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Re: FT-8 Burnout ?

Mike Besemer - WM4B #348 <mwbesemer@...>
 

And when you think about it, the RTTY guys are probably running 12 – 18 dB more power than the majority of us, which equates to 2 – 3 S-units (ish). A lot of times, they probably aren’t hearing us, but we’re sure hearing them!

At least with RTTY, I can switch modes and try to tell the gentleman at the other end that he just started CQing on top of me. Can’t do that with FT8 - which is kind of a problem IMHO. If there happens to be emergency traffic (or any traffic for that matter) going on and an FT8 station plops down there, how can you ask him to QSY (and tell him why)?

Mike
WM4B

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Morris
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 6:11 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] FT-8 Burnout ?

Agreed here Mike. I was having a PSK QSO on 40 meters yesterday 7.070 and there were a couple RTTY signals in the area but not where I was. Then, right on top of me came this RTTY calling for the contest. I tried to continue my QSO but could not and then the idiot told me to basically QSY off ‘his’ frequency. He had just too much power for me to stay where I was so I just turned the radio off!!!

Dan Morris KZ3T
dbmorris315@gmail.com

I live to live for Him!


On Feb 11, 2018, at 4:53 PM, Mike Besemer - WM4B #348 <mwbesemer@cox.net> wrote:

In the U.S. the following applies:

§97.1 Basis and purpose.

The rules and regulations in this part are designed to provide an amateur radio service having a fundamental purpose as expressed in the following principles:

(a) Recognition and enhancement of the value of the amateur service to the public as a voluntary noncommercial communication service, particularly with respect to providing emergency communications.

(b) Continuation and extension of the amateur's proven ability to contribute to the advancement of the radio art.

(c) Encouragement and improvement of the amateur service through rules which provide for advancing skills in both the communication and technical phases of the art.

(d) Expansion of the existing reservoir within the amateur radio service of trained operators, technicians, and electronics experts.

(e) Continuation and extension of the amateur's unique ability to enhance international goodwill.

With regard to FT8, I'd say that b), and e) apply although IMHO FT8 is of no real value as a communications mode, except for serving those in our own hobby. In other words, FT8 does meet with the 'advancement of radio art', but beyond that it is of no purpose. It cannot be used for passing any useful type of traffic outside that used by the ham community (e.g. signal report and grid square). That's not to say that FT8 could not morph into something useful, but right now it's just a means of generating maximum QSO's with basically zero effort. Bottom line is that FT8 is self-serving.

Honestly, if that's your cup of tea, then by all means have a ball. BUT... please don't trample those of us who prefer other modes by invading our portion of the band. I feel the same way about the RTTY'ers who decimated the PSK segment this weekend. Even in the heyday of PSK, I don't remember us venturing outside our small band segment; I wish others would observe that same courtesy.

Yes, I've tried it. Didn’t like it so I moved on... then went back to it to see if I'd missed something. Still didn’t like it; doubt I'll go back.

Maybe it's because I grew up in ham radio when you had to KNOW something to get on the air. RTTY meant you had a teleprinter in the shack. SSTV meant a monitor with a P7 phosphor tube. (Yes... I had both.) Still, I'm not anti FT8... I'm just anti FT8 invading the portion of the band I happen to like to operate in. But that's how society works now... if somebody like something, everyone else is forced to put up with it instead of those who like it enjoying it on their own.

'nuff said.

Mike
WM4B

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of David M (AJ4TF)
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 3:36 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] FT-8 Burnout ?

Ham radio is about experimentation and advancing the state of the art. If you don't want to operate FT-8 (or any other mode) then don't. But complaining about others who do? Step back and think about that. It's a hobby for pete's sake. de AJ4TF


Re: FT-8 Burnout ?

Jerry N9AVY
 

Contest operators !  Pffftt !



From: Dan Morris <dbmorris315@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] FT-8 Burnout ?

Agreed here Mike.  I was having a PSK QSO on 40 meters yesterday 7.070 and there were a couple RTTY signals in the area but not where I was.  Then, right on top of me came this RTTY calling for the contest. I tried to continue my QSO but could not and then the idiot told me to basically QSY off ‘his’ frequency.  He had just too much power for me to stay where I was so I just turned the radio off!!!

Dan Morris  KZ3T

I live to live for Him!



On Feb 11, 2018, at 4:53 PM, Mike Besemer - WM4B #348 <mwbesemer@...> wrote:

In the U.S. the following applies:

§97.1   Basis and purpose.

The rules and regulations in this part are designed to provide an amateur radio service having a fundamental purpose as expressed in the following principles:

(a) Recognition and enhancement of the value of the amateur service to the public as a voluntary noncommercial communication service, particularly with respect to providing emergency communications.

(b) Continuation and extension of the amateur's proven ability to contribute to the advancement of the radio art.

(c) Encouragement and improvement of the amateur service through rules which provide for advancing skills in both the communication and technical phases of the art.

(d) Expansion of the existing reservoir within the amateur radio service of trained operators, technicians, and electronics experts.

(e) Continuation and extension of the amateur's unique ability to enhance international goodwill.

With regard to FT8, I'd say that b), and e) apply although IMHO FT8 is of no real value as a communications mode, except for serving those in our own hobby.  In other words, FT8 does meet with the 'advancement of radio art', but beyond that it is of no purpose.  It cannot be used for passing any useful type of traffic outside that used by the ham community (e.g. signal report and grid square). That's not to say that FT8 could not morph into something useful, but right now it's just a means of generating maximum QSO's with basically zero effort.  Bottom line is that FT8 is self-serving.

Honestly, if that's your cup of tea, then by all means have a ball.  BUT... please don't trample those of us who prefer other modes by invading our portion of the band.  I feel the same way about the RTTY'ers who decimated the PSK segment this weekend.  Even in the heyday of PSK, I don't remember us venturing outside our small band segment; I wish others would observe that same courtesy.

Yes, I've tried it.  Didn’t like it so I moved on... then went back to it to see if I'd missed something.  Still didn’t like it; doubt I'll go back.

Maybe it's because I grew up in ham radio when you had to KNOW something to get on the air.  RTTY meant you had a teleprinter in the shack.  SSTV meant a monitor with a P7 phosphor tube.  (Yes... I had both.)  Still, I'm not anti FT8... I'm just anti FT8 invading the portion of the band I happen to like to operate in.  But that's how society works now... if somebody like something, everyone else is forced to put up with it instead of those who like it enjoying  it on their own.

'nuff said.

Mike
WM4B

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of David M (AJ4TF)
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 3:36 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] FT-8 Burnout ?

Ham radio is about experimentation and advancing the state of the art.  If you don't want to operate FT-8 (or any other mode) then don't.  But complaining about others who do?   Step back and think about that.  It's a hobby for pete's sake.    de AJ4TF   









Re: FT-8 Burnout ?

Dan Morris - KZ3T
 

Agreed here Mike.  I was having a PSK QSO on 40 meters yesterday 7.070 and there were a couple RTTY signals in the area but not where I was.  Then, right on top of me came this RTTY calling for the contest. I tried to continue my QSO but could not and then the idiot told me to basically QSY off ‘his’ frequency.  He had just too much power for me to stay where I was so I just turned the radio off!!!

Dan Morris  KZ3T

I live to live for Him!



On Feb 11, 2018, at 4:53 PM, Mike Besemer - WM4B #348 <mwbesemer@...> wrote:

In the U.S. the following applies:

§97.1   Basis and purpose.

The rules and regulations in this part are designed to provide an amateur radio service having a fundamental purpose as expressed in the following principles:

(a) Recognition and enhancement of the value of the amateur service to the public as a voluntary noncommercial communication service, particularly with respect to providing emergency communications.

(b) Continuation and extension of the amateur's proven ability to contribute to the advancement of the radio art.

(c) Encouragement and improvement of the amateur service through rules which provide for advancing skills in both the communication and technical phases of the art.

(d) Expansion of the existing reservoir within the amateur radio service of trained operators, technicians, and electronics experts.

(e) Continuation and extension of the amateur's unique ability to enhance international goodwill.

With regard to FT8, I'd say that b), and e) apply although IMHO FT8 is of no real value as a communications mode, except for serving those in our own hobby.  In other words, FT8 does meet with the 'advancement of radio art', but beyond that it is of no purpose.  It cannot be used for passing any useful type of traffic outside that used by the ham community (e.g. signal report and grid square). That's not to say that FT8 could not morph into something useful, but right now it's just a means of generating maximum QSO's with basically zero effort.  Bottom line is that FT8 is self-serving.

Honestly, if that's your cup of tea, then by all means have a ball.  BUT... please don't trample those of us who prefer other modes by invading our portion of the band.  I feel the same way about the RTTY'ers who decimated the PSK segment this weekend.  Even in the heyday of PSK, I don't remember us venturing outside our small band segment; I wish others would observe that same courtesy.

Yes, I've tried it.  Didn’t like it so I moved on... then went back to it to see if I'd missed something.  Still didn’t like it; doubt I'll go back.

Maybe it's because I grew up in ham radio when you had to KNOW something to get on the air.  RTTY meant you had a teleprinter in the shack.  SSTV meant a monitor with a P7 phosphor tube.  (Yes... I had both.)  Still, I'm not anti FT8... I'm just anti FT8 invading the portion of the band I happen to like to operate in.  But that's how society works now... if somebody like something, everyone else is forced to put up with it instead of those who like it enjoying  it on their own.

'nuff said.

Mike
WM4B

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of David M (AJ4TF)
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 3:36 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] FT-8 Burnout ?

Ham radio is about experimentation and advancing the state of the art.  If you don't want to operate FT-8 (or any other mode) then don't.  But complaining about others who do?   Step back and think about that.  It's a hobby for pete's sake.    de AJ4TF   







Re: FT-8 Burnout ?

Jerry N9AVY
 

Mike:

Absolutely correct.  It's about disregard for other modes.  When something else comes along all those FT-8 aficionados will jump on it with total disregard for others.


Jerry n9avy



From: Mike Besemer - WM4B #348 <mwbesemer@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] FT-8 Burnout ?

In the U.S. the following applies:

§97.1  Basis and purpose.

The rules and regulations in this part are designed to provide an amateur radio service having a fundamental purpose as expressed in the following principles:

(a) Recognition and enhancement of the value of the amateur service to the public as a voluntary noncommercial communication service, particularly with respect to providing emergency communications.

(b) Continuation and extension of the amateur's proven ability to contribute to the advancement of the radio art.

(c) Encouragement and improvement of the amateur service through rules which provide for advancing skills in both the communication and technical phases of the art.

(d) Expansion of the existing reservoir within the amateur radio service of trained operators, technicians, and electronics experts.

(e) Continuation and extension of the amateur's unique ability to enhance international goodwill.

With regard to FT8, I'd say that b), and e) apply although IMHO FT8 is of no real value as a communications mode, except for serving those in our own hobby.  In other words, FT8 does meet with the 'advancement of radio art', but beyond that it is of no purpose.  It cannot be used for passing any useful type of traffic outside that used by the ham community (e.g. signal report and grid square). That's not to say that FT8 could not morph into something useful, but right now it's just a means of generating maximum QSO's with basically zero effort.  Bottom line is that FT8 is self-serving.

Honestly, if that's your cup of tea, then by all means have a ball.  BUT... please don't trample those of us who prefer other modes by invading our portion of the band.  I feel the same way about the RTTY'ers who decimated the PSK segment this weekend.  Even in the heyday of PSK, I don't remember us venturing outside our small band segment; I wish others would observe that same courtesy.

Yes, I've tried it.  Didn’t like it so I moved on... then went back to it to see if I'd missed something.  Still didn’t like it; doubt I'll go back.

Maybe it's because I grew up in ham radio when you had to KNOW something to get on the air.  RTTY meant you had a teleprinter in the shack.  SSTV meant a monitor with a P7 phosphor tube.  (Yes... I had both.)  Still, I'm not anti FT8... I'm just anti FT8 invading the portion of the band I happen to like to operate in.  But that's how society works now... if somebody like something, everyone else is forced to put up with it instead of those who like it enjoying  it on their own.

'nuff said.

Mike
WM4B

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of David M (AJ4TF)
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] FT-8 Burnout ?

Ham radio is about experimentation and advancing the state of the art.  If you don't want to operate FT-8 (or any other mode) then don't.  But complaining about others who do?  Step back and think about that.  It's a hobby for pete's sake.    de AJ4TF 







Re: FT-8 Burnout ?

Jerry N9AVY
 

The problem started when the 17 m frequency was arbitrarily picked as 18.100 which was a PSK31 frequency. Overnight it was flooded with FT-8 signals. PSK31 has been driven off that frequency and I have heard maybe 1 signal since.  FT-8 has also claimed frequencies for other digital modes and has created some hard feelings among other groups.

Perhaps there will be a decline in FT-8 activity after the ARRL Grids contest is over in 2019 ?  But the addition of the DXpedition mode for FT-8 may have unknowingly tossed a monkey wrench into this, because the knuckleheads will probably start using the DXpedition mode for regular contacts which may be problematic.

I just don't see anything positive in this FT-8 mode. 

jerry



From: David M (AJ4TF) <aj4tf@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 3:47 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] FT-8 Burnout ?

I was referring more to the complaining that happens here, and in other similar groups.   You don't like FT-8?  Fine, that's your right, don't use it.  But don't complain about those that choose to experiment with new modes.   It is experimentation that keeps new people coming into the hobby, not "I wish all of these newfangled things would just go away, why can't it be like the old days?"

AJ4TF is QRT on this topic



Re: FT-8 Burnout ?

Mike Besemer - WM4B #348 <mwbesemer@...>
 

In the U.S. the following applies:

§97.1 Basis and purpose.

The rules and regulations in this part are designed to provide an amateur radio service having a fundamental purpose as expressed in the following principles:

(a) Recognition and enhancement of the value of the amateur service to the public as a voluntary noncommercial communication service, particularly with respect to providing emergency communications.

(b) Continuation and extension of the amateur's proven ability to contribute to the advancement of the radio art.

(c) Encouragement and improvement of the amateur service through rules which provide for advancing skills in both the communication and technical phases of the art.

(d) Expansion of the existing reservoir within the amateur radio service of trained operators, technicians, and electronics experts.

(e) Continuation and extension of the amateur's unique ability to enhance international goodwill.

With regard to FT8, I'd say that b), and e) apply although IMHO FT8 is of no real value as a communications mode, except for serving those in our own hobby. In other words, FT8 does meet with the 'advancement of radio art', but beyond that it is of no purpose. It cannot be used for passing any useful type of traffic outside that used by the ham community (e.g. signal report and grid square). That's not to say that FT8 could not morph into something useful, but right now it's just a means of generating maximum QSO's with basically zero effort. Bottom line is that FT8 is self-serving.

Honestly, if that's your cup of tea, then by all means have a ball. BUT... please don't trample those of us who prefer other modes by invading our portion of the band. I feel the same way about the RTTY'ers who decimated the PSK segment this weekend. Even in the heyday of PSK, I don't remember us venturing outside our small band segment; I wish others would observe that same courtesy.

Yes, I've tried it. Didn’t like it so I moved on... then went back to it to see if I'd missed something. Still didn’t like it; doubt I'll go back.

Maybe it's because I grew up in ham radio when you had to KNOW something to get on the air. RTTY meant you had a teleprinter in the shack. SSTV meant a monitor with a P7 phosphor tube. (Yes... I had both.) Still, I'm not anti FT8... I'm just anti FT8 invading the portion of the band I happen to like to operate in. But that's how society works now... if somebody like something, everyone else is forced to put up with it instead of those who like it enjoying it on their own.

'nuff said.

Mike
WM4B

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of David M (AJ4TF)
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 3:36 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] FT-8 Burnout ?

Ham radio is about experimentation and advancing the state of the art. If you don't want to operate FT-8 (or any other mode) then don't. But complaining about others who do? Step back and think about that. It's a hobby for pete's sake. de AJ4TF


Re: FT-8 Burnout ?

Mike Besemer - WM4B #348 <mwbesemer@...>
 

Nobody would care if FT8 didn’t constantly invade other segments. I think THAT is the point.

Mike
WM4B

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of David M (AJ4TF)
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 4:47 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] FT-8 Burnout ?

I was referring more to the complaining that happens here, and in other similar groups. You don't like FT-8? Fine, that's your right, don't use it. But don't complain about those that choose to experiment with new modes. It is experimentation that keeps new people coming into the hobby, not "I wish all of these newfangled things would just go away, why can't it be like the old days?"

AJ4TF is QRT on this topic


Re: FT-8 Burnout ?

David M (AJ4TF)
 

I was referring more to the complaining that happens here, and in other similar groups.   You don't like FT-8?  Fine, that's your right, don't use it.  But don't complain about those that choose to experiment with new modes.   It is experimentation that keeps new people coming into the hobby, not "I wish all of these newfangled things would just go away, why can't it be like the old days?"

AJ4TF is QRT on this topic


Re: FT-8 Burnout ?

Jerry N9AVY
 

Right... BUT that article was written tongue in cheek with the idea to get FT-8 operators to try Olivia.

Operating endless FT-8 contacts is NOT experimenting.

Jerry  n9avy



From: David M (AJ4TF) <aj4tf@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] FT-8 Burnout ?

Ham radio is about experimentation and advancing the state of the art.  If you don't want to operate FT-8 (or any other mode) then don't.  But complaining about others who do?   Step back and think about that.  It's a hobby for pete's sake.    de AJ4TF  



Re: FT-8 Burnout ?

David M (AJ4TF)
 

Ham radio is about experimentation and advancing the state of the art.  If you don't want to operate FT-8 (or any other mode) then don't.  But complaining about others who do?   Step back and think about that.  It's a hobby for pete's sake.    de AJ4TF  


Re: FT-8 Burnout ?

Charles Odom, KI4VMK # 2542
 

Just saw a post on the Fldigi group a guy said he was fed up with FT8, he was coming back to the chat mode.

Charles, KI4VMK
# 2542

On Feb 11, 2018, at 2:21 PM, "Brian (N2MLP)" <n2mlp@...> wrote:

Interesting

 

I think like to hide behind a computer and stir the pot

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jerry N9AVY
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 3:02 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] FT-8 Burnout ?

 

http://www.eham.net/articles/40433

 


From: Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] FT-8 Burnout ?

 

Is there  a link to it

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer - WM4B #348
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 2:29 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] FT-8 Burnout ?

 

Just a cross section of society...   and society seems full of them.

 

Mike

WM4B

On Feb 11, 2018 1:13 PM, Martin Tuip <ajax@...> wrote:

And the comments on the article confirm once again that a lot of ham operators are plain a holes.

Martin

kg7hax

 

On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 10:03 AM -0800, "Jerry N9AVY" <n9avy@...> wrote:

This is an article on eham.net about those who are tiring of FT-8 switching to Olivia. Nice start. Maybe a trend ?

 

Jerry n9avy

 


Re: FT-8 Burnout ?

Brian (N2MLP)
 

Interesting

 

I think like to hide behind a computer and stir the pot

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jerry N9AVY
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 3:02 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] FT-8 Burnout ?

 

http://www.eham.net/articles/40433

 


From: Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] FT-8 Burnout ?

 

Is there  a link to it

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer - WM4B #348
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 2:29 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] FT-8 Burnout ?

 

Just a cross section of society...   and society seems full of them.

 

Mike

WM4B

On Feb 11, 2018 1:13 PM, Martin Tuip <ajax@...> wrote:

And the comments on the article confirm once again that a lot of ham operators are plain a holes.

Martin

kg7hax

 

On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 10:03 AM -0800, "Jerry N9AVY" <n9avy@...> wrote:

This is an article on eham.net about those who are tiring of FT-8 switching to Olivia. Nice start. Maybe a trend ?

 

Jerry n9avy

 


Re: FT-8 Burnout ?

Jerry N9AVY
 


From: Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] FT-8 Burnout ?

Is there  a link to it
 
From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer - WM4B #348
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 2:29 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] FT-8 Burnout ?
 
Just a cross section of society...   and society seems full of them.
 
Mike
WM4B
On Feb 11, 2018 1:13 PM, Martin Tuip <ajax@...> wrote:
And the comments on the article confirm once again that a lot of ham operators are plain a holes.

Martin
kg7hax


On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 10:03 AM -0800, "Jerry N9AVY" <n9avy@...> wrote:
This is an article on eham.net about those who are tiring of FT-8 switching to Olivia. Nice start. Maybe a trend ?
 
Jerry n9avy



Re: FT-8 Burnout ?

Brian (N2MLP)
 

Is there  a link to it

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer - WM4B #348
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 2:29 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] FT-8 Burnout ?

 

Just a cross section of society...   and society seems full of them.

 

Mike

WM4B

On Feb 11, 2018 1:13 PM, Martin Tuip <ajax@...> wrote:

And the comments on the article confirm once again that a lot of ham operators are plain a holes.

Martin

kg7hax



On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 10:03 AM -0800, "Jerry N9AVY" <n9avy@...> wrote:

This is an article on eham.net about those who are tiring of FT-8 switching to Olivia. Nice start. Maybe a trend ?

 

Jerry n9avy


Re: FT-8 Burnout ?

Mike Besemer - WM4B #348 <mwbesemer@...>
 

Just a cross section of society...   and society seems full of them.

Mike
WM4B

On Feb 11, 2018 1:13 PM, Martin Tuip <ajax@...> wrote:
And the comments on the article confirm once again that a lot of ham operators are plain a holes.


Martin
kg7hax



On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 10:03 AM -0800, "Jerry N9AVY" <n9avy@...> wrote:

This is an article on eham.net about those who are tiring of FT-8 switching to Olivia. Nice start. Maybe a trend ?

Jerry n9avy


Re: FT-8 Burnout ?

Brian (N2MLP)
 

Why do you want to see PSKREPORTER go away?

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer - WM4B #348
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 1:14 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] FT-8 Burnout ?

 

I also saw a post in the FT8 group last week that at one point FT8 was showing over 1 million hits per hour on psk reporter.

 

Love to see it go away.

 

Mike

WM4B

On Feb 11, 2018 1:03 PM, Jerry N9AVY <n9avy@...> wrote:

This is an article on eham.net about those who are tiring of FT-8 switching to Olivia. Nice start. Maybe a trend ?

 

Jerry n9avy


Re: FT-8 Burnout ?

Mike Besemer - WM4B #348 <mwbesemer@...>
 

I also saw a post in the FT8 group last week that at one point FT8 was showing over 1 million hits per hour on psk reporter.

Love to see it go away.

Mike
WM4B

On Feb 11, 2018 1:03 PM, Jerry N9AVY <n9avy@...> wrote:
This is an article on eham.net about those who are tiring of FT-8 switching to Olivia. Nice start. Maybe a trend ?

Jerry n9avy


Re: FT-8 Burnout ?

Martin Tuip
 

And the comments on the article confirm once again that a lot of ham operators are plain a holes.


Martin
kg7hax



On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 10:03 AM -0800, "Jerry N9AVY" <n9avy@...> wrote:

This is an article on eham.net about those who are tiring of FT-8 switching to Olivia.  Nice start. Maybe a trend ?

Jerry  n9avy


Re: FT-8 Burnout ?

Charles Odom, KI4VMK # 2542
 

I have worked several people lately that are leaving FT8 and coming back to PSK31 and Olivia.

Charles, KI4VMK
# 2542

On Feb 11, 2018, at 12:03 PM, Jerry N9AVY <n9avy@...> wrote:
This is an article on eham.net about those who are tiring of FT-8 switching to Olivia.  Nice start. Maybe a trend ?

Jerry  n9avy


FT-8 Burnout ?

Jerry N9AVY
 

This is an article on eham.net about those who are tiring of FT-8 switching to Olivia.  Nice start. Maybe a trend ?

Jerry  n9avy

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