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Re: FT8

keitheuffer@...
 

FT8 is active just below JT65 on 40 meters 7.076.  I've spotted them right on that frequency, too.    That would be like psk31 and JT65 on the same frequency - very annoying.   Also, I was chastised by a JT9 user not long ago for being just above the JT65 crowd on 20 meters.  I was told I was interfering with their QSOs.  In the words of brother Rodney, "why can't we all just get along"?
KT4EP
(All the local new hams here with HF privileges are 'ga-ga' over FT8.  The new shiny bauble, as I have heard).


Endorsement rejections

Jerry N9AVY
 


If anyone has had rejections for Alaska, Hawaii or Antarctica please check those call signs against QRZ or FCC database.  Many AK & HI stations have been stateside for years.  DO NOT  BELIEVE your log when it auto-inserts the country for you. 
 
Just a heads up...
 
Jerry  N9AVY  #454


Re: Finally

Jerry N9AVY
 

Yes, even from here in IL the Western states are harder to work.  Unless the FCC issues licenses to prairie dogs and other critters  , we'll probably be limited to hams willing to drive out to the various grids. Got a lot of Western grids thanks to your trip last year !
 
This grid endorsement  is doable, but it will be something to work during periods of poor propagation.  Heck, it's something to do when there is no DX.  Think the endorsements give everyone something to do when things are slow.

Jerry  n9avy


From: "n7we1980@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Sunday, August 6, 2017 11:51 AM
Subject: [070] Re: Finally

 
Congrats Jerry!  As far as the western states....goooooood luck!  There are some grids out there where people, let alone hams working PSK31, are hard to find.  I think western grids are a lot easier from western QTHs. Maybe a road trip, or getting freindly hams to invite you to guest operate from their QTH?  Nothing in the rules say all QSOs have to be from your home QTH.  But you can't count the grids you work from.  Tried that....didn't fly!  Hi hi.

Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602



Re: Finally

Rick - N7WE
 

Congrats Jerry!  As far as the western states....goooooood luck!  There are some grids out there where people, let alone hams working PSK31, are hard to find.  I think western grids are a lot easier from western QTHs. Maybe a road trip, or getting freindly hams to invite you to guest operate from their QTH?  Nothing in the rules say all QSOs have to be from your home QTH.  But you can't count the grids you work from.  Tried that....didn't fly!  Hi hi.

Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602


Finally

Jerry N9AVY
 


After months of hunting for elusive EM91 grid, I finally worked KA4KOE in EM91 !   Snagged him as he was heading away from radio.  That QSO completed GA  for me....  now just a few grids in WI, MI, & LA  and I'll have everything East of the Mississippi River finished.  After that the uphill battle  for Western U.S. begins ... oh joy  :-(
 
 
Jerry  n9avy  #454


Re: Is Grid FM28 a hard one to get?

Justin Mattes--KC2GIK
 

Please forgive me but I have been away from the computer for a week. I'm
actua
lly IN grid FM28 and as soon as I get back on the air I'll be able to give
it out

Justin KC2GIK

Jerry

I agree about unpopulated grids.
Also need to factor in the Black Holes of which there appear to be a
few.


Barry



---In 070@..., <n9avy@...> wrote :

Yup, kinda figured that many grids out West have more critters than
people. Some are probably government land which is probably posted "no
trespassing" (Area 51). Some is also in mountains or deserts which often
has little or no population.

Guess I'm like you in that I call CQ and am always surprised at whoever
answers... just like fishing ! When I work someone for the second time,
it's like meeting up with an old friend.

Jerry n9avy





Re: Raspeberry PI and PSK

Chris J LaRue NO7E
 

I have a PI 3 B and it runs FLDIGI just perfectly.  I am using a 32 Gig SD card in mine, Bluetooth to the 4G Android tablet for internet sharing and it works great.  I think there was an article on it in July????? QST as well.


73 de Chris NO7E
no7e@...
no7e@...
702-292-0880
OMISS #10925
PODXS 070 #2551
Feld Hell #5846
On 8/5/17 8:52 AM, k9wis@... [070] wrote:
 


HAs anybody tried running fldigi or some other psk program on a raspberryPI...Im looking for a lightweight replacement for a labtop in I go out portable??

Briak K9WIS


-- 


Setting Up An Elecraft K3

Radio <radio@...>
 

Hello All,

An interesting issue just came up over on the Elecraft reflector about setting up the K3/K3S for digital that i thought might be of some interest to this group.

As you may know a K3 isn’t like most radios when it comes to the ALC meter. The first 4 bars of the ALC meter show the audio level below the threshold that the ALC kicks in.

Therefor, the Elecraft recommended method is to transmit a carrier and increase the audio drive until 4 bars are solid and the 5th bar is just beginning to flicker.

I could never seem to get 4 solid bars: the ALC meter would “pump” between zero bars and 6 or even 7 bars. K0DTJ finally figured out that if the radio was set to [Mhz] + 1500 hz (which is the center of the bandpass) this happened. By merely setting the radio to [Mhz] + 1350 hz (or +1750 Hz) this phenomena no longer occurred and the radio could be set precisely at the correct drive level.

The “pumping” or pulsing occurs when some process in the K3 is beating with any 500 Hz interval.

This has been bugging me for years and I was happy that Brian finally figured it out.

73 de Eric, KG6MZS


Re: KC3EF Portable Operation in Delaware

Richard Rohrer
 

Unfortunately I have disassembled the station as I am getting ready to head back to FL.  Will be up in the area again in Sept and then again in November.  Let me know if you still need DE.

73
Dick
KC3EF


Raspeberry PI and PSK

k9wis@...
 

HAs anybody tried running fldigi or some other psk program on a raspberryPI...Im looking for a lightweight replacement for a labtop in I go out portable??

Briak K9WIS


Re: FT8 Mode

k9wis@...
 

Like generating income to pay thier execs and lawyers?? Unfortunately I couldnt affort a $180 life membership 50 years ago when I was a teen.
Brian K9WIS
(Former ARRL member that got priced out with the last increase)

---- "Jerry @N9AVY [070]" <070@...> wrote:

Run roughshod over them !  They'll get tired of fighting QRM or start a war !    Seriously, someone needs to come up with a decent band plan to keep this kind of stuff from happening.  I doubt that ARRL will do much since their interest lays in promoting other things. Jerry  N9AVY

From: "Charles Odom ki4vmk@... [070]" <070@...>
To: PODXS <070@...>
Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 1:20 PM
Subject: [070] FT8 Mode

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Re: FT8

Richard Rohrer
 

The spread of FT8 over other users seems to be a problem on 20 mtrs for other digital mode users and for cw nets on 80 mtrs.  Apparently the FT8 user group did not bother to see what other users/modes maybe already using the frequencies and just decided to put FT8 there.  Originally it was suppose to go 3 khz above the JT65 frequencies which would have eliminated the problem.  I have already gotten an warning from the protectors of the FT8 frequencies that I should move to a different frequency as not to cause interference on a frequency that I normally use of Hellschriber.  

Just my 2 cents.

Dick
KC3EF 


Re: FT8

F.R. Ashley
 

FWIW, I have emailed the WSJT-X development team with the concern of the default FT8 frequency on 17 meters.

I will post their reply.

73 Buddy WB4M
1545


Windjammer APE

DAVE KB3RAN 1692/381
 

I'm taking a Maine Windjammer cruise on the Lewis B French out of Camden ME on Aug 22 to 27th.  I will try to set up a station some nights when we are anchored for the night.  Not sure what nights I'll be able to set up.  My location will be determined by the wind.  Hopefully I'll be able to figure out my grid.  I will know my lat/long from the marine chart or gps.  Look for KB3RAN/MM  Windjammer    mostly on 20 meters running my FT857 to a magloop antenna.  


Dave Hardy

KB3RAN  1692/381


Re: FT8

Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@...>
 

But until the ‘suggested’ anchor is changed in the software, nobody will
move. Problem is, 17 meters is pretty narrow.

I’m not sure how much PSK activity there is on 17 meters – always seems dead
when I’m there – but since FT8 is a ‘weak signal mode’ (although a lot of
people don’t think it’s a very good one), you think they’d want to avoid the
PSK region of the band.

FWIW, I worked several stations on FT8 tonight that the software reported as
-19 dB (I don’t know what that’s reference to) but to me the traces looked
pretty strong and I suspect if it had been PSK the qso would have been quite
possible.

Mike
WM4B

From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 9:21 PM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] FT8

 
FT-8 freqs: Just go into the settings in WSJT-X and change the default freq.
to anything you want. None of this is set in stone.  I would "suggest" FT-8
default frequency raised closer to the 18.110 limit than lower into the CW
portion.  Seems like the JT modes, PSK and RTTY already competing for a very
small sliver of 17m.

73 Buddy WB4M
1545

I have been looking at FT8 as well.  If you download the program WSJT-X
1.8.0 and select FT8 and 17 meters, it automatically sets your frequency at
18.100.  You can complain to the individual operators all you want but the
solution would be to get the software gurus to change the 17 meter frequency
in the software to something other than 18.100.  This change could be made
fairly quickly and most of the current FT8 folks who get the regular
software updates and all new ones just coming up to speed on FT8 would have
the other frequency as their standard.  FT8 is new and still in development.
 It is a new world out there with things changing quickly.


Re: FT8

Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@...>
 

Hey! It was MY idea FIRST! (Pout!)

Mike (but ya doesn’t have to call me Michael)
WM4B
#348

From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 8:53 PM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] FT8


Level heads prevail ! Tnx Bill.

Jerry N9AVY

________________________________________
From: "Bill Garwood n4gbk@... [070]" <070@...>
To: "070@..." <070@...>
Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 7:28 PM
Subject: [070] FT8


Hi Folks,

I have been looking at FT8 as well. If you download the program WSJT-X 1.8.0 and select FT8 and 17 meters, it automatically sets your frequency at 18.100. You can complain to the individual operators all you want but the solution would be to get the software gurus to change the 17 meter frequency in the software to something other than 18.100. This change could be made fairly quickly and most of the current FT8 folks who get the regular software updates and all new ones just coming up to speed on FT8 would have the other frequency as their standard. FT8 is new and still in development. It is a new world out there with things changing quickly.

As was mentioned earlier today on this reflector, a nicely worded email to Joe K1JT asking him about why they chose 18.100 for the FT8 frequency and asking him to see if there is another frequency they might use for this mode, might be in order. Does the PODXS Club have an officer that might serve as the frequency coordinator?

I have not seen any FT8 operation in any of our other regular PSK31 frequencies. I have seen other digital modes but not FT8. Also what does the EPC or other PSK groups have to say about this. There are a lot of FT8 operators in Europe and beyond. I expect the 17 meter FT8 issue is world-wide.

73,
Bill N4GBK #1688


Re: FT8

F.R. Ashley
 

FT-8 freqs: Just go into the settings in WSJT-X and change the default freq. to anything you want. None of this is set in stone.� I would "suggest" FT-8 default frequency raised closer to the 18.110 limit than lower into the CW portion.� Seems like the JT modes, PSK and RTTY already competing for a very small sliver of 17m.

73 Buddy WB4M
1545


I have been looking at FT8 as well. �If you download the program WSJT-X 1.8.0 and select FT8 and 17 meters, it automatically sets your frequency at 18.100. �You can complain to the individual operators all you want but the solution would be to get the software gurus to change the 17 meter frequency in the software to something other than 18.100. �This change could be made fairly quickly and most of the current FT8 folks who get the regular software�updates and all new ones just coming up to speed on FT8 would have the other frequency as their standard. �FT8 is new and still in development. �It is a new world out there with things changing quickly.




Re: FT8

Jerry N9AVY
 

Level heads prevail !   Tnx Bill.
 
Jerry  N9AVY



From: "Bill Garwood n4gbk@... [070]" <070@...>
To: "070@..." <070@...>
Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 7:28 PM
Subject: [070] FT8

 
Hi Folks,

I have been looking at FT8 as well.  If you download the program WSJT-X 1.8.0 and select FT8 and 17 meters, it automatically sets your frequency at 18.100.  You can complain to the individual operators all you want but the solution would be to get the software gurus to change the 17 meter frequency in the software to something other than 18.100.  This change could be made fairly quickly and most of the current FT8 folks who get the regular software updates and all new ones just coming up to speed on FT8 would have the other frequency as their standard.  FT8 is new and still in development.  It is a new world out there with things changing quickly.

As was mentioned earlier today on this reflector, a nicely worded email to Joe K1JT asking him about why they chose 18.100 for the FT8 frequency and asking him to see if there is another frequency they might use for this mode, might be in order.  Does the PODXS Club have an officer that might serve as the frequency coordinator?  

I have not seen any FT8 operation in any of our other regular PSK31 frequencies.  I have seen other digital modes but not FT8.  Also what does the EPC or other PSK groups have to say about this.  There are a lot of FT8 operators in Europe and beyond.  I expect the 17 meter FT8 issue is world-wide.

73,
Bill N4GBK #1688




FT8

Bill Garwood
 

Hi Folks,


I have been looking at FT8 as well.  If you download the program WSJT-X 1.8.0 and select FT8 and 17 meters, it automatically sets your frequency at 18.100.  You can complain to the individual operators all you want but the solution would be to get the software gurus to change the 17 meter frequency in the software to something other than 18.100.  This change could be made fairly quickly and most of the current FT8 folks who get the regular software updates and all new ones just coming up to speed on FT8 would have the other frequency as their standard.  FT8 is new and still in development.  It is a new world out there with things changing quickly.


As was mentioned earlier today on this reflector, a nicely worded email to Joe K1JT asking him about why they chose 18.100 for the FT8 frequency and asking him to see if there is another frequency they might use for this mode, might be in order.  Does the PODXS Club have an officer that might serve as the frequency coordinator?  


I have not seen any FT8 operation in any of our other regular PSK31 frequencies.  I have seen other digital modes but not FT8.  Also what does the EPC or other PSK groups have to say about this.  There are a lot of FT8 operators in Europe and beyond.  I expect the 17 meter FT8 issue is world-wide.


73,

Bill N4GBK #1688



Re: FT8 Mode

Jerry N9AVY
 

Yes, it was in jest.   Last time some LID told me he owned the frequency, I told that I had the deed to frequency he sold me !
 
 
Jerry  N9AVY



From: "aj4tf@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 6:07 PM
Subject: [070] Re: FT8 Mode

 
Suggestions to cause intentional interference to another station and claims to "own" a frequency are unsettling even though I'm sure they are in jest.

No one owns a frequency. Yes there are voluntary band plans but there will always be changes in transmission modes that voluntary band plans will not keep up with. It is a hobby, relax and enjoy it.