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Re: arrl is accepting eqsls for dxcc credit

Dick Thompson <wb0dul@...>
 

This may be duplicated to several Yahoo groups, but I wrote to Bill Moore at the ARRL.  This is the response I got.  Maybe the League has told him to "shut up?" 
 
Dick
 
 
Hi Dick:
 
There has been no change in ARRL policy regarding e-QSLs. To see what ARRL
is currently doing see this site:
 
http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2001/08/02/3/
<http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2001/08/02/3/>
 
73
 
Bill Moore NC1L

----- Original Message -----
To: 070@...
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: [070] arrl is accepting eqsls for dxcc credit

Bill,
I don't think it's a matter of the intricacies of the international postal
systems so much as the back door politicking up in Newington.  And, if you
want to up the ante by running QRPp, better try a different mode.  I've run
PSK31 from 5 to 75 watts and have had 599's at both levels, with an antenna
made of a soda pop can and some hookup wire.  I haven't tried it transmitting
thru my dummy load yet...  hmmm, now there's an idea.  Anyone wanna try
setting a new record?  Longest dx on 5 watts and a nonradiating dummy load. 
If it can be done, PSK's the mode.

73,
Jay - AA8QQ


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Re: arrl is accepting eqsls for dxcc credit

Dick Thompson <wb0dul@...>
 

Hi Bill,
 
Well, I'm not on a crusade here.  I just want a clarification of what Bill Moore really said or what he meant when he said it.  A simple "If cards are printed by a printer and sent to you through eQSL and eQSL has verified your logbook, qualifies as a legitimate contact" should be enough.  I'm a supporter af the ARRL.  They have done a lot for amateur radio over the years.  But they should also take into consideration the cost of sending and (hopefully) receiving a QSL card for confirmation of a country. 
 
I think we should all write to Bill Moore.  His address is dxcc@....  We should push for a clarification from the League.  Bill simply manages the program, the League makes the decisions.  He says that he was quoted "out of context."  Well, I read his e-mail on eQSL and I don't quite understand his statement. 
 
Write to him.  Maybe a little pressure from everyone will help get a decision from the League.  It may not be the decision we want to hear, but at least we would know where they stand. 
 
73,
 
Dick
070 Member # 180
 

----- Original Message -----
To: 070@...
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 1:14 AM
Subject: Re: [070] arrl is accepting eqsls for dxcc credit

Dick,

Sure appreciate your efforts (and those of others as
well) at getting this issue resolved.  Keep up the pressure!

I'm kinda new at this, but lately, with the 14 to 29 Mhz
bands as open as they are, I get the idea that working
100 DXCC entities is nowhere near as challenging as
getting 100 paper QSL returns.  Maybey that isn't the
case when the sunspots dry up and blow away, but I
thought this DXCC challenge thingie was supposed to be
about radios, antennas, propogation, sleepless nights,
sensitive receivers and expeditions; not the intricacies
of the international postal systems.  The way it is, the
emphasis is on the wrong skill......... or am I missing
something here?? Maybe we need to run half watt QRP just
to even up the challenge.............or enter the 21st
century like the rest of the world.

73,  Bill
KG6EXF
> I agree with what you say, 100%, Steve.  I was a little puzzled by Bill Moore's
> reply, and was wondering to myself whether his statement that the League's
> Position hasn't changed on DXCC or whether he's saying that the Leagues position
> hasn't changed as long as they have a printed QSL card.  He was not very clear,
> and I think I am going to write to him again and ask why he feels he was quoted
> out of context.  Maybe we should all write to him and ask what gives.  It would
> be interesting if the ARRL would put out a formal statement on how they stand. 
> In short I think they are concerned that their own Logbook of the World would be
> jeopardized.  I really doubt that is the case. 
>
> It's getting very expensive to QSL these days.  That applies from our end and
> the DX stations end.  I have never been able to understand how a QSL sent
> electronically could be construed as unacceptable.  What does a "printed" QSL
> have that makes it superior? 
>
> Maybe I'm missing something here, maybe not. 
>
> Thanks for responding, Steve.  I appreciate your comments. 
>
> 73,
>
> Dick
> wb0dul@...
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Melachrinos, Stephen J
>   To: '070@...'
>   Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 6:29 PM
>   Subject: RE: [070] arrl is accepting eqsls for dxcc credit
>
>
>   Dick -
>
>   I guess I'm not sure what Bill means by "quoted out of context." Both the
> email posting on the TARA group and the page on the eQSL web site APPEAR to be
> complete copies of Bill's email. Ernest's announcement is admittedly
> abbreviated, but I believe it has the same information regarding the card
> itself. (It must be a printed card, created by eQSL, not the recipient, and sent
> to the recipient as a printed card, such as by mail.)
>
>   The only thing missing is the statement regarding "checking the log to verify
> the contact." Here's where maybe it gets a little sticky. I believe Bill's > intent here is that the "QSL Manager" (in this case eQSL) compares the QSO
> information submitted by me to the logs of the DX station, and only creates a
> QSL when that information matches. That is the typical routine for a manager.
> But there are some cases where QSL managers simply QSL all contacts whether
> requested or not. In this case, there is no "log comparison," as the manager
> simply QSLs based on his own information. The latter is what eQSL does. If a DX
> station sends me an eQSL, I can print and receive that card without formally
> confirming it. And there is no indication of that on the eQSL card.
>
>   The spin that the eQSL folks are putting on it, based on Bill's email, is that
> in order for the card to be valid for DXCC, **I** must compare the card to
> **my** log and verify the contact. Typically I will then send a confirming reply
> via the eQSL system. And once I make this comparison, and then have eQSL print
> and mail a card, the card will be valid for DXCC.
>
>   Each person should read Bill's email in its entirety, and compare it to the
> process described by eQSL, and form their own opinion on whether Bill is being
> misinterpreted.
>
>   Unfortunately this thing is still spinning out of hand. Bill's email's appear
> to be inconsistent, when I don't believe he intends them to be that way. At this
> point, I believe two things need to happen:
>
>   1. There needs to be some sort of formal announcement from the ARRL regarding
> this.
>   2. The ARRL needs to agree that the steps laid out on the eQSL site are
> correct, and that cards created that way will be accepted.
>
>   So far I think Bill has stated a process, and eQSL has interpreted it.
> (Correctly, in my opinion.) But Bill is not the final authority on DXCC, and
> until they speak formally, this issue is not settled. I hope they are working on
> this.
>
>   Steve
>   W3HF
>
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Dick Thompson [mailto:wb0dul@...]
>     Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 3:50 PM
>     To: 070@...
>     Subject: Re: [070] arrl is accepting eqsls for dxcc credit
>
>
>     Ernest, I dropped an e-mail to Bill Moore to ask for a carification on the
> DXCC acceptance of eQSL cards. 
>
>     Here is his response to me.  I wish it was more positive. 
>
>     Response from Bill Moore at ARRL: 
>
>     Hi Dick:
>     
>     I was quoted out of context. If you read my message closely you'll see.
>     
>     However, DXCC has not changed its position with regards to e-QSLs.
>     
>     73
>     
>     Bill Moore NC1L
>     
>     
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Dick - WB0DUL
>     Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 4:02 PM
>     To: dxcc@...
>     Subject: Fw: [070] arrl is accepting eqsls for dxcc credit
>
>
>     Hi Bill,
>     
>     I received the following e-mail from the 070 site on Yahoo Groups.  Is there
> any truth to it?  I haven't seen anything on http://www.arrl.org/
>     Until I do, I'm not buying the announcement.  Many are waiting for word that > it is true.  It would make sense if it was.  If it is, then an announcement
> would be nice.  The alleged e-mail from you is posted on the eQSL site (see link
> in message below). 
>     
>     Hope to hear back from you. 
>     
>     73,
>     
>     Dick
>     wb0dul@...
>       ----- Original Message -----
>       From: kg9ni
>       To: 070@...
>       Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 12:29 PM
>       Subject: [070] arrl is accepting eqsls for dxcc credit
>
>
>       Hello all.  ARRL is accepting eQSLs that are printed and mailed via
>       the eQSL mailing service for DXCC credit...this is big news.  The eQSL
>       cost is still a buck a card--less than direct DX postage in most cases
>       (I think) & a lot faster.  Currently eQSL can only mail out to US
>       addresses, but I expect that we might(???) see eQSL mailing points
>       cropping up in DX locations to provide the same service there w/o DX
>       postage costs.  That would be pretty cool...
>
>       News at:
>       http://www.eqsl.cc  (login and read the news...February 8, 2002 email
>       from Bill Moore, NC1L, is there in its entirety)
>
>       Thanks to Bob, VX4XA (VE4XA) for letting me know!
>
>       73-
>       Ernest
>       KG9NI
>
>
>
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Re: arrl is accepting eqsls for dxcc credit

kf4hou <kf4hou@...>
 

From: Moore, Bill, NC1L [mailto:bmoore@arrl.org]
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 12:31 PM
To: 'Richard B. Drake'
Cc: DXCC
Subject: RE: Professionally Printed and mailed eQSL's
Hi Rich:
Something does not sound right here. You are saying that Dave is
physically mailing out QSL cards by the US postal system? This is
news to me.

If you are my QSL manager and I send you my logs by e-mail, I am
sending them direct from point A to point B. Just as if I was sending
them to you by regular mail. This is OK. I remember somewhere several
years ago that some people used to get their logs over the air on
RTTY and another digital mode (AMTOR I think). Not a problem.

However, if as the result of a log being sent to E-QSL, someone goes
in and receives a card electronically and uses it for DXCC, that e-
QSL cannot be accepted for DXCC credit under rule 2. I spent a bit of
time with a simple shareware program to prove the unreliability of
that method.

However, if Dave, acting as QSL manager with station logs completes a
card (even one from his printer) and sends it by mail to you, this is
an acceptable exchange and we have see this often for several years
now. (assuming he phyiscally checks the log). Many people use self-
made cards from their printer. Each one is evaluated on a case by
case basis, and many times under Section IV rule 4(b) we have
conducted an audit to insure the vaildity of a card like this.

In cases like this it would be REAL nice if they used a stamp or
placed their initials or signature on it, but this is not required by
the rules. However, this issue has been discussed and has been given
some consideration.

To clarify, if Dave is sending out cards through the US Postal System
as the result of the log(s) he receives, this is OK. (This would
basically be operating as QSL manager).

Regards,

Bill Moore NC1L
DXCC Manager

Note: Use of this message is authorized in discussions as long as it
is used in its entirity and as long as parts are not edited out.


Costas, write to Bill Moore at dxcc@a..., and express your feelings
to him directly. I agree that clarification is needed. A can of
worms has been opened by Bill Moore and now he needs to clarify what
he said and/or put it to rest.

73,

Dick
wb0dul@a...


----- Original Message -----
From: Costas Krallis SV1XV
To: 070@y...
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 9:00 PM
Subject: RE: [070] arrl is accepting eqsls for dxcc credit


At 20:29 12/2/2002 -0500, you wrote:

> Unfortunately this thing is still spinning out of hand. Bill's
email's appear to be inconsistent, when I
> don't believe he intends them to be that way. At this point, I
believe two things need to happen:
>
> 1. There needs to be some sort of formal announcement from the
ARRL regarding this.
> 2. The ARRL needs to agree that the steps laid out on the eQSL
site are correct, and that
> cards created that way will be accepted.
>
> So far I think Bill has stated a process, and eQSL has
interpreted it. (Correctly, in my opinion.)


Another issue here is: How do they (ARRL) know that a card is
printed by eQSL.CC and
mailed instead of being printed locally by the recipient? I think
that some type of signature
and/or rubber stamp endorsement at eQSL is essential.

73 Costas SV1XV






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Re: arrl is accepting eqsls for dxcc credit

AA8QQJMauch@...
 

from the arrl web site:

NEWINGTON, CT, Aug 2, 2001--Fast on the heels of approval of the
"Logbook of the World" by the ARRL Board of Directors, ...

Should read
... Fast on the heels of eQSL, the ARRL Board of Directors,...

de AA8QQ


Re: arrl is accepting eqsls for dxcc credit

AA8QQJMauch@...
 

Bill,
I don't think it's a matter of the intricacies of the international postal
systems so much as the back door politicking up in Newington. And, if you
want to up the ante by running QRPp, better try a different mode. I've run
PSK31 from 5 to 75 watts and have had 599's at both levels, with an antenna
made of a soda pop can and some hookup wire. I haven't tried it transmitting
thru my dummy load yet... hmmm, now there's an idea. Anyone wanna try
setting a new record? Longest dx on 5 watts and a nonradiating dummy load.
If it can be done, PSK's the mode.

73,
Jay - AA8QQ


Re: SV1CAX/MM

g7ahn <sv1xv@...>
 

--- In 070@y..., David Kjellquist <dave@k...> wrote:
Vangelis is on 20 PSK from 300 NW of PR. Very strong
signal into PA
He is now only 150 nm SW from PR heading to Aruba
on M/T FALCON. He is active almost daily from 0100
with IC-706 MkIIg and dipole antenna. He is in a
very good position for QSO with USA, even West
Coast.

73 Costas SV1XV


Re: arrl is accepting eqsls for dxcc credit

Bills4570@...
 

Dick,

Sure appreciate your efforts (and those of others as
well) at getting this issue resolved. Keep up the pressure!

I'm kinda new at this, but lately, with the 14 to 29 Mhz
bands as open as they are, I get the idea that working
100 DXCC entities is nowhere near as challenging as
getting 100 paper QSL returns. Maybey that isn't the
case when the sunspots dry up and blow away, but I
thought this DXCC challenge thingie was supposed to be
about radios, antennas, propogation, sleepless nights,
sensitive receivers and expeditions; not the intricacies
of the international postal systems. The way it is, the
emphasis is on the wrong skill......... or am I missing
something here?? Maybe we need to run half watt QRP just
to even up the challenge.............or enter the 21st
century like the rest of the world.

73, Bill
KG6EXF

I agree with what you say, 100%, Steve. I was a little puzzled by Bill Moore's
reply, and was wondering to myself whether his statement that the League's
Position hasn't changed on DXCC or whether he's saying that the Leagues position
hasn't changed as long as they have a printed QSL card. He was not very clear,
and I think I am going to write to him again and ask why he feels he was quoted
out of context. Maybe we should all write to him and ask what gives. It would
be interesting if the ARRL would put out a formal statement on how they stand.
In short I think they are concerned that their own Logbook of the World would be
jeopardized. I really doubt that is the case.

It's getting very expensive to QSL these days. That applies from our end and
the DX stations end. I have never been able to understand how a QSL sent
electronically could be construed as unacceptable. What does a "printed" QSL
have that makes it superior?

Maybe I'm missing something here, maybe not.

Thanks for responding, Steve. I appreciate your comments.

73,

Dick
wb0dul@arrl.net


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

----- Original Message -----
From: Melachrinos, Stephen J
To: '070@yahoogroups.com'
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 6:29 PM
Subject: RE: [070] arrl is accepting eqsls for dxcc credit


Dick -

I guess I'm not sure what Bill means by "quoted out of context." Both the
email posting on the TARA group and the page on the eQSL web site APPEAR to be
complete copies of Bill's email. Ernest's announcement is admittedly
abbreviated, but I believe it has the same information regarding the card
itself. (It must be a printed card, created by eQSL, not the recipient, and sent
to the recipient as a printed card, such as by mail.)

The only thing missing is the statement regarding "checking the log to verify
the contact." Here's where maybe it gets a little sticky. I believe Bill's > intent here is that the "QSL Manager" (in this case eQSL) compares the QSO
information submitted by me to the logs of the DX station, and only creates a
QSL when that information matches. That is the typical routine for a manager.
But there are some cases where QSL managers simply QSL all contacts whether
requested or not. In this case, there is no "log comparison," as the manager
simply QSLs based on his own information. The latter is what eQSL does. If a DX
station sends me an eQSL, I can print and receive that card without formally
confirming it. And there is no indication of that on the eQSL card.

The spin that the eQSL folks are putting on it, based on Bill's email, is that
in order for the card to be valid for DXCC, **I** must compare the card to
**my** log and verify the contact. Typically I will then send a confirming reply
via the eQSL system. And once I make this comparison, and then have eQSL print
and mail a card, the card will be valid for DXCC.

Each person should read Bill's email in its entirety, and compare it to the
process described by eQSL, and form their own opinion on whether Bill is being
misinterpreted.

Unfortunately this thing is still spinning out of hand. Bill's email's appear
to be inconsistent, when I don't believe he intends them to be that way. At this
point, I believe two things need to happen:

1. There needs to be some sort of formal announcement from the ARRL regarding
this.
2. The ARRL needs to agree that the steps laid out on the eQSL site are
correct, and that cards created that way will be accepted.

So far I think Bill has stated a process, and eQSL has interpreted it.
(Correctly, in my opinion.) But Bill is not the final authority on DXCC, and
until they speak formally, this issue is not settled. I hope they are working on
this.

Steve
W3HF


-----Original Message-----
From: Dick Thompson [mailto:wb0dul@arrl.net]
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 3:50 PM
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [070] arrl is accepting eqsls for dxcc credit


Ernest, I dropped an e-mail to Bill Moore to ask for a carification on the
DXCC acceptance of eQSL cards.

Here is his response to me. I wish it was more positive.

Response from Bill Moore at ARRL:

Hi Dick:

I was quoted out of context. If you read my message closely you'll see.

However, DXCC has not changed its position with regards to e-QSLs.

73

Bill Moore NC1L



-----Original Message-----
From: Dick - WB0DUL
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 4:02 PM
To: dxcc@arrl.org
Subject: Fw: [070] arrl is accepting eqsls for dxcc credit


Hi Bill,

I received the following e-mail from the 070 site on Yahoo Groups. Is there
any truth to it? I haven't seen anything on http://www.arrl.org/
Until I do, I'm not buying the announcement. Many are waiting for word that > it is true. It would make sense if it was. If it is, then an announcement
would be nice. The alleged e-mail from you is posted on the eQSL site (see link
in message below).

Hope to hear back from you.

73,

Dick
wb0dul@arrl.net
----- Original Message -----
From: kg9ni
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 12:29 PM
Subject: [070] arrl is accepting eqsls for dxcc credit


Hello all. ARRL is accepting eQSLs that are printed and mailed via
the eQSL mailing service for DXCC credit...this is big news. The eQSL
cost is still a buck a card--less than direct DX postage in most cases
(I think) & a lot faster. Currently eQSL can only mail out to US
addresses, but I expect that we might(???) see eQSL mailing points
cropping up in DX locations to provide the same service there w/o DX
postage costs. That would be pretty cool...

News at:
http://www.eqsl.cc (login and read the news...February 8, 2002 email
from Bill Moore, NC1L, is there in its entirety)

Thanks to Bob, VX4XA (VE4XA) for letting me know!

73-
Ernest
KG9NI




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Re: arrl is accepting eqsls for dxcc credit

Dick Thompson <wb0dul@...>
 

Costas, write to Bill Moore at dxcc@..., and express your feelings to him directly.  I agree that clarification is needed.  A can of worms has been opened by Bill Moore and now he needs to clarify what he said and/or put it to rest. 
 
73,
 
Dick
 
 

----- Original Message -----
To: 070@...
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 9:00 PM
Subject: RE: [070] arrl is accepting eqsls for dxcc credit

At 20:29 12/2/2002 -0500, you wrote:

> Unfortunately this thing is still spinning out of hand. Bill's email's appear to be inconsistent, when I
> don't believe he intends them to be that way. At this point, I believe two things need to happen:
>
> 1. There needs to be some sort of formal announcement from the ARRL regarding this.
> 2. The ARRL needs to agree that the steps laid out on the eQSL site are correct, and that
>     cards created that way will be accepted.
>
> So far I think Bill has stated a process, and eQSL has interpreted it. (Correctly, in my opinion.)


Another issue here is: How do they (ARRL) know that a card is printed by eQSL.CC and
mailed instead of being printed locally by the recipient? I think that some type of signature
and/or rubber stamp endorsement at eQSL is essential.

73  Costas SV1XV






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Re: arrl is accepting eqsls for dxcc credit

Dick Thompson <wb0dul@...>
 

I agree with what you say, 100%, Steve.  I was a little puzzled by Bill Moore's reply, and was wondering to myself whether his statement that the League's Position hasn't changed on DXCC or whether he's saying that the Leagues position hasn't changed as long as they have a printed QSL card.  He was not very clear, and I think I am going to write to him again and ask why he feels he was quoted out of context.  Maybe we should all write to him and ask what gives.  It would be interesting if the ARRL would put out a formal statement on how they stand.  In short I think they are concerned that their own Logbook of the World would be jeopardized.  I really doubt that is the case. 
 
It's getting very expensive to QSL these days.  That applies from our end and the DX stations end.  I have never been able to understand how a QSL sent electronically could be construed as unacceptable.  What does a "printed" QSL have that makes it superior? 
 
Maybe I'm missing something here, maybe not. 
 
Thanks for responding, Steve.  I appreciate your comments. 
 
73,
 
Dick
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 6:29 PM
Subject: RE: [070] arrl is accepting eqsls for dxcc credit

Dick -
 
I guess I'm not sure what Bill means by "quoted out of context." Both the email posting on the TARA group and the page on the eQSL web site APPEAR to be complete copies of Bill's email. Ernest's announcement is admittedly abbreviated, but I believe it has the same information regarding the card itself. (It must be a printed card, created by eQSL, not the recipient, and sent to the recipient as a printed card, such as by mail.)
 
The only thing missing is the statement regarding "checking the log to verify the contact." Here's where maybe it gets a little sticky. I believe Bill's intent here is that the "QSL Manager" (in this case eQSL) compares the QSO information submitted by me to the logs of the DX station, and only creates a QSL when that information matches. That is the typical routine for a manager. But there are some cases where QSL managers simply QSL all contacts whether requested or not. In this case, there is no "log comparison," as the manager simply QSLs based on his own information. The latter is what eQSL does. If a DX station sends me an eQSL, I can print and receive that card without formally confirming it. And there is no indication of that on the eQSL card.
 
The spin that the eQSL folks are putting on it, based on Bill's email, is that in order for the card to be valid for DXCC, **I** must compare the card to **my** log and verify the contact. Typically I will then send a confirming reply via the eQSL system. And once I make this comparison, and then have eQSL print and mail a card, the card will be valid for DXCC.
 
Each person should read Bill's email in its entirety, and compare it to the process described by eQSL, and form their own opinion on whether Bill is being misinterpreted.
 
Unfortunately this thing is still spinning out of hand. Bill's email's appear to be inconsistent, when I don't believe he intends them to be that way. At this point, I believe two things need to happen:
 
1. There needs to be some sort of formal announcement from the ARRL regarding this.
2. The ARRL needs to agree that the steps laid out on the eQSL site are correct, and that cards created that way will be accepted.
 
So far I think Bill has stated a process, and eQSL has interpreted it. (Correctly, in my opinion.) But Bill is not the final authority on DXCC, and until they speak formally, this issue is not settled. I hope they are working on this.
 
Steve
W3HF
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Dick Thompson [mailto:wb0dul@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 3:50 PM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] arrl is accepting eqsls for dxcc credit

Ernest, I dropped an e-mail to Bill Moore to ask for a carification on the DXCC acceptance of eQSL cards. 
 
Here is his response to me.  I wish it was more positive.  
 
Response from Bill Moore at ARRL: 
 
Hi Dick:
 
I was quoted out of context. If you read my message closely you'll see.
 
However, DXCC has not changed its position with regards to e-QSLs.
 
73
 
Bill Moore NC1L
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Dick - WB0DUL 
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 4:02 PM
To: dxcc@...
Subject: Fw: [070] arrl is accepting eqsls for dxcc credit


Hi Bill,
 
I received the following e-mail from the 070 site on Yahoo Groups.  Is there any truth to it?  I haven't seen anything on http://www.arrl.org/
Until I do, I'm not buying the announcement.  Many are waiting for word that it is true.  It would make sense if it was.  If it is, then an announcement would be nice.  The alleged e-mail from you is posted on the eQSL site (see link in message below). 
 
Hope to hear back from you. 
 
73,
 
Dick
wb0dul@...
----- Original Message -----
From: kg9ni
To: 070@...
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 12:29 PM
Subject: [070] arrl is accepting eqsls for dxcc credit

Hello all.  ARRL is accepting eQSLs that are printed and mailed via
the eQSL mailing service for DXCC credit...this is big news.  The eQSL
cost is still a buck a card--less than direct DX postage in most cases
(I think) & a lot faster.  Currently eQSL can only mail out to US
addresses, but I expect that we might(???) see eQSL mailing points
cropping up in DX locations to provide the same service there w/o DX
postage costs.  That would be pretty cool...

News at:
http://www.eqsl.cc  (login and read the news...February 8, 2002 email
from Bill Moore, NC1L, is there in its entirety)

Thanks to Bob, VX4XA (VE4XA) for letting me know!

73-
Ernest
KG9NI



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Re: arrl is accepting eqsls for dxcc credit

Costas Krallis SV1XV <sv1xv@...>
 

At 20:29 12/2/2002 -0500, you wrote:

Unfortunately this thing is still spinning out of hand. Bill's email's appear to be inconsistent, when I
don't believe he intends them to be that way. At this point, I believe two things need to happen:

1. There needs to be some sort of formal announcement from the ARRL regarding this.
2. The ARRL needs to agree that the steps laid out on the eQSL site are correct, and that
cards created that way will be accepted.

So far I think Bill has stated a process, and eQSL has interpreted it. (Correctly, in my opinion.)

Another issue here is: How do they (ARRL) know that a card is printed by eQSL.CC and
mailed instead of being printed locally by the recipient? I think that some type of signature
and/or rubber stamp endorsement at eQSL is essential.

73 Costas SV1XV






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Re: arrl is accepting eqsls for dxcc credit

Steve W3HF
 

Dick -
 
I guess I'm not sure what Bill means by "quoted out of context." Both the email posting on the TARA group and the page on the eQSL web site APPEAR to be complete copies of Bill's email. Ernest's announcement is admittedly abbreviated, but I believe it has the same information regarding the card itself. (It must be a printed card, created by eQSL, not the recipient, and sent to the recipient as a printed card, such as by mail.)
 
The only thing missing is the statement regarding "checking the log to verify the contact." Here's where maybe it gets a little sticky. I believe Bill's intent here is that the "QSL Manager" (in this case eQSL) compares the QSO information submitted by me to the logs of the DX station, and only creates a QSL when that information matches. That is the typical routine for a manager. But there are some cases where QSL managers simply QSL all contacts whether requested or not. In this case, there is no "log comparison," as the manager simply QSLs based on his own information. The latter is what eQSL does. If a DX station sends me an eQSL, I can print and receive that card without formally confirming it. And there is no indication of that on the eQSL card.
 
The spin that the eQSL folks are putting on it, based on Bill's email, is that in order for the card to be valid for DXCC, **I** must compare the card to **my** log and verify the contact. Typically I will then send a confirming reply via the eQSL system. And once I make this comparison, and then have eQSL print and mail a card, the card will be valid for DXCC.
 
Each person should read Bill's email in its entirety, and compare it to the process described by eQSL, and form their own opinion on whether Bill is being misinterpreted.
 
Unfortunately this thing is still spinning out of hand. Bill's email's appear to be inconsistent, when I don't believe he intends them to be that way. At this point, I believe two things need to happen:
 
1. There needs to be some sort of formal announcement from the ARRL regarding this.
2. The ARRL needs to agree that the steps laid out on the eQSL site are correct, and that cards created that way will be accepted.
 
So far I think Bill has stated a process, and eQSL has interpreted it. (Correctly, in my opinion.) But Bill is not the final authority on DXCC, and until they speak formally, this issue is not settled. I hope they are working on this.
 
Steve
W3HF
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Dick Thompson [mailto:wb0dul@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 3:50 PM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] arrl is accepting eqsls for dxcc credit

Ernest, I dropped an e-mail to Bill Moore to ask for a carification on the DXCC acceptance of eQSL cards. 
 
Here is his response to me.  I wish it was more positive.  
 
Response from Bill Moore at ARRL: 
 
Hi Dick:
 
I was quoted out of context. If you read my message closely you'll see.
 
However, DXCC has not changed its position with regards to e-QSLs.
 
73
 
Bill Moore NC1L
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Dick - WB0DUL 
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 4:02 PM
To: dxcc@...
Subject: Fw: [070] arrl is accepting eqsls for dxcc credit


Hi Bill,
 
I received the following e-mail from the 070 site on Yahoo Groups.  Is there any truth to it?  I haven't seen anything on http://www.arrl.org/
Until I do, I'm not buying the announcement.  Many are waiting for word that it is true.  It would make sense if it was.  If it is, then an announcement would be nice.  The alleged e-mail from you is posted on the eQSL site (see link in message below). 
 
Hope to hear back from you. 
 
73,
 
Dick
wb0dul@...
----- Original Message -----
From: kg9ni
To: 070@...
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 12:29 PM
Subject: [070] arrl is accepting eqsls for dxcc credit

Hello all.  ARRL is accepting eQSLs that are printed and mailed via
the eQSL mailing service for DXCC credit...this is big news.  The eQSL
cost is still a buck a card--less than direct DX postage in most cases
(I think) & a lot faster.  Currently eQSL can only mail out to US
addresses, but I expect that we might(???) see eQSL mailing points
cropping up in DX locations to provide the same service there w/o DX
postage costs.  That would be pretty cool...

News at:
http://www.eqsl.cc  (login and read the news...February 8, 2002 email
from Bill Moore, NC1L, is there in its entirety)

Thanks to Bob, VX4XA (VE4XA) for letting me know!

73-
Ernest
KG9NI



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PODXS DPX

Ernest Mills <emills@...>
 

Congratulations to Dieter, DL2RR for successfully gaining the PODXS Digital Prefix Award in both the MIXED and RTTY categories. Shh! A little bird tells me that Dieter might soon be claiming the PSK certificate as well. That would be certificate number # 0001  :)  Very well done. 
    73 Ernie Mills, PODXS-DPX manager) 
 
PS. Ok 070 members! who's next? 
 


Re: arrl is accepting eqsls for dxcc credit

Dick Thompson <wb0dul@...>
 

Ernest, I dropped an e-mail to Bill Moore to ask for a carification on the DXCC acceptance of eQSL cards. 
 
Here is his response to me.  I wish it was more positive.  
 
Response from Bill Moore at ARRL: 
 
Hi Dick:
 
I was quoted out of context. If you read my message closely you'll see.
 
However, DXCC has not changed its position with regards to e-QSLs.
 
73
 
Bill Moore NC1L
 
 


-----Original Message-----
From: Dick - WB0DUL 
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 4:02 PM
To: dxcc@...
Subject: Fw: [070] arrl is accepting eqsls for dxcc credit


Hi Bill,
 
I received the following e-mail from the 070 site on Yahoo Groups.  Is there any truth to it?  I haven't seen anything on http://www.arrl.org/
Until I do, I'm not buying the announcement.  Many are waiting for word that it is true.  It would make sense if it was.  If it is, then an announcement would be nice.  The alleged e-mail from you is posted on the eQSL site (see link in message below). 
 
Hope to hear back from you. 
 
73,
 
Dick
wb0dul@...
----- Original Message -----
From: kg9ni
To: 070@...
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 12:29 PM
Subject: [070] arrl is accepting eqsls for dxcc credit

Hello all.  ARRL is accepting eQSLs that are printed and mailed via
the eQSL mailing service for DXCC credit...this is big news.  The eQSL
cost is still a buck a card--less than direct DX postage in most cases
(I think) & a lot faster.  Currently eQSL can only mail out to US
addresses, but I expect that we might(???) see eQSL mailing points
cropping up in DX locations to provide the same service there w/o DX
postage costs.  That would be pretty cool...

News at:
http://www.eqsl.cc  (login and read the news...February 8, 2002 email
from Bill Moore, NC1L, is there in its entirety)

Thanks to Bob, VX4XA (VE4XA) for letting me know!

73-
Ernest
KG9NI


Re: arrl is accepting eqsls for dxcc credit

Dick Thompson <wb0dul@...>
 

When do you think Bill Moore is going to make an official announcement, Ernest?  I haven't seen anything from the League as yet.  Until I do, I'm not going to buy into the program.  I hope they do accept printed eQSL cards.  it would make sense.  But I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
 
Dick
 
 

----- Original Message -----
From: kg9ni
To: 070@...
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 12:29 PM
Subject: [070] arrl is accepting eqsls for dxcc credit

Hello all.  ARRL is accepting eQSLs that are printed and mailed via
the eQSL mailing service for DXCC credit...this is big news.  The eQSL
cost is still a buck a card--less than direct DX postage in most cases
(I think) & a lot faster.  Currently eQSL can only mail out to US
addresses, but I expect that we might(???) see eQSL mailing points
cropping up in DX locations to provide the same service there w/o DX
postage costs.  That would be pretty cool...

News at:
http://www.eqsl.cc  (login and read the news...February 8, 2002 email
from Bill Moore, NC1L, is there in its entirety)

Thanks to Bob, VX4XA (VE4XA) for letting me know!

73-
Ernest
KG9NI



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Re: IOTA Question

Bernie <kf4fhs@...>
 

Thank You Erika, & 73.

Bernie / KF4FHS

----- Original Message -----
From: <DL2AYL@t-online.de>
To: <070@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: [070] IOTA Question


Bernie, go to

http://www.rsgbiota.org/rules01.htm

under this addrees you'll find all you need to know.
73's Erika/DL2AYL


Re: IOTA Question

DL2AYL@...
 

Bernie, go to

http://www.rsgbiota.org/rules01.htm

under this addrees you'll find all you need to know.
73's Erika/DL2AYL

----- Original Message -----
From: "bernie_kf4fhs" <kf4fhs@hotmail.com>
To: <070@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 5:28 PM
Subject: [070] IOTA Question



Hello All,

Could someone please tell me where I can find the most complete
IOTA reference list. The one I'm using doesn't seem to list them all.

Thanks & 73,
Bernie / KF4FHS



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IOTA Question

bernie_kf4fhs <kf4fhs@...>
 

Hello All,

Could someone please tell me where I can find the most complete
IOTA reference list. The one I'm using doesn't seem to list them all.

Thanks & 73,
Bernie / KF4FHS


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UT5RP 28120.0 V51AS PSK31 1440Hz 1231 08 Feb
UT5RP 28120.0 PY7MG PSK31 1550Hz 1233 08 Feb
KF4HOU 24920.0 DJ6MN psk31 1335 08 Feb
JI1ANI 21070.0 YK1AO psk31 1360hz 1341 08 Feb
KU4VE 24920.0 UA9CA CQ PSK 879 Hz 1345 08 Feb
DH8IAT 14070.0 YK1AO PSK31 QSL direct 1413 08 Feb
DH8IAT 28120.3 J28FF PSK31 1428 08 Feb
DM2DMI 28084.5 K5BTV Jim PSK31 1456 08 Feb
ON7GB 21071.4 S9LA *PSK31* QSL via LA2N 1545 08 Feb
K3PSK 24920.3 F5NZO RTTY 1724 08 Feb
UT5RP 14070.0 VU2SKD PSK31 1010Hz 1732 08 Feb
F5OZK 28120.1 PY2FR * PSK-31 * 1824 08 Feb
UT5RP 14070.0 HF0POL PSK31 1220Hz 2024 08 Feb
UT5RP 14070.0 CE8FGC PSK31 1050Hz 2130 08 Feb
JI1ANI 28120.0 CP6EB PSK31 2284HZ 2159 08 Feb
JI1ANI 28120.0 CX3VB PSK31 1040HZ CQ 2201 08 Feb

W5ZPA 14070.9 FR5HA PSK-31 0232 09 Feb
KP4SQ 14070.0 4X6UO psk 0352 09 Feb
OM8NY 14070.8 XQ5CL PSK,op.Hector 0517 09 Feb
DL9RNO 28119.7 DU3NXE 738HZ PSK31 OP CHUCK 0701 09 Feb
DL9RNO 28120.3 JA3KM 1448HZ PSK31 0822 09 Feb
DL2BQV 18100.0 DM2BLE PSK31 cq 0844 09 Feb
UT5RP 14070.0 IS0YWA PSK31 1820Hz 1134 09 Feb
UT5RP 28120.0 V51AS PSK31 1490Hz 1138 09 Feb
UT5RP 28119.0 UN0B PSK31 1810Hz 1141 09 Feb
UT5RP 28120.0 F/UR5EEZ PSK31 1200Hz 1155 09 Feb
UT5RP 14070.0 P29CC PSK31 1100Hz QSO with me 1258 09 Feb
UT5RP 21071.0 LY2BBZ PSK31 1900Hz 1310 09 Feb
OZ1PMX 24922.0 KC5GNB PSK31 1356 09 Feb
UT5RP 14069.0 UA0SOD PSK31 1880Hz 1410 09 Feb
UT5RP 21069.0 EA6/I1RSA PSK31 1420Hz 1429 09 Feb
DL3ZBA 28120.0 UN7BM PSK31 5 Watt ! 1434 09 Feb
W5FKX 14071.2 P29CC Chip **psk31 1435 09 Feb
UT5RP 28120.0 5R8FL PSK31 1050Hz 1437 09 Feb
UT5RP 28120.0 CX5ABM PSK31 1920Hz 1437 09 Feb
UT5RP 28121.0 UA0AKL PSK31 1200Hz 1438 09 Feb
UT5RP 28120.0 LU9ED PSK31 1160Hz 1439 09 Feb
UT5RP 28120.0 UN7BM PSK31 1310Hz 1440 09 Feb
UT5RP 28120.0 LW2EIY PSK31 1620Hz 1441 09 Feb
UT5RP 28119.0 IS0YWA PSK31 1850Hz 1442 09 Feb
UT5RP 14069.0 4K5D PSK31 1520Hz 1444 09 Feb
UT5RP 14070.0 C31BO PSK31 1120Hz 1445 09 Feb
DL9RNO 28120.5 CX5ABM 1348HZ PSK31 1455 09 Feb
DL9RNO 28120.5 CP6EB 850hz PSK31 CQ 1502 09 Feb
KF4HOU 24920.0 G4TZX psk31 1510 09 Feb
KF4HOU 24920.0 DK1TS psk31 1529 09 Feb
KF4HOU 24920.0 RA3AET psk31 1538 09 Feb
DS5RYB 14070.0 EX0V PSK31 1546 09 Feb
KF4HOU 24920.0 SP3RNZ psk31 1621 09 Feb
DL1RG 21071.2 YK1AO psk31 1649 09 Feb
DL3ZBA 14070.0 C31BO PSK31 1929 09 Feb
UT5RP 14069.0 LU5EEV PSK31 1860Hz 2107 09 Feb
UT5RP 14069.0 IS0FBK PSK31 1680Hz 2108 09 Feb
UT5RP 14070.0 SV1DVY PSK31 1950Hz 2109 09 Feb
DL3ZBA 14070.0 EA8/ON8RI PSK31 QRP... 2138 09 Feb

N7CZ 14070.0 LU7DP PSK31 "Julio" 0005 10 Feb
N9UKX 14070.8 FR5AB psk 0327 10 Feb
UT5RP 14070.0 TA2AP PSK31 1560Hz 0726 10 Feb
UT5RP 14071.0 EW7EW PSK31 1330Hz 0754 10 Feb
UT5RP 14070.0 9H4CM PSK31 1990Hz 0800 10 Feb
UT5RP 28120.0 EI1DG PSK31 1050Hz 0955 10 Feb
UT5RP 28119.0 YL2KJ PSK31 1430Hz QSO with LZ3WF 1011 10 Feb
UT5RP 28120.0 LU9ED PSK31 1280Hz 1012 10 Feb
UT5RP 28120.0 EA8ADM PSK31 1170Hz 1109 10 Feb
UT5RP 28120.0 ER2NB PSK31 1480Hz 1110 10 Feb
UT5RP 28120.0 PY2FZU PSK31 1770Hz 1111 10 Feb
UT5RP 28121.0 ZS1LG PSK31 1350Hz 1112 10 Feb
UT5RP 28120.0 EC8AYS PSK31 1430Hz 1124 10 Feb
UT5RP 21071.0 CU3BL PSK31 1030Hz 1126 10 Feb
UT5RP 28121.0 CX5ABM PSK31 1200Hz 1140 10 Feb
UT5RP 28120.0 TA7AO PSK31 1040Hz 1141 10 Feb
UT5RP 28120.0 PY2MCK PSK31 1740Hz 1143 10 Feb
UT5RP 14070.0 IS0FBK PSK31 1230Hz 1145 10 Feb
UT5RP 14070.0 EI4JF PSK31 1050Hz 1200 10 Feb
UT5RP 28120.0 GD3FXN PSK31 1410Hz 1201 10 Feb
UT5RP 28119.0 SV3FUO PSK31 1780Hz 1202 10 Feb
UT5RP 28120.0 F/UR5EEZ PSK31 1840Hz 1203 10 Feb
UT5RP 28120.0 UN0B PSK31 1460Hz 1214 10 Feb
UT5RP 28120.0 UN7BM PSK31 1200Hz 1215 10 Feb
UT5RP 14069.0 C31BO PSK31 1940Hz 1236 10 Feb
UT5RP 14070.0 YL2CS PSK31 1340Hz 1335 10 Feb
UT5RP 14070.0 BD8DL PSK31 1010Hz 1340 10 Feb
UT5RP 28119.0 UA2FDZ PSK31 1400Hz 1342 10 Feb
S53X 28120.0 5R8FL *PSK31* 1000Hz 1354 10 Feb
UT5RP 28120.0 ES3BR PSK31 1430Hz 1355 10 Feb
UT5RP 28121.0 LU7DP PSK31 1360Hz QSL mng LU1DK 1356 10 Feb
RA6BX 14069.7 FR5HA BPSK31 joseph Reunio isl 1412 10 Feb
LU1VEX 28180.0 LU3VD psk31 1443 10 Feb
K6EID 28122.0 TA2AP PSK3! 559 hr 1446 10 Feb
UT5RP 21070.0 9U5D PSK31 1430Hz QSL mng SM5BFJ 1447 10 Feb
UT5FB 28120.0 KP2/K8NI PSK31 1240Hz 1510 10 Feb
UT5RP 14070.0 EA6/I1RSA PSK31 1160Hz 1520 10 Feb
UT5RP 21070.0 EU7SH PSK31 1350Hz 1522 10 Feb
DL6SN 137.5 DF6NM BPSK in qso DK8KW 1533 10 Feb
UT5RP 28120.0 HF0POL PSK31 1770Hz QSO with CV2UP 1547 10 Feb
UT5RP 14070.0 V51NH PSK31 1520Hz Called V51TE 1623 10 Feb
UT5RP 14070.0 4K5D PSK31 1360Hz 1626 10 Feb
UT5RP 28119.0 CV2UP PSK31 1750Hz Special fest.stn 1707 10 fEB
UT5RP 28120.0 SV1CAX/MM PSK31 1050Hz 1740 10 Feb
UT5RP 14070.0 U1NZ PSK31 1860Hz WW II Veteran 1742 10 Feb
UT5RP 14070.0 EI9EW PSK31 1400Hz 1745 10 Feb
UT5RP 14070.0 ES7AM PSK31 1500Hz 1855 10 Feb
KG1D 14070.1 V51AS BPSK 2144 10 Feb

Always a lot of 9A, UA, UR, UT, DL, F, HA, OK, I, G, GI, LA, GW, OH,
SP, ON, EA, SM, S5, SV, YO, LA, LU, PY, W, JA, OE, HB and many other
countries on the Bands.

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Notes of interest:

9U - BURUNDI. Gus 9U5D is active on PSK31 untill March 3. Then he
will go back to Sweden. QSL via SM5BFJ [TNX 9U5D]

KG4- GUANTANAMO BAY. Don, W4ZYT, informs OPDX that as of now, the
planned Guantanamo Bay operation by the Virginia DX Century Club
appears to be a go. They will be there from February 12-20th, and
should be operational February 12-19th, with participation in the
ARRL CW DX Contest. Activity will be on all bands and modes,inclu-
ding PSK-31. The operators are: Don W4ZYT/KG4ZK, O.B. W4SD/KG4SD,
Chuck N8CH/KG4NW, Gordon KU4EC/KG4EC, and Chet N6ZO/KG4??. They
will use the VaDXCC Club Callsign KG4DZ in the contest. Please QSL
via the individual stations. QSL KG4DZ via W4SD. Bureau cards are
fine, but should go via the individual operator's HOME CALL BUREAU
as there is no longer a KG4 Bureau. [TNX OPDX]

OA - Ghi, ON4CD is active as OA/ON4CD from Peru until the end of the
year. He operates on 20, 17, 15, 12 and 10 metres CW (14005/14010,
21005/21010, 18080/18090, 24900/24905 and 28005/28010 kHz), RTTY
and PSK, with some SSB from time to time. He says that sometimes
the QRN level is S9+20db and there is no way to decode anything.

S9 - SAO TOME. LA5QKA, LA5UF, LA6EIA, LA6FJA, LA7THA, LA7WCA, LC3EAT,
LC6ZBT, SM5COP and SM5IMO are active as S9LA until February 11
using CW, SSB, RTTY, SSTV and PSK31 on 160 to 6 meters. QSL via
LA2N. [TNX ARLD]

T8 - PALAU. Mitsu, JH5OXF will be QRV as T88XF using CW, SSB, RTTY and
PSK31 on 80 to 6 meters from February 9 to 12. QSL to home call.
Meanwhile, Derek, G3KHZ, Maurizio, IZ1CRR and Nando, IT9YRE are
QRV as T88SI from Sonsorol Island, no IOTA number as yet, until
February 10. Activity is on 40 to 10 meters, including the newer
bands, using CW and SSB. QSL via IT9YRE. [TNX ARLD]

VP2M-Art, N2NB will be active as VP2MDY from Montserrat (NA-103) on
14-26 February. Look for him on 6-160 metres on all modes, PSK31
included. QSL via N2NB. [TNX 425DXN]

ZF - Doug, N6TQS, will be operating in the RTTY WPX contest this coming
weekend 9-10 February) from Little Cayman as ZF2QS. He hopes to be
on PSK31 before and after the contest. QSL to home CBA. [TNX RTDX]

TARA PSK31 RUMBLE ---> The TARA PSK31 Rumble (The Spring Wakeup),
sponsored by Troy ARA, will take place from 00.00 UTC through 24.00
UTC on 20 April (PSK only on 80, 40, 20, 15, 10 and 6 metres).
Ruleas are available at http://www.qsl.net/wm2u/rumble.html or
http://www.n2ty.org [TNX WM2U, wm2u@n2ty.org]

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http://radio.cn.ua/radio/index.html

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73's and have a good DX Hunting.
Dima - UT5RP
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BeaconSee - Great propagation tool

WB5NHL
 

If you haven't visited the IARU HF beacon web site
lately. Or, don't know what BeaconSee is. Or, better
yet have no idea what I'm talking about you're missing
one of the best ways of finding out what is really
happening on the HF bands.

Yesterday, I installed BeaconSee on my WinDoze
computer. It is a little like watching grass grow but
,Wow I can see via a waterfall diplay, propagation to
beacons world wide automatically. The program
automatically tunes my TS-570 receiver (and many other
rigs). In 20 minutes of monitoring last night I
realized that there should be more evening activity on
15 meters.

If all this sounds interesting checkout the NCDXF/IARU
beacon site at http://www.ncdxf.org/beacon.htm

The software BeaconSee is available at
http://sapp.telepac.pt/coaa/

Note your computer needs to be accurately time
synchronized via an attached GPS rcvr or I use web
based time servers on my DSL line with the program
AboutTime available at http://www.arachnoid.com/abouttime/

Sorry for such a long posting but this program to
monitor HF beacons is really neat.

73 Dave WB5NHL


Re: IOTA Help Needed

DL2AYL@...
 

Yes, South Padre belongs to the West Texas Group, according to the IOTA
Directory.
Good luck with the Island chasing!
Erika/DL2AYL

----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen J. Melachrinos" <w3hf@arrl.net>
To: <070@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 6:16 AM
Subject: [070] IOTA Help Needed


IOTA Spot: For those of you chasing IOTAs, AA4ME is on South
Padre Island in Texas. He is wintering there, and running 50 watts
from a FT-100 into a whip on the back of his RV.

Now for the question: Which IOTA is South Padre Island? Is it part
of NA-092 West Texas group?

Thanks.

Steve
W3HF


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