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Re: 40 & 80m

Bernie <kf4fhs@...>
 

Hey Everyone,

There was talk on the reflector about generating more PSK activity on the
40 meter band, and someone mentioned a short, fun, sprint type contest.
It sounded like a good idea to me , so I emailed N3DQU and volunteered to
do the thing if it was OK with him. We coresponded for several hours last
night trying to figure a way where everyone would have the best shot at good
conditions on 40 meters, and we decided that to use local time would the
most fair for everyone.
We also looked at the contests that are being held in July and this was
the only time that nothing else was going on. I know it's short notice, but
it's not another field day, only a 6 hour sprint, so it doesn't take a whole
lot of preparation, tune to 40 meters and start sending CQ.
BTW: If anyone is interested, Digipan will log local time by clicking
"view" and then un-checking "UTC". Pretty simple eh?

73, Bernie / KF4FHS


Re: 40 & 80m

Dick Thompson <wb0dul@...>
 

No need to put it on the back burner just for me, Jay. It was a good idea to have the contest to gain interest in 40 meter PSK, but I don't think anyone expected it to happen at the drop of a hat. I'm just expressing my own opinion. It will be interesting to see what others think. This is a holiday weekend and many folks are off on a trip somewhere. If I can participate, I'll be there.

With the National Forests closed to the public for the time being here in Colorado Springs area, we want to try to get some camping time in and a commercial CG or National Park are the only other options. That's one reason I voiced my opinion, as we just might take off.

I'm not griping about the timeframe of the contest, Jay, just wondered why it had to happen this weekend?

73,

Dick
WB0DUL@arrl.net

----- Original Message -----
From: N3DQU@aol.com
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: [070] Re: 40 & 80m


In a message dated 7/5/2002 10:36:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
wb0dul@arrl.net writes:


> I agree with you on the short notice for the contest. I'm a little confused
> as to why it has to be this weekend unless they want it to tie in with the
> holiday, thus the name "Firecracker Sprint."

Actually, the reason why we picked this weekend is because it one of the
few weekends in July without any major contests going on. The 13-14 is the
IARU HF Championship, the 20-21 is the NA RTTY QSO Party, the 27-28 is the
Russian RTTY WW Contest and RSGB IOTA Contest...If you guys want, we can put
the sprint on the backburner til a later date...Jay N3DQU





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Re: 40 Meter Sprint update

Dick Thompson <wb0dul@...>
 

We just thought it would be nice of you to send the contest winner to Jamaica for a week to rest up from the pressures of the contest. The winner can take his wife or girlfriend, or both. :)

Oh, we would never take advantage of your advanced years. We wouldn't, would we, guys and gals?

73,

Dick
WB0DUL@arrl.net

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Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 12:24 AM
Subject: Re: [070] 40 Meter Sprint update


In a message dated 7/5/2002 2:01:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time, wb0dul@arrl.net
writes:


> And the winner does get a trip to Jamaica, right? On you, of course. Quit
> evading it. We're all waiting. :)

Where the heck did this Jamaica thing come from anyways? I think you guys are
taking advantage of my advanced years hi!





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Re: 40 & 80m

Dick Thompson <wb0dul@...>
 

Have fun at Cedar Point, Chris. We used to live in Lima and it's a fun place to visit (Cedar Point, not Lima) Hi Hi.

I agree with you on the short notice for the contest. I'm a little confused as to why it has to be this weekend unless they want it to tie in with the holiday, thus the name "Firecracker Sprint." A lot of folks would participate, even those who were not 070 members, if there were more time. I'd love to participate, but may not be able to do so because of the short notice. The original idea for a 40 meter PSK contest was to generate interest in 40 meters for the mode, and I fully support that idea. I wish it had been my idea. But such short notice isn't going to generate a lot of interest. I hope the organizers will reconsider and change the date to one a little further along on the calendar.

Again, have fun at Cedar Point. That will be more fun than a PSK contest. :)

73,

Dick
WB0DUL@arrl.net

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To: <070@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 6:06 AM
Subject: Re: [070] Re: 40 & 80m


Peter,

That sounds good on 10 M or even a 80M sprint would be good. I will not be
able to be in the 40 M sprint this time, I have to take the kids away to
Cedar Point for the weekend. The family always seem to know when to mess up
my radio time. Next time I think it would be nice to have a little more
notice. Good Luck to everyone in the Sprint. George, MM0CBL is on 20 meter
most of the time now he said that 10 meter has been out for him the last 2
weeks so look for him there.

Chris KC8LJN

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Baskind" <pbaskind@midsouth.rr.com>
To: <070@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 7:28 AM
Subject: RE: [070] Re: 40 & 80m



Wonderful .... only not so many rules that it takes a lawyer to
interpret them !!! Its a hobby.... <G>
No. Let's make them such that ONLY lawyers can interpret them. Yeah...
that's the ticket!

Peter, AG4KI

Peter Baskind, J.D., LL.M.
Germantown, TN
Voice: (901) 624-5295
Fax: (901) 624-6060
pbaskind@midsouth.rr.com

BTW: How 'bout a 10m event before the Summer is out? That might be fun,
too.



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40m sprint debate

N3DQU@...
 

Before you guys dump on Bernie, everyone should know that it was my idea
to base the start times on local time, not Bernie's. We HFer's are so used to
using GMT for everything, that it seems almost sacreligious to base an HF
contest on local time, but here is my reasoning on the subject, see if it
seems logical to you.
If we start the 40m sprint at say 0000z, then for those on the east coast
this would be great time, 2000 to 0200 local. The long skip would be opening
up on 40m and we would not have to lose much sleep in the bargain. VE9DX
would probably have a pretty good time in the sprint.
But look at them poor guys over in Europe...starting at 0000z is like 0100
local time in Germany. Doesnt really strike me as fair that Erika & Co. has
to spend a sleepless night staying up to play in the sprint. The band would
start to go south for them halfway thru the contest as the sun started to
come up in the east and the f layers died out. Not a fun time for our members
across the pond and Erika would look like heck come the morning!
Now let's take a look at the guys on the left coast. For them, starting at
0000z is 1700 local time or thereabouts, hardly a peak time on 40m. They
might manage a few good hops towards the end of the sprint, but for most of
the contest the props will be short for them. I really dont think the left
coasters will have much fun either and N6YIH will start boo-hooing again abt
how they are always getting shortchanged out in their part of the world :o)
So that is my rationale for basing the sprint start time on local time. We
made the sprint 6 hours long to try and overlap the propagation across a
greater distance, so there is a good chance of working Europe fm the east
coast and Hawaii from the west. Also, you do not have to log in local time,
just work the contest starting at 2000 local time and log in zulu as usual.
Because of the short time, a sprint is pretty tough to make it fair for
everybody. I think basing the start time on local time is the best way of
achieving this...Jay N3DQU


Re: 40m Sprint question

N3DQU@...
 

I will be there, altho late as I have to work...Btw, we aren't asking you
to log your entries by local time, just to use your local time as the start
time for the sprint...Jay N3DQU


Re: 40 & 80m

John Durbin <durbinsjz@...>
 

Peter,

That sounds good on 10 M or even a 80M sprint would be good. I will not be
able to be in the 40 M sprint this time, I have to take the kids away to
Cedar Point for the weekend. The family always seem to know when to mess up
my radio time. Next time I think it would be nice to have a little more
notice. Good Luck to everyone in the Sprint. George, MM0CBL is on 20 meter
most of the time now he said that 10 meter has been out for him the last 2
weeks so look for him there.

Chris KC8LJN

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Baskind" <pbaskind@midsouth.rr.com>
To: <070@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 7:28 AM
Subject: RE: [070] Re: 40 & 80m



Wonderful .... only not so many rules that it takes a lawyer to
interpret them !!! Its a hobby.... <G>
No. Let's make them such that ONLY lawyers can interpret them. Yeah...
that's the ticket!

Peter, AG4KI

Peter Baskind, J.D., LL.M.
Germantown, TN
Voice: (901) 624-5295
Fax: (901) 624-6060
pbaskind@midsouth.rr.com

BTW: How 'bout a 10m event before the Summer is out? That might be fun,
too.



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Re: 40 Meter Sprint update

n0bhc
 

In a message dated 7/5/02 9:41:13 AM Central Daylight Time, wb0dul@arrl.net
writes:


We just thought it would be nice of you to send the contest winner to
Jamaica for a week to rest up from the pressures of the contest. The
winner can take his wife or girlfriend, or both. :)

Oh, we would never take advantage of your advanced years. We wouldn't,
would we, guys and gals?

73,

Dick
WB0DUL@arrl.net
I still think it's great of JAY to make the offer to reward the winner. What
a guy!

Bob N0BHC


Re: 40 & 80m

Peter Baskind <pbaskind@...>
 

Wonderful .... only not so many rules that it takes a lawyer to
interpret them !!! Its a hobby.... <G>
No. Let's make them such that ONLY lawyers can interpret them. Yeah...
that's the ticket!

Peter, AG4KI

Peter Baskind, J.D., LL.M.
Germantown, TN
Voice: (901) 624-5295
Fax: (901) 624-6060
pbaskind@midsouth.rr.com

BTW: How 'bout a 10m event before the Summer is out? That might be fun,
too.


Re: 40 & 80m

N3DQU@...
 

In a message dated 7/5/2002 10:36:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
wb0dul@arrl.net writes:


I agree with you on the short notice for the contest. I'm a little confused
as to why it has to be this weekend unless they want it to tie in with the
holiday, thus the name "Firecracker Sprint."
Actually, the reason why we picked this weekend is because it one of the
few weekends in July without any major contests going on. The 13-14 is the
IARU HF Championship, the 20-21 is the NA RTTY QSO Party, the 27-28 is the
Russian RTTY WW Contest and RSGB IOTA Contest...If you guys want, we can put
the sprint on the backburner til a later date...Jay N3DQU


Re: 40 Meter Sprint update

Dick Thompson <wb0dul@...>
 

And the winner does get a trip to Jamaica, right? On you, of course. Quit evading it. We're all waiting. :)

73,

Dick
WB0DUL@arrl.net

----- Original Message -----
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To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 11:36 PM
Subject: Re: [070] 40 Meter Sprint update


In a message dated 7/5/2002 1:30:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time, wb0dul@arrl.net
writes:


> Local time? Everybody will be on at a different time. How about UTC? We
> all understand that.
>
> 73,
>
> Dick

Well, the problem with a low band sprint is that 40m will be good for only
part of the world, while the rest will be fighting the sun and fading f
layers. But if we do the sprint using local times instead, then 40m will be
good for everybody. No, you wont be able to work everybody in the contest,
but at least everyone will have more or less the same band to play on. I
think it will work out ok...Jay N3DQU





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Re: 40 & 80m

Tom <tomias@...>
 

Wonderful .... only not so many rules that it takes a lawyer to interpret them !!! Its a hobby.... <G>

Tom, k3psk

----- Original Message -----
From: Bernie
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 8:50 PM
Subject: Re: [070] Re: 40 & 80m


OK all you squeaky wheels are goin to get some grease.

We are going to have a 40 meter Sprint type contest towards the middle to
end of July.

N3DQU and myself are working out the finer points, as you read this, so it
will be as fair for everyone as possible. When everything is worked out I
will post the rules.

Anyone with thoughts of Jamacia will need to contact N3DQU.

73, Bernie / KF4FHS


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40 Meter PSK Sprint

Bernie <kf4fhs@...>
 

OK, for everybody who wants to have a little fun this weekend, the PODXS
070 club is sponsoring the first ever PODXS 070 Club 40 meterPSK Firecracker
Sprint.

The date and times are Saturday, 6-July-2002, 2000 - 0200 YOUR LOCAL TIME.

For a complete set of rules go to:

http://www.angelfire.com/folk/leonards/40mrules.html

or if you have any questions, you can e-mail me at:

kf4fhs@ywave.com


Hope to see you this Saturday evening.

73, Bernie / KF4FHS


Re: 40 Meter Sprint update

Dick Thompson <wb0dul@...>
 

Local time? Everybody will be on at a different time. How about UTC? We all understand that.

73,

Dick
WB0DUL@arrl.net

----- Original Message -----
From: Bernie
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 8:18 PM
Subject: [070] 40 Meter Sprint update


STOP THE PRESSES.

I jumped the gun a little.

The 40 Meter Sprint will be from 2000 - 0200 LOCAL time, I repeat LOCAL
time, Saturday 6-July-2002.

I repeat again 2000 - 0200 LOCAL time. Saturday
6-July-2002

I will post when the rules are on the website.

73, Bernie / KF4FHS


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Re: 40 Meter Sprint update

Bernie <kf4fhs@...>
 

Hey Ed,

If I forget to call you, just remember on Saturday night, when the big
hand is on the 12 and the little hand is on the 8, start calling CQ 40m TEST
:-)

See ya Saturday & 73,
Bernie / KF4FHS

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Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 8:44 PM
Subject: Re: [070] 40 Meter Sprint update


Count me in.
Benie,can you call me around 8 pm? Our sundials quit working down here
around
sunset......

FWIW,as an avid 40M psker; the lower frequencies are a little less prone
from
interference.I usually set the dial for 7.069.
Patience is the keyword,on 40M ,when you're getting slammed by
interference.And,even when the noise level is running S5-S7,you can still
pull out a trace or two.
Fun band.I've worked AL to WA on 5W,on 40M.
CU Sat.
73,
Ed N4ZUM


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Re: 40 Meter Sprint update

Bernie <kf4fhs@...>
 

Hey Jay,

YOUR local time. It starts at 8 pm Saturday evening, no matter where you
are.

73, Bernie / KF4FHS

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Sent: Thursday, July 04, 2002 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: [070] 40 Meter Sprint update


Hey Bernie,
Which LOCAL time? Yours or mine (Eastern or Pacific)?

Jay - AA8QQ


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Re: 40 Meter Sprint update

N3DQU@...
 

In a message dated 7/5/2002 2:01:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time, wb0dul@arrl.net
writes:


And the winner does get a trip to Jamaica, right? On you, of course. Quit
evading it. We're all waiting. :)
Where the heck did this Jamaica thing come from anyways? I think you guys are
taking advantage of my advanced years hi!


40 Meter Sprint update

Bernie <kf4fhs@...>
 

STOP THE PRESSES.

I jumped the gun a little.

The 40 Meter Sprint will be from 2000 - 0200 LOCAL time, I repeat LOCAL
time, Saturday 6-July-2002.

I repeat again 2000 - 0200 LOCAL time. Saturday
6-July-2002

I will post when the rules are on the website.

73, Bernie / KF4FHS


Re: 40 & 80m

Bernie <kf4fhs@...>
 

OK all you squeaky wheels are goin to get some grease.

We are going to have a 40 meter Sprint type contest towards the middle to
end of July.

N3DQU and myself are working out the finer points, as you read this, so it
will be as fair for everyone as possible. When everything is worked out I
will post the rules.

Anyone with thoughts of Jamacia will need to contact N3DQU.

73, Bernie / KF4FHS


Re: 40 Meter Sprint update

N3DQU@...
 

In a message dated 7/5/2002 1:30:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time, wb0dul@arrl.net
writes:


Local time? Everybody will be on at a different time. How about UTC? We
all understand that.

73,

Dick
Well, the problem with a low band sprint is that 40m will be good for only
part of the world, while the rest will be fighting the sun and fading f
layers. But if we do the sprint using local times instead, then 40m will be
good for everybody. No, you wont be able to work everybody in the contest,
but at least everyone will have more or less the same band to play on. I
think it will work out ok...Jay N3DQU