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Re: PSK31 Software

Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@...>
 

Actually Steve… I think (working from memory – which is always dangerous) it will run, but it crashes pretty often when the multi RX window is open.  I played with it for a while and gave up.

 

Someone else mentioned Airlink Express.  I was using that for a while but moved on… can’t remember why.  (I think I see a theme here – need to take notes!) Regardless, I’m going to give it a try again today. 

 

PSK Express is also installed and I tried it for a while, but it started crashing.  Maybe I’ll try to uninstall/reinstall.

 

73,

 

Mike

WM4B

#348

 

From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2017 2:17 PM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] PSK31 Software

 

 

> ... I had always used Digipan before, but it refuses to run on my Windows 10 machine. ...

 

Mike -

 

My condolences, but I'm surprised. I've managed to keep my copy of DP 2.0 running from Win95 through XP and Win7 up into Win8.

Reaffirms my decision to avoid the Win10 upgrade last year.

 

Steve

W3HF

 

P.S. I don't have a suggestion because I am still running DP 2.0

 




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Re: PSK31 Software

Stephen Melachrinos
 

> ... I had always used Digipan before, but it refuses to run on my Windows 10 machine. ...

Mike -

My condolences, but I'm surprised. I've managed to keep my copy of DP 2.0 running from Win95 through XP and Win7 up into Win8.
Reaffirms my decision to avoid the Win10 upgrade last year.

Steve
W3HF

P.S. I don't have a suggestion because I am still running DP 2.0




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Re: PSK31 Software

F.R. Ashley
 

Mike,

One very simple program that has very nice and clean GUI like digipan is Airlink Express.� Very easy to set up and use.� Many will vote for FLDigi but for me it was more difficult to get going and also no true FSK.� My personal preference is MixW but it is not free.� I also do not like HRD at all.� Visit DX Zone, it lists probably 20 programs for PSK31, a lot to choose from.


73 Buddy WB4M

1543


On 7/30/2017 11:20 AM, 'Mike Besemer' mwbesemer@... [070] wrote:
�

Good morning all,

I hesitate to ask because I don�t want to start a �Ford vs. Chevy� discussion� but I�m going to ask anyway.

After being off the air for a few years, I�m back on and having fun.� I had always used Digipan before, but it refuses to run on my Windows 10 machine.� I�ve downloaded a bunch of different software for a test drive, and frankly, I miss the look and simplicity of Digipan!

My favorite features were the ability to decode multiple streams and the automatic recognition of a �CQ� on the waterfall.

What�s your favorite software that has these features � and why is it your favorite?� FWIW, I do NOT like HRD/DM780, and I�m NOT going to change my computer or OS.� I�m a guy who lives in front of a computer 10 hours a day 5 days a week, so I just want software that WORKS.

73,

Mike

WM4B

#348



Re: PSK31 Software

Jerry N9AVY
 

Have you tried PSK Express by N7YG ?

Jerry  N9AVY


From: "'Mike Besemer' mwbesemer@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2017 10:20 AM
Subject: [070] PSK31 Software

 
Good morning all,
I hesitate to ask because I don’t want to start a ‘Ford vs. Chevy’ discussion… but I’m going to ask anyway.
After being off the air for a few years, I’m back on and having fun.  I had always used Digipan before, but it refuses to run on my Windows 10 machine.  I’ve downloaded a bunch of different software for a test drive, and frankly, I miss the look and simplicity of Digipan!
My favorite features were the ability to decode multiple streams and the automatic recognition of a ‘CQ’ on the waterfall.
What’s your favorite software that has these features and why is it your favorite?  FWIW, I do NOT like HRD/DM780, and I’m NOT going to change my computer or OS.  I’m a guy who lives in front of a computer 10 hours a day 5 days a week, so I just want software that WORKS.
73,
Mike
WM4B
#348



PSK31 Software

Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@...>
 

Good morning all,

I hesitate to ask because I don’t want to start a ‘Ford vs. Chevy’ discussion… but I’m going to ask anyway.

After being off the air for a few years, I’m back on and having fun.  I had always used Digipan before, but it refuses to run on my Windows 10 machine.  I’ve downloaded a bunch of different software for a test drive, and frankly, I miss the look and simplicity of Digipan!

My favorite features were the ability to decode multiple streams and the automatic recognition of a ‘CQ’ on the waterfall.

What’s your favorite software that has these features and why is it your favorite?  FWIW, I do NOT like HRD/DM780, and I’m NOT going to change my computer or OS.  I’m a guy who lives in front of a computer 10 hours a day 5 days a week, so I just want software that WORKS.

73,

Mike

WM4B

#348


Portable Logging - Was Re: DM49 Coming on the air!

Rick - N7WE
 

Great advice from Steve.  Here are a couple of additional suggestions from my portable trip last year. 


---In 070@..., <melachri@...> wrote :


4. It gets more complicated to use electronic QSL systems, and the way they work is different from system to system.
4a. For LoTW, you use your regular W7RIV certificate since that's the callsign you used. But you have to create a new station location, associate that location with the W7RIV callsign certificate, and sign the cards with that combination.

Secure an additional TSQL certificate for your call with the /P  - if you don’t have one.  If you don’t have one, getting the additional one is easy.  You just request one through TQSL.  Once you have the new certificate installed, the trick is to create a new station location for each different location you operate from with the /P account, not your primary call.

 

  1. In TQSL open the “Station Location” Tab.  It will show both (or all) your certificates.  Highlight the /P certificate.
  2. Select “Create a new Location”
  3. Fill in the appropriate info (first of three screens)
    1. Fill in the call sign with the /P if it didn’t fill automatically.
    2. Fill in the Grid
    3. You can leave ITU, CQ, And IOTA Zones blank if you want
    4. Select “Next”
  4. The next screen requires 2 entries.
    1. State (use the drop down)
    2. County (use the drop down) – Caution! note that it lists all counties, not just the counties for your state!)
    3. Do not check the box for “Allow ‘none’ for State” unless you are operating from a country without states or provinces
    4. Select “Next”
  5. The next screen sets the designator for this particular location.  You can use whatever you want.  I found it useful to use the state abbreviation and a sequential number for each new location within a state.  i.e.  FL-1, FL-2, MS-1, MS-2, etc.
    1. Select “Finish” and you are done!

 

When you upload log entries, simply use the certificate for the /P call and select your station location. 


4b. For eQSL, you need to establish a new account for the new location. Accounts are defined by callsign and a contiguous time period, so this new account is defined by W7RIV and your hours of operation. But here's where it gets messy--it means you have to end your current W7RIV account at a time just before you went portable, and create a new account for home operation that starts after you got back. 

If you set up a new account for the /P call, you can leave the time frame on your primary call in place.  It will let you have a primary account and a /P account with overlapping time periods.  What you can't do is have overlapping time periods within the account.  For the /P call account, you do have to set up a start/stop time specific slot for each location and give each slot a different "QTH Nickname".  Again I name by state abbreviation and a number i.e - FL-2, FL-3.  But different from LoTW you can't add more operations at a later date to the same "QTH Nickname".  I end up with FL-2a etc.  It sounds harder than it is.  It is easier to create the account once the portable operation is complete and you know the definite end time.

To set up the new account, log on to eQSL and go to My Accounts (the Globe icon on the first screen). Cursor down to the bottom of the page and you'll see the Register A New Attached Account block.  Fill in the info making sure to not overlap the start time with the end time of a previous /P account.  You can modify the end time of a previous account if you get the overlap message.  But you have to go back to the My Profile page (home screen and the Paper/Pencil Icon), modify the end time, and then return to the Register A new Attached Account block and start all over.  Again, it sounds much harder than it is.

Hope this helps.  And if you have questions feel free to email me off list.  My email address is good on QRZ.com

Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602


Re: DM49 Coming on the air!

Steve R
 

For QRZ.com you can create a new log. In his case it would have been easier to create a log as operating as a /P. He could however create a new log with the date/times of his activation. When you set up a new log you can put in a new grid location.

Steve
#2301

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On Jul 30, 2017, at 07:21, Stephen Melachrinos melachri@... [070] <070@...> wrote:

 

Bryon -


There really is no absolute right or wrong in this, but some options make it more complicated depending on how you want to QSL. I've posted some of this to the reflector in the past, but here's a quick summary.

1. First of all, you can legally operate as W7RIV. FCC does not require you to use a portable identifier--it's your choice.
2. Second, you operated as W7RIV. That means that you have to QSL as W7RIV. You can't change the callsign you operated under after the fact. But you do have to keep your log entries separate--don't just mix them up with your regular log entries as you want to QSL them from DM49, not your home QTH.
3. If you only want to QSL on paper, it's easy. Just make sure you use "different" QSL cards for this activation. That doesn't mean you have to print new ones--you can hand-write on paper cards your actual location (town, grid, etc). But please make sure the cards indicate where the station really was.
4. It gets more complicated to use electronic QSL systems, and the way they work is different from system to system.
4a. For LoTW, you use your regular W7RIV certificate since that's the callsign you used. But you have to create a new station location, associate that location with the W7RIV callsign certificate, and sign the cards with that combination.
4b. For eQSL, you need to establish a new account for the new location. Accounts are defined by callsign and a contiguous time period, so this new account is defined by W7RIV and your hours of operation. But here's where it gets messy--it means you have to end your current W7RIV account at a time just before you went portable, and create a new account for home operation that starts after you got back. 
4c. I'm not sure what to do about QRZ, HRD, or any other electronic system as I don't use them.
5. Finally, if your log program automatically uploads to any electronic system, do NOT let it do that with these QSOs. That is the equivalent of sending paper QSLs from your home QTH. The right way to partition the QSOs depends on the logging program--some may let you set station location by QSO, others may make you create separate files, etc. 

Steve
W3HF


-----Original Message-----
From: Bryon nnegrom@... [070] <070@...>
To: 070 <070@...>
Sent: Sun, Jul 30, 2017 2:27 am
Subject: Re: [070] DM49 Coming on the air!



Barry,

Maybe I messed up. I didn't use /P 

What would have been the best thing to do?

Bryon, W7RIV

On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 5:47 PM, boat.anchor@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
 
Bryon

Not sure what you are doing with your logging from a different QTH
Are you using W7RIV/P 
Just curious how to enter the contact
TU
Barry
VB7150





Re: DM49 Coming on the air!

David Westbrook
 

Dxlab/dxkeeper has nice complete functionality for this, where you can create different QTH profiles (call, grid, county, qsl address, etc) and then assign qth profile to QSOs. So everything is in a single log.  Supports corresponding lotw/eqsl profiles, and paper qsling, and the award reporting (e.g. which profiles to count for dxcc, was, etc).

This type of scenario isnt just for trips..  Same for a move where home qth changes.

Dont have link handy at moment but there's a specific section in the docs.

73
-david
KJ4IZW

On Jul 30, 2017 07:21, "Stephen Melachrinos melachri@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:
 

Bryon -


There really is no absolute right or wrong in this, but some options make it more complicated depending on how you want to QSL. I've posted some of this to the reflector in the past, but here's a quick summary.

1. First of all, you can legally operate as W7RIV. FCC does not require you to use a portable identifier--it's your choice.
2. Second, you operated as W7RIV. That means that you have to QSL as W7RIV. You can't change the callsign you operated under after the fact. But you do have to keep your log entries separate--don't just mix them up with your regular log entries as you want to QSL them from DM49, not your home QTH.
3. If you only want to QSL on paper, it's easy. Just make sure you use "different" QSL cards for this activation. That doesn't mean you have to print new ones--you can hand-write on paper cards your actual location (town, grid, etc). But please make sure the cards indicate where the station really was.
4. It gets more complicated to use electronic QSL systems, and the way they work is different from system to system.
4a. For LoTW, you use your regular W7RIV certificate since that's the callsign you used. But you have to create a new station location, associate that location with the W7RIV callsign certificate, and sign the cards with that combination.
4b. For eQSL, you need to establish a new account for the new location. Accounts are defined by callsign and a contiguous time period, so this new account is defined by W7RIV and your hours of operation. But here's where it gets messy--it means you have to end your current W7RIV account at a time just before you went portable, and create a new account for home operation that starts after you got back. 
4c. I'm not sure what to do about QRZ, HRD, or any other electronic system as I don't use them.
5. Finally, if your log program automatically uploads to any electronic system, do NOT let it do that with these QSOs. That is the equivalent of sending paper QSLs from your home QTH. The right way to partition the QSOs depends on the logging program--some may let you set station location by QSO, others may make you create separate files, etc. 

Steve
W3HF


-----Original Message-----
From: Bryon nnegrom@... [070] <070@...>
To: 070 <070@...>
Sent: Sun, Jul 30, 2017 2:27 am
Subject: Re: [070] DM49 Coming on the air!



Barry,

Maybe I messed up. I didn't use /P 

What would have been the best thing to do?

Bryon, W7RIV

On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 5:47 PM, boat.anchor@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
 
Bryon

Not sure what you are doing with your logging from a different QTH
Are you using W7RIV/P 
Just curious how to enter the contact
TU
Barry
VB7150






Re: DM49 Coming on the air!

Stephen Melachrinos
 

Bryon -

There really is no absolute right or wrong in this, but some options make it more complicated depending on how you want to QSL. I've posted some of this to the reflector in the past, but here's a quick summary.

1. First of all, you can legally operate as W7RIV. FCC does not require you to use a portable identifier--it's your choice.
2. Second, you operated as W7RIV. That means that you have to QSL as W7RIV. You can't change the callsign you operated under after the fact. But you do have to keep your log entries separate--don't just mix them up with your regular log entries as you want to QSL them from DM49, not your home QTH.
3. If you only want to QSL on paper, it's easy. Just make sure you use "different" QSL cards for this activation. That doesn't mean you have to print new ones--you can hand-write on paper cards your actual location (town, grid, etc). But please make sure the cards indicate where the station really was.
4. It gets more complicated to use electronic QSL systems, and the way they work is different from system to system.
4a. For LoTW, you use your regular W7RIV certificate since that's the callsign you used. But you have to create a new station location, associate that location with the W7RIV callsign certificate, and sign the cards with that combination.
4b. For eQSL, you need to establish a new account for the new location. Accounts are defined by callsign and a contiguous time period, so this new account is defined by W7RIV and your hours of operation. But here's where it gets messy--it means you have to end your current W7RIV account at a time just before you went portable, and create a new account for home operation that starts after you got back. 
4c. I'm not sure what to do about QRZ, HRD, or any other electronic system as I don't use them.
5. Finally, if your log program automatically uploads to any electronic system, do NOT let it do that with these QSOs. That is the equivalent of sending paper QSLs from your home QTH. The right way to partition the QSOs depends on the logging program--some may let you set station location by QSO, others may make you create separate files, etc. 

Steve
W3HF


-----Original Message-----
From: Bryon nnegrom@... [070] <070@...>
To: 070 <070@...>
Sent: Sun, Jul 30, 2017 2:27 am
Subject: Re: [070] DM49 Coming on the air!



Barry,

Maybe I messed up. I didn't use /P 

What would have been the best thing to do?

Bryon, W7RIV

On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 5:47 PM, boat.anchor@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
 
Bryon

Not sure what you are doing with your logging from a different QTH
Are you using W7RIV/P 
Just curious how to enter the contact
TU
Barry
VB7150





Re: DM49, what band do you want?

W7RIV
 

I was below 40w, when you mentioned pushing it a bit, I upped the power to see what it would do. I was hoping I could get out a little further. I didn't know to check the ALC. I'll check that out next time. I'm going to do APE on August 19th in Grid DM39. AM to Afternoon on 20m or any other band people need.

Bryon, W7RIV

On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 3:03 PM, n7we1980@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
 

Hi Byron-


Since you were already at 50w, I wouldn't have pushed the power up.  But how do you tell if you are distorting?Other than a field report from someone - and they can't always be relied on - most just go with watching the  ALC. As you probably know, the normal rule is you are good if no ALC is showing,  But I think you are running a K3 which is different.   For the K3 the rule is 4 bars of ALC and the 5th flickering.  The K3 has a really clean transmitter and you can push it beyond 50w (if everything else is right) and still be <-25 IMD.  I don't recommend running that high a power on PSK.  From my base station, generally 25 to 30w is enough. But sometimes with a portable operation where you have a less than good antenna, you have to push the power up a bit to compensate.  I pushed it up to 50w several times when N7WE/P last year. 

I suppose the ultimate answer would be to have a spectrum analyzer in line, but I don't have that kind of $.  So I use a "IMD Meter by kk7uq" in addition to the ALC indication on the K3.  There is also something called a PSK Meter (I think) but I've never used one.  If you get a chance to pick up the IMD Meter on the used market, I highly recommend them.  They are out of production now, but come up for sale occasionally.

Hope that answers the question and hope you had a great day portable.  Sure is a different thing than operating from your station at home. I wish I could do more of it!  73,

Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602



Re: DM49 Coming on the air!

W7RIV
 

Barry,

Maybe I messed up. I didn't use /P 

What would have been the best thing to do?

Bryon, W7RIV

On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 5:47 PM, boat.anchor@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
 

Bryon


Not sure what you are doing with your logging from a different QTH
Are you using W7RIV/P 
Just curious how to enter the contact
TU
Barry
VB7150



2017 APE

Larry
 


Next weekend starts APE.  Marty KJ4LQX will kick off this year’s APE from Jacksonville, FL.


Check the web site for a list of current 2017 APEs.

 

For you new members APE stands for August PSK Expedition.  It is an event of the PODXS 070 club.  It is where you set up portable operations and make contacts using PSK, it is kind of like a PSK Field Day.  We have had APEs from a pontoon boat, and operating from the trunk of your car in a European park.  Check the web site for details requirements and look at some of the past APEs in the Tall Tales section.


We still plenty of openings so send in your registration now. 

 

Larry

WB5CXC – APE Coordinator



KL7QZ

boat.anchor@...
 

John is on 20M from AK. 23:58Z

Barry



Re: DM49 Coming on the air!

boat.anchor@...
 

Bryon

Not sure what you are doing with your logging from a different QTH
Are you using W7RIV/P 
Just curious how to enter the contact
TU
Barry
VB7150


Re: DM49 Coming on the air!

Dan Morris - KZ3T
 

HAHA,  Sorry. . .

Dan Morris

I live to live for Him!






On Jul 29, 2017, at 6:02 PM, Paula Johnson hamette@... [070] <070@...> wrote:


Awww, you popped my bubble !      

Paula

On Jul 29, 2017, at 2:45 PM, Dan Morris dbmorris315@... [070] <070@...> wrote:

 

Oh no Paula, I got him when he first came on the air and I’m in NC!!  LOL   :-)


Dan Morris  KZ3T

I live to live for Him!



On Jul 29, 2017, at 2:13 PM, 'Hamette' hamette@... [070] <070@...> wrote:


I got him! For once I can see someone that you east coasties can’t get. Barry got ‘im too! J

 

Paula K7PAX #1739

 

From: 070@... [mailto:070@...] 
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2017 09:57
To: 070@...
Subject: [070] DM49 Coming on the air!

 

  

Look for W7RIV, just finishing the setup.

 

Bryon, W7RIV







Re: DM49 Coming on the air!

Paula K7PAX #1739
 

Awww, you popped my bubble !      

Paula

On Jul 29, 2017, at 2:45 PM, Dan Morris dbmorris315@... [070] <070@...> wrote:

 

Oh no Paula, I got him when he first came on the air and I’m in NC!!  LOL   :-)


Dan Morris  KZ3T

I live to live for Him!



On Jul 29, 2017, at 2:13 PM, 'Hamette' hamette@... [070] <070@...> wrote:


I got him! For once I can see someone that you east coasties can’t get. Barry got ‘im too! J

 

Paula K7PAX #1739

 

From: 070@... [mailto:070@...] 
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2017 09:57
To: 070@...
Subject: [070] DM49 Coming on the air!

 

  

Look for W7RIV, just finishing the setup.

 

Bryon, W7RIV




Re: DM49 Coming on the air!

Dan Morris - KZ3T
 

Oh no Paula, I got him when he first came on the air and I’m in NC!!  LOL   :-)

Dan Morris  KZ3T

I live to live for Him!



On Jul 29, 2017, at 2:13 PM, 'Hamette' hamette@... [070] <070@...> wrote:


I got him! For once I can see someone that you east coasties can’t get. Barry got ‘im too! J

 

Paula K7PAX #1739

 

From: 070@... [mailto:070@...] 
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2017 09:57
To: 070@...
Subject: [070] DM49 Coming on the air!

 

  

Look for W7RIV, just finishing the setup.

 

Bryon, W7RIV




Re: DM49, what band do you want?

Rick - N7WE
 

Hi Byron-

Since you were already at 50w, I wouldn't have pushed the power up.  But how do you tell if you are distorting?Other than a field report from someone - and they can't always be relied on - most just go with watching the  ALC. As you probably know, the normal rule is you are good if no ALC is showing,  But I think you are running a K3 which is different.   For the K3 the rule is 4 bars of ALC and the 5th flickering.  The K3 has a really clean transmitter and you can push it beyond 50w (if everything else is right) and still be <-25 IMD.  I don't recommend running that high a power on PSK.  From my base station, generally 25 to 30w is enough. But sometimes with a portable operation where you have a less than good antenna, you have to push the power up a bit to compensate.  I pushed it up to 50w several times when N7WE/P last year. 

I suppose the ultimate answer would be to have a spectrum analyzer in line, but I don't have that kind of $.  So I use a "IMD Meter by kk7uq" in addition to the ALC indication on the K3.  There is also something called a PSK Meter (I think) but I've never used one.  If you get a chance to pick up the IMD Meter on the used market, I highly recommend them.  They are out of production now, but come up for sale occasionally.

Hope that answers the question and hope you had a great day portable.  Sure is a different thing than operating from your station at home. I wish I could do more of it!  73,

Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602


Re: DM49 Coming on the air!

Jerry N9AVY
 

Thought I saw a weak trace, but a KB3 called me, but I kinda rushed  him off  because I was hunting a station I saw that was in DM37.    (think it was KD7TTT)  , a needed grid.   Never found him again because of loud crash in kitchen  from Granddaughter Katie slipping on wet floor  which was followed by a lengthy phone call  from an old friend.  Never made it back to radio !
 
 
Jerry  n9avy
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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From: "Bryon nnegrom@... [070]" <070@...>
To: "070@..." <070@...>
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2017 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: [070] DM49 Coming on the air!

 
Thanks Paula. I had messed up the Grid on your call. It should be DM49, make sure you log DM49.

Thanks again.  I saw N9AVY clear clear clear....cannot see me Jerry?

On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 12:13 PM, 'Hamette' hamette@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
 
I got him! For once I can see someone that you east coasties can’t get. Barry got ‘im too! J
 
Paula K7PAX #1739
 
From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2017 09:57
To: 070@...
Subject: [070] DM49 Coming on the air!
 
 
Look for W7RIV, just finishing the setup.
 
Bryon, W7RIV




DM49 Progress...

W7RIV
 

Hello everyone. Thanks for all the members reaching out to me. I feel a little bad that I am not taking the time to talk. With the limited time I have, I'm trying to work as many as possible. I didn't add the 070 to my laptop, I wish I would have. Thanks for those members mentioning they are 070.

I've made about 18 QSOs and it is a new grid for many. So that has been fun and made it worth while. I would like to get up into Canada for those needing it. 

I'm going to rotate the antenna a little bit and see if that helps anyone.

Bryon, W7RIV