Date   

My Dad

Steve W3HF
 

Please forgive the off-topic post, but so many of you have expressed
your good wishes that I felt it was easier to update everyone
collectively.

Dad had a leaky coronary valve, and the doctors went in not sure if
they would be able to repair it, or if they would have to replace it
completely. They found his heart in very good condition for a 73-year-
old, and were able to successfully repair it. (The doctors felt this
was much better, as there is no chance for rejection if they used his
own tissue.)

Surgery started at about 9:00 this morning (1300z), and he was in the
recovery room as of 2:00 local time (1800z), still sedated. We were
able to see him, but he was still not yet conscious. We'll be heading
back to the hospital in an hour or so.

Thanks again for your concern.

Steve
W3HF


Re: W3HF/3

John Durbin <durbinsjz@...>
 

Steve,

I hope your dad has a fast recovery from his surgery

Chris KC8LJN

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Melachrinos" <w3hf@arrl.net>
To: <070@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 10:55 AM
Subject: [070] W3HF/3


If any of you who worked me while I was in DE would like a paper QSL,
please send me an email. I'm working on a design for the card, but
last night's effort was less than satisfactory.

There's no need to send me a card yourself as I think I've worked you
all before on 20m, and I don't intend to work towards WAS from DE.

Also, I'll ask you to be a little patient for a week or so, as I will
be QRT and away from home for a while. My dad is having open-heart
surgery tomorrow in NJ, and I will spend some time there with my mom
and a few siblings.

73,
Steve
W3HF

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Re: W3HF/3

Ernest Mills <emills@...>
 

Hi Steve,
Our thoughts are will ya! and your family. 73 my friend, Ernie


Re: W3HF/3

Bernie <kf4fhs@...>
 

My dad is having open-heart
surgery tomorrow in NJ, and I will spend some time >there with my mom and a
few siblings.

Hey Steve,

Melonie and I would like to send our hopes for a speedy recovery, to your
Dad, and all our best to you and the rest of your family.

73, Bernie / KF4FHS


W3HF/3

Steve W3HF
 

If any of you who worked me while I was in DE would like a paper QSL,
please send me an email. I'm working on a design for the card, but
last night's effort was less than satisfactory.

There's no need to send me a card yourself as I think I've worked you
all before on 20m, and I don't intend to work towards WAS from DE.

Also, I'll ask you to be a little patient for a week or so, as I will
be QRT and away from home for a while. My dad is having open-heart
surgery tomorrow in NJ, and I will spend some time there with my mom
and a few siblings.

73,
Steve
W3HF

P.S. Jay8QQ, you're already on the list. No need for even an email.


Re: W3HF/3

N3DQU@...
 

In a message dated 9/10/2002 10:56:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time, w3hf@arrl.net
writes:

My dad is having open-heart
surgery tomorrow in NJ, and I will spend some time there with my mom
and a few siblings.
Hey Steve, here's to a successful operation and a quick recovery for your
dad...Best 73 de Jay N3DQU.


Re: W3HF/3

AA8QQJMauch@...
 

Steve,
Thanks, and Best of luck to tour dad.

73,
Jay - AA8QQ


Wales 0n 17

AA8QQJMauch@...
 

Hi All,
If anyone is looking for Wales for their UK endorsement, GW4MVA is on
18.101.500 right now.
73,
Jay - AA8QQ


PMBO - Winlink

Camilo Castillo <hp1ac@...>
 

Hi Jay AA8QQ:
A couple of months ago our local club have to move a 17 meter 2 watt beacon (HP1AVS/B) from 18.107 mHz
because WINLINK group claimed that the unnecessary beacon was interfering with the safety of their subscribers
on that QRG and their safety was in risk. We even wrote FCC about this claimed frequency for e-mail traffic but
ended moving the 2 watt beacon to 18.098 mHz.

73 Cam HP1AC
070 #219


UT5RP PSK31 DX Notes #149

N3DQU@...
 

SB PSK31 @ WW $PSKDX149
UT5RP PSK31 DX Notes #149

QST de UT5RP
PSK31 DX Notes #149 $PSKDX149
From UT5RP Radio Shack
Odessa Ukraine, September 9, 2002
To all PSK31 DXers

UT5RP PSK31 DX Notes for past week Sep 2-8, 2002 (BID PSKDX149)

Our Thanks this week go to: Ohio/Penn DX Bull., VK2SG RTTY DX-Gang,
UT5FB and OH2AQ's DX Summit

BANDPASS:*****Freq=Real Freq in USB Mode @1000Hz
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
UTC---Freq---DX-----------INFO
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sep 2
0225-14071.4 HK3GXI
0333-14071.0 LU1DOW
0510-14070.1 CO2DT
0520-14070.0 LU5ARX
0622-14071.3 KL7XL
0910-21071.5 VU2RBI YL Op.
0958-14070.8 RA0FX
1029-14070.7 VK3BD
1526-21070.0 GU4YBW IOTA EU-114
1652-21071.3 VU2SWS
1754-18101.0 GW4MVA
1758-14070.4 EA3/DF8BZ/P
1800-14070.7 3Z0AK
1836-21070.5 PJ2MI
1857-10140.5 IZ4CZL
1930-21070.6 SV4AQJ
2038-14070.0 FR5AB
2110-14070.2 PY7XC

Sep 3
0436-14070.3 TG9BD
0506-14070.8 6J1YJL
0508-14070.0 DL4NCF/HI9
0509-14070.4 HP8AJT
0533-14069.9 TG9SM
0547-14069.6 VK5OA
0551-14069.8 ES3RM
1448-21069.6 GD3FXN
1451-14070.4 IS0FBK
1512-21070.4 EA6/DL2KE
1515-28120.0 ZS1AK
1528-14069.7 OE/DL2DBI/P
1548-21070.0 SV5/IK2WZD
1553-21070.0 LW6EGF
1600-21071.4 BD8SN
1620-14071.3 UA0AET
1621-14069.7 4K5D
1635-14070.8 IS0AX QSL > IS0LFZ
1637-21070.0 GU4YBW
1638-21071.9 ZS2BWB
1639-21070.9 LU6DEZ
1640-14070.0 EA/G4NJC
1648-14070.2 FR5HA
1728-28120.1 CX5UR
1730-14071.3 9H4JB
1801-28120.0 LU9MBJ
1802-28120.1 HK3SVP
1814-21070.8 PY2NGM
1815-21070.0 IS0AX Special Call
1818-28120.5 LU6HPF
1819-28120.4 LU5ENM
1831-28119.9 LU9ED
1912-14070.6 OX3DB
1924-14070.9 LY2CS
2103-21070.8 6J1YJS

Sep 4
0512-14069.9 FK8FL
0525-14071.0 9H4CM QSL Direct with SAE + 1$
0627-14069.7 DL/W4GKR
0708-14070.6 EU7SH
1000-21069.8 VU2RBI
1158-14079.0 OJ0LA
1304-14070.0 FR5HA
1506-21070.3 5R8FL
1554-21070.0 YC1DYY
1627-21070.0 VU2SWS
1637-14069.9 4K5D
1646-21070.1 HS0ZBS
1905-14070.0 F5RRS
1906-21070.3 LU9EV
1909-21070.1 K8UC
1925-14070.8 GW3LEW
1926-28121.3 LU9HPQ
2113-14225.0 VO1HT
2222-14070.9 CO2AV

Sep 5
0148-14071.2 HK6DOS
0503-14069.7 HK3JRL
1210-14070.4 DL/W4GKR
1310-28120.0 ZS1OLI
1328-28120.0 CX5HO
1347-14069.8 3Z0AIR
1422-28121.5 PJ2MI
1424-28120.1 CX5UR
1425-28120.0 CA2WUI
1425-28120.3 LU5ENM
1426-28120.5 PJ2MI
1515-21069.6 ZS6AVP
1516-21069.8 5R8FL
1517-28120.0 ZS1WC
1549-28120.9 PY7TK
1549-28120.9 EA5/DL1KVN
1554-21069.8 GI0WHI
1606-21070.5 IS0YOK
1607-21070.8 YE1D
1814-21070.1 EU7AW
1816-28119.9 CA2WUI
1817-28120.0 GU4YBW
1824-10140.0 F6IRF
1955-14070.5 IS0YOK
1957-14069.9 TA7T
1958-21069.9 V51GB
1959-28120.3 LU4JHD
2221- 7036.3 VK6HD
2236-21070.1 CO8LY

Sep 6
0212-14070.0 OE1KTS
0528-14069.9 HR1HCP
0705-21069.2 VK3BD
1124-28120.0 FR5AB
1132-28119.6 4Z4DX
1155-21070.0 CO8LY
1221-21070.0 ZS6AVP
1302-28120.0 LU5ENM
1310-28120.0 CP6EB
1427-28119.8 VK4VHD
1511-21070.0 CO2XZ
1628-28120.0 YK1AO
1644-21069.7 UN8PO
1645-21070.5 DU9HKD
1709-28119.8 W9IT
1729-28119.8 K8NI
1756-28119.5 LW9DV
2005-14070.1 3Z0AK Special Event Station
2319-28120.0 ZW100J Special Call
0010- 7080.0 N1NW Lighthouse #542
0132-28120.0 ZW100J Special Call
0151- 7070.0 ZW100J Special Call
0258-14071.9 XQ1IDM

Sep 7
0302-21025.9 XQ1IDM
0304-21285.1 XQ1IDM
0309-14070.0 HR1HCP
0326-14070.0 PT8DX
0344-14070.0 6J1KOF
0352-14070.0 FK8GX
0418-14071.4 ZL4AFM
0419-14070.8 PT8DX
0420-14070.9 CE3WR
0420-14070.9 XQ1IDM
0421-14071.0 PY7ZZ
0428-14070.8 PP2MR
0721-14071.0 V51GB
0736-21070.1 VK3BD
0834-21070.0 PT8DX
0841-21070.0 ZW7NDG
0947-21070.7 UN7GDL
1005-21121.0 BX4AAC
1012-28120.0 BX4AAC
1014-28120.3 V51GB
1025-21070.0 JT1FBB QSL > W9JOE
1126-28120.1 CX5UR
1223-14070.0 VK3BGH
1231-14069.6 VK3BD
1345-21071.4 VU2SWS
1346-21070.1 CU3URA
1350-28120.9 PT8DX
1353-28120.8 PJ2MI
1510-28120.0 LU1HK
1708-14070.3 FR5HA
1709-14070.4 3Z0AK
1737-10141.3 PA3BXL
1759-14070.0 CU3URA
1806- 3582.8 SP9RJT
1851-21071.5 SV5DZR
1857-28120.0 XQ5CL
1903-28120.3 CX5UR
2000-28120.7 CP6EB
2054-21069.5 PY3NZ
2153- 7035.3 PY5XT
2245-21070.0 L59EOC
2359-14072.5 HP1DCP

Sep 8
0002-14072.5 ZW7NDG
0240-14072.2 XQ1IDM
0253-14070.0 K6E Route 66 special call
0552-14070.0 AY5FT
0720-14070.5 TG9SM
0731-14070.6 VK4GP
0755-14070.2 FM5BW
0847-14072.0 CX2PI
1146-14070.0 FR5HA
1328-21070.2 SV5DDP
1450-10140.3 ES1AJ
1526-10141.8 SP8AQA
1557-28122.0 HP1BSL
1624-21070.4 ZS1KWV
1625-14070.1 CN8LI
1630-14070.0 4K5D
1747-21070.0 9G1UW
1749-21070.1 AD5CO
1800-21070.8 A22BP
1826-14070.4 UN8PO
1956-14071.0 3G5A

Always a lot of 9A, UA, UR, UT, DL, F, HA, OK, I, G, GI, LA, GW, OH,
SP, ON, EA, SM, S5, SV, YO, LA, LU, PY, W, JA, OE, HB and many other
countries on the Bands.

---
Notes of interest:

EA8 -CANARY ISLANDS. Robert/F6BED, Gerard/F5YD and Roger/F6BDE will be
active from September 15-27th as EA8/homecall from several Canary
Islands (AF-004), as follow:
September 16-18th - from Hierro Island, (Diploma Islas Espanolas)
DIE S015
September 20-23rd - from La Gomera Island, DIE S014
September 25-27th - from Tenerife Island, DIE S012
Activity will be on 40/20/15/10/6/2 meters on CW/SSB/PSK31 and
other digital modes. QSL via their home callsigns direct or through
the French REF Bureau. [TNX OPDX]

FS - FRENCH ST. MARTIN. Look for Ann/W2AZK, Brian/KF2HC, Gene/K2KJI,
Maryann/K2RVH, Bob/W5GJ and Mike/WA2VUN to sign FS/homecall from
December 4-11th. The group hopes to have 2 stations on HF and 1
station on 6 meters. Operations will be CW, SSB, and possibly some
PSK31. They plan to participate in the ARRL 160M Contest that
weekend. QSL to the callsign worked. Visit the following Web page
for up-to-date information at: http://www.njdxa.org [TNX OPDX]

HI9 -DOMINICAN REPUBLIC. Members of the Florida DXPedition Group
(FDXPG), Bill/W4WX (W4WX/HI9), Clarence/W9AAZ (W9AAZ/HI9), Cory/
N1WON (N1WON/HI9), and Bob/K9MDO (K9MDO/HI9) will be active from
here October 22-30th. They will be a Multi-Single entry in the CQWW
Contest. The callsign HI9X will be used during contest. Look for
them on all bands, including 6 meters, on CW, SSB, PSK-31, and RTTY
before and after the contest. QSL HI9X via W9AAZ and xxxx/HI9 to
their home callsign. Pilot station will be manned by Roger, K9RB
at: k9rb@arrl.net [TNX OPDX]

KP2 -U.S. VIRGIN ISLANDS. Members of the STARS radio club will operate
from St. Croix (NA-106) during their anniversary tour using the
callsign K9V from December 2-8th. Operators will be Joe/WF9V,
William/WW9WW, Ron/W7FLE, Stacey/WG9J and Tom/W9AEB. Activity will
be on 160-6 meters CW/SSB/PSK. QSL via WF9V. [TNX OPDX]

SV4 -GREECE. Gabi, HA3JB, will be active as SV4/HA3JB between October
11-19th. He will be operating on CW, RTTY, PSK31, and SSTV on the
following planned frequencies: PSK31 - 14070, 21070, and 28120;
RTTY - 14083, 21083, and 28083; SSTV - 14227, 21343, and 28683 kHz.
80 and 40 meter activity is also planned. QSL to home call.
[TNX OPDX]

SV9- CRETE. The following received from Uli, DJ9XB: Once again I fly
to Crete/SV9 for holiday and to take part in this years CQ WW RTTY
Contest (J49XB). Before the contest, I try to be active on the WARC
bands in RTTY, PSK31 and Hell (SV9/DJ9XB). [TNX RTDX]

YV4 -VENEZUELA. Dario, YV4GMG, in Santa Cruz informs OPDX that he is
active on 6 meters (on 50110 kHz) as well as 20/15/10 meters. On
HF, he can also be active on PSK31/SSTV/RTTY/MMT63/AMTOR. QSL via
his home callsign. Also active from the same station is Hector/
YV4GMH and Maria/YV4GMB. [TNX OPDX]

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PSK Squelch Function

Steve W3HF
 

I'm curious how many of you use the squelch function that's built
into many (if not all) PSK programs.

If you do, I'd like to know how you choose its settings.

Feel free to reply off-list to w3hf(at)arrl.net.

Steve
W3HF


Re: W3HF/3 Alert!!!

AA8QQJMauch@...
 

Jack and Bernie,

First off, thanks for the history lesson. I did learn a few things from
reading it.

Second. I have heard some of these PMBO guys saying that no matter what
happens, they are NOT going to remove 14.070 from their frequency list even
though the powers that be say they should. These are the jerks I was
referring to. I remember one of them was a South American op with an HK
call.

Third, I have never used any of those systems. I live in a more populous
area of the country, and I guess like most people who don't live in the
frontier lands, I take for granted having a phone line, and all those
accursed telemarketers (bet you don't have to tolerate them). I do know from
experience that they are automated and that they DON'T look to see if a freq
is in use by another, also licensed, mode or apparently care for that matter.
My point was simply that these services should be required to look before
they just jump in and trash the whole band. I agree that Peter could have
done a better job of choosing a frequency for PSK, but being that he is from
a more populous area of the world, maybe he didn't use those services either.
Ham radio isn't supposed to be just about "ME, ME, ME" all the time. I have
not yet invested $10,000.00 in my station, but when I do, can I stake a claim
on "MY" frequency? I doubt it. Even if the F.C.C. ever did get some false
teeth.

73,
Jay - AA8QQ


Re: WV

AA8QQJMauch@...
 

Chris,
Tnx for the good spot. It got me the last one. Thanks agn.

73,
Jay - AA8QQ


Re: W3HF/3 Alert!!!

Bernie <kf4fhs@...>
 

Jack,

I beg to differ with you on a few points.

>However many of the WINLINK stations still scan for calls in tthe
14.070 area which is what you are complaining about.
Steve K4CJX, http://winlink.org says that the Winlink 2000 PMBO's have
all moved off the 14070 - 14072.5 portion of 20 meters, and in looking at
the Winlink 2000 frequency list,
http://users.iafrica.com/z/zs/zs5s/index_buls.html

it does appear that there are no domestic PMBO's using these frequencies,
and only a couple foreign stations using them.

This tells me a couple of things.
1. The people who scan these frequencies, don't keep their frequency list up
to date, which results in wasted time and spectrum, by scanning frequencies
with no possible hope of connecting.
2. They don't care.

Each winlink reciver continuously "SCANS" 2 OR 3 freqs for 2 or 3 seconds,
on each band 80 thru 10 meters, (including the WARC bands) stopping only
when it copies its call.
True, BUT, the station trying to connect will do so for more like 30
seconds, and if it is transmitting on a frequency no longer used by the
Winlink 2000 system, such as 14070 - 14072.5, of course a connect will not
be made, and it will just quit transmitting, without ID'ing itself. So there
is no way to let the station owner know that it is transmitting on an
frequency no longer used by the system.

These people love the automated systems and the sys-ops
have dumped thousands of dollars to make these systems available for you
and
me so we can have absolutely free email access to the internet where ever
we
can hang an antenna.
I have a little problem accepting the fact, that the amount of money one
spends on their station, should give them anymore right to a frequency, than
anyone else.

Most likely the automated station has been in operation on that freq for a
long time. You need to know what these freqs are so you can find a clear
spot to operate in PSK.
Keyword: Automated. The frequency may be clear when you start your QSO, but
these stations will start transmitting, whether or not there is a PSK, CW,
Phone or any other operator already using that frequency. There is no human
to make sure the frequency is not in use, the machine doesn't know or care.
Also, the length of time a station has been operating, does not give it
exclusive right to that frequency.

I'm sure that Winlink 2000 is a good system, and it has many good uses. I
think most of the problem lies with a few users who don't care enough to
keep their frequency lists updated, thus transmitting on frequencies no
longer used by the system, resulting in unnecessary QRM. So the problem is
not with the Winlink system, but with a few people who "would have that
little respect for the rest of the ham community."

73, Bernie / KF4FHS


----- Original Message -----
From: "JACK WEST" <w7ld@olypen.com>
To: <070@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 10:14 PM
Subject: Re: [070] W3HF/3 Alert!!!


Jay,
This is Jack, W7LD. Your comment about you not understanding how
any ham could have so little respect for the ham community needs some
attention. I don't know how much experience you have had with the HF
digital MBO systems. but believe me they are a life saver for many many
hams
and their life would not be complete without them.
The first auto systems operated in old fashioned RTTY. You simply
got
on freq, gave the system a call, checked for any messages that were
addressed to your call, read them, killed them when through, and it
allowed
you to upload a message for someone else to pick up later.
Those RTTY sytsems gave way to the Amtor systems which offered 100 %
error proof copy. These amtor sytstems worked in a similar way at the
RTTY
BBS.
Then VHF Packet BBS become popular and the added feature that the
messages could be auto relayed across the country to other BBS's for local
pick up and delivery.
Then they made the APLINK auto systems whch married the VHF BBS's
with the HF Amtor boards and these were called APLINKS. This system
became
so popular that they needed a frequency band plan not only for our country
but the whole world. Thus the frequency from 14.060 through 14.080 were
assigned with 14.070 being prime right in the middle. The frequency
scheme
was so well thought out that the west coast APLINKS used only odd
frequencies and the east coast used even freqs and the DX aplinks used
different freqs to minimize qrm amoung the users.
Next came the wonderful AIRMAIL and WINLINK sysytems. The
Aplink
boards converted over to Winlink (Pactor) and used the same freq scheme.
Each winlink reciver continuously "SCANS" 2 OR 3 freqs for 2 or 3 seconds,
on each band 80 thru 10 meters, (including the WARC bands) stopping only
when it copies its call. Then it auto handles the traffic both xmit and
recieve to the user that called in Pactor I, Pactor II, or Pactor III
mode.
The automatic winlink system is the backbone of communication for
most coastal boaters and many many RV-ers who do not have a permanent
residence. This system allows these folks to send / receive email to
anyone on the internet and keep in touch with their friends and families
all
over the world. It is a world wide coordinated system. It is truly
wonderful. All one has to have is a HF ham license, a HF radio, a pactor
capable TNC, a HF antenna, and knowledge of HF propagation so he can
choose
the correct frequency to operate on to span the desired distance at any
particular time of day.
Lovey and I live in the tulies. We waited 15 years for a single
telephone line up here. They wanted $3,000 to bring us a line. We
tried
cell phones but we cant hit the towers so we took them back. However,
Lovey and I sent and received over 3,500 email messages using Winlink.
It
was our life saver to keep in touch via email. I still use the system
and
love it.
Now for the frequency bit. RTTY was there first at 14.080 thru
14.090. The RTTYers didnt like the auto amtor stations in their
territory
so the aplinks took up 14.070 to 14.080. Then with Winlink came more
users
and popularity, that some sys-ops went into the 14.060's.
The QRPers (CW) consider 14.060 area to be theirs.
When Peter came along and introduced PSK 31 mode he suggested
everyone get on 14.070. That was a mistake. I think it should have
been
above the hf packet 14.110 and above. We all know how popular PSK has
become. However many of the WINLINK stations still scan for calls in
tthe
14.070 area which is what you are complaining about.
Band plans are important, and each band has a plan for every mode.
The bands of 10,15, 20, and 40 meters use the same numbers I quoted above
ie. 7.070 and 7.080 etc. On 80 meters you will find the Winlinks from
3.620 thru 3.640. On 30 meters, there will be "NO" Winlink below 10.120,
all are above this frreq..
Other sound card modes are getting popular too. Hellscriber is
usally just below 14.070 in the 14.060's while MFSK is usually at the
bottom
end of the 14.080's. (throb is there too) MT-63 mode is a real problem
as
it is as wide as SSB. You find it above 14.110 where I said the PSK
should
have gone to.
So Jay, imagine the sheer joy of being way out in the blue ocean
on
your sail boat or being on the road for weeks in your big 40 foot
motorhome,
and getting on the air, and sending and receiving email from your friends
and loved ones. These people love the automated systems and the sys-ops
have dumped thousands of dollars to make these systems available for you
and
me so we can have absolutely free email access to the internet where ever
we
can hang an antenna.
I bet you already knew all the above, but how about cutting some
slack for these guys who spend 24 hours trying to serve us and you get
torqued off because you cannot make a qso on a frequency you desire to
operate.
Most likely the automated station has been in operation on that freq for a
long time. You need to know what these freqs are so you can find a clear
spot to operate in PSK.
I am an old fart at age 63, been retired from the gov't for nine
years now, been a licensed ham for 47 yrs, got my extra ticket back in
1968.
Around these parts they call me "Mr. Digital" as I am a HF digital and cw
contester and operate virtually all the HF modes. (except fast scan tv)
You can see me and my station on qrz.com. I have about $10,000 worth of
equipment in here.
Vy best 73 to you Jay...
Keep up the good work and enthusiasm...
de W7LD / JACK / LUCKY??? DOG



----- Original Message -----
From: <AA8QQJMauch@aol.com>
To: <070@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 17:42 PM
Subject: Re: [070] W3HF/3 Alert!!!


rr Chris.
I didn't see him on 30 either. Just those cursed MBO's. Hard to
believe
any
ham would have that little respect for the rest of the ham community.

Hey Steve, thanks for DE on 40. Guess now I gotta quit rattlin your
cage...
naw.
But hopefully someday I'll get to do someone a favor.

73,
Jay - AA8QQ


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Re: W3HF/3 Alert!!!

JACK WEST <w7ld@...>
 

Jay,
This is Jack, W7LD. Your comment about you not understanding how
any ham could have so little respect for the ham community needs some
attention. I don't know how much experience you have had with the HF
digital MBO systems. but believe me they are a life saver for many many hams
and their life would not be complete without them.
The first auto systems operated in old fashioned RTTY. You simply got
on freq, gave the system a call, checked for any messages that were
addressed to your call, read them, killed them when through, and it allowed
you to upload a message for someone else to pick up later.
Those RTTY sytsems gave way to the Amtor systems which offered 100 %
error proof copy. These amtor sytstems worked in a similar way at the RTTY
BBS.
Then VHF Packet BBS become popular and the added feature that the
messages could be auto relayed across the country to other BBS's for local
pick up and delivery.
Then they made the APLINK auto systems whch married the VHF BBS's
with the HF Amtor boards and these were called APLINKS. This system became
so popular that they needed a frequency band plan not only for our country
but the whole world. Thus the frequency from 14.060 through 14.080 were
assigned with 14.070 being prime right in the middle. The frequency scheme
was so well thought out that the west coast APLINKS used only odd
frequencies and the east coast used even freqs and the DX aplinks used
different freqs to minimize qrm amoung the users.
Next came the wonderful AIRMAIL and WINLINK sysytems. The Aplink
boards converted over to Winlink (Pactor) and used the same freq scheme.
Each winlink reciver continuously "SCANS" 2 OR 3 freqs for 2 or 3 seconds,
on each band 80 thru 10 meters, (including the WARC bands) stopping only
when it copies its call. Then it auto handles the traffic both xmit and
recieve to the user that called in Pactor I, Pactor II, or Pactor III mode.
The automatic winlink system is the backbone of communication for
most coastal boaters and many many RV-ers who do not have a permanent
residence. This system allows these folks to send / receive email to
anyone on the internet and keep in touch with their friends and families all
over the world. It is a world wide coordinated system. It is truly
wonderful. All one has to have is a HF ham license, a HF radio, a pactor
capable TNC, a HF antenna, and knowledge of HF propagation so he can choose
the correct frequency to operate on to span the desired distance at any
particular time of day.
Lovey and I live in the tulies. We waited 15 years for a single
telephone line up here. They wanted $3,000 to bring us a line. We tried
cell phones but we cant hit the towers so we took them back. However,
Lovey and I sent and received over 3,500 email messages using Winlink. It
was our life saver to keep in touch via email. I still use the system and
love it.
Now for the frequency bit. RTTY was there first at 14.080 thru
14.090. The RTTYers didnt like the auto amtor stations in their territory
so the aplinks took up 14.070 to 14.080. Then with Winlink came more users
and popularity, that some sys-ops went into the 14.060's.
The QRPers (CW) consider 14.060 area to be theirs.
When Peter came along and introduced PSK 31 mode he suggested
everyone get on 14.070. That was a mistake. I think it should have been
above the hf packet 14.110 and above. We all know how popular PSK has
become. However many of the WINLINK stations still scan for calls in tthe
14.070 area which is what you are complaining about.
Band plans are important, and each band has a plan for every mode.
The bands of 10,15, 20, and 40 meters use the same numbers I quoted above
ie. 7.070 and 7.080 etc. On 80 meters you will find the Winlinks from
3.620 thru 3.640. On 30 meters, there will be "NO" Winlink below 10.120,
all are above this frreq..
Other sound card modes are getting popular too. Hellscriber is
usally just below 14.070 in the 14.060's while MFSK is usually at the bottom
end of the 14.080's. (throb is there too) MT-63 mode is a real problem as
it is as wide as SSB. You find it above 14.110 where I said the PSK should
have gone to.
So Jay, imagine the sheer joy of being way out in the blue ocean on
your sail boat or being on the road for weeks in your big 40 foot motorhome,
and getting on the air, and sending and receiving email from your friends
and loved ones. These people love the automated systems and the sys-ops
have dumped thousands of dollars to make these systems available for you and
me so we can have absolutely free email access to the internet where ever we
can hang an antenna.
I bet you already knew all the above, but how about cutting some
slack for these guys who spend 24 hours trying to serve us and you get
torqued off because you cannot make a qso on a frequency you desire to
operate.
Most likely the automated station has been in operation on that freq for a
long time. You need to know what these freqs are so you can find a clear
spot to operate in PSK.
I am an old fart at age 63, been retired from the gov't for nine
years now, been a licensed ham for 47 yrs, got my extra ticket back in 1968.
Around these parts they call me "Mr. Digital" as I am a HF digital and cw
contester and operate virtually all the HF modes. (except fast scan tv)
You can see me and my station on qrz.com. I have about $10,000 worth of
equipment in here.
Vy best 73 to you Jay...
Keep up the good work and enthusiasm...
de W7LD / JACK / LUCKY??? DOG

----- Original Message -----
From: <AA8QQJMauch@aol.com>
To: <070@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 17:42 PM
Subject: Re: [070] W3HF/3 Alert!!!


rr Chris.
I didn't see him on 30 either. Just those cursed MBO's. Hard to believe
any
ham would have that little respect for the rest of the ham community.

Hey Steve, thanks for DE on 40. Guess now I gotta quit rattlin your
cage...
naw.
But hopefully someday I'll get to do someone a favor.

73,
Jay - AA8QQ


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Re: WV

brmccain <brmccain@...>
 

--- In 070@y..., "John Durbin" <durbinsjz@s...> wrote:
Jay,

If you are around there is a guy fro West Virginia on 40 right now.

Chris KC8LJN

Jim, KE8YB, in Shady Spring, West Virginia, is on 14.070 right now
with good signal to Oregon.

de Bruce, N7XB


One Other Thing

Steve W3HF
 

I also need to thank my wife Peggy for all her help in this trip. She:

1. Helped me mow the lawn yesterday, so I'd have free time this
afternoon.

2. Prepared a care package of food for me to take on the trip.

3. Made an unscheduled trip back home to send that email to all of
you. (She had just left to take the kids out to dinner, and went
back home to pass along the news quickly.)

Thanks, Peggy, for everything.

Steve


WV

John Durbin <durbinsjz@...>
 

Jay,

If you are around there is a guy fro West Virginia on 40 right now.

Chris KC8LJN


W3HF/3--the REST of the story

Steve W3HF
 

Well I'm home now, and I can let you all know what happened on
the trip. Unlike the North Carolina APE, when everything seemed to
go right, this one was a bit more difficult.

It started with an accident along the main highway I took to DE.
Fortunately I wasn't an active participant, but the resulting traffic
added 15-20 minutes to the drive time.

So I arrived at the first park (of three I had seen on maps) at about
2:05 (1805z). And I discovered that it wasn't really a park. There
was a field there, but I couldn't find any entrances, and no place to
park a vehicle that looked legal. So I was off to the next place.

The second park was a real park, but the gates were locked. It
seemed to be set up with soccer fields, but the entrance was
impassable. So on to the next option.

I had passed signs for a state park, so I followed them to
Brandywine State Park. This was a real park, with parking places
and everything. But it was in a valley, along the banks of the
Brandywine River. So it didn't seem to be a great location for radio
operations.

I finally set up in a small parking lot where some riding trails
crossed one of the roads in the area. This worked well, and I might
even consider returning there some time, if I can't find a better
place. I did end up moving the antenna after a while, so I could get
the radials out of the traffic pattern I had observed.

I was finally set up and on the air around 1835z. Heard nothing on
40m for that quarter hour. Moved to 15m at 1845, and heard a W6
and CP6EWB CQing. But neither responded.

Moved to 20m at 1900z. Lots of signals there, but no one
responded to my calls. Went on to 30m at 1915z--no signals
observed. Went to 40m at 1930, and saw AA8QQ and KC8LJN
wondering where I was. I finally was able to get Jay to see me, but
there wasn't enough copy for a QSO (as he had reported). We tried
15m with no copy either. After a quick phone call, I moved on to
20m and the QRP ARCI contest.

That went miserably for the first 90 minutes. I heard lots of signals,
but no one was responding. I finally decided I needed to do
something different.

Side Note: One of the compromises made with the very portable
radios is that many of the functions are menu-driven. The FT-817
can do lots of things, but it only has about 7.5 square inches of
front panel, and that has to include the tuning and volume knobs,
and the on-off switch. So there are no dedicated meters, and most
functions are accessible by digging into the menus.

So dig I did, and I finally found a way to display SWR on the LCD
screen, and it was going off-scale! I checked the connections, and
then started playing with the antenna. It turns out that a week on
the North Carolina beach had caused the alligator clip on the
loading coil to corrode, and it wasn't making good contact with the
coil taps. (I'm not sure if this was only on 20m, or if it affected all
bands.) After a little scraping and rubbing, the SWR was displaying
down in the "low-enough" region, and I was finally on the air. By
that time it was 2135z--I had missed 40% of the contest.

I ended up with 12 contest QSOs on 20m, including ones with five
070 members. (Thanks guys.) This wasn't the result I had hoped
for, but I'm optimistic that I will have the highest score from
Delaware!

And finally, on schedule, I was able to complete the QSO with
AA8QQ on 40m. Couldn't hear anything on 30m, but he was
already in the log.

My apologies to all of you who were looking for me on one band or
the other and couldn't find me. I hope to do this again some time,
hopefully with better results.

I took a few photos of the setup, and will put at least one of them
on the QSL card I'll send out to anyone interested.

73,
Steve
W3HF


Re: W3HF/3 Alert!!!

John Durbin <durbinsjz@...>
 

Good job Jay, I saw you on 30 but I never did see Steve. Now all you need is
WV

Chris KC8LJN

----- Original Message -----
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To: <070@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 20:14 PM
Subject: [070] W3HF/3 Alert!!!


Hi All,
Just worked Steve (2 way this time) on 40.
Going to try 30 now.
73,
Jay -- AA8QQ


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