem and hang them on the wall  !!!

Jerry  N9AVY



From: Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2017 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] KN4 calls - blast from the past !

Holy cow... TWO people said I was right today!

I need to buy a lottery ticket!

Mike
WM4B

-----Original Message-----
From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick - N7WE
Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2017 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] KN4 calls - blast from the past !

You are right Mike.  I first licensed as a Novice in January of 1980. My call was KA7GIV.



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*Rick - N7WE*
*070 - #1602*








Re: KN4 calls - blast from the past !

Jerry N9AVY
 

I was a WD9 as a Novice and also as a Tech;  upgraded to general in 1979  and received present call.

I also remember there were some WR calls issued back then and think they were for repeaters. I remember WC calls; they should have been issuued to rest room attendants. 
Also remember there was a bit of confusion with the KA's being issued back in those days; seems that KA2's were assigned to Ryukyu Islands ( Okinawa) U.S. military personnel and the problem arose when they were also issued to some in NY/NJ. As soon as Ryukyu Is. was deleted from DXCC list everything was okay.  Had a ham in this area who presented his Okinawa license at IL  DMV to get strange call sign on his plates.

Don't recall when the rule changed, but there was a time if you moved out of your district , you had to obtain a call that matched the district you were in.  Another FCC screw up.  Used to be when you heard a W1 call he was in VT, ME, NH, CT, RI or MA and you'd know where to point your beam.  Now everyone is every where !



m: Stephen Melachrinos <melachri@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2017 7:07 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] KN4 calls - blast from the past !



Mike -

You are absolutely right. Here's the "full" story.

WN calls were issued originally when the Novice license first came out in 1951. They were issued in-sequence with the W 1x3s that were then being issued to higher grade licensees. Those Novices then would simply drop the N when they upgraded.

When the FCC made it through the W 1x3 sequence for a district (i.e., to W#ZZZ), they started with the K 1x3s. And in that sequence, Novices got a KN prefix (as Jerry pointed out), where the N was dropped upon upgrading.

Near the end of the 1950s, the FCC had run out of unissued 1x3 callsigns in some districts (typically 2nd and 6th) so they started going through the W 1x3s again to reissue vacant calls. I think they might have done some K 1x3s too. Eventually, though, by the early 1960s they moved to a new sequence--the WA 2x3s. And when the first Novice was issued in the WA sequence, he (or she) received a WV prefix. My guess is that either they didn't want to reissue the WN call, or they wanted a distinctive prefix for a call that would become WA. I also guess that the V came from the third letter of Novice. WV calls were issued through much of the WA sequence, ending in the mid-60s or so.

Around that time, the FCC realized they'd have to move to WB prefixes, and they probably also realized there weren't very many consonants in the word Novice, so they went back to WNs, which became WB. The actual transition from the WA series to the WB series was district-dependent, and was solely based on "finishing" the WA series. So the 2nd and 6th districts transitioned earliest, and the 1st and 3rd were the last.

As the FCC got near the end of the WBs for 2nd and 6th districts, they delayed moving to the next letter. So, reminiscent of the 1x3 reissues in the 1950s, they went back through the WAs first, and then the WBs, in certain districts. And at least in the 2nd district, they went through a third time. I became WN2FKS in the spring of 1976, and I immediately found a callbook to discover that WB2FKS was already issued, so I knew I'd become WA2FKS upon upgrading.

Very late in 1976, the FCC decided to do away with all distinctive Novice calls. So every Novice was issued the companion WA or WB call they would have eventually received. And Novices issued after that received "regular" (non-Novice) calls, at least for a few years.

Some time in late 1976 or into 1977, FCC moved into the WD series in certain districts. (The C was skipped because WC calls were limited to RACES stations.) I don't remember if that was before or after the WNs went away, so I don't know if there were any WN Novices who upgraded to a WD.

And as a side note, the WN (or WV) prefixes were only used in the lower 48 states. Outside of the lower 48, where "regular" callsigns all started with K (KP4, KL7, KH6, etc), Novices received W calls (WP4, WL7, WH6), and the W became a K upon upgrading.

Then everything changed in 1978, when the FCC introduced the current Group A/B/C/D system. Novices were only eligible for Group D calls, so they received K 2x3s. But there was no requirement to change the call upon upgrading, so many Novices kept their "Novice" call instead of trading it in for an N 1x3 (for Techs and Generals), a 2x2 (for Advanced), or a 2x1 (for Extras). FCC also implemented a de facto policy of not reissuing calls. That's why they never went to the W or K prefix for 1x3s, which drives new Techs down to Group D now.

And this last fact is what makes these new KN calls so interesting, at least to me, because the FCC is now systematically re-issuing calls in a way that they haven't done for over 40 years. 

Steve
W3HF
(who moonlights as an amateur radio callsign historian) 


-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@...>
To: 070Club <070Club@groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Dec 7, 2017 7:41 pm
Subject: Re: [070Club] KN4 calls - blast from the past !

I’m pretty sure they stopped the ‘N’ long before the novice went away. I seem to recall guys getting KA8 or KB8 calls as novices.

Mike
WM4B

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike W0TMW
Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2017 7:32 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] KN4 calls - blast from the past !

I had a WN0 in the early '70s. They stopped the 'N' when the FCC killed the Novice license.
Mike - W0TMW #2207
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On 12/07/2017 06:05 PM, Jerry N9AVY wrote:
Probably early 60's. ..... Lost records ? You believed those goldbricks who avoid work at all costs at FCC ??? All you need do is pick up an old callbook from the time you had WN call and look in up.

Jerry n9avy
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From: Steve R via Groups.Io <oldjavadrinker=yahoo.com@groups.io>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2017 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] KN4 calls - blast from the past !

When did the WN stop being issued? I got my novice sometime around 1973 or 74. My call was WA4QZP. I could never find my original ticket....buried in 40 years of stuff at Mom and Dad”s place. I was told all those old records were lost at the FCC.

Steve
KM4FLF

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 7, 2017, at 18:53, Jerry N9AVY <n9avy@...> wrote:
Those 2x1 and 1x2 calls go like hot cakes. People are waiting for years and pounce on them. There are web pages devoted to them with lots of data as to when they expire, belong to an SK, etc. If you know the SK's heirs, you can get one of them to sign off on it and the FCC will give you a grant almost immediately. That's how W9CA got reissued as a Club call. Yet, the original W9CA's license plate "W9CA" (IL white letters on red background) still hangs in the Elmhurst (IL) Portillo's.


My old WD9HQQ call has not been reissued and rightfully so ... it was a pain in CW.

Jerry n9avy
________________________________________
From: Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2017 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] KN4 calls - blast from the past !

I started out as WN8AGD, then became WD8AGD when I upgraded to Technician. When I got my Extra in 1980 (I was a H.S. senior), I became KG8L. I kept that call until we built the house here in Georgia; figured I was gonna stay here – I ought to get a ‘4’ call!

I checked the other day, and WD8AGD has not been reissued. KG8L has been reissued twice.

73,

Mike
WM4B
#348

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Matthew King - KK4CPS
Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2017 6:18 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] KN4 calls - blast from the past !

Yup, all the new Technician calls here are KN4 here lately. I didn't realize that they were old novice calls. Neat!

73

Matt King
AK4MK - 070 #1708
PODXS 070 Club Executive Director


On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 6:01 PM, Jerry N9AVY <n9avy@...> wrote:
Those of us who were around in the 50's & 60's might remember the KN prefix as that for Novice licensees. If you don't that's okay.

Have worked/heard about 3 in the past few days. Looks like the FCC ran out of prefixes and has opened up the KN4 block... figuring no one will not if they not told they have recycled calls, hi ! hi!

It's good to see them back on the air. My club call , K9ATI, was originally that of a high school buddy Skip Dewell, KN9ATI, and later K9ATI. Searched for him, but no sign anywhere. Anyhow, I you work a KN call outside of 4-land, you might ask if that was operators original call.

What's next ? Reissueing W, WB, WA, WD ,K and back to N calls ???

Jerry n9avy
















Re: KN4 calls - blast from the past !

Mike Flowers
 

Yep, Agnes got them.   I lived in Carlisle, PA, when Agnes came through.   I remember reading that the FCC office in Gettysburg got flooded.   

Carlisle got hit pretty bad too, with lots of homes in lower areas flooded. 

-- Mike Flowers, K6MKF, NCDXC - "It's about DX!"

On Dec 7, 2017, at 5:15 PM, Stephen Melachrinos <melachri@...> wrote:

Steve -

You are correct. All of the oldest FCC records really were lost when the FCC office in Gettysburg flooded. I believe all the archival records (the non-active licenses) were probably stored in the basement, and were destroyed.

I haven't heard this officially, but my suspicion is that this was Hurricane Agnes in 1972. Check out the rainfall totals from Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Agnes#/media/File:Agnes_1972_rainfall.gif) and figure out where Gettysburg is on the map. I'll give you a hint--look for the dark blue area with the arrow showing 15+ inches of rain.

This destroyed all of the non-current records. And Agnes's date is consistent with FCC statements that "all records of licenses issued prior to 1968" are no longer available. So the only records that exist are any licenses that people still have, and the callbooks.

Steve
W3HF



From: Steve R via Groups.Io <oldjavadrinker=yahoo.com@groups.io>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2017 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] KN4 calls - blast from the past !

... I was told all those old records were lost at the FCC. 

Steve
KM4FLF


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