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Re: What is the YO prefixs?

Costas Krallis SV1XV <sv1xv@...>
 

At 11:47 9/3/2002 +0200, you wrote:

The Romanians are back!

Today (Saturday morning UTC) I found YO8FZ
on 14071.2 with a 599 signal. I even spotted
him to the DX-cluster!
Ye, the Romanians are back for real!
Half an hour later I had a QSO with YO9FNR
on 14 MHz

Costas






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20 EA's finally woked, hi-hi...

Zoltan Bordas <borzol@...>
 

 
...so who is digging is finding something...hi.
Yesterday I was lucky enough to find my last 3 EA's to complete the endorsement... it took for me 2 months and 8 days... so be patient with the romanian endorsement too, hi.
 
Next, jump for the JA's... last year it was more easy to find them!
 
Jay, please check my application... tnx!
 
P.S. YO6BHN is almost daily active on 10m - as far I have not worked him... and I have no YO6 in my log.
 
73 de Zoli / YO5CRQ
 


Re: What is the YO prefixs?

N3DQU@...
 

In a message dated 3/9/2002 2:42:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, kf4fhs@... writes:


Erika,

  Yep, it looks like we're slowly getting the old boy figured out. I just
can't figure out how he does it.
   I'm glad he didn't put the same kybosh on the Lower 48 endorsment, or
he'd have the whole USA shut down.

      73 , Bernie / KF4FHS


   You guys crack me up!! N3DQU


Re: What is the YO prefixs?

Costas Krallis SV1XV <sv1xv@...>
 

The Romanians are back!

Today (Saturday morning UTC) I found YO8FZ
on 14071.2 with a 599 signal. I even spotted
him to the DX-cluster!

Costas SV1XV




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Re: ARRL and QSLs

Costas Krallis SV1XV <sv1xv@...>
 

At 22:49 8/3/2002 -0800, you wrote:
I'm asking this question very seriously and in no way do I mean for it to be
rude or degrading to anyone or anything, but what is so special about the
ARRL's DXCC award ?
In the past, it was quite an achievement (especially for
North American hams) to contact 100 countries and it was
the first major milestone in their DX "career" which
led into the Honor Roll.

Of course this is no longer the case, as good operators with
medium class stations get more than 100 countries in a
contest weekend. I did 52 countries and 6 continents in
BARTG RTTY Sprint last January and I run only 100 W on
a vertical.

Is it because that you have to wait a year or more to get conformation of
some of your contacts, or is it because it is so hard to get people to send
a QSL at all, or what is it ??
Getting the cards is the major difficulty nowdays. US hams
are lucky as they receive many QSL cards via the bureau because
their contacts count for the prestigious "Worked All States"
(WAS) and Counties awards. In SV-land, we get very few
replies via bureau.

I have not applied for DXCC, because I am worried that
I might loose my cards (collected direct at high cost)
in the mail. I hope some day ARRL shall agree to accept
a list of QSL cards endorsed by the national society of
the applicant.

Costas SV1XV



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ARRL and QSLs

Duncan <zl3jt@...>
 

de Jungle Telegraph
Bernie! Exactly! You've got it!
73s


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Re: What is the YO prefixs?

Bernie <kf4fhs@...>
 

Erika,

Yep, it looks like we're slowly getting the old boy figured out. I just
can't figure out how he does it.
I'm glad he didn't put the same kybosh on the Lower 48 endorsment, or
he'd have the whole USA shut down.

73 , Bernie / KF4FHS

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Subject: Re: [070] What is the YO prefixs?


Yes Bernie,
I wondered about that before you and actually Romania
is just down the street here, if there are some on the band, I'll find
them.
But it was the same with the Spaniards, when Jay announced the EA Special,
the EA's disappeared from the bands. But after a while they will come back
though, just need one more call area for the
YO-endorsement, keep looking out for them!
Erika/DL2AYL



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Re: What is the YO prefixs?

Bernie <kf4fhs@...>
 

Steve,

I bet you're right. Jay has , no doubt, got something worked out with
those guys, just to frustrate us. He sure does have a lot of influence on
the PSK community to be able to make whole countries stay off the air :-)

73, Bernie / KF4FHS

Bernie -
Now you're making me feel guilty. I found YO6BHN on >10m at 1609z
today. Also heard (but couldn't get ) YO8FR. I think >those are the
only ones I've heard since 19 Jan.
I think there's something about being mentioned on the >070 page.
Jay announces the Anatolian contest, and all the TAs >disappear.
Then the DX-EA special, and the EAs are gone. Now >it's the YOs.
I wonder what would happen if there were an >endorsement for
working W3s? What would happen to me? Would I >even know that I
had disappeared? Or would it be a set of 070 diodes >that would go
in my feed line, too, so I could neither see nor be seen >by any other
070ers?
Inquiring minds want to know ....
Steve


Re: What is the YO prefixs?

DL2AYL@...
 

Yes Bernie,
I wondered about that before you and actually Romania
is just down the street here, if there are some on the band, I'll find them.
But it was the same with the Spaniards, when Jay announced the EA Special,
the EA's disappeared from the bands. But after a while they will come back
though, just need one more call area for the
YO-endorsement, keep looking out for them!
Erika/DL2AYL


Re: ARRL and QSLs

Bernie <kf4fhs@...>
 

I'm asking this question very seriously and in no way do I mean for it to be
rude or degrading to anyone or anything, but what is so special about the
ARRL's DXCC award ?
Is it because that you have to wait a year or more to get conformation of
some of your contacts, or is it because it is so hard to get people to send
a QSL at all, or what is it ??
I'm also having a little trouble figuring out how a card with all the
information printed, using a home computer, and sent via the Post Office, be
any more "legitimate" than a verified e-QSL, unless they are thinking that
somehow the postmark would help legitimize it, and if the card had been sent
in an envelope there wouldn't be a postmark on it.
eQSL requires that you send either a scan of your Ham license e-mailed to
them or a copy mailed to them, before you are eligible for any of their
awards, and only cards that have been verified in this manner will be
credited to your award standings. Am I right in thinking that the ARRL does
not require any sort of verification of any kind, other than the card was
sent through the mail?

It's sure got this old misplaced hillbilly puzzled.

73, Bernie / KF4FHS
Yelm, WA


SY (Was: What is the YO prefixs?)

Costas Krallis SV1XV <sv1xv@...>
 

At 21:18 8/3/2002 -0500, you wrote:


SV9,c31,TF,CU,3A,1A0,ZA,ER,HB0,SY has anybody ever heard these
countries on the air before on psk31 any band?
I have seen (but not worked) 3A2MW. Never have seen a SV9, 1A0
or ZA on PSK.
OK, I have 3A2MW confirmed in PSK-31 on May 25, 2001. ZA has not
appeared yet.

But SY is also Greece, same as SV. Did you mean something else?
Perhaps he means Mt.Athos. There is only one operator there,
SV2ASP/A, who is not active in PSK-31 (yet).

Costas SV1XV



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Re: What is the YO prefixs?

Costas Krallis SV1XV <sv1xv@...>
 

At 19:18 8/3/2002 -0500, you wrote:
Romania actually covers YOA-YRZ, even though typically we only
see YO.
Yes, a few days ago I had an SSB QSO on 80 m with YR20T (two zero),
a special event station at Carancebes, SW Romania.

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ARRL and QSLs

Duncan <zl3jt@...>
 

de Jungle Telegraph
The ARRL statement re acceptable QSL methods, is 'gobble-de-gook'! This ARRL committee,
DXCC, will accept cards from applicants, that they have received from ZL3JT, only
if those cards are posted in the mail system. The ARRL has never checked on my 'authenticity'
to my knowledge, or, in fact anybody else, unless they 'operate' from a rare entity!

If a station is 'suspect' when one submits a card for credit, the 'suspect' station
or operator is required to submit copies of licenses, travel documents etc.
My card at eqsl.cc should be acceptable, because I have Authenticity Guaranteed at
eqsl.cc! In other words eqsl.cc has seen a copy of my genuine Amateur Radio License...
The ARRL hasn't!
If ARRL cared about their own membership, they will organise access to the Log Data
Base at eqsl.cc!
Irrespective of any method of confirmation of qsos, there will be those that 'cheat'....so
what? If they do, who cares? The Cheats are only cheating themselves in order to
raise their position on the 'EGO' list...
Then, of course, I haven't considered the multi-million dollar card printing business,
have I?
73s Duncan


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Re: What is the YO prefixs?

Steve W3HF
 

SV9,c31,TF,CU,3A,1A0,ZA,ER,HB0,SY has anybody ever heard these
countries on the air before on psk31 any band?
I have C31BO on 10 and 20; TF3VS on 20; ER1DX, ER2NB, and
ER3KS on 20; CU2AT and CU3FV on 20 and CU3BL on 10; and
HB0/DL1RWB on 20.

I have seen (but not worked) 3A2MW. Never have seen a SV9, 1A0
or ZA on PSK.

But SY is also Greece, same as SV. Did you mean something else?

Steve
W3HF


Re: What is the YO prefixs?

kf4hou <kf4hou@...>
 

ok well I think it isn't a prefix but it is numeral letter combition
though . And hey check out 12m guys lots of grt opertinuties for long
haul DX wrked Morroco ,Oman ,TA,UA9,lots of Russians SV, well abt the
whole European contient on 12m except a few hard to get ones like
SV9,c31,TF,CU,3A,1A0,ZA,ER,HB0,SY has anybody ever heard these
countries on the air before on psk31 any band?
I thought Romania only had one prefix I know they are at least 5
or
6 call areas but not a prefix this is a prefix kf ,kg ,wb call
areas
are number indentifier like 1,2,3 or kg5 or kg6

Romania actually covers YOA-YRZ, even though typically we only
see YO.

But in the prefix-counting sense, the call district is included in
the
prefix. (See, for example, the rules for the CQ WPX series, or the
PODXS DPX awards, for a detailed description.)

So include the number. I've worked YO2, YO3, YO4, YO5, YO6,
YO8, and YO9, but unfortunately only two of them since 19 Jan
2002. :-(

73,
Steve
W3HF


Re: What is the YO prefixs?

Bernie <kf4fhs@...>
 

I think you're right, Steve. You guys sure do pick on us poor ole
Westcoasters. Next time ship them diodes down South.
Man, it was just like somebody flipped a switch, when Jay announced that
YO's would be good for an endorsment. I've seen several people workin YO's
but I can only see the one side of the QSO. I wonder if they're really
talking to them or just acting like it to make me feel bad ?
73, Bernie


Bernie -

Looks like you got the shipment of Romanian diodes that was
supposed to go to Steve 'YIH. The German ones worked last year,
but he blew through the JAs in January faster than we could get the
Japanese ones installed.

Maybe this means he'll have a shot at this one, since the diodes
ended up in WA instead of ID.

Steve


Re: What is the YO prefixs?

Steve W3HF
 

I think you guys are pullin my leg.

I believe that as of 19 Jan. all callsigns starting with a "Y" were
cancelled, and I'm beginning to wonder now if Romania is still a
country.

If I could get one of them fellers who used to have one of them "Y"
calls,
to e-mail me, could I count that as a contact :-)

Still way up here in the Northwest, wondering "Y" can't I see one,

73, Bernie / KF4FHS
Yelm, WA
Bernie -

Looks like you got the shipment of Romanian diodes that was
supposed to go to Steve 'YIH. The German ones worked last year,
but he blew through the JAs in January faster than we could get the
Japanese ones installed.

Maybe this means he'll have a shot at this one, since the diodes
ended up in WA instead of ID.

Steve


Re: What is the YO prefixs?

Bernie <kf4fhs@...>
 

I think you guys are pullin my leg.

I believe that as of 19 Jan. all callsigns starting with a "Y" were
cancelled, and I'm beginning to wonder now if Romania is still a country.

If I could get one of them fellers who used to have one of them "Y" calls,
to e-mail me, could I count that as a contact :-)

Still way up here in the Northwest, wondering "Y" can't I see one,

73, Bernie / KF4FHS
Yelm, WA


Re: What is the YO prefixs?

Steve W3HF
 

I thought Romania only had one prefix I know they are at least 5 or
6 call areas but not a prefix this is a prefix kf ,kg ,wb call areas
are number indentifier like 1,2,3 or kg5 or kg6

Romania actually covers YOA-YRZ, even though typically we only
see YO.

But in the prefix-counting sense, the call district is included in the
prefix. (See, for example, the rules for the CQ WPX series, or the
PODXS DPX awards, for a detailed description.)

So include the number. I've worked YO2, YO3, YO4, YO5, YO6,
YO8, and YO9, but unfortunately only two of them since 19 Jan
2002. :-(

73,
Steve
W3HF


ARRL and eQSL

N3DQU@...
 

   This from the ARRL website, regarding ARRL acceptance of eQSLs

ARRL Electronic QSL Policy

NEWINGTON, CT, Mar 7, 2002--Recent discussion regarding the QSL service offered by eQSL.ccTM suggests that there is some confusion about ARRL QSL policy. Simply put, there has been no change in League policy regarding e-QSLs. ARRL does not accept QSLs that have been transmitted to the recipient via electronic means for its awards. Anyone acting as an authorized QSL manager, however, may receive logs via e-mail (or any other direct means) and send QSL cards, via post mail, to recipients. This is the traditional QSL manager process. As has always been the case, certain norms are expected when handling cards in this manner. First, we expect that a QSL manager will seek permission from operators for whom QSLs are handled. We do not accept cards from unauthorized QSL managers for DXCC credit. Such an authorization must be a proactive choice of the DX station rather than an "opt-out" default authority given to a bulk mailer. Second, since most operators requesting QSLs expect that the returned cards will correctly reflect the actual QSO data, we expect that a QSL manager will do the checking required to assure that only real contacts are verified. We all know that raw logs contain many errors. A recent sample from a bulk-mailing QSL service show three out of five QSOs confirmed were not in the recipient's log. This is unacceptable. Often, these errors are only detected when incoming cards are compared to the log. The distribution of QSLs, without any checking of the information contained on the incoming cards is poor QSLing practice, and may lead to blanket rejection of all QSL cards from the station/manager in question. Also, we expect to be able to identify cards as authentic. Many cards are printed on home printers, and, in many cases, the data is printed on card stock at the same time. Although this is technically acceptable, the process often makes verification difficult. In certain cases we may reject these cards. Cards should be personalized or otherwise made unique through the use of a stamp or other personal mark (signature or initials) across a label boundary. Finally, the concept of obtaining a QSL card at no charge is a long-held tradition in ham radio and DXCC, and we endeavor to continue this tradition. QSL managers handling cards for DXCC submission must make cards available if adequate postage is supplied. Postage can be supplied by sending International Reply Coupons (IRCs), direct funds, or SASEs. We consider it an ethics violation if cards can only be claimed through payment of a fee; thus, we will not accept cards for DXCC credit for which a fixed charge is made. A number of well-known DXpeditioners and QSL managers do not accept bureau cards, but we are not aware of any cases where a card will not be forthcoming if adequate postage is provided. For its awards, the ARRL does not accept electronically transmitted QSLs that are printed by the recipient. There is no restriction placed on how log information is conveyed to an authorized QSL manager, however. Cards provided by QSL managers who make a reasonable effort to comply with the guidelines presented here will be gladly accepted for DXCC credit. For more information, contact ARRL Membership Services Department Manager Wayne Mills, N7NG; 860-594-0291. TMeQSL.cc is a trademark of eQSL.cc.