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Re: Hustler 6BTV

Brian (N2MLP)
 

Do you mean I don’t have to cut my coax to a ¼ wave

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jerry N9AVY
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 7:08 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV

 

It was meant in somewhat of a jest in that verticals have no forward gain and side rejection.  Beams are the optimal choice when you have the room & height. The more elements the higher the gain...mine has about 12 db forward gain, but it should be nearer to 50 or 70 ft.

 

In the end we're all stuck with the antenna we already have. The vertical is a good general purpose antenna which sends signal in all directions unless pattern is skewed.  Beams are good, but better if a monoband at right height. Dipoles are okay , but better on lower bands and are easy to put up.

Not CB wise tales like cutting your coax to a certain length (which is an indication that SWR bridge is a piece of CB garbage).

 

 

 


From: Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV

 

So untrue  (CB wise tails)

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jerry N9AVY
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 6:37 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV

 

Okay, but early on in ham radio, I learned that "a vertical is an antenna that radiates equally poor in all directions" 

 

 

Jerry  n9avy

 


From: Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV

 

Have both the zero 5 and the GAP Titan

BOTH ARE GREAT ANTENNA

 

 

NEVER GOT THE Gap to tune correct on 15M

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Morris
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 5:19 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV

 

Never had the 6BTV but was going to get the Gap Titan (I think it was the Titan) but eventually decided on the Zero Five since it does not have any traps to mess with or foul up on me.

 

I have the Zero Five 27’ vertical and my SWR is:

80        1.0

40        1.0

30        1.0

20        1.0

17        1.3

15        1.3

12        1.2

10        1.0

 

I have 40 radials and length of all is 27’ — It was sooooo easy to set up and once I got the hole dug took me a whopping 30 minutes to put together and install in the ground.  Then it took 2 days to do the radials. I have a radial plate and a tilt mast in case of heavy winds but have never had to lower it , YET!!!


Dan Morris  KZ3T  070-1065

 

I live to live for Him!

 

 

 

 

On Jan 31, 2018, at 5:02 PM, Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@...> wrote:

 

Well Dick, I'm certainly jealous behind all that antenna farm!  Oh how I wish!

One thought - when you move the traps are you going for lowest SWR or X=0 (or as low as you can get it)?  I read somewhere that you should get rid of reactance (X)  to get resonance and let the SWR fall where it may.  Not sure what that means, but the X component is what I tried to get rid of and the SWR fell in line.  Don't know that that is right, but that is what I did.

I do notice from your readings that the lower bands have a fair amount of reactance (X value).  Reactance can be either capacitive or inductive.  There is a trick (I can't remember) that you can do with the MFJ 259b to determine which the X is.  Something about tuning up or down and watching which way the X goes.  Once you know, then you can figure out how to get rid of it.  At that point it would be back to the ARRL Antenna book for me!

Maybe someone else can jump in here and give us both some insight.

Rick

 


--
Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602

 

 

 


Re: monitoring 1807 (160m

Brian (N2MLP)
 

Now you have a summer project

 

N3CAU strong in PA

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Matthew King - AK4MK
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 7:04 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] monitoring 1807 (160m

 

Wish I could play 160 with you guys, but I have nothing in the air for 160.... I can't tune the 6BTV there with the old Versa Tuner II and make my radio happy.  

 

~sigh~

 

Y'all have fun with it!

 

73

 

Matt King

AK4MK - 070 #1708

PODXS 070 Club Executive Director

 

 

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On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 7:01 PM, Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...> wrote:

Nothing in PA

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of VA7GEM-1470 via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 6:57 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] monitoring 1807 (160m

 

Calling at +1500
Barry

 


Re: Hustler 6BTV

Jerry N9AVY
 

It was meant in somewhat of a jest in that verticals have no forward gain and side rejection.  Beams are the optimal choice when you have the room & height. The more elements the higher the gain...mine has about 12 db forward gain, but it should be nearer to 50 or 70 ft.

In the end we're all stuck with the antenna we already have. The vertical is a good general purpose antenna which sends signal in all directions unless pattern is skewed.  Beams are good, but better if a monoband at right height. Dipoles are okay , but better on lower bands and are easy to put up.
Not CB wise tales like cutting your coax to a certain length (which is an indication that SWR bridge is a piece of CB garbage).




From: Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV

So untrue  (CB wise tails)
 
From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jerry N9AVY
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 6:37 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV
 
Okay, but early on in ham radio, I learned that "a vertical is an antenna that radiates equally poor in all directions" 
 
 
Jerry  n9avy
 

From: Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV
 
Have both the zero 5 and the GAP Titan
BOTH ARE GREAT ANTENNA
 
 
NEVER GOT THE Gap to tune correct on 15M
 
From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Morris
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 5:19 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV
 
Never had the 6BTV but was going to get the Gap Titan (I think it was the Titan) but eventually decided on the Zero Five since it does not have any traps to mess with or foul up on me.
 
I have the Zero Five 27’ vertical and my SWR is:
80        1.0
40        1.0
30        1.0
20        1.0
17        1.3
15        1.3
12        1.2
10        1.0
 
I have 40 radials and length of all is 27’ — It was sooooo easy to set up and once I got the hole dug took me a whopping 30 minutes to put together and install in the ground.  Then it took 2 days to do the radials. I have a radial plate and a tilt mast in case of heavy winds but have never had to lower it , YET!!!

Dan Morris  KZ3T  070-1065
 
I live to live for Him!
 
 
 
 
On Jan 31, 2018, at 5:02 PM, Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@...> wrote:
 
Well Dick, I'm certainly jealous behind all that antenna farm!  Oh how I wish!
One thought - when you move the traps are you going for lowest SWR or X=0 (or as low as you can get it)?  I read somewhere that you should get rid of reactance (X)  to get resonance and let the SWR fall where it may.  Not sure what that means, but the X component is what I tried to get rid of and the SWR fell in line.  Don't know that that is right, but that is what I did.
I do notice from your readings that the lower bands have a fair amount of reactance (X value).  Reactance can be either capacitive or inductive.  There is a trick (I can't remember) that you can do with the MFJ 259b to determine which the X is.  Something about tuning up or down and watching which way the X goes.  Once you know, then you can figure out how to get rid of it.  At that point it would be back to the ARRL Antenna book for me!
Maybe someone else can jump in here and give us both some insight.
Rick
 

--
Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602
 
 



Re: monitoring 1807 (160m

Matthew King - AK4MK
 

Wish I could play 160 with you guys, but I have nothing in the air for 160.... I can't tune the 6BTV there with the old Versa Tuner II and make my radio happy.  

~sigh~

Y'all have fun with it!

73

Matt King
AK4MK - 070 #1708
PODXS 070 Club Executive Director


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On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 7:01 PM, Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...> wrote:

Nothing in PA

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of VA7GEM-1470 via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 6:57 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] monitoring 1807 (160m

 

Calling at +1500
Barry



Re: monitoring 1807 (160m

VA7GEM-1470 <boat.anchor@...>
 

Another hour till sunset
Barry


Re: monitoring 1807 (160m

Brian (N2MLP)
 

Nothing in PA

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of VA7GEM-1470 via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 6:57 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] monitoring 1807 (160m

 

Calling at +1500
Barry


Re: monitoring 1807 (160m

VA7GEM-1470 <boat.anchor@...>
 

Calling at +1500
Barry


monitoring 1807 (160m

Brian (N2MLP)
 

See if anything shows up

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

========================

 

 


Re: Hustler 6BTV

Brian (N2MLP)
 

So untrue  (CB wise tails)

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jerry N9AVY
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 6:37 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV

 

Okay, but early on in ham radio, I learned that "a vertical is an antenna that radiates equally poor in all directions" 

 

 

Jerry  n9avy

 


From: Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV

 

Have both the zero 5 and the GAP Titan

BOTH ARE GREAT ANTENNA

 

 

NEVER GOT THE Gap to tune correct on 15M

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Morris
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 5:19 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV

 

Never had the 6BTV but was going to get the Gap Titan (I think it was the Titan) but eventually decided on the Zero Five since it does not have any traps to mess with or foul up on me.

 

I have the Zero Five 27’ vertical and my SWR is:

80        1.0

40        1.0

30        1.0

20        1.0

17        1.3

15        1.3

12        1.2

10        1.0

 

I have 40 radials and length of all is 27’ — It was sooooo easy to set up and once I got the hole dug took me a whopping 30 minutes to put together and install in the ground.  Then it took 2 days to do the radials. I have a radial plate and a tilt mast in case of heavy winds but have never had to lower it , YET!!!


Dan Morris  KZ3T  070-1065

 

I live to live for Him!

 

 

 

 

On Jan 31, 2018, at 5:02 PM, Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@...> wrote:

 

Well Dick, I'm certainly jealous behind all that antenna farm!  Oh how I wish!

One thought - when you move the traps are you going for lowest SWR or X=0 (or as low as you can get it)?  I read somewhere that you should get rid of reactance (X)  to get resonance and let the SWR fall where it may.  Not sure what that means, but the X component is what I tried to get rid of and the SWR fell in line.  Don't know that that is right, but that is what I did.

I do notice from your readings that the lower bands have a fair amount of reactance (X value).  Reactance can be either capacitive or inductive.  There is a trick (I can't remember) that you can do with the MFJ 259b to determine which the X is.  Something about tuning up or down and watching which way the X goes.  Once you know, then you can figure out how to get rid of it.  At that point it would be back to the ARRL Antenna book for me!

Maybe someone else can jump in here and give us both some insight.

Rick

 


--
Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602

 

 


Re: Hustler 6BTV

Jerry N9AVY
 

Okay, but early on in ham radio, I learned that "a vertical is an antenna that radiates equally poor in all directions" 


Jerry  n9avy



From: Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV

Have both the zero 5 and the GAP Titan
BOTH ARE GREAT ANTENNA
 
 
NEVER GOT THE Gap to tune correct on 15M
 
From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Morris
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 5:19 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV
 
Never had the 6BTV but was going to get the Gap Titan (I think it was the Titan) but eventually decided on the Zero Five since it does not have any traps to mess with or foul up on me.
 
I have the Zero Five 27’ vertical and my SWR is:
80        1.0
40        1.0
30        1.0
20        1.0
17        1.3
15        1.3
12        1.2
10        1.0
 
I have 40 radials and length of all is 27’ — It was sooooo easy to set up and once I got the hole dug took me a whopping 30 minutes to put together and install in the ground.  Then it took 2 days to do the radials. I have a radial plate and a tilt mast in case of heavy winds but have never had to lower it , YET!!!

Dan Morris  KZ3T  070-1065
 
I live to live for Him!
 
 
 
 
On Jan 31, 2018, at 5:02 PM, Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@...> wrote:
 
Well Dick, I'm certainly jealous behind all that antenna farm!  Oh how I wish!
One thought - when you move the traps are you going for lowest SWR or X=0 (or as low as you can get it)?  I read somewhere that you should get rid of reactance (X)  to get resonance and let the SWR fall where it may.  Not sure what that means, but the X component is what I tried to get rid of and the SWR fell in line.  Don't know that that is right, but that is what I did.
I do notice from your readings that the lower bands have a fair amount of reactance (X value).  Reactance can be either capacitive or inductive.  There is a trick (I can't remember) that you can do with the MFJ 259b to determine which the X is.  Something about tuning up or down and watching which way the X goes.  Once you know, then you can figure out how to get rid of it.  At that point it would be back to the ARRL Antenna book for me!
Maybe someone else can jump in here and give us both some insight.
Rick
 

--
Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602
 



Re: Hustler 6BTV

Brian (N2MLP)
 

Have both the zero 5 and the GAP Titan

BOTH ARE GREAT ANTENNA

 

 

NEVER GOT THE Gap to tune correct on 15M

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Morris
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 5:19 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV

 

Never had the 6BTV but was going to get the Gap Titan (I think it was the Titan) but eventually decided on the Zero Five since it does not have any traps to mess with or foul up on me.

 

I have the Zero Five 27’ vertical and my SWR is:

80        1.0

40        1.0

30        1.0

20        1.0

17        1.3

15        1.3

12        1.2

10        1.0

 

I have 40 radials and length of all is 27’ — It was sooooo easy to set up and once I got the hole dug took me a whopping 30 minutes to put together and install in the ground.  Then it took 2 days to do the radials. I have a radial plate and a tilt mast in case of heavy winds but have never had to lower it , YET!!!


Dan Morris  KZ3T  070-1065

 

I live to live for Him!

 

 

 

 

On Jan 31, 2018, at 5:02 PM, Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@...> wrote:

 

Well Dick, I'm certainly jealous behind all that antenna farm!  Oh how I wish!

One thought - when you move the traps are you going for lowest SWR or X=0 (or as low as you can get it)?  I read somewhere that you should get rid of reactance (X)  to get resonance and let the SWR fall where it may.  Not sure what that means, but the X component is what I tried to get rid of and the SWR fell in line.  Don't know that that is right, but that is what I did.

I do notice from your readings that the lower bands have a fair amount of reactance (X value).  Reactance can be either capacitive or inductive.  There is a trick (I can't remember) that you can do with the MFJ 259b to determine which the X is.  Something about tuning up or down and watching which way the X goes.  Once you know, then you can figure out how to get rid of it.  At that point it would be back to the ARRL Antenna book for me!

Maybe someone else can jump in here and give us both some insight.

Rick

 


--
Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602

 


Now 160M was Hustler 6BTV

VA7GEM-1470 <boat.anchor@...>
 

Looks like East/Central are covered.
I will be on starting 00:01Z
1.807 is freq of choice??
Barry


Re: Hustler 6BTV

David, K9DWR
 

On Jan 31, 2018, at 09:47, Jerry N9AVY <n9avy@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

We all need to keep in mind that we all face different challenges in getting antennas installed; everything from hurricane resistance to stupid HOAs. Different areas of the U.S. have different propagation patterns than those on East Coast who can usually work Europe consistently while the West coast gets decent openings to Asia. It's a different game for many of us, but being smart, resourceful operators we face the challenges and make things work to our advantage as best as possible. That's what ham radio is about.
The main thing I live by is: "Enjoy the contacts you can make, rather than lament the ones you can’t.”

My setup is modest, but especially working digital I have been very successful making contacts. I may not be able to hit every existing station, but I know I have not hit all stations I’m capable of reaching yet, either. :-)



David, K9DWR
#1604 LONP #255
david@graniteweb.com


Re: Hustler 6BTV

Jim K5SP
 

Look for me this evening, between 0030 and 0230Z

Jim K5SP


On 1/31/2018 4:30 PM, Richard Rohrer wrote:

Hi Rick,

 

For several years when I lived in MD, we lived in a restricted community.  The HOA rules said no “ham radio transmitting antennas” were allowed.  I put a loop in the attic and tuned it with the AH-4 tuner, so it worked ok.   Also had a 2 mtr/432 dipole, which worked quite well and had a lot of fun working VHF/UHF contests and  ran ATV thru the ATV repeater in Baltimore. It was a three story house so the antennas were 30 ft off the ground.   The only RFI problem I had was killing the xyl’s mouse on her computer.  A wireless mouse fixed that.  After living in ham radio restricted community we decided that never again.  I know that finding a nice area that is not restricted can be very hard in some areas.   We decided when we moved to FL to look in some order communities that did not have restrictions and it has payed off for use.  We live in a nice quite area, but within 5 miles of all the shopping and restaurants you could think of.  Handy when I need to run to Home Depot for stuff. 

 

I may re-read the DX Engineering booklet for the antenna and try to tune out some of the reactance.  I know you can determine with 259B, I just need to find out how to do it, I know it is shown on the internet. 

 

The next time you are trying 160 let me know and I will try and make a contact.  We are heading for the Pacific Northwest in August so say tuned for more (hopefully rare grids).

 

73

Dick – KC3EF

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick - N7WE
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 5:02 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV

 

Well Dick, I'm certainly jealous behind all that antenna farm!  Oh how I wish!

One thought - when you move the traps are you going for lowest SWR or X=0 (or as low as you can get it)?  I read somewhere that you should get rid of reactance (X)  to get resonance and let the SWR fall where it may.  Not sure what that means, but the X component is what I tried to get rid of and the SWR fell in line.  Don't know that that is right, but that is what I did.

I do notice from your readings that the lower bands have a fair amount of reactance (X value).  Reactance can be either capacitive or inductive.  There is a trick (I can't remember) that you can do with the MFJ 259b to determine which the X is.  Something about tuning up or down and watching which way the X goes.  Once you know, then you can figure out how to get rid of it.  At that point it would be back to the ARRL Antenna book for me!

Maybe someone else can jump in here and give us both some insight.

Rick

 


--
Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602



--
Jim,  K5SP #483
Member Services Director


Re: Hustler 6BTV

Jerry N9AVY
 

"The HOA rules said no “ham radio transmitting antennas” were allowed."

Right there you could have sued them for discrimination in singling out a group.  Just as if they said "No Irish allowed", etc.  Had this explained a few years back at a Dayton forum by one of the ARRL lawyers.  Likewise, if you see any violations of HOA rules, you photograph them and document them and according to that lawyer (also a Ham), you have a good case of having HOA rules nullified or something like that. Sometimes it pays to go to forums.

Just sayin'

Jerry  n9avy


From: Richard Rohrer <kc3ef1@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 4:30 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV

Hi Rick,
 
For several years when I lived in MD, we lived in a restricted community.  The HOA rules said no “ham radio transmitting antennas” were allowed.  I put a loop in the attic and tuned it with the AH-4 tuner, so it worked ok.   Also had a 2 mtr/432 dipole, which worked quite well and had a lot of fun working VHF/UHF contests and  ran ATV thru the ATV repeater in Baltimore. It was a three story house so the antennas were 30 ft off the ground.   The only RFI problem I had was killing the xyl’s mouse on her computer.  A wireless mouse fixed that.  After living in ham radio restricted community we decided that never again.  I know that finding a nice area that is not restricted can be very hard in some areas.   We decided when we moved to FL to look in some order communities that did not have restrictions and it has payed off for use.  We live in a nice quite area, but within 5 miles of all the shopping and restaurants you could think of.  Handy when I need to run to Home Depot for stuff. 
 
I may re-read the DX Engineering booklet for the antenna and try to tune out some of the reactance.  I know you can determine with 259B, I just need to find out how to do it, I know it is shown on the internet. 
 
The next time you are trying 160 let me know and I will try and make a contact.  We are heading for the Pacific Northwest in August so say tuned for more (hopefully rare grids).
 
73
Dick – KC3EF
 
From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick - N7WE
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 5:02 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV
 
Well Dick, I'm certainly jealous behind all that antenna farm!  Oh how I wish!
One thought - when you move the traps are you going for lowest SWR or X=0 (or as low as you can get it)?  I read somewhere that you should get rid of reactance (X)  to get resonance and let the SWR fall where it may.  Not sure what that means, but the X component is what I tried to get rid of and the SWR fell in line.  Don't know that that is right, but that is what I did.
I do notice from your readings that the lower bands have a fair amount of reactance (X value).  Reactance can be either capacitive or inductive.  There is a trick (I can't remember) that you can do with the MFJ 259b to determine which the X is.  Something about tuning up or down and watching which way the X goes.  Once you know, then you can figure out how to get rid of it.  At that point it would be back to the ARRL Antenna book for me!
Maybe someone else can jump in here and give us both some insight.
Rick
 

--
Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602



Re: Hustler 6BTV

VA7GEM-1470 <boat.anchor@...>
 

I'd better go get some concrete mix or I'll be hauling it in the back of my son's Ford Focus.

Mike
WM4B

Mike

Many yrs ago I had a Mercedes diesel sedan. I was doing a small reno es needed about 10 bags of redi-mix concrete so went to get it with the car. On the way home the back end was a bit close to the ground es the local cops pulled me over. No citation issues but they told me they had just received a report of a stolen floor safe 30 minutes earlier. We both had a ood laugh.
Barry


Re: Hustler 6BTV

Richard Rohrer
 

Hi Rick,

 

For several years when I lived in MD, we lived in a restricted community.  The HOA rules said no “ham radio transmitting antennas” were allowed.  I put a loop in the attic and tuned it with the AH-4 tuner, so it worked ok.   Also had a 2 mtr/432 dipole, which worked quite well and had a lot of fun working VHF/UHF contests and  ran ATV thru the ATV repeater in Baltimore. It was a three story house so the antennas were 30 ft off the ground.   The only RFI problem I had was killing the xyl’s mouse on her computer.  A wireless mouse fixed that.  After living in ham radio restricted community we decided that never again.  I know that finding a nice area that is not restricted can be very hard in some areas.   We decided when we moved to FL to look in some order communities that did not have restrictions and it has payed off for use.  We live in a nice quite area, but within 5 miles of all the shopping and restaurants you could think of.  Handy when I need to run to Home Depot for stuff. 

 

I may re-read the DX Engineering booklet for the antenna and try to tune out some of the reactance.  I know you can determine with 259B, I just need to find out how to do it, I know it is shown on the internet. 

 

The next time you are trying 160 let me know and I will try and make a contact.  We are heading for the Pacific Northwest in August so say tuned for more (hopefully rare grids).

 

73

Dick – KC3EF

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick - N7WE
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 5:02 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV

 

Well Dick, I'm certainly jealous behind all that antenna farm!  Oh how I wish!

One thought - when you move the traps are you going for lowest SWR or X=0 (or as low as you can get it)?  I read somewhere that you should get rid of reactance (X)  to get resonance and let the SWR fall where it may.  Not sure what that means, but the X component is what I tried to get rid of and the SWR fell in line.  Don't know that that is right, but that is what I did.

I do notice from your readings that the lower bands have a fair amount of reactance (X value).  Reactance can be either capacitive or inductive.  There is a trick (I can't remember) that you can do with the MFJ 259b to determine which the X is.  Something about tuning up or down and watching which way the X goes.  Once you know, then you can figure out how to get rid of it.  At that point it would be back to the ARRL Antenna book for me!

Maybe someone else can jump in here and give us both some insight.

Rick

 


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Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602


Re: Hustler 6BTV

Dan Morris - KZ3T
 

Never had the 6BTV but was going to get the Gap Titan (I think it was the Titan) but eventually decided on the Zero Five since it does not have any traps to mess with or foul up on me.

I have the Zero Five 27’ vertical and my SWR is:
80 1.0
40 1.0
30 1.0
20 1.0
17 1.3
15 1.3
12 1.2
10 1.0

I have 40 radials and length of all is 27’ — It was sooooo easy to set up and once I got the hole dug took me a whopping 30 minutes to put together and install in the ground.  Then it took 2 days to do the radials. I have a radial plate and a tilt mast in case of heavy winds but have never had to lower it , YET!!!

Dan Morris  KZ3T  070-1065

I live to live for Him!




On Jan 31, 2018, at 5:02 PM, Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@...> wrote:

Well Dick, I'm certainly jealous behind all that antenna farm!  Oh how I wish!

One thought - when you move the traps are you going for lowest SWR or X=0 (or as low as you can get it)?  I read somewhere that you should get rid of reactance (X)  to get resonance and let the SWR fall where it may.  Not sure what that means, but the X component is what I tried to get rid of and the SWR fell in line.  Don't know that that is right, but that is what I did.

I do notice from your readings that the lower bands have a fair amount of reactance (X value).  Reactance can be either capacitive or inductive.  There is a trick (I can't remember) that you can do with the MFJ 259b to determine which the X is.  Something about tuning up or down and watching which way the X goes.  Once you know, then you can figure out how to get rid of it.  At that point it would be back to the ARRL Antenna book for me!

Maybe someone else can jump in here and give us both some insight.

Rick



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Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602


Re: Hustler 6BTV

Rick - N7WE
 

Well Dick, I'm certainly jealous behind all that antenna farm!  Oh how I wish!

One thought - when you move the traps are you going for lowest SWR or X=0 (or as low as you can get it)?  I read somewhere that you should get rid of reactance (X)  to get resonance and let the SWR fall where it may.  Not sure what that means, but the X component is what I tried to get rid of and the SWR fell in line.  Don't know that that is right, but that is what I did.

I do notice from your readings that the lower bands have a fair amount of reactance (X value).  Reactance can be either capacitive or inductive.  There is a trick (I can't remember) that you can do with the MFJ 259b to determine which the X is.  Something about tuning up or down and watching which way the X goes.  Once you know, then you can figure out how to get rid of it.  At that point it would be back to the ARRL Antenna book for me!

Maybe someone else can jump in here and give us both some insight.

Rick



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Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602


Re: 20m Frog ??

Jerry N9AVY
 

Green River !



From: Dan Morris <dbmorris315@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: [070Club] 20m Frog ??

Jerry - You know when you drink too much it is possible to see pink elephants.  So, what were you taking that you heard frogs??? lol

Dan Morris  KZ3T

I live to live for Him!



On Jan 31, 2018, at 12:38 PM, Joseph Molon <ljl2002@...> wrote:

Jerry,

You sure that you weren't hearing crickets?lol

Joe
KA1PPV  #1482


On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 11:19 AM, Jerry N9AVY wrote:

It's 1615 UTC  and I just heard a frog croaking !  "Ribbet, ribbet !"   ... Looks like them thar CBers have migrated to 20m !

Jerry  n9avy





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