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Re: 80m Autumn Sprint - Attic Antenna!!

Costas Krallis SV1XV <sv1xv@...>
 

At 15:53 21/7/2002 +0200, you wrote:

Seems I can't get an idea for an 80 m antenna, all the
offered url's keep telling me " Site can't be found" .
Hi, I have an NVIS dipole (at 6 m over ground plane),
which is unsuitable for long distance QSOs. I manage
only to have a few extra multipliers from the neighborhood
in CW/RTTY contests but it don't think I can contribute
seriously to the 80 m contest.

73 Costas SV1XV


Re: 80m Autumn Sprint - Attic Antenna!!

DL2AYL@...
 

Thanks Bernie,
I have found a website of a dealer for the IsoTron antenna, it is worth
considering. Must think about it...
73's Erika/DL2AYL


Re: 80m Autumn Sprint - Attic Antenna!!

Bernie <kf4fhs@...>
 

Hey Erika,

The link I posted is a .pdf file and you need Acrobat reader to view it.
The link to it is good, I just checked it out.
http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/pdf/0104040.pdf

The article is on this website:
http://www.dxzone.com/catalog/Technical_Reference/Antennas/Wire/

It's titled "80 Meter Wire Antenna" the first one on the list. You might
try going to the website to get it.

73, Bernie / KF4FHS

----- Original Message -----
From: <DL2AYL@t-online.de>
To: <070@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 6:53 AM
Subject: Re: [070] 80m Autumn Sprint - Attic Antenna!!


Seems I can't get an idea for an 80 m antenna, all the offered url's keep
telling me " Site can't be found" .
73's Erika/DL2AYL


Re: 80m Autumn Sprint - Attic Antenna!!

Dick Thompson <wb0dul@...>
 

Peter,

Hamsticks work great. I live in a gated community (retirement mobile home park) in Colorado Springs. I have permission to put up an antenna as long as it isn't too "obnoxious." So, to keep peace I went to a Hustler 4BTV Vertical mounted on the ground. (A neighbor, K0UIV, heard that I was going to put up an antenna, so he put a Hustler 6BTV on his roof, with tuned radial, and hasn't had any complaints from management or neighors). It works fine. But, before I put up the 4BTV I used Hamsticks and still do for 12, 17 & 75 meters. I took a piece of aluminum and attached it to the supports for an aluminum cover over my rear porch/redwood deck. Then I attached a mirror mount and a male quick disconnect on it. At the base of the Hamsticks I used the female quick disconnect. It's easy to change, although standing on a redwood chair to reach up and change bands is/was a pain, it works. There are times I can hear better with the Hamsticks than with the 4BTV. I've never used the Hamsticks in a rotatable dipole configuration, but I've talked to guys/gals that have and they seem to think they work quite well and are "somewhat" directional. Since I have permission from the Management here I will probably try one this Fall or Winter. My neighbors haven't complained (although I had one neighbor a block away that said I was getting into her computer speakers and telephone). A couiple of toroids solved the computer speaker problem and the phone lines were the phone company problem, as she said she was hearing the interference when I wasn't even transmitting. That was an easy solution.

Give the Hamsticks a try. Either configuration (dipole or vertical) may work well. They are a great little antenna. I have several different makes of the, but call the Hamsticks. Kinda like Kleenex. It doesn't make any difference who makes it, it's still Kleenex. :)

Good luck and I hope the "Reasonable accomodation" legislation in the House at present, gets passed and you will be allowed to install a better antenna system.

73,

Dick
WB0DUL@arrl.net

If you'd like a picture of how I have the Hamstick mounted on my porch cover, provide me with an e-mail address and I'll be most happy to send them to you. You can e-mail me directly at the address below my name.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Baskind" <pbaskind@midsouth.rr.com>
To: <070@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2002 7:18 AM
Subject: RE: [070] 80m Autumn Sprint - Attic Antenna!!


Steve-

I have the same issue that you have. Iron-clad CCR and a big attic. I have
not yet operated much below 20m. 20m and above, my antennas work quite well
(I even have a rotatable 3-el beam for 6m)

I have been meaning to try Hamstick dipoles for 30 & 40 meters. Of course,
one can do the same for 80m. While I am sure Hamstick dipoles would be
rather inefficient, such a setup might get guys like us presence on the
band, and might even be a step above a dummy load.

Just a thought...

Peter Baskind
AG4KI


Peter Baskind, J.D., LL.M.
Germantown, TN
Voice: (901) 624-5295
Fax: (901) 624-6060
pbaskind@midsouth.rr.com



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CONTACT INFO: KF4FHS CBA OR KF4FHS@YWAVE.COM.
-->W3HF/QRP, 10-17 AUGUST, BOGUE BANKS IS, NC (IOTA NA-112), 20-10M
CONTACT INFO: W3HF CBA OR W3HF@ARRL.NET.


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Re: 80m Autumn Sprint - Attic Antenna!!

DL2AYL@...
 

Seems I can't get an idea for an 80 m antenna, all the offered url's keep
telling me " Site can't be found" .
73's Erika/DL2AYL


Re: 80m Autumn Sprint - Attic Antenna!!

Peter Baskind <pbaskind@...>
 

Steve-

I have the same issue that you have. Iron-clad CCR and a big attic. I have
not yet operated much below 20m. 20m and above, my antennas work quite well
(I even have a rotatable 3-el beam for 6m)

I have been meaning to try Hamstick dipoles for 30 & 40 meters. Of course,
one can do the same for 80m. While I am sure Hamstick dipoles would be
rather inefficient, such a setup might get guys like us presence on the
band, and might even be a step above a dummy load.

Just a thought...

Peter Baskind
AG4KI


Peter Baskind, J.D., LL.M.
Germantown, TN
Voice: (901) 624-5295
Fax: (901) 624-6060
pbaskind@midsouth.rr.com


Re: 80m Autumn Sprint - Attic Antenna!!

Dave Kjellquist, WB5NHL
 

Steve;
Check my web site, http://www.oldcyberdude.com on
the ham pages for my 80 meter vertical!!!! It doesn't
fit in an attic exactly but ......I put the tophat on
the attic floor and drop a single inconspicuous wire
from the soffitt to the ground outside my shack. A
few "midnight" efforts to slice in 4 radials into the
turf and I had an 80 meter vertical. I make no claims
on efficiency but it loads over most of the band
without a tuner (of course resistors do to). Using a
tuner I get a 40 meter radiator that I use as an
alternate to the attic "slinky".

---- 070@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Me too. Anyone have any ideas for something that
will fit in an attic?

Steve
W3HF


Uhmm! I'll have to get an 80 meter antenna up eh!
Love it :) Ernie

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bernie" <kf4fhs@ywave.com>
To: <070@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2002 3:10 AM
Subject: [070] 80m Autumn Sprint


The PODXS 070 Club is proud to announce the
first ever 80 meter PSK
31 Autumn Sprint.
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THE FOLLOWING APE STATIONS ARE SCHEDULED TO BE ON
THE AIR:
-->KF4FHS/KD7ORS, 2-4 AUGUST, VASHON IS, WA (USI
WA060S), 30-10M
CONTACT INFO: KF4FHS CBA OR KF4FHS@YWAVE.COM.
-->W3HF/QRP, 10-17 AUGUST, BOGUE BANKS IS, NC (IOTA
NA-112), 20-10M
CONTACT INFO: W3HF CBA OR W3HF@ARRL.NET.


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Re: 80m Autumn Sprint

Bernie <kf4fhs@...>
 

Hey Jay,

You're right, 5 watts out is qrp, no matter how it's manufactured.

If we could get everybody to use one of these dummy whips of yours maybe,
I could win something.

The 160 Sprint will be coming up towards the end of the year.

73, Bernie / KF4FHS

----- Original Message -----
From: <AA8QQJMauch@aol.com>
To: <070@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2002 7:28 PM
Subject: Re: [070] 80m Autumn Sprint


Hey Steve & Ernie,
How about a dummy load with an 8' whip sticking out of it? That oughta
fit
in an attic. Might even put a few mW out on the air (with a kW in). Hey
Bernie, would that be considered QRP? Less than 5 watts out into the air
from the system.
Other than that, an 80 meter sprint sounds like a good time to check out
some
of these wires hangin around here. When's the 160 meter sprint?

73 de Jay - AA8QQ


THE FOLLOWING APE STATIONS ARE SCHEDULED TO BE ON THE AIR:
-->KF4FHS/KD7ORS, 2-4 AUGUST, VASHON IS, WA (USI WA060S), 30-10M
CONTACT INFO: KF4FHS CBA OR KF4FHS@YWAVE.COM.
-->W3HF/QRP, 10-17 AUGUST, BOGUE BANKS IS, NC (IOTA NA-112), 20-10M
CONTACT INFO: W3HF CBA OR W3HF@ARRL.NET.


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Re: 80m Autumn Sprint

Bernie <kf4fhs@...>
 

Hey Steve,

Check out this article:

http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/pdf/0104040.pdf

73, Bernie / KF4fHS

----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen J. Melachrinos" <w3hf@arrl.net>
To: <070@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2002 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: [070] 80m Autumn Sprint


Me too. Anyone have any ideas for something that will fit in an attic?

Steve
W3HF


Uhmm! I'll have to get an 80 meter antenna up eh! Love it :) Ernie

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bernie" <kf4fhs@ywave.com>
To: <070@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2002 3:10 AM
Subject: [070] 80m Autumn Sprint


The PODXS 070 Club is proud to announce the first ever 80 meter PSK
31 Autumn Sprint.

THE FOLLOWING APE STATIONS ARE SCHEDULED TO BE ON THE AIR:
-->KF4FHS/KD7ORS, 2-4 AUGUST, VASHON IS, WA (USI WA060S), 30-10M
CONTACT INFO: KF4FHS CBA OR KF4FHS@YWAVE.COM.
-->W3HF/QRP, 10-17 AUGUST, BOGUE BANKS IS, NC (IOTA NA-112), 20-10M
CONTACT INFO: W3HF CBA OR W3HF@ARRL.NET.


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Re: 80m Autumn Sprint

Steve W3HF
 

Well, I'm open to suggestions, but I think this one is a bit much!!!

Uhmm! what do you say Steve? he who laughs last, laughs longest eh!
Ernie

----- Original Message -----
From: <AA8QQJMauch@aol.com>
To: <070@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2002 10:28 PM
Subject: Re: [070] 80m Autumn Sprint


Hey Steve & Ernie,
How about a dummy load with an 8' whip sticking out of it? That
oughta
fit
in an attic. Might even put a few mW out on the air (with a kW in).
Hey Bernie, would that be considered QRP? Less than 5 watts out
into the air from the system. Other than that, an 80 meter sprint
sounds like a good time to check out
some
of these wires hangin around here. When's the 160 meter sprint?

73 de Jay - AA8QQ


Re: 80m Autumn Sprint

Ernest Mills <emills@...>
 

Uhmm! what do you say Steve? he who laughs last, laughs longest eh! Ernie

----- Original Message -----
From: <AA8QQJMauch@aol.com>
To: <070@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2002 10:28 PM
Subject: Re: [070] 80m Autumn Sprint


Hey Steve & Ernie,
How about a dummy load with an 8' whip sticking out of it? That oughta
fit
in an attic. Might even put a few mW out on the air (with a kW in). Hey
Bernie, would that be considered QRP? Less than 5 watts out into the air
from the system.
Other than that, an 80 meter sprint sounds like a good time to check out
some
of these wires hangin around here. When's the 160 meter sprint?

73 de Jay - AA8QQ


THE FOLLOWING APE STATIONS ARE SCHEDULED TO BE ON THE AIR:
-->KF4FHS/KD7ORS, 2-4 AUGUST, VASHON IS, WA (USI WA060S), 30-10M
CONTACT INFO: KF4FHS CBA OR KF4FHS@YWAVE.COM.
-->W3HF/QRP, 10-17 AUGUST, BOGUE BANKS IS, NC (IOTA NA-112), 20-10M
CONTACT INFO: W3HF CBA OR W3HF@ARRL.NET.


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Re: 80m Autumn Sprint

Richard B Drake
 

Do you have a 40 meter long attic :-) How about letting the ends
of a half wave dipole dangle down from the vents at each end of
the attic?

73, Rich - W3ZJ

-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen J. Melachrinos [mailto:w3hf@arrl.net]
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2002 9:35 PM
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [070] 80m Autumn Sprint


Me too. Anyone have any ideas for something that will
fit in an attic?

Steve
W3HF


Uhmm! I'll have to get an 80 meter antenna up eh!
Love it :) Ernie

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bernie" <kf4fhs@ywave.com>
To: <070@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2002 3:10 AM
Subject: [070] 80m Autumn Sprint


The PODXS 070 Club is proud to announce the first
ever 80 meter PSK
31 Autumn Sprint.
------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor

THE FOLLOWING APE STATIONS ARE SCHEDULED TO BE ON THE AIR:
-->KF4FHS/KD7ORS, 2-4 AUGUST, VASHON IS, WA (USI WA060S), 30-10M
CONTACT INFO: KF4FHS CBA OR KF4FHS@YWAVE.COM.
-->W3HF/QRP, 10-17 AUGUST, BOGUE BANKS IS, NC (IOTA
NA-112), 20-10M
CONTACT INFO: W3HF CBA OR W3HF@ARRL.NET.


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Re: 80m Autumn Sprint

Steve W3HF
 

Me too. Anyone have any ideas for something that will fit in an attic?

Steve
W3HF

Uhmm! I'll have to get an 80 meter antenna up eh! Love it :) Ernie

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bernie" <kf4fhs@ywave.com>
To: <070@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2002 3:10 AM
Subject: [070] 80m Autumn Sprint


The PODXS 070 Club is proud to announce the first ever 80 meter PSK
31 Autumn Sprint.


Re: 80m Autumn Sprint

Ernest Mills <emills@...>
 

Uhmm! I'll have to get an 80 meter antenna up eh! Love it :) Ernie

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bernie" <kf4fhs@ywave.com>
To: <070@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2002 3:10 AM
Subject: [070] 80m Autumn Sprint


The PODXS 070 Club is proud to announce the first ever 80 meter PSK 31
Autumn Sprint.

Date-- 20 - September - 2002

For a complete list of rules go to:

http://www.angelfire.com/folk/leonards/80mrules.html

Please read the rules carefully, and take note of the scoring. Power
multipliers will be used in this Sprint.

Direct any questions to kf4fhs@ywave.com

73, Bernie / KF4FHS



THE FOLLOWING APE STATIONS ARE SCHEDULED TO BE ON THE AIR:
-->KF4FHS/KD7ORS, 2-4 AUGUST, VASHON IS, WA (USI WA060S), 30-10M
CONTACT INFO: KF4FHS CBA OR KF4FHS@YWAVE.COM.
-->W3HF/QRP, 10-17 AUGUST, BOGUE BANKS IS, NC (IOTA NA-112), 20-10M
CONTACT INFO: W3HF CBA OR W3HF@ARRL.NET.


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DX Endorsements mailed

N3DQU@...
 

Endorsements mailed today July 20 for OK2FB, OK2SPD and JA9LX. I am
getting caught up, honest :o) 73 de Jay N3DQU.


Re: 80m Autumn Sprint

AA8QQJMauch@...
 

Hey Steve & Ernie,
How about a dummy load with an 8' whip sticking out of it? That oughta fit
in an attic. Might even put a few mW out on the air (with a kW in). Hey
Bernie, would that be considered QRP? Less than 5 watts out into the air
from the system.
Other than that, an 80 meter sprint sounds like a good time to check out some
of these wires hangin around here. When's the 160 meter sprint?

73 de Jay - AA8QQ


Re: Fieldday

Steve W3HF
 

Hello,
this weekend we have the Summer-Youth-Fieldday and today afternoon
I'll demonstrate 'digital modes'. Perhaps you can call in? Callsign is
DL0MT. Homepage is http://sfd.jugendfieldday.de -

CU 73's de Dieter - DL2RR


Dieter -

I will try to be on for you. I think you said you will be using your
PSK-20. If I hear you, I will try to use mine also.

73,
Steve
W3HF
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THE FOLLOWING APE STATIONS ARE SCHEDULED TO BE ON THE AIR:
-->KF4FHS/KD7ORS, 2-4 AUGUST, VASHON IS, WA (USI WA060S), 30-10M
CONTACT INFO: KF4FHS CBA OR KF4FHS@YWAVE.COM.
-->W3HF/QRP, 10-17 AUGUST, BOGUE BANKS IS, NC (IOTA NA-112), 20-10M
CONTACT INFO: W3HF CBA OR W3HF@ARRL.NET.


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GAZETTE Newsletter

N3DQU@...
 

Subj: GAZETTE NL#126A
Date: 7/20/2002 9:35:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time
From: mortjame@westnet.com
To: Newsletter@coolwebstuff.com, Readers@coolwebstuff.com

GAZETTE Newsletter #126A

There has been so much input from #126, it seemed appropriate to send a brief
follow-up in order to bring all up to date.

1. Contesting software for PSK31: Jan WB6VRN suggests anyone interested look
at http://pages.cthome.net/n1mm/.

2. Bill NA2M reminds me that the Synergenics address is www.synergenics.net.
(How can I read that on my original note and yet type .com???)

3. Steve K4CJX updates us on Winlink2000. It isn't Pactor II at all. Steve
says the binary protocol is F6FBB which is copyable using Airmail. It is
there for
the voyeur!

4. It's official! Many (!) offered evidence that the ARRL newsletter let it
be known that P5 is now an official DXCC entity. Thanks all.

I've changed the NL copy on the GAZETTE site by the way.

73 de Jim N2HOS


Fieldday

Dieter, DL2RR <dl2rr@...>
 

Hello,
this weekend we have the Summer-Youth-Fieldday and today afternoon I'll
demonstrate 'digital modes'. Perhaps you can call in? Callsign is DL0MT.
Homepage is http://sfd.jugendfieldday.de -

CU 73's de Dieter - DL2RR


80m Autumn Sprint

Bernie <kf4fhs@...>
 

The PODXS 070 Club is proud to announce the first ever 80 meter PSK 31
Autumn Sprint.

Date-- 20 - September - 2002

For a complete list of rules go to:

http://www.angelfire.com/folk/leonards/80mrules.html

Please read the rules carefully, and take note of the scoring. Power
multipliers will be used in this Sprint.

Direct any questions to kf4fhs@ywave.com

73, Bernie / KF4FHS