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Re: 17M
Peter Hiltz
I see him too in Eldersburg MD Pete wv3s
On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 2:51 PM, Otets Richard rickocr2005@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
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Re: 17M
Seeing you working WB8YXF at 1851 UTC Jerry N9AVY
From: "randy true w4rttrandy@... [070]" <070@...> To: "070@..." <070@...> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [070] 17M Yes, 17m.
I'm still there at 18.098 + 1500
Randy W4RTT
From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of Peter Hiltz pmhiltz@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 1:03 PM To: 070@... Subject: Re: [070] 17M Randy,
What band? 17m?
Pete
On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 1:02 PM, randy true
w4rttrandy@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
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Re: 17M
Randy, I see ya and am calling.... Fr Richard WB8YXF
On Wednesday, October 11, 2017, 2:45:04 PM EDT, randy true w4rttrandy@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
Yes, 17m. I'm still there at 18.098 + 1500
Randy W4RTT From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of Peter Hiltz pmhiltz@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 1:03 PM To: 070@... Subject: Re: [070] 17M Randy,
What band? 17m?
Pete
On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 1:02 PM, randy true
w4rttrandy@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
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Re: 17 meters
tom@...
Umm it's just like every DXpedition, and every Phone, CW, RTTY contest ...ever...
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Ham radio has million different things for all types of people. 73, Tom ---In 070@..., <n9avy@...> wrote :
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17M
The FT8 signals are down here now, also.
Randy W4RTT
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Re: 17M
Yes, 17m. I'm still there at 18.098 + 1500
Randy W4RTT
From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of Peter Hiltz pmhiltz@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 1:03 PM To: 070@... Subject: Re: [070] 17M Randy,
What band? 17m?
Pete
On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 1:02 PM, randy true
w4rttrandy@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
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Re: 365+1 back in action
Glad you got it David.� Keep on keepin' on.� It's in sight! Rick - N7WE070 - #1602
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Re: 17M
Peter Hiltz
Randy, What band? 17m? Pete
On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 1:02 PM, randy true w4rttrandy@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
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17M
Calling at .098 + 1400
Randy W4RTT
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Re: 17 meters
Jonathan Wilson <eaglescout.jonathan@...>
I'll echo what David said.�� The weak signal modes are not for
ragchewing, but with how a lot of people use macro's psk31 (myself
included) is becoming the same. ~Jonathan KC1BOS
On 10/11/17 12:18 PM, David Rock
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Re: 17 meters
David, K9DWR
* Charles Odom ki4vmk@yahoo.com [070] <070@yahoogroups.com> [2017-10-11 09:49]:
With JT65, JT9 and FT8 the trend is to make a contact and log it. NoHave you ever tried to have a conversation over a JT mode? It's practically impossible. There's also nothing "fast" about JT. When all you can send every minute is a handful of characters, it doesn't lend itself very well to ragchewing. Don't rag on the modes; they have valid uses and work well for what they are meant to do: terse communication in bad conditions. Not every mode is meant to be used for ragchewing and should not be blasted because the design of the mode doesn't lend itself to it. Use the right tool for the job and don't expect a mode to be something it isn't. I can use a screwdriver as a hammer, but it makes a much better screwdriver. I can't be upset if it makes a crappy hammer; I chose to use it incorrectly. This is a valid discussion for something like PSK-31 where conversation as a ragchew *is* possible. Now you are talking about the operators being the ones that are not interested in talking and just sending macro, macro, SK. That's not the case with JT modes. They are not designed as conversation modes, they are designed as contact modes that can reliably send small bits of information. If that's not what you want, then just don't use them. -- David, K9DWR #1604 LONP #255 david@graniteweb.com
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Re: 17 meters
There a lot of bands, modes, and power level to make it a lifetime project
Working WAS on two meters is a lot of time, 440 lifetime.
From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 11:46 AM To: 070@... Subject: Re: [070] 17 meters
Brian:
That's awful ! Working WAS in one day. Kind of reminds me of guys who got into DXing , worked all the DXCC countries and disappeared from Amateur Radio after spend big $$$$$ on equipment, towers, & antennas. Takes all the fun out. Guess it's the "instant gratification" generation.
Jerry n9avy
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Plus working WAS in one day is fun.
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Re: 17 meters
Brian: That's awful ! Working WAS in one day. Kind of reminds me of guys who got into DXing , worked all the DXCC countries and disappeared from Amateur Radio after spend big $$$$$ on equipment, towers, & antennas. Takes all the fun out. Guess it's the "instant gratification" generation. Jerry n9avy
From: "'Brian' n2mlp@... [070]" <070@...> To: 070@... Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 10:37 AM Subject: RE: [070] 17 meters Plus working WAS in one day is fun.
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Re: 17 meters
True but can always run SSB or CW and enjoy long QSO Or if you want to be old school AM
There a lot of places and modes to work on bands
Think if there were not two modes trying to use same band space no one would care
From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 11:40 AM To: 070@... Subject: Re: [070] 17 meters
Seems to me that it's just another version of collecting Facebook Friends game. Log a bunch of people you don't know without knowing anything about them.
Guess different strokes for different folks.
From: "Charles Odom ki4vmk@... [070]" <070@...>
That's my point. That is why I don't like those fast turn around modes. On Oct 11, 2017, at 10:27 AM, "Jerry n9avy@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:
That's not in spirit & tradition of ham radio.
Jerry N9AVY
From: "Charles Odom ki4vmk@... [070]" <070@...>
With JT65, JT9 and FT8 the trend is to make a contact and log it. No one wants to have interaction or conversation. Just sayin' KI4VMK On Oct 11, 2017, at 9:35 AM, "mwbesemer@... [070]" < 070@...> wrote:
So, basically an all-mode, broadband kind of thing? No receiver necessary - just sniff out the Ozone.
Mike WM4B
On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] wrote:
Next new mode will be "digital spark gap". *:)) laughing
Jerry N9AVY ___________________________________
From: "Bill Garwood n4gbk@... [070]" <070@...> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 7:32 AM Subject: [070] 17 meters
Hi Folks,
Several of you have been trying 17 meter PSK31 recently. If you are working on the 17 meter award (or any other award), it would help to know when to head to the shack and try to give you a contact. I'm always trying to help others get their needed QSOs for whatever award they are pursuing. I'm not really into stopping what I'm doing to head to the shack to chit chat.
The problem with FT-8 "invading" your favorite frequency is a lot bigger than FT-8, the ARRL or whatever. Back in the good ol' days, ham experimenters were designing and building equipment and antennas. Some of that is still happening but a lot of experimenters are working with ham radio digital software. I look at my DXKeeper log and it has a drop-down list of something like 30 digital modes to select. In the past couple of years, this list has expanded to include JT-65, JT-9 and FT-8 and probably some more. The issue of how and where to fit in all of these digital modes into the radio spectrum has not been resolved. I am sure there are developers out there somewhere working on something new right now that will eventually be added to the list of digital modes. Maybe the next improved PSK31 or FT-8 is just around the corner and will cause more clutt er. I don't have the answer to the problem but I think it needs to come through the ITU as this is a global issue on the HF bands. Jamming other stations and causing intentional havoc on the bands because you do not like what is going on is not in the best interest of amateur radio.
Thanks to everyone for the fun we have and I hope to see many of you on the waterfall soon. I've got my Pumpkin station ready for this weekend. Now if these pesky thunderstorms will just go away.
73,
Bill N4GBK
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Re: 17 meters
Charles Odom <ki4vmk@...>
Jerry, your last statement is true. With ham radio there is something for everyone
On Oct 11, 2017, at 10:40 AM, "Jerry n9avy@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:
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Re: 17 meters
Seems to me that it's just another version of collecting Facebook Friends game. Log a bunch of people you don't know without knowing anything about them. Guess different strokes for different folks.
From: "Charles Odom ki4vmk@... [070]" <070@...> To: PODXS <070@...> Cc: PODXS <070@...> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 10:33 AM Subject: Re: [070] 17 meters That's my point. That is why I don't like those fast turn around modes.
On Oct 11, 2017, at 10:27 AM, "Jerry n9avy@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:
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Re: 17 meters
Plus working WAS in one day is fun.
From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 11:36 AM To: 070@... Subject: RE: [070] 17 meters
it’s the setup of those modes to pass data at fast speed,
not to have an hour conversation. that one thing I like about them.
don’t need to hear about someone prerecorded Macro of their life story every time I have a QSO
From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
That's not in spirit & tradition of ham radio.
Jerry N9AVY
From: "Charles Odom ki4vmk@... [0 70]" <070@...>
With JT65, JT9 and FT8 the trend is to make a contact and log it. No one wants to have interaction or conversation. Just sayin' KI4VMK On Oct 11, 2017, at 9:35 AM, "mwbesemer@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:
So, basically an all-mode, broadband kind of thing? No receiver necessary - just sniff out the Ozone.
Mike WM4B
On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] wrote:
Next new mode will be "digital spark gap". *:)) laughing ;
Jerry N9AVY ___________________________________
From: "Bill Garwood n4gbk@... [070]" <070@...> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 7:32 AM Subject: [070] 17 meters
Hi Folks,
Several of you have been trying 17 meter PSK31 recently. If you are working on the 17 meter award (or any other award), it would help to know when to head to the shack and try to give you a contact. I'm always tryi ng to help others get their needed QSOs for whatever award they are pursuing. I'm not really into stopping what I'm doing to head to the shack to chit chat.
The problem with FT-8 "invading" your favorite frequency is a lot bigger than FT-8, the ARRL or whatever. Back in the good ol' days, ham experimenters were designing and building equipment and antennas. Some of that is still happening but a lot of experimenters are working with ham radio digital software. I look at my DXKeeper log and it has a drop-down list of something like 30 digital modes to select. In the past couple of years, this list has expanded to include JT-65, JT-9 and FT-8 and probably some more. &nb sp; The issue of how and where to fit in all of these digital modes into the radio spectrum has not been resolved. I am sure there are developers out there somewhere working on something new right now that will eventually be added to the list of digital modes. Maybe the next improved PSK31 or FT-8 is just around the corner and will cause more clutter. I don't have the answer to the problem but I think it needs to come through the ITU as this is a global issue on the HF bands. Jamming other stations and causing intentional havoc on the bands because you do not like what is going on is not in the best interest of amateur radio.
Thanks to everyone for the fun we have and I h ope to see many of you on the waterfall soon. I've got my Pumpkin station ready for this weekend. Now if these pesky thunderstorms will just go away.
73,
Bill N4GBK
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Re: 17 meters
it’s the setup of those modes to pass data at fast speed,
not to have an hour conversation. that one thing I like about them.
don’t need to hear about someone prerecorded Macro of their life story every time I have a QSO
From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 11:27 AM To: 070@... Subject: Re: [070] 17 meters
That's not in spirit & tradition of ham radio.
Jerry N9AVY
From: "Charles Odom ki4vmk@... [0 70]" <070@...>
With JT65, JT9 and FT8 the trend is to make a contact and log it. No one wants to have interaction or conversation. Just sayin' KI4VMK On Oct 11, 2017, at 9:35 AM, "mwbesemer@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:
So, basically an all-mode, broadband kind of thing? No receiver necessary - just sniff out the Ozone.
Mike WM4B
On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] wrote:
Next new mode will be "digital spark gap". *:)) laughing ;
Jerry N9AVY ___________________________________
From: "Bill Garwood n4gbk@... [070]" <070@...> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 7:32 AM Subject: [070] 17 meters
Hi Folks,
Several of you have been trying 17 meter PSK31 recently. If you are working on the 17 meter award (or any other award), it would help to know when to head to the shack and try to give you a contact. I'm always tryi ng to help others get their needed QSOs for whatever award they are pursuing. I'm not really into stopping what I'm doing to head to the shack to chit chat.
The problem with FT-8 "invading" your favorite frequency is a lot bigger than FT-8, the ARRL or whatever. Back in the good ol' days, ham experimenters were designing and building equipment and antennas. Some of that is still happening but a lot of experimenters are working with ham radio digital software. I look at my DXKeeper log and it has a drop-down list of something like 30 digital modes to select. In the past couple of years, this list has expanded to include JT-65, JT-9 and FT-8 and probably some more. &nb sp; The issue of how and where to fit in all of these digital modes into the radio spectrum has not been resolved. I am sure there are developers out there somewhere working on something new right now that will eventually be added to the list of digital modes. Maybe the next improved PSK31 or FT-8 is just around the corner and will cause more clutter. I don't have the answer to the problem but I think it needs to come through the ITU as this is a global issue on the HF bands. Jamming other stations and causing intentional havoc on the bands because you do not like what is going on is not in the best interest of amateur radio.
Thanks to everyone for the fun we have and I h ope to see many of you on the waterfall soon. I've got my Pumpkin station ready for this weekend. Now if these pesky thunderstorms will just go away.
73,
Bill N4GBK
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Re: 17 meters
Charles Odom <ki4vmk@...>
That's my point. That is why I don't like those fast turn around modes.
On Oct 11, 2017, at 10:27 AM, "Jerry n9avy@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:
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Re: 17 meters
That's not in spirit & tradition of ham radio. Jerry N9AVY
From: "Charles Odom ki4vmk@... [070]" <070@...> To: PODXS <070@...> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [070] 17 meters With JT65, JT9 and FT8 the trend is to make a contact and log it. No one wants to have interaction or conversation. Just sayin'
KI4VMK
On Oct 11, 2017, at 9:35 AM, "mwbesemer@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:
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