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Re: Seeking antenna suggestions

Paula K7PAX #1739
 

So my IT-100 tuner would suffice to work 15m on a 40m hamstick . . .

 

Paula

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian (N2MLP)
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2019 14:37
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Seeking antenna suggestions

 

40/15 work as a dual band

 

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         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

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From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Paula K7PAX #1739 via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2019 5:34 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: [070Club] Seeking antenna suggestions

 

Hi group! I am going to Lake Havasu City for a month and want to take my IC7000 with me. I do not have a portable antenna setup to use with it.

 

I was looking at the MFJ Octopus kit which gives you the hub and a set of 4 pairs of hamsticks. I would buy a tripod and pushup mast for it.  Anyone ever used one or anything like it?

 

One of the questions I have is “which four pairs of hamsticks should I choose?” I am asking this because I know what bands I want to work, but I have read where sometimes one set can tune up on more than one band – 40/20 meters I think. I was thinking I want to work 15, 20, and 40. I also want VHF, so I could either choose a VHF pair, or I could mount my VHF vertical on top, and choose another HF pair, say 10 or 80 meters to fill out the octopus.

 

I would love to hear everyone chime in and give me their ideas. I am leaving in a week, so I either have to move fast and get something ordered, or just have it shipped to my destination in AZ.

 

What would you guys do? I’ve never operated portable before. I know a lot of you have.

 

Paula K7PAX 1739


Re: Seeking antenna suggestions

Brian (N2MLP)
 

40/15 work as a dual band

 

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         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

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From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Paula K7PAX #1739 via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2019 5:34 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: [070Club] Seeking antenna suggestions

 

Hi group! I am going to Lake Havasu City for a month and want to take my IC7000 with me. I do not have a portable antenna setup to use with it.

 

I was looking at the MFJ Octopus kit which gives you the hub and a set of 4 pairs of hamsticks. I would buy a tripod and pushup mast for it.  Anyone ever used one or anything like it?

 

One of the questions I have is “which four pairs of hamsticks should I choose?” I am asking this because I know what bands I want to work, but I have read where sometimes one set can tune up on more than one band – 40/20 meters I think. I was thinking I want to work 15, 20, and 40. I also want VHF, so I could either choose a VHF pair, or I could mount my VHF vertical on top, and choose another HF pair, say 10 or 80 meters to fill out the octopus.

 

I would love to hear everyone chime in and give me their ideas. I am leaving in a week, so I either have to move fast and get something ordered, or just have it shipped to my destination in AZ.

 

What would you guys do? I’ve never operated portable before. I know a lot of you have.

 

Paula K7PAX 1739


Seeking antenna suggestions

Paula K7PAX #1739
 

Hi group! I am going to Lake Havasu City for a month and want to take my IC7000 with me. I do not have a portable antenna setup to use with it.

 

I was looking at the MFJ Octopus kit which gives you the hub and a set of 4 pairs of hamsticks. I would buy a tripod and pushup mast for it.  Anyone ever used one or anything like it?

 

One of the questions I have is “which four pairs of hamsticks should I choose?” I am asking this because I know what bands I want to work, but I have read where sometimes one set can tune up on more than one band – 40/20 meters I think. I was thinking I want to work 15, 20, and 40. I also want VHF, so I could either choose a VHF pair, or I could mount my VHF vertical on top, and choose another HF pair, say 10 or 80 meters to fill out the octopus.

 

I would love to hear everyone chime in and give me their ideas. I am leaving in a week, so I either have to move fast and get something ordered, or just have it shipped to my destination in AZ.

 

What would you guys do? I’ve never operated portable before. I know a lot of you have.

 

Paula K7PAX 1739


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Re: Mobile or Portable Grids

VA7GEM -1470 <boat.anchor@...>
 

Steve
Maybe to early to retire the MOTOG except it will not send
or recieve photos and the camera is really bad.
TVM
Barry


On Sun, Jan 20, 2019 at 11:07 AM, Stephen Melachrinos wrote:
Barry -
 
Glad I could help. And I just did what I think you did--I pulled out my old Moto G (1st edition) and loaded that app. I had retired the Moto G about ten months ago--it's off the cellular network, but it still comes up on WiFi when I want to. And the app works, even under Android 5.1 (mid-way in the Lollipop series.)
 
Steve


-----Original Message-----
From: VA7GEM -1470 via Groups.Io <boat.anchor@...>
To: 070Club <070Club@groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Jan 20, 2019 1:30 pm
Subject: Re: [070Club] Mobile or Portable Grids

Amazing what happens when you compound mental agility by the quantity
of smart folks here.
Steve - You have found a simple solution that even works with my old
not-so-smart phone.
TVM
Barry


On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 01:59 PM, Stephen Melachrinos wrote:
 
 
 
Of course, your phone still has to have its GPS function enabled. I have an Android phone, and I know location services are still active when in airplane mode. I'm not sure about iPhones, but you might have to do something special.
 
I went to the Google Play Store and downloaded the first Maidenhead grid application I found. It's called Grid Square Locator and it's written by Boris, US1PM. (It actually has very good reviews, rated 4.8 out of 5.) Then I put my phone in airplane mode (to simulate a lack of any external connections) and went driving around. 
Steve
W3HF
 
 


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Rick - N7WE
 

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Re: Mobile or Portable Grids

Stephen Melachrinos
 

Barry -

Glad I could help. And I just did what I think you did--I pulled out my old Moto G (1st edition) and loaded that app. I had retired the Moto G about ten months ago--it's off the cellular network, but it still comes up on WiFi when I want to. And the app works, even under Android 5.1 (mid-way in the Lollipop series.)

Steve


-----Original Message-----
From: VA7GEM -1470 via Groups.Io <boat.anchor@...>
To: 070Club <070Club@groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Jan 20, 2019 1:30 pm
Subject: Re: [070Club] Mobile or Portable Grids

Amazing what happens when you compound mental agility by the quantity
of smart folks here.
Steve - You have found a simple solution that even works with my old
not-so-smart phone.
TVM
Barry


On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 01:59 PM, Stephen Melachrinos wrote:
 
Of course, your phone still has to have its GPS function enabled. I have an Android phone, and I know location services are still active when in airplane mode. I'm not sure about iPhones, but you might have to do something special.
 
I went to the Google Play Store and downloaded the first Maidenhead grid application I found. It's called Grid Square Locator and it's written by Boris, US1PM. (It actually has very good reviews, rated 4.8 out of 5.) Then I put my phone in airplane mode (to simulate a lack of any external connections) and went driving around. 
Steve
W3HF
 
 


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Re: Mobile or Portable Grids

VA7GEM -1470 <boat.anchor@...>
 

Amazing what happens when you compound mental agility by the quantity
of smart folks here.
Steve - You have found a simple solution that even works with my old
not-so-smart phone.
TVM
Barry


On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 01:59 PM, Stephen Melachrinos wrote:
 
Of course, your phone still has to have its GPS function enabled. I have an Android phone, and I know location services are still active when in airplane mode. I'm not sure about iPhones, but you might have to do something special.
 
I went to the Google Play Store and downloaded the first Maidenhead grid application I found. It's called Grid Square Locator and it's written by Boris, US1PM. (It actually has very good reviews, rated 4.8 out of 5.) Then I put my phone in airplane mode (to simulate a lack of any external connections) and went driving around. 
Steve
W3HF
 
 


Re: Mobile or Portable Grids

VA7GEM -1470 <boat.anchor@...>
 

Paul
Maybe it is time to break down and buy a new phone and retire the MotoG.
cheers
Barry


On Sat, Jan 19, 2019 at 01:33 PM, Paul Butzi (W7PFB) wrote:
Just to be clear, the apps on my iphone will give a maidenhead grid location even when I do not have cell coverage.  As long as the phone can get a GPS lock it will give me a location.

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!


Re: Mobile or Portable Grids

Richard Rohrer
 

Lots of good information from this discussion.  The only problem I have had is that the app I use on my Android draws the map and shows your position on it.  If I am some place where I don't have coverage I don't get the map.  Since I use the map a lot to determine how to proceed to grids or areas that someone needs a contact from, that is a problem if I don't have coverage and can then relate to road map to direct pilot, the xyl,  to the right location.  The link to the calculations to determine grid from lat & long is helpful.  

73
Dick - KC3EF


Re: Mobile or Portable Grids

Stephen Melachrinos
 

Paul -

That's precisely the approach I was going to take. Excel makes the math easy (at least for me), and each of those steps would result in one character. Then it's a simple concatenate.

Steve
W3HF


-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Butzi (W7PFB) <w7pfb@...>
To: 070Club <070Club@groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Jan 19, 2019 6:54 pm
Subject: Re: [070Club] Mobile or Portable Grids

For those that are interested, this thread:

gives a fairly concise description of how to convert from latitude/longitude to Maidenhead Grid.  It appears to be correct to me but I’ve not examined it closely.

Be aware that the datum for Maidenhead Grid is WGS84, so if you are using a GPS set to some other datum (e.g. NAD27) then you’ll get wrong answers when you’re close to a grid boundary!


-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

On Jan 19, 2019, at 2:02 PM, Stephen Melachrinos <melachri@...> wrote:

Hey, hold on a second, folks. Let's not make this harder than it has to be.

Yes, smartphones are amazing, and mobile connections to the Internet are wonderful. But not EVERYTHING you need to do requires an Internet connection. And calculating a grid square from Lat/Lon coordinates is extremely simple. (I'm not a programmer, but I'll bet I could write a set of equations in Excel in less than half an hour to do a calculation that would be good anywhere in the world.) So I went to prove that I could find an app that would calculate a grid square without using the Internet.

Of course, your phone still has to have its GPS function enabled. I have an Android phone, and I know location services are still active when in airplane mode. I'm not sure about iPhones, but you might have to do something special.

I went to the Google Play Store and downloaded the first Maidenhead grid application I found. It's called Grid Square Locator and it's written by Boris, US1PM. (It actually has very good reviews, rated 4.8 out of 5.) Then I put my phone in airplane mode (to simulate a lack of any external connections) and went driving around. 

My home is in FN20ge. By the time I got to the pharmacy (my destination), I had watched the app tell me I'd moved to FN20gf, and then FN20ff. Then I headed back, taking a longer route that took me back into FN20ge, then FN20he, then FN20hd before coming back to FN20ge.

So you really don't need anything special other than a smart phone and an app that does the calculations onboard. (I'd actually be surprised if any app really used server-side calculations for something this easy.) The only hiccup might be an app that won't run unless it can show you advertisements, and those will require an Internet connection. So if you run into that, find another app.

Steve
W3HF




Re: Mobile or Portable Grids

Paul Butzi (W7PFB)
 

For those that are interested, this thread:

gives a fairly concise description of how to convert from latitude/longitude to Maidenhead Grid.  It appears to be correct to me but I’ve not examined it closely.

Be aware that the datum for Maidenhead Grid is WGS84, so if you are using a GPS set to some other datum (e.g. NAD27) then you’ll get wrong answers when you’re close to a grid boundary!


-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

On Jan 19, 2019, at 2:02 PM, Stephen Melachrinos <melachri@...> wrote:

Hey, hold on a second, folks. Let's not make this harder than it has to be.

Yes, smartphones are amazing, and mobile connections to the Internet are wonderful. But not EVERYTHING you need to do requires an Internet connection. And calculating a grid square from Lat/Lon coordinates is extremely simple. (I'm not a programmer, but I'll bet I could write a set of equations in Excel in less than half an hour to do a calculation that would be good anywhere in the world.) So I went to prove that I could find an app that would calculate a grid square without using the Internet.

Of course, your phone still has to have its GPS function enabled. I have an Android phone, and I know location services are still active when in airplane mode. I'm not sure about iPhones, but you might have to do something special.

I went to the Google Play Store and downloaded the first Maidenhead grid application I found. It's called Grid Square Locator and it's written by Boris, US1PM. (It actually has very good reviews, rated 4.8 out of 5.) Then I put my phone in airplane mode (to simulate a lack of any external connections) and went driving around. 

My home is in FN20ge. By the time I got to the pharmacy (my destination), I had watched the app tell me I'd moved to FN20gf, and then FN20ff. Then I headed back, taking a longer route that took me back into FN20ge, then FN20he, then FN20hd before coming back to FN20ge.

So you really don't need anything special other than a smart phone and an app that does the calculations onboard. (I'd actually be surprised if any app really used server-side calculations for something this easy.) The only hiccup might be an app that won't run unless it can show you advertisements, and those will require an Internet connection. So if you run into that, find another app.

Steve
W3HF




Re: Mobile or Portable Grids

Stephen Melachrinos
 

Hey, hold on a second, folks. Let's not make this harder than it has to be.

Yes, smartphones are amazing, and mobile connections to the Internet are wonderful. But not EVERYTHING you need to do requires an Internet connection. And calculating a grid square from Lat/Lon coordinates is extremely simple. (I'm not a programmer, but I'll bet I could write a set of equations in Excel in less than half an hour to do a calculation that would be good anywhere in the world.) So I went to prove that I could find an app that would calculate a grid square without using the Internet.

Of course, your phone still has to have its GPS function enabled. I have an Android phone, and I know location services are still active when in airplane mode. I'm not sure about iPhones, but you might have to do something special.

I went to the Google Play Store and downloaded the first Maidenhead grid application I found. It's called Grid Square Locator and it's written by Boris, US1PM. (It actually has very good reviews, rated 4.8 out of 5.) Then I put my phone in airplane mode (to simulate a lack of any external connections) and went driving around. 

My home is in FN20ge. By the time I got to the pharmacy (my destination), I had watched the app tell me I'd moved to FN20gf, and then FN20ff. Then I headed back, taking a longer route that took me back into FN20ge, then FN20he, then FN20hd before coming back to FN20ge.

So you really don't need anything special other than a smart phone and an app that does the calculations onboard. (I'd actually be surprised if any app really used server-side calculations for something this easy.) The only hiccup might be an app that won't run unless it can show you advertisements, and those will require an Internet connection. So if you run into that, find another app.

Steve
W3HF



Re: Mobile or Portable Grids

Stephen Melachrinos
 

Paul -

Sorry, I didn't see your reply before I sent mine.

Steve
W3HF


-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Butzi (W7PFB) <w7pfb@...>
To: 070Club <070Club@groups.io>
Sent: Sat, Jan 19, 2019 4:33 pm
Subject: Re: [070Club] Mobile or Portable Grids

Just to be clear, the apps on my iphone will give a maidenhead grid location even when I do not have cell coverage.  As long as the phone can get a GPS lock it will give me a location.

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

On Jan 19, 2019, at 9:40 AM, VA7GEM -1470 via Groups.Io <boat.anchor@...> wrote:

Dick
TVM
Looks like an old Garmin is probably the best bet when no cell coverage available.
Will have to check the Garmin in the car to see if it works.
cheers to both of you
Barry

On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 01:39 PM, Richard Rohrer wrote:
Hi Barry,

For all of my travels I us the applications talked about in the previous messages.  Has worked fine me.  Helps to find those grids that someone requests, hi hi.

Kathy say hello.

73
Dick - KC3EF


Re: Mobile or Portable Grids

Stephen Melachrinos
 

Hey, hold on a second, folks. Let's not make this harder than it has to be.

Yes, smartphones are amazing, and mobile connections to the Internet are wonderful. But not EVERYTHING you need to do requires an Internet connection. And calculating a grid square from Lat/Lon coordinates is extremely simple. (I'm not a programmer, but I'll bet I could write a set of equations in Excel in less than half an hour to do a calculation that would be good anywhere in the world.) So I went to prove that I could find an app that would calculate a grid square without using the Internet.

Of course, your phone still has to have its GPS function enabled. I have an Android phone, and I know location services are still active when in airplane mode. I'm not sure about iPhones, but you might have to do something special.

I went to the Google Play Store and downloaded the first Maidenhead grid application I found. It's called Grid Square Locator and it's written by Boris, US1PM. (It actually has very good reviews, rated 4.8 out of 5.) Then I put my phone in airplane mode (to simulate a lack of any external connections) and went driving around. 

My home is in FN20ge. By the time I got to the pharmacy (my destination), I had watched the app tell me I'd moved to FN20gf, and then FN20ff. Then I headed back, taking a longer route that took me back into FN20ge, then FN20he, then FN20hd before coming back to FN20ge.

So you really don't need anything special other than a smart phone and an app that does the calculations onboard. (I'd actually be surprised if any app really used server-side calculations for something this easy.) The only hiccup might be an app that won't run unless it can show you advertisements, and those will require an Internet connection. So if you run into that, find another app.

Steve
W3HF



Re: Mobile or Portable Grids

Paul Butzi (W7PFB)
 

Just to be clear, the apps on my iphone will give a maidenhead grid location even when I do not have cell coverage.  As long as the phone can get a GPS lock it will give me a location.

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

On Jan 19, 2019, at 9:40 AM, VA7GEM -1470 via Groups.Io <boat.anchor@...> wrote:

Dick
TVM
Looks like an old Garmin is probably the best bet when no cell coverage available.
Will have to check the Garmin in the car to see if it works.
cheers to both of you
Barry

On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 01:39 PM, Richard Rohrer wrote:
Hi Barry,

For all of my travels I us the applications talked about in the previous messages.  Has worked fine me.  Helps to find those grids that someone requests, hi hi.

Kathy say hello.

73
Dick - KC3EF


Re: Mobile or Portable Grids

VA7GEM -1470 <boat.anchor@...>
 

Dick
TVM
Looks like an old Garmin is probably the best bet when no cell coverage available.
Will have to check the Garmin in the car to see if it works.
cheers to both of you
Barry


On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 01:39 PM, Richard Rohrer wrote:
Hi Barry,

For all of my travels I us the applications talked about in the previous messages.  Has worked fine me.  Helps to find those grids that someone requests, hi hi.

Kathy say hello.

73
Dick - KC3EF


Re: Welcome

Paul Milward <nu4c@...>
 

Bryan
Welcome to the club
73 Paul NU4C 070 number 824



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