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K9WIS

Jerry N9AVY
 


Welcome  to the newest member of the  LONP - K9WIS  !     Congrats  !
 
 
Jerry  N9AVY      #454


Re: DM49 Expedition

W7RIV
 

I like the idea. Switched the spreadsheet to UTC.

Bryon, W7RIV

On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 5:48 PM, n7we1980@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
 

Bryon -

Great idea with the spreadsheet.  I added myself to DM28 just in case you get there.  I can add a whole bunch of WY and MT grids if you decide you want to become a portable wanderer! 

One request - It would help me out if you used UTC for times as I always get mixed up converting time zones.

Will look for you Saturday.  Thanks for posting the spreadsheet and for doing the portable.  Some of those grids out west are really really hard to come by!

Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602  



Re: DM49 Expedition

Bill Garwood
 

Thanks Bryon, hope to see you Saturday.


73,  Bill


From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of n7we1980@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 11:48:23 PM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] DM49 Expedition
 
 

Bryon -

Great idea with the spreadsheet.  I added myself to DM28 just in case you get there.  I can add a whole bunch of WY and MT grids if you decide you want to become a portable wanderer! 

One request - It would help me out if you used UTC for times as I always get mixed up converting time zones.

Will look for you Saturday.  Thanks for posting the spreadsheet and for doing the portable.  Some of those grids out west are really really hard to come by!

Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602  


Re: DM49 Expedition

Rick - N7WE
 

Bryon -
Great idea with the spreadsheet.  I added myself to DM28 just in case you get there.  I can add a whole bunch of WY and MT grids if you decide you want to become a portable wanderer! 

One request - It would help me out if you used UTC for times as I always get mixed up converting time zones.

Will look for you Saturday.  Thanks for posting the spreadsheet and for doing the portable.  Some of those grids out west are really really hard to come by!

Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602  


Re: DM49 Expedition

W7RIV
 

On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 11:27 AM, Paul Milward nu4c@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
 

Bryon
I also need DM39 & DM47
I'll be listening for you
20m is probably best
73 de
Paul nu4c



From: "Bryon nnegrom@... [070]" <070@...>
To: "070@..." <070@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 12:34 PM
Subject: Re: [070] DM49 Expedition

 
I've never operated in this location of DM49, my parents just recently moved down there. If I cannot get you this time, I'll see if I can make another visit soon. It is about 2 hours from my house. I will see if I can leave earlier in the day which would give me an approx arrival time of 10a Mountain time. I will have to be off air and on the road by 230p Mountain time.

K9DWR: My portable antenna will allow me to get on 10, 12, 15, 17, 20, 30, and 40m

VA7GEM: There are a lot of people that need DM39 and it is one of the easier ones to get to. I'm working on going APE there in August. The DM47 is also needed, but is a very long distance from my house. I'll need to plan a weekend for that one. That could be a good winter trip for me. DM28 is far, but is still doable. That is in Nevada. I'll work on getting there, but at this time, you are the only one requesting it.

Thanks,
Bryon, W7RIV

On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 8:06 AM, boat.anchor@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
 
Bryon
 
If the opportunity ever comes up I am looking for DM38, DM,39 and DM47
If you should stray far from home I also need DM28
 
Best regards
Barry
 
VB7150/VA7GEM/CF7GEM

BTW your ARRL email is bouncing






Re: DM49 Expedition

W7RIV
 

I'm not in the field until Saturday (7/25). There might have been some confusion from my first email to this one. I plan on being on the mini-expedition this coming Saturday.

Bryon, W7RIV

On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 1:54 PM, Bill Garwood n4gbk@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
 

No copy here.  Checking for over 2 hours.  Nothing in hamspots.  Seeing CA and TX as well as some EU stations on 20.

Bill in NC


From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of n7we1980@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 3:47:31 PM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] DM49 Expedition
 
 

Time is 19:20 UTC.  Anyone copying Bryon W7IRV?  I've been looking on 20m.


Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602



Re: DM49 Expedition

Bill Garwood
 

No copy here.  Checking for over 2 hours.  Nothing in hamspots.  Seeing CA and TX as well as some EU stations on 20.

Bill in NC


From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of n7we1980@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 3:47:31 PM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] DM49 Expedition
 
 

Time is 19:20 UTC.  Anyone copying Bryon W7IRV?  I've been looking on 20m.


Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602


Re: That Windom [

Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@...>
 

Been there – done that.  I also hit my son with a slingshot launch – and he was standing directly behind me.

 

Mike

WM4B

 

From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 2:34 PM
To: 070
Subject: Re: [070] Re: That Windom [

 

 

My skill is to wrap the line around the branch five times.  I have several sets of weights hanging in the oaks in my back yard ;-)

Bill

AG4QX
0398

 

On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 12:16 PM, mwbesemer@... [070] <070@...> wrote:

 

I'm a master at 'hitting' limbs with a slingshot and a couple of sinkers.  I'm much less talented at getting the sinkers to go OVER the branch.

 

It's amazing how fast those sinkers will come back at you - DIRECTLY back at you - after hitting a limb.

 

Mike

WM4B

 

On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 11:09 AM, 'F.R. Ashley' gdadx2@... [070] wrote:

 

I had previously bought a cheap compound bow and taped a 1/2 oz weight to one of the arrows and can hit limbs up to around 75 feet.

 

73 Buddy WB4M  

 


Re: DM49 Expedition

Rick - N7WE
 

Time is 19:20 UTC.  Anyone copying Bryon W7IRV?  I've been looking on 20m.

Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602


Re: That Windom [

Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@...>
 

I live in an area filled with pine and oak.  During the summer, nothing short of a cannonball will get through.

 

I build and air launcher and it works fine in the fall. In the summertime it’s pretty much useless.

 

A drone won’t be any better (or at least not much) but I want one anyway!

 

Mike

WM4B

 

From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 2:19 PM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] Re: That Windom [

 

 

Invest in some PVC and you can pick a reel up at a yard sale. The air launchers really do work. I have short trees, but 100" is realistic.

 

Randy W4RTT

 


From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of mwbesemer@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 1:16 PM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] Re: That Windom [

 

 

I'm a master at 'hitting' limbs with a slingshot and a couple of sinkers.  I'm much less talented at getting the sinkers to go OVER the branch.

 

It's amazing how fast those sinkers will come back at you - DIRECTLY back at you - after hitting a limb.

 

Mike

WM4B

 

On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 11:09 AM, 'F.R. Ashley' gdadx2@... [070] wrote:

 

I had previously bought a cheap compound bow and taped a 1/2 oz weight to one of the arrows and can hit limbs up to around 75 feet.

 

73 Buddy WB4M  


Re: That Windom [

Randy True
 

This isn't mine, but very close.One hint; make the barrel out of 1 1/4. This way you can make projectiles out of short lengths of 1" PVC with end caps. They make a nice fit in the 1 1/4. Put some pennies in the projectile to give it some weight, about an ounce, and put an eye bolt in one end. 40lbs of pressure will put it over a 40' tree. Use some cheap bulk 20lb test line. Some say 2lb is OK, but you WILL break lighter line.



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Randy W4RTT


From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of Jerry n9avy@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 2:01 PM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] Re: That Windom [
 
 

Mike:
 
Thought I save a set of plans for building an air-powered antenna launcher  that used a tennis ball (far less destructive that a sinker),  but as usual can't find it.   Thought about building one and remember a friend bought one at Dayton a few years ago for $59 and said it was better than slingshot, fishing pole and spud gun. It might be somewhere on the net.
 
 
Jerry   n9avy



From: "mwbesemer@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: [070] Re: That Windom [

 
I'm a master at 'hitting' limbs with a slingshot and a couple of sinkers.  I'm much less talented at getting the sinkers to go OVER the branch.

It's amazing how fast those sinkers will come back at you - DIRECTLY back at you - after hitting a limb.

Mike
WM4B


On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 11:09 AM, 'F.R. Ashley' gdadx2@... [070] wrote:

I had previously bought a cheap compound bow and taped a 1/2 oz weight to one of the arrows and can hit limbs up to around 75 feet.

73 Buddy WB4M  



Re: DM49 Expedition

boat.anchor@...
 

Bryon

Everyone else probably stuck to UT grids while I ventured further afield in case you need a camping destination.

Best regards
Barry



---In 070@..., <nnegrom@...> wrote :

I've never operated in this location of DM49, my parents just recently moved down there. If I cannot get you this time, I'll see if I can make another visit soon. It is about 2 hours from my house. I will see if I can leave earlier in the day which would give me an approx arrival time of 10a Mountain time. I will have to be off air and on the road by 230p Mountain time.

K9DWR: My portable antenna will allow me to get on 10, 12, 15, 17, 20, 30, and 40m

VA7GEM: There are a lot of people that need DM39 and it is one of the easier ones to get to. I'm working on going APE there in August. The DM47 is also needed, but is a very long distance from my house. I'll need to plan a weekend for that one. That could be a good winter trip for me. DM28 is far, but is still doable. That is in Nevada. I'll work on getting there, but at this time, you are the only one requesting it.

Thanks,
Bryon, W7RIV

On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 8:06 AM, boat.anchor@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
 

Bryon
 
If the opportunity ever comes up I am looking for DM38, DM,39 and DM47
If you should stray far from home I also need DM28
 
Best regards
Barry
 
VB7150/VA7GEM/CF7GEM

BTW your ARRL email is bouncing



Re: That Windom

Brian (N2MLP)
 

Plus will not get you over large trees

And can’t get it a lot of places

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

========================

 

 

From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 2:35 PM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] Re: That Windom

 

 

Considered buying a used bucket truck which I could write off as business expense, but cheapest I could find was around $10k and just couldn't justify that expense. Besides, heard that hydraulics have to be certified every few year

 

Rental of them starts at about $.300 and up !

 

So,  I'll stick to hiring a climber when needed.

 

Jerry. N9AVY

Sent from my iPhone


On 25 Jul 2017, at 13:20, "randy true w4rttrandy@... [070]" <070@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

NO FAIR, CHEAT CHEAT!

 

Good for you Charles, LOL

 

Randy W4RTT

 


From: 070@yahoogroups.com <070@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of Charles Odom ki4vmk@... [070] <070@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 1:10 PM
To: PODXS
Cc: PODXS
Subject: Re: [070] Re: That Windom [1 Attachment]

 

 

I am very fortunate and thankful to have a friend with a bucket truck. I put a 3 ft extension with a pulley and rope off the top of my 60 ft tower. I can let my 80 meter Windom up and down. Works great, only need a tuner on 15 meter band. Have a regular 60 meter dipole at about 45 feet that works 60 and 30 meters.

Charles

KI4VMK  # 2542

On Jul 25, 2017, at 10:52 AM, "randy true w4rttrandy@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:

 

I have my 80M OCF supported at the feedpoint on a 36' pushup mast. Used a compressed air launcher to get the ends over trees at either end.

Each end is approx 35' or so.

 

Randy W4RTT

 


From: 070@yahoogroups.com <070@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of Bill Garwood n4gbk@... [070] <070@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 9:02 PM
To: Rick Butz; 070@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [070] Re: That Windom [1 Attachment]

 

 

Hi Rick,

 

My Carolina Windom 160 is about 20 feet off the ground at the short end and 35 feet up on the long end.  The OCF feedline is 22 feet long and it just clears the ground.  The manufacturer recommends 40 feet or higher for this model.  I"m sure it would perform better on 160 and 80 if I could get it up higher but I have lots of QSOs on both of those bands.  See picture of feed.  The Carolina Windom is a trademarked antenna sold by The Radio Works.  http://www.radioworks.com/.

 

I see on their site that they are shutting down soon.  The owner is getting older and needs to cut back.  I hope someone, somewhere picks up the Carolina Windom line of antennas as everyone I've ever spoken with has nothing but good things to say.  This design has a vertical and a horizontal radiator that seems to make it work better than some other wire antennas.  I know there are folks who swear by their G5RV, Bazooka and all sorts of trap antennas.  I get it.  An 80 meter version may be what you can use?

 

Mine has been up continuously for over 4 years.  I used some black, UV protected, stretchy rope that I bought with the antenna at a Ham Fest.   The slingshot antenna launcher eventually got it into the trees.  My aim was not good.  "You'll shoot your eye out".  No pulleys etc.  Wrapped a long length of the rope around the tree at each end and I think that might also have some give and take in the wind.  It bounces up and down a lot in high winds.  It does get very windy here and it has stayed up during tropical storms, Nor'easters and thunderstorms.  I am just a few miles from the Amazon Wind Farm so we got wind.  http://www.avangridrenewables.us/amazonwind/

 

I guess they are now using drones to get antennas into trees?  It should be much more accurate than the slingshot.  Anyway, the antenna off center feed balun needs some kind of support.  A fiberglass pole or tree.  Let me know if you have other questions. 

 

73 and Happy Radio!

 

Bill N4GBK

Amazon Wind Farm U.S. East, powered by Avangrid Renewables at Desert Wind Overview. The Amazon Wind Farm U.S. East (formerly known as the Desert Wind project), a ...

 

Manufacturer of high performance wire antennas, current-type baluns, line isolators, and wire antenna parts and accessories. Catalog of products, antenna data and ...

 


From: Rick Butz <n7we1980@...>
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 5:23:50 PM
To: N4GBK
Subject: That Windom

 

Hi Bill -

Read your post on 070 and wanted to ask about your Carolina Windom.  I'm HOA restricted here to a vertical, but do have a couple of Oak trees in the back of the house (that opens up to wetlands and a river - no one behind me).  I definitely need some additional antenna, particularly for the lower bands and near distance.  I'm hoping I can do a stealth install that the roof line will block from view. You mentioned that your install is low.  How high is it? Are you installed using trees?  I'm not sure how I get a Windom up in them.  My tree climbing days are over... hi hi!  Trusty sling shot I guess.  If you are using trees, I'd appreciate any suggestions about pulleys and weights and so forth to handle the movement.  TU & 73,

Rick - N7WE


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Re: That Windom [

F.R. Ashley
 

I still have 2 aluminum shaft arrows in one tree, they've been up there 10 years or more. Birds just love their fancy perches, lol.

73 Buddy WB4M


On 7/25/2017 2:33 PM, Bill Williams ag4qx@... [070] wrote:
 
My skill is to wrap the line around the branch five times.  I have several sets of weights hanging in the oaks in my back yard ;-)

Bill
AG4QX
0398

On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 12:16 PM, mwbesemer@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
 
I'm a master at 'hitting' limbs with a slingshot and a couple of sinkers.  I'm much less talented at getting the sinkers to go OVER the branch.

It's amazing how fast those sinkers will come back at you - DIRECTLY back at you - after hitting a limb.

Mike
WM4B


On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 11:09 AM, 'F.R. Ashley' gdadx2@... [070] wrote:

I had previously bought a cheap compound bow and taped a 1/2 oz weight to one of the arrows and can hit limbs up to around 75 feet.

73 Buddy WB4M  



Re: That Windom

Jerry N9AVY
 

Considered buying a used bucket truck which I could write off as business expense, but cheapest I could find was around $10k and just couldn't justify that expense. Besides, heard that hydraulics have to be certified every few year

Rental of them starts at about $.300 and up !

So,  I'll stick to hiring a climber when needed.

Jerry. N9AVY

Sent from my iPhone

On 25 Jul 2017, at 13:20, "randy true w4rttrandy@... [070]" <070@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

NO FAIR, CHEAT CHEAT!


Good for you Charles, LOL


Randy W4RTT




From: 070@yahoogroups.com <070@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of Charles Odom ki4vmk@... [070] <070@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 1:10 PM
To: PODXS
Cc: PODXS
Subject: Re: [070] Re: That Windom [1 Attachment]
 
 

I am very fortunate and thankful to have a friend with a bucket truck. I put a 3 ft extension with a pulley and rope off the top of my 60 ft tower. I can let my 80 meter Windom up and down. Works great, only need a tuner on 15 meter band. Have a regular 60 meter dipole at about 45 feet that works 60 and 30 meters.

Charles
KI4VMK  # 2542
On Jul 25, 2017, at 10:52 AM, "randy true w4rttrandy@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:
 

I have my 80M OCF supported at the feedpoint on a 36' pushup mast. Used a compressed air launcher to get the ends over trees at either end.

Each end is approx 35' or so.


Randy W4RTT




From: 070@yahoogroups.com <070@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of Bill Garwood n4gbk@... [070] <070@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 9:02 PM
To: Rick Butz; 070@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [070] Re: That Windom [1 Attachment]
 
 

Hi Rick,


My Carolina Windom 160 is about 20 feet off the ground at the short end and 35 feet up on the long end.  The OCF feedline is 22 feet long and it just clears the ground.  The manufacturer recommends 40 feet or higher for this model.  I"m sure it would perform better on 160 and 80 if I could get it up higher but I have lots of QSOs on both of those bands.  See picture of feed.  The Carolina Windom is a trademarked antenna sold by The Radio Works.  http://www.radioworks.com/.


I see on their site that they are shutting down soon.  The owner is getting older and needs to cut back.  I hope someone, somewhere picks up the Carolina Windom line of antennas as everyone I've ever spoken with has nothing but good things to say.  This design has a vertical and a horizontal radiator that seems to make it work better than some other wire antennas.  I know there are folks who swear by their G5RV, Bazooka and all sorts of trap antennas.  I get it.  An 80 meter version may be what you can use?


Mine has been up continuously for over 4 years.  I used some black, UV protected, stretchy rope that I bought with the antenna at a Ham Fest.   The slingshot antenna launcher eventually got it into the trees.  My aim was not good.  "You'll shoot your eye out".  No pulleys etc.  Wrapped a long length of the rope around the tree at each end and I think that might also have some give and take in the wind.  It bounces up and down a lot in high winds.  It does get very windy here and it has stayed up during tropical storms, Nor'easters and thunderstorms.  I am just a few miles from the Amazon Wind Farm so we got wind.  http://www.avangridrenewables.us/amazonwind/


I guess they are now using drones to get antennas into trees?  It should be much more accurate than the slingshot.  Anyway, the antenna off center feed balun needs some kind of support.  A fiberglass pole or tree.  Let me know if you have other questions. 


73 and Happy Radio!


Bill N4GBK

Amazon Wind Farm U.S. East, powered by Avangrid Renewables at Desert Wind Overview. The Amazon Wind Farm U.S. East (formerly known as the Desert Wind project), a ...


Manufacturer of high performance wire antennas, current-type baluns, line isolators, and wire antenna parts and accessories. Catalog of products, antenna data and ...


From: Rick Butz <n7we1980@...>
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 5:23:50 PM
To: N4GBK
Subject: That Windom
 

Hi Bill -

Read your post on 070 and wanted to ask about your Carolina Windom.  I'm HOA restricted here to a vertical, but do have a couple of Oak trees in the back of the house (that opens up to wetlands and a river - no one behind me).  I definitely need some additional antenna, particularly for the lower bands and near distance.  I'm hoping I can do a stealth install that the roof line will block from view. You mentioned that your install is low.  How high is it? Are you installed using trees?  I'm not sure how I get a Windom up in them.  My tree climbing days are over... hi hi!  Trusty sling shot I guess.  If you are using trees, I'd appreciate any suggestions about pulleys and weights and so forth to handle the movement.  TU & 73,

Rick - N7WE


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Re: That Windom [

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My skill is to wrap the line around the branch five times.  I have several sets of weights hanging in the oaks in my back yard ;-)

Bill
AG4QX
0398

On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 12:16 PM, mwbesemer@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
 

I'm a master at 'hitting' limbs with a slingshot and a couple of sinkers.  I'm much less talented at getting the sinkers to go OVER the branch.

It's amazing how fast those sinkers will come back at you - DIRECTLY back at you - after hitting a limb.

Mike
WM4B


On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 11:09 AM, 'F.R. Ashley' gdadx2@... [070] wrote:

I had previously bought a cheap compound bow and taped a 1/2 oz weight to one of the arrows and can hit limbs up to around 75 feet.

73 Buddy WB4M  



Re: That Windom

Brian (N2MLP)
 

Been using a crossbow last few years

Can shot over anything

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

========================

 

 

From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 2:21 PM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] Re: That Windom

 

 

NO FAIR, CHEAT CHEAT!

 

Good for you Charles, LOL

 

Randy W4RTT

 


From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of Charles Odom ki4vmk@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 1:10 PM
To: PODXS
Cc: PODXS
Subject: Re: [070] Re: That Windom [1 Attachment]

 

 

I am very fortunate and thankful to have a friend with a bucket truck. I put a 3 ft extension with a pulley and rope off the top of my 60 ft tower. I can let my 80 meter Windom up and down. Works great, only need a tuner on 15 meter band. Have a regular 60 meter dipole at about 45 feet that works 60 and 30 meters.

Charles

KI4VMK  # 2542

On Jul 25, 2017, at 10:52 AM, "randy true w4rttrandy@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:

 

I have my 80M OCF supported at the feedpoint on a 36' pushup mast. Used a compressed air launcher to get the ends over trees at either end.

Each end is approx 35' or so.

 

Randy W4RTT

 


From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of Bill Garwood n4gbk@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 9:02 PM
To: Rick Butz; 070@...
Subject: [070] Re: That Windom [1 Attachment]

 

 

Hi Rick,

 

My Carolina Windom 160 is about 20 feet off the ground at the short end and 35 feet up on the long end.  The OCF feedline is 22 feet long and it just clears the ground.  The manufacturer recommends 40 feet or higher for this model.  I"m sure it would perform better on 160 and 80 if I could get it up higher but I have lots of QSOs on both of those bands.  See picture of feed.  The Carolina Windom is a trademarked antenna sold by The Radio Works.  http://www.radioworks.com/.

 

I see on their site that they are shutting down soon.  The owner is getting older and needs to cut back.  I hope someone, somewhere picks up the Carolina Windom line of antennas as everyone I've ever spoken with has nothing but good things to say.  This design has a vertical and a horizontal radiator that seems to make it work better than some other wire antennas.  I know there are folks who swear by their G5RV, Bazooka and all sorts of trap antennas.  I get it.  An 80 meter version may be what you can use?

 

Mine has been up continuously for over 4 years.  I used some black, UV protected, stretchy rope that I bought with the antenna at a Ham Fest.   The slingshot antenna launcher eventually got it into the trees.  My aim was not good.  "You'll shoot your eye out".  No pulleys etc.  Wrapped a long length of the rope around the tree at each end and I think that might also have some give and take in the wind.  It bounces up and down a lot in high winds.  It does get very windy here and it has stayed up during tropical storms, Nor'easters and thunderstorms.  I am just a few miles from the Amazon Wind Farm so we got wind.  http://www.avangridrenewables.us/amazonwind/

 

I guess they are now using drones to get antennas into trees?  It should be much more accurate than the slingshot.  Anyway, the antenna off center feed balun needs some kind of support.  A fiberglass pole or tree.  Let me know if you have other questions. 

 

73 and Happy Radio!

 

Bill N4GBK

www.avangridrenewables.us

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From: Rick Butz
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 5:23:50 PM
To: N4GBK
Subject: That Windom

 

Hi Bill -

Read your post on 070 and wanted to ask about your Carolina Windom.  I'm HOA restricted here to a vertical, but do have a couple of Oak trees in the back of the house (that opens up to wetlands and a river - no one behind me).  I definitely need some additional antenna, particularly for the lower bands and near distance.  I'm hoping I can do a stealth install that the roof line will block from view. You mentioned that your install is low.  How high is it? Are you installed using trees?  I'm not sure how I get a Windom up in them.  My tree climbing days are over... hi hi!  Trusty sling shot I guess.  If you are using trees, I'd appreciate any suggestions about pulleys and weights and so forth to handle the movement.  TU & 73,

Rick - N7WE


Re: That Windom [1 Attachment]

Randy True
 

NO FAIR, CHEAT CHEAT!


Good for you Charles, LOL


Randy W4RTT




From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of Charles Odom ki4vmk@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 1:10 PM
To: PODXS
Cc: PODXS
Subject: Re: [070] Re: That Windom [1 Attachment]
 
 

I am very fortunate and thankful to have a friend with a bucket truck. I put a 3 ft extension with a pulley and rope off the top of my 60 ft tower. I can let my 80 meter Windom up and down. Works great, only need a tuner on 15 meter band. Have a regular 60 meter dipole at about 45 feet that works 60 and 30 meters.

Charles
KI4VMK  # 2542
On Jul 25, 2017, at 10:52 AM, "randy true w4rttrandy@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:
 

I have my 80M OCF supported at the feedpoint on a 36' pushup mast. Used a compressed air launcher to get the ends over trees at either end.

Each end is approx 35' or so.


Randy W4RTT




From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of Bill Garwood n4gbk@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 9:02 PM
To: Rick Butz; 070@...
Subject: [070] Re: That Windom [1 Attachment]
 
 

Hi Rick,


My Carolina Windom 160 is about 20 feet off the ground at the short end and 35 feet up on the long end.  The OCF feedline is 22 feet long and it just clears the ground.  The manufacturer recommends 40 feet or higher for this model.  I"m sure it would perform better on 160 and 80 if I could get it up higher but I have lots of QSOs on both of those bands.  See picture of feed.  The Carolina Windom is a trademarked antenna sold by The Radio Works.  http://www.radioworks.com/.


I see on their site that they are shutting down soon.  The owner is getting older and needs to cut back.  I hope someone, somewhere picks up the Carolina Windom line of antennas as everyone I've ever spoken with has nothing but good things to say.  This design has a vertical and a horizontal radiator that seems to make it work better than some other wire antennas.  I know there are folks who swear by their G5RV, Bazooka and all sorts of trap antennas.  I get it.  An 80 meter version may be what you can use?


Mine has been up continuously for over 4 years.  I used some black, UV protected, stretchy rope that I bought with the antenna at a Ham Fest.   The slingshot antenna launcher eventually got it into the trees.  My aim was not good.  "You'll shoot your eye out".  No pulleys etc.  Wrapped a long length of the rope around the tree at each end and I think that might also have some give and take in the wind.  It bounces up and down a lot in high winds.  It does get very windy here and it has stayed up during tropical storms, Nor'easters and thunderstorms.  I am just a few miles from the Amazon Wind Farm so we got wind.  http://www.avangridrenewables.us/amazonwind/


I guess they are now using drones to get antennas into trees?  It should be much more accurate than the slingshot.  Anyway, the antenna off center feed balun needs some kind of support.  A fiberglass pole or tree.  Let me know if you have other questions. 


73 and Happy Radio!


Bill N4GBK

www.avangridrenewables.us
Amazon Wind Farm U.S. East, powered by Avangrid Renewables at Desert Wind Overview. The Amazon Wind Farm U.S. East (formerly known as the Desert Wind project), a ...


www.radioworks.com
Manufacturer of high performance wire antennas, current-type baluns, line isolators, and wire antenna parts and accessories. Catalog of products, antenna data and ...


From: Rick Butz
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 5:23:50 PM
To: N4GBK
Subject: That Windom
 

Hi Bill -

Read your post on 070 and wanted to ask about your Carolina Windom.  I'm HOA restricted here to a vertical, but do have a couple of Oak trees in the back of the house (that opens up to wetlands and a river - no one behind me).  I definitely need some additional antenna, particularly for the lower bands and near distance.  I'm hoping I can do a stealth install that the roof line will block from view. You mentioned that your install is low.  How high is it? Are you installed using trees?  I'm not sure how I get a Windom up in them.  My tree climbing days are over... hi hi!  Trusty sling shot I guess.  If you are using trees, I'd appreciate any suggestions about pulleys and weights and so forth to handle the movement.  TU & 73,

Rick - N7WE


Re: That Windom [

Randy True
 

Invest in some PVC and you can pick a reel up at a yard sale. The air launchers really do work. I have short trees, but 100" is realistic.


Randy W4RTT




From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of mwbesemer@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 1:16 PM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] Re: That Windom [
 
 

I'm a master at 'hitting' limbs with a slingshot and a couple of sinkers.  I'm much less talented at getting the sinkers to go OVER the branch.

It's amazing how fast those sinkers will come back at you - DIRECTLY back at you - after hitting a limb.

Mike
WM4B


On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 11:09 AM, 'F.R. Ashley' gdadx2@... [070] wrote:

I had previously bought a cheap compound bow and taped a 1/2 oz weight to one of the arrows and can hit limbs up to around 75 feet.

73 Buddy WB4M  


Re: That Windom [

Jerry N9AVY
 

Mike:
 
Thought I save a set of plans for building an air-powered antenna launcher  that used a tennis ball (far less destructive that a sinker),  but as usual can't find it.   Thought about building one and remember a friend bought one at Dayton a few years ago for $59 and said it was better than slingshot, fishing pole and spud gun. It might be somewhere on the net.
 
 
Jerry   n9avy



From: "mwbesemer@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: [070] Re: That Windom [

 
I'm a master at 'hitting' limbs with a slingshot and a couple of sinkers.  I'm much less talented at getting the sinkers to go OVER the branch.

It's amazing how fast those sinkers will come back at you - DIRECTLY back at you - after hitting a limb.

Mike
WM4B


On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 11:09 AM, 'F.R. Ashley' gdadx2@... [070] wrote:

I had previously bought a cheap compound bow and taped a 1/2 oz weight to one of the arrows and can hit limbs up to around 75 feet.

73 Buddy WB4M