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Re: Zulu time, GMT & UTC
Josef 'Jeff' Sipek
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 18:07:46 +0000, Jerry N9AVY wrote:
This may clear up some confusion about time ...This is true. Additionally, using "GMT" can get *really* confusing, and that's why I avoid it. There is a subtle difference between the three quantities. During the winter, UTC = GMT = "time in the UK" (well, +-1 second). During the summer, things get more complicated. While UTC just continues on without interruption, the "time in the UK" is BST (British Summer Time) which equals UTC+1 hour. GMT is the confusing one. Some say that it is equal to UTC, some say that it is equal to "time in the UK". (Obviously, it cannot be both.) It's very annoying to deal with, and that's why I strongly suggest everyone avoids saying "GMT" - especially during the summer. In short: * if you mean "zulu" time, write "UTC" * if you mean "time in the UK", just write it out. (E.g., "let's meet at noon London-time" or if it is clear from the context: "noon local time") Tip for scheduling cross-timezone meetings: Make sure you agree on both the time and the timezone. Then, enter the event into your calendar as that - even if it isn't your timezone. Any calendaring program worth using will correctly deal with changes to DST. If you try to be clever, you might end up showing up at the wrong time. For example, say I living in Massachusetts want to schedule a QSO with someone in Frankfurt, Germany. If we agree to 12:30 local time in Frankfurt, I'll enter it into my calendar just like that: 12:30 in Frankfurt. Then, it doesn't matter if it is DST here, summer time in EU, or the weird in-between few weeks where the US is on DST but EU is still on winter time. If I try to be clever, and instead of 12:30 in Frankfurt I put 06:30 in Massachusetts it may work most of the time (namely when US and EU are both using winter/summer time). But during the spring and fall, when the local time difference between MA and Germany is only 5 hours, I'll have to be on the radio at 07:30. Had I entered it as 12:30 Frankfurt, the calendar would have automatically figured it out. But if I enter it as 06:30 MA, the calendar doesn't know it should adjust it by an hour. Oh, and if you want to schedule something for a UTC time and your calendar doesn't let you enter "zulu" time, pick Iceland as the timezone location. Iceland uses UTC year-round as their local time. Huh... this turned out longer than I anticipated. Anyway, calendaring is hard, timezones are hard, and it is a minor miracle civilization hasn't collapsed because of the two :) Jeff.
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Re: Zulu time, GMT & UTC
It's a helpful chart, but it's easier to hand the GMT/UTC/Zulu time at 0000 hours in one's mind and start from there rather than having to refer to a chart. Am sure chart will be helpful to many, but I wouldn't rely on it too heavily. Once you know your time zone is it get easier. For example: CST is GMT/UTC plus 5 hours and CDST is plus 6 hours. Simple, yes ? Jerry n9avy
On Thursday, December 10, 2020, 12:31:23 PM CST, Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@...> wrote:
I find the attached chart helpful. -- Rick - N7WE 070 - #1602
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Re: Zulu time, GMT & UTC
I find the attached chart helpful.
-- Rick - N7WE 070 - #1602
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Re: Zulu time, GMT & UTC
Thank you Jerry Fr Richard WB8YXF
On Thursday, December 10, 2020, 1:07:54 PM EST, Jerry N9AVY <n9avy@...> wrote:
This may clear up some confusion about time ... Jerry n9avy "Zulu" time, more commonly know as "GMT" ( Greenwich Mean Time ) is time at the Zero Meridian. ... Due to various scientific reasons and increased accuracy in measuring the earth's rotation, a new timescale, called Universal Time Coordinated or Coordinated Universal Time (UTC), has been adopted and replaced the term GMT.
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Zulu time, GMT & UTC
This may clear up some confusion about time ... Jerry n9avy "Zulu" time, more commonly know as "GMT" ( Greenwich Mean Time ) is time at the Zero Meridian. ... Due to various scientific reasons and increased accuracy in measuring the earth's rotation, a new timescale, called Universal Time Coordinated or Coordinated Universal Time (UTC), has been adopted and replaced the term GMT.
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DOUBLEHEADER TRIPLE PLAY LOW BAND SPRINT – Tomorrow
stan W9SMR
The Ø7Ø Club DOUBLEHEADER TRIPLE PLAY LOW BAND SPRINT
Starts tomorrow evening.
Saturday, December 12 - 0000 UTC
This is a 3 day event – Friday, Saturday and Sunday evenings in US Sprint Rules – Work a 6 hour block each UTC Date. For Scoring, your 6 hour block will start with the hour you select on the Scoring page and continue for the next 6 hours. You may have only one “Block” or “Block Portion” on a given UTC date.
NOTE that any start time of 1800 or later will end at 2359 that UTC day, so those times are consolidated into a single "1800-2300" start time selection in the Contest Scorer.
Work each station once per band. (Same station, same band, different day is a dupe!)
Open to all licensed radio amateurs. Using 40M, 80M and 160M. For Rules and details, Click Here: Doubleheader Rules
QRP < 5 W
This event will also decide the ultimate 2020 winner of the annual RC3 (Rollo Cup Contest Championship). In a surprise spectacular showing in the Triple Header contest last month, John, KC3FL pulled ahead of Lee, N5SLY by a mere 5.91 points (904.39 / 898.48). Lee has been challenged to get that 160M antenna up and humming.
And 160M QSOs count as 3 points each.
Especially for help in grabbing a few 160M QSOs, it is helpful to post your intentions to QSY on the Reflector. Also, be sure to use PSKReporter and to Spot calls seen. We need all the help we can get.
This is one of our most popular contests. Last year 41 logs were submitted. Top Dawg and 1st in High Power was Lee, N5SLY, with 78 QSOs and 3210 points.
Let’s see if we can beat that turnout.
Stan W9SMR - 070 #1611 PODXS 070 - PR Director
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RC3 Standings
Stephen Melachrinos
As the scorer of the RC3 championship, I have a request to make to a small subset of our members.
First of all, if you are unfamiliar with the Rollo Cup Contest Championship (RC3), it's the year-long challenge to determine who did "best" in the year's ten 070 club contests. Rules and standings for this year are on the web site.
If all of your contest entries used an identical callsign, you are off the hook. You don't have to read the rest of this. Feel free to scroll to the next email. But if you operated in our contests during this year and didn't use the same callsign for all contests, please read the following and determine whether my request applies to you.
There are a number of reasons why you might have operated under different callsigns, including:
1. You received a new callsign during the year, assigned to you by your licensing authority (e.g., FCC).
2. You operated one or more contests using a portable identifier, e.g. W3HF/KH2.
3. You operated one or more contests using a secondary or alternate callsign that is assigned to you personally (like my VQ9HF call), and that callsign is NOT assigned a separate 070 club number.
4. You operated from another station (like a friend's station or a club station) using that friend's or club's callsign.
If any of reasons 1 through 3 apply to you, please check the RC3 leaderboard and make sure I've consolidated your entries. I think I've consolidated entries for each of those reasons, but I might have missed you (especially for a callsign change).
If reason #4 applies, then the club's callsign policy applies, specifically Q5 and Q7. These state that you need to be the control operator of a station that is assigned to you personally for QSOs to accrue to your 070 awards.
If there's another reason that I didn't think of, tell me about it and we'll evaluate the situation.
So the request is that if you see that the leaderboard does NOT show the proper consolidation of your entries, let me know. And furthermore, if you are going to be operating in the Doubleheader this weekend under one of these cases, let me know in advance so I can make sure I score it properly from the start (instead of having to make corrections.
Thanks.
Steve
W3HF
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Re: Congrats - November MONTHLY Endorsements
stan W9SMR
Mike,
You are so right!
Thanks for waking me up. I derived my list by opening and checking each Endorsement upload. I failed to double check the official LONP listing on you and several others.
Back in July I made the following announcement. This is the latest list of official LONP membership, also:
The list below includes those members who have been approved since January 1, 2020:
LONP 070# CALL QSOs
428 #2592 KG5OIB 100
429 #2707 AC8NM 100
430 #2590 KE4PWE 150
431 #2662 KI7OIY 100
432 #1227 KB9UMT 100
433 #2653 W4BZM 100
434 #2267 WJ4HCP 100
I apologize for my sloppiness.
Congrats to all for great dedication to pursue these cherished awards!!
73,
Stan
W9SMR
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From: main@070Club.groups.io <main@070Club.groups.io> on behalf of Mike W4BZM <behrcave@...>
Sent: Sunday, December 6, 2020 10:58 AM
To: main@070club.groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Congrats - November MONTHLY Endorsements
Stan, Jerry:
Thank you for all the work you do for the club on endorsements!
I’m a bit confused, though, at the recent posting which reads:
‘Here is a most recent list of those who have submitted logbooks containing 100 or more QSOs since January 1, 2020.
Note that these are not yet officially approved:
#2618 KD6TR 180
#2722 N3XL 130
#2727 K4VBM 128
#2380 N4KP 122
#2662 KI7OIY 115
#2653 W4BZM 113
#985 WB4JJJ 114
#577 K6WRJ 118
#2017 W7RTL 112
#1441 RX3VF 105
#2692 YV4YY 100
#2741 WA4RXK 100”
Yes, I submitted a logbook since Jan 1 which contains 100 or more entries, BUT, I also received notification that I was officially part of the LONP and was awarded LONP #433. I’m on the LONP list on the web site and I received the “Official Evidence Decal”
in the last mailing of stickers. So I hope that makes me “officially approved”, and that Jerry doesn’t have to waste any time checking my log for LONP credit.
...and again, thank you both for the huge amount of effort you volunteer in support of PODXS 070.
Mike W4BZM
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Re: 17 meter Sunday
Brian D. Karcher
John,
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
I am just seeing this email. I would be willing to give 17m a try if you are still up for it. I am in New Orleans, LA. Let me know and I will jump on the radio. 73, Brian KG5GJT
On Dec 6, 2020, at 12:43 PM, John Hendry KG5OIB <archer@...> wrote:
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Re: 17 meter Sunday
I tried for about an hour. No signals. Maybe next time.
73 John -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ de KG5OIB John Hendry Decatur, Wise County, Texas LOC: EM13eg ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Re: 17 meter Sunday
still trying. Im at 18.098188
JH -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ de KG5OIB John Hendry Decatur, Wise County, Texas LOC: EM13eg ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Re: 17 meter Sunday
Called CQ a couple times on 17 around 1745UTC - NADA! Jerry n9avy
On Sunday, December 6, 2020, 11:41:56 AM CST, John Hendry KG5OIB <archer@...> wrote:
Anyone want to try some 17 meters today? 18.097 should be open for a little while. I'm calling CQ now 17:40 UTC. 73 John ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ de KG5OIB John Hendry Decatur, Wise County, Texas LOC: EM13eg ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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17 meter Sunday
Anyone want to try some 17 meters today? 18.097 should be open for a little while.
I'm calling CQ now 17:40 UTC. 73 John ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ de KG5OIB John Hendry Decatur, Wise County, Texas LOC: EM13eg ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Re: Congrats - November MONTHLY Endorsements
Stan, Jerry:
Thank you for all the work you do for the club on endorsements! I’m a bit confused, though, at the recent posting which reads: ‘Here is a most recent list of those who have submitted logbooks containing 100 or more QSOs since January 1, 2020. Note that these are not yet officially approved: #2618 KD6TR 180 Yes, I submitted a logbook since Jan 1 which contains 100 or more entries, BUT, I also received notification that I was officially part of the LONP and was awarded LONP #433. I’m on the LONP list on the web site and I received the “Official Evidence Decal” in the last mailing of stickers. So I hope that makes me “officially approved”, and that Jerry doesn’t have to waste any time checking my log for LONP credit. ...and again, thank you both for the huge amount of effort you volunteer in support of PODXS 070. Mike W4BZM
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Congrats - November MONTHLY Endorsements
stan W9SMR
As propagation conditions improved recently, we are showing some good gains in member Endorsements. Having several contests has helped also. LONP - To qualify for LONP, 100 QSOs with fellow members are required. As you are aware, we are struggling with issues on the Endorsement web page that limits our timely approval of Endorsements. Be sure to upload your entire log each time. Jerry, N9AVY, has been fighting an uphill battle with our balky Endorsement Checker trying to validate and approve candidates for LONP. Here is a most recent list of those who have submitted logbooks containing 100 or more QSOs since January 1, 2020. Note that these are not yet officially approved: #2618 KD6TR 180 We also have an excited pack of LONP Seekers in hot pursuit of this traditional first rights award. If you see them, give them a call and spot them on PSKReporter and our reflector:
And in close pursuit of the next major Honor Roll level at 500 QSOs are: #138 W7PSK 496 And then there are the Super Achievers with more than 1,000 member QSOs: 1 #0025 W3HF 1650 Has 206 Endorsement Awards 24/7 - The big news in October was a unique strategy formed by Alan, KA5VZG, to enable several among us to either achieve of make great progress in the 24/7 Award. This requires making a QSO for every hour slot on every day of the week, 168 slots total. With the enthusiastic support of Bob, KK6KMU, Bob, K4VBM and several others, 4 members qualified with all 168 slots: Alan, KA5VZG, Bob, K4VBN, Don, KC4OBB and David, KR4U. Getting within easy reach were Stan, W9SMR with 166, and Bob, KK6KMU with 160 slots. Those were bleary eyed but very rewarding middle of the night hours. WTW – Work The World - One of our toughest Endorsements. It requires 2246 specific call sign suffix letters to spell out Country names around the world: #2241 N5SLY 2246 (Got that last letter, “i” during TDW) #0354 W7PAQ 2213 (Needs 13 “i” and 20 “n” to complete) Congratulations to all! Many more Endorsements were earned, far too many to list. I apologize for any errors and if I missed your efforts. But we applaud the continuing efforts of all to reach for the sky!! Keep up the good work! Upcoming 070 Contest: This is a perfect time to plan your participation in the next PODXS 070 Event, the Doubleheader Triple Play Low Band Sprint. This is another great opportunity to work toward LONP and put some 160M Q’s in the log for the Top Band 20 Endorsement.
DOUBLEHEADER – Triple Play Low Band Sprint This is a Three Day Contest, 72 hours
Friday, Saturday and Sunday evenings in US Second Saturday in December Saturday, December 12 - 0000 UTC to the Following Monday in December Monday, December 14 - 2359 UTC
See Rules at: Doubleheader Rules
73,
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Re: Antennas for 160m
Dick: I find as I get older my tolerances for height decrease exponentially. Have always had a certain amount of acrophobia, but the job required access to high places and had to overcome it by just doing it, but that didn't always work. Remember a 5 story building in Chicago Z(a Gap store) which had an atrium with a smoke detector that could only be reached from a lift. Had to rent a lift that would fit through front doors and extend up to ceiling. Looked at it and couldn't do it; so persuaded my partner to go up. He later got even when we both working on a scissors lift and he started rocking it while it was fully extended - I panicked ! Looking back I did a lot of dumb and wondered why I did them. Had to do it to keep job and customers, I guess. Last year my balance went to pot; so I retired. You are very lucky you weren't hurt worse. All you had to deal with was comments from XYL. Climbing to 400 ft. cooling tower is something I would never do. Your employer should have given you flight pay ! Jerry
On Saturday, December 5, 2020, 07:14:17 PM CST, Richard Rohrer <kc3ef@...> wrote:
Hi Jerry, Yes, I was very lucky. Did not even have bruise on my foot. I was expecting a visit to the ER after the xyl told me how stupid I was, hi hi. I never would have gone to the top of a 700 ft plus building and looked over the edge. Don't like heights. My last employer had me go to the Ivanpah Solar Plant to test and certify the equipment we provided. I thought no problem, its usually in the control room, but in this case it was at the 400 ft level on the boiler towers. It looked like there was a single wide trailer placed in the tower that contained the motor controls and our instrumentation. We could elevator up to 300ft and had to walk up the last 100 ft on a stairway that was made of diamond tread. You could see all the way down to the ground. Did not like that at all. This is why I don't have anything antenna wise that I can't work on from the ground. Do you still need grid EL59 in LA? We are planning a trip to TX coast next Feb so we will be going near there. 73 Dick - KC3EF
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Re: Antennas for 160m
Richard Rohrer
Hi Jerry,
Yes, I was very lucky. Did not even have bruise on my foot. I was expecting a visit to the ER after the xyl told me how stupid I was, hi hi. I never would have gone to the top of a 700 ft plus building and looked over the edge. Don't like heights. My last employer had me go to the Ivanpah Solar Plant to test and certify the equipment we provided. I thought no problem, its usually in the control room, but in this case it was at the 400 ft level on the boiler towers. It looked like there was a single wide trailer placed in the tower that contained the motor controls and our instrumentation. We could elevator up to 300ft and had to walk up the last 100 ft on a stairway that was made of diamond tread. You could see all the way down to the ground. Did not like that at all. This is why I don't have anything antenna wise that I can't work on from the ground. Do you still need grid EL59 in LA? We are planning a trip to TX coast next Feb so we will be going near there. 73 Dick - KC3EF
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Re: Antennas for 160m
Ken Campbell <n6pcd1@...>
Milt,
Remember the day in 1993 that I slipped in the rain and fell off the semitrailer when I was driving truck for the feed company? Compound shell fracture including the right eye socket, badly dislocated right elbow, two years out of work recovering and retraining for another job skill. Y’all came and visited me in he hospital. Couldn't remain in truck driving due to eye and arm damage. Good thing is that I was able to retrain as an electronics technician for the remainder of my working life. Romans 8:28 in The Good Book... Anyway, to this day I’m deathly afraid of going up on a ladder more than a few feet. Didn’t put up Christmas lights around the house here in Monett because of it. The gutters around the front of the house are 17 feet AGL in places. -- All the best, Ken N6PCD 070 #801 LONP #187
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Re: Antennas for 160m
And black shoes rule the USN! 73 Jim K5SP (RMC USN-ret)
On 12/4/2020 7:22 PM, Scotty W7PSK
wrote:
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Jim, K5SP #483 Executive Director/Member Services Director
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Milt some history.
PS it was VQ1 where I became a ham, I had an interest in it while in High School but didn't have an Elmer. My SEVAL and Assistant Seval were both Hams and coached me to license. I was near ready and they requested the conditional paperwork ( I was stationed in Guam) when I suddenly got transferred to Moffett Field and finished it there. Got WD6DJB when I passed my Novice in 1977. That was April. In June I was up at the FCC Office in San Francisco doing my 13wpm and General. 2 months later I had my Advanced. Kept that until 2005 when I finally got my extra.
I got into Digital modes because I mostly operated at the Moffett Field Ham Radio Club because i was single. They had a TU6 and a model 15. Got into RTTY. When I was transfered to NAS Brunswick I got a Kantronics Interface for my Commodore VIC 20 and did RTTY that way. Then I got a Kantronics KAM and didt RTTY/AMTOR and Pactor. I also was on the Beta Test Team for Kantronics GTOR (sad it didnt take of it was an awesome mode) in December of 1999 I was reading a QST article on building an interface that would work on my Commodore 64 with this fancy mode called PSK31. And the rest they say is history. sorry if I rambled. -- Scotty W7PSK Everett, Washington 070 #138
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