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Re: 6 meter Aurora QPSK anyone?

Peter Baskind <pbaskind@...>
 

Some say it would be impossible to work. Maybe. Who knows for sure until
we try?

Well, I am one of the sceptics... but, I am always willing to try,
especially on 6m.

Wacky day for 6m... HC8GR in 20 over 9 earlier; now Au. Cool.

PB


Re: 6 meter Aurora QPSK anyone?

Peter Baskind <pbaskind@...>
 

Hi Peter, Any sign of my trace?
Jay - 8QQ
Not a darn thing, sadly.

What little Au I was seeing (and it made it into 2m) didn't last long. You
probably need someone a bit further North.

Fun to try, though. My first time to hear Au; it does sound wierd, doesn't
it?

Sorry.

PB/EM55


Re: 6 meter Aurora QPSK anyone?

Steve W3HF
 

Hi All,
6 meters is open with strong (SSB) sigs now. Anyone wanna try for the
first QPSK aurora contact?

I'm out here now, beamed north at 75 watts. on 50.291.0

73,
Jay - AA8QQ
Jay -

I'd be very surprised if you could make a successful PSK contact
using auroral propagation. I think aurora would have significant
phase distortion. In fact, I think that may be part of the "ghosty"
sound quality that is heard on the SSB signals.

The problem is that the P in PSK stands for Phase, so phase
distortion will destroy the information in the signal. It would be like
the strong polar signals we sometimes see--lots of power, but no
copy because of distortion.

For these channels I would expect MFSK to be much more
effective. MFSK, like the FSK that underlies RTTY, depends only
on receiving power in small frequency bands. Distortion within
those bands doesn't matter, as long as the frequencies are not
shifted. So they are immune to phase-distorted channels.

Steve
W3HF


Re: 6 meter Aurora QPSK anyone?

Peter Baskind <pbaskind@...>
 

Hi All,
6 meters is open with strong (SSB) sigs now. Anyone wanna try
for the first
QPSK aurora contact?

I'm out here now, beamed north at 75 watts. on 50.291.0

73,
Jay - AA8QQ
I'll get set up and give it a try, Jay.

Au has been quite weak this far South, but I'll go look. You call.

Peter Baskind, AG4KI


Re: 6 meter Aurora QPSK anyone?

AA8QQJMauch@...
 

Hey Steve,
How about if we sent it like this?

CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
????????????????????????????

73,
JJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJ
AAAAAAAAAAA
YYYYYYYYYYY

AA8QQ


Re: 6 meter Aurora QPSK anyone?

AA8QQJMauch@...
 

Duly noted Steve.


Re: 6 meter Aurora QPSK anyone?

AA8QQJMauch@...
 

Well, they do call it the magic band. Think I'll send out 75 watt cq's for a
while longer. Hopefully more of our 6 m crowd will check the mail.
Jay - AA8QQ


Re: 6 meter Aurora QPSK anyone?

AA8QQJMauch@...
 

RR that Peter,
I was hoping Chris might be out there. I'd like to get someone to get a
screen capture of it. I'd like to see just how bad it looks. Some say it
would be impossible to work. Maybe. Who knows for sure until we try?

thanks for trying.
73,
Jay - AA8QQ


Re: 6 meter Aurora QPSK anyone?

AA8QQJMauch@...
 

Hi Peter, Any sign of my trace?
Jay - 8QQ


Re: linux & psk31

AA8QQJMauch@...
 

OK Ernie,
Ya talked me into it. I'll take you up on it. How much for the whole
package?
I messed with an earlier ver of LINUX but ever found a driver for the vga
card I had at the time.

Jay - AA8QQ


6 meter Aurora QPSK anyone?

AA8QQJMauch@...
 

Hi All,
6 meters is open with strong (SSB) sigs now. Anyone wanna try for the first
QPSK aurora contact?

I'm out here now, beamed north at 75 watts. on 50.291.0

73,
Jay - AA8QQ


Re: 1st 070 Ambassador Awarded

Ernest Mills <emills@...>
 

Congratulations Karen on your well deserved award. The real spirt lives on.
:) Ernie

Ernest Mills
http://www.qsl.net/wm2u
http://www.wintonian.org


Re: linux & psk31

Dave Kjellquist, WB5NHL
 

Just a couple of additions

Another excellent source of Linux CD's is

http://www.cheapbytes.com

Also, An indispensable reference for Linux is

Running Linux 3rd Ed. by Matt Welsh et al
O'Reilly Publishing

If I had only one book this would be it.

---- 070@yahoogroups.com wrote:
Oh, and if anyone wants to try linux and doesn't
want to download and burn
their own CDs or shell out the bucks for a
commercial distribution at Best
Buy or other distributor, let me know. I'll send
any 070 Club member that
wants 'em a set of CDs for Red Hat 7.3 for the cost
of the media and shipping
...~$1.50.

:) Just let me know off list & I'll send 'em to ya.

Ernie


On Saturday 07 September 2002 07:43 am, Ernest
Stracener wrote:
KPSK when installed as an RPM (say for RedHat,
SuSE, or Mandrake) is only
about 190Kb. The raw sourcecode is about 1Mb.

How much space is needed for linux....that's like
asking how much power is
needed for ham radio. :) There are some
distributions that fit on a
single floppy disk (Debian Ham I think fits this
category) others that
require 1.3Gb or more. I would say if you have
2GB of room on your hard
drive (or on a spare hamfest harddrive that you
got for $1), go for it!
The tiny distributions are likely more difficult
to install, but I don't
know as I've never tried them. The mainstream
RedHat, SuSE, Mandrake, and
Debian have good installation programs that makes
it relatively easy for
anyone to get started.

Even if Windows is taking up the whole drive, the
installation program for
most all linux distributions will
non-destructively resize the Windows
partition to make room for linux. When I first
started w/linux I wasn't
too keen on the idea of messing with my fragile
Windows installation, but I
didn't have any problems and have come to trust
the linux installation
routines. :)

There are plenty of people running linux on old
486's and even some 386's.

I've got to learn to be more brief....folks are
probably dozing off and
getting drool on teh keyboard after all that...HI.

73-
Ernie
kg9ni

On Saturday 07 September 2002 01:06 am,
N3DQU@aol.com wrote:
Well, don't leave us in suspenders Ernie!
Just how much disk space do
you need to run Linux alongside Windows? And how
big is the KPSK program?
Jay N3DQU

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Re: linux & psk31

Ernest Stracener <ds3@...>
 

I guess I should qualify that offer...I don't think I can send my copies
outside the US due to cryptography laws. I'll check on it.

On Saturday 07 September 2002 07:47 am, Ernest Stracener wrote:
Oh, and if anyone wants to try linux and doesn't want to download and burn
their own CDs or shell out the bucks for a commercial distribution at Best
Buy or other distributor, let me know. I'll send any 070 Club member that
wants 'em a set of CDs for Red Hat 7.3 for the cost of the media and
shipping ...~$1.50.

:) Just let me know off list & I'll send 'em to ya.

Ernie


Re: linux & psk31

Dave Kjellquist, WB5NHL
 

I agree with Ernie. 2Gb is a reasonable lower bound
for the common distributions. With 2Gb you can load up
with most of the desireable Linux programs.

There is a significant difference between Unix systems
and Windows systems that starts from their very
gensis. Unix has lots of small programs that do single
functions and does them well. So when you enter a
"command" in Linux unlike Windows, you aren't
commanding a single integrated program, you are
actually starting some code for the function that runs
and then ends. Obviously, efficient multitasking is
need for this work and this has been one of Linux's
hallmarks.

---- 070@yahoogroups.com wrote:
KPSK when installed as an RPM (say for RedHat, SuSE,
or Mandrake) is only
about 190Kb. The raw sourcecode is about 1Mb.

How much space is needed for linux....that's like
asking how much power is
needed for ham radio. :) There are some
distributions that fit on a single
floppy disk (Debian Ham I think fits this category)
others that require 1.3Gb
or more. I would say if you have 2GB of room on
your hard drive (or on a
spare hamfest harddrive that you got for $1), go for
it! The tiny
distributions are likely more difficult to install,
but I don't know as I've
never tried them. The mainstream RedHat, SuSE,
Mandrake, and Debian have
good installation programs that makes it relatively
easy for anyone to get
started.

Even if Windows is taking up the whole drive, the
installation program for
most all linux distributions will non-destructively
resize the Windows
partition to make room for linux. When I first
started w/linux I wasn't too
keen on the idea of messing with my fragile Windows
installation, but I
didn't have any problems and have come to trust the
linux installation
routines. :)

There are plenty of people running linux on old
486's and even some 386's.

I've got to learn to be more brief....folks are
probably dozing off and
getting drool on teh keyboard after all that...HI.

73-
Ernie
kg9ni

On Saturday 07 September 2002 01:06 am,
N3DQU@aol.com wrote:

Well, don't leave us in suspenders Ernie! Just
how much disk space do
you need to run Linux alongside Windows? And how
big is the KPSK program?
Jay N3DQU

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Re: 1st 070 Ambassador Awarded

Don Snider
 

Congrats Karen!
This really did help us out because there was no cell phone
access up in the Boundary Waters. The expedition group was very
impressed to see that we still had a channel open to the world through
ham radio even though there were no signals on their cell phones. They
were even more impressed when she got in contact with me the next day
with a follow-up from the outfitters.

Don
N3MK

-----Original Message-----
From: spdomingue@aol.com [mailto:spdomingue@aol.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 2:47 AM
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [070] 1st 070 Ambassador Awarded

I would like to Congratulate W4GTM Karen as it was reported that you
really out did yourself by helping a fellow ham.

She has been nominated and approved to recieve the FIRST PODXS 070 Club
Ambassadors Award.

Karen worked N3MK when he was ape, asked if she could call his outfitter
es tell him he needed a new water filter.

This is what HAM radio is all about ASKING to help before someone asks,
Great Job Karen.

SteveD
N6YIH/7
Ambassador Award Manager

You can see the rules and what the award is all about on the web page or
go directly to
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Re: 1st 070 Ambassador Awarded

Steve W3HF
 

Congratulations Karen!

Steve
W3HF


Re: linux & psk31

Ernest Stracener <ds3@...>
 

Oh, and if anyone wants to try linux and doesn't want to download and burn
their own CDs or shell out the bucks for a commercial distribution at Best
Buy or other distributor, let me know. I'll send any 070 Club member that
wants 'em a set of CDs for Red Hat 7.3 for the cost of the media and shipping
...~$1.50.

:) Just let me know off list & I'll send 'em to ya.

Ernie

On Saturday 07 September 2002 07:43 am, Ernest Stracener wrote:
KPSK when installed as an RPM (say for RedHat, SuSE, or Mandrake) is only
about 190Kb. The raw sourcecode is about 1Mb.

How much space is needed for linux....that's like asking how much power is
needed for ham radio. :) There are some distributions that fit on a
single floppy disk (Debian Ham I think fits this category) others that
require 1.3Gb or more. I would say if you have 2GB of room on your hard
drive (or on a spare hamfest harddrive that you got for $1), go for it!
The tiny distributions are likely more difficult to install, but I don't
know as I've never tried them. The mainstream RedHat, SuSE, Mandrake, and
Debian have good installation programs that makes it relatively easy for
anyone to get started.

Even if Windows is taking up the whole drive, the installation program for
most all linux distributions will non-destructively resize the Windows
partition to make room for linux. When I first started w/linux I wasn't
too keen on the idea of messing with my fragile Windows installation, but I
didn't have any problems and have come to trust the linux installation
routines. :)

There are plenty of people running linux on old 486's and even some 386's.

I've got to learn to be more brief....folks are probably dozing off and
getting drool on teh keyboard after all that...HI.

73-
Ernie
kg9ni

On Saturday 07 September 2002 01:06 am, N3DQU@aol.com wrote:
Well, don't leave us in suspenders Ernie! Just how much disk space do
you need to run Linux alongside Windows? And how big is the KPSK program?
Jay N3DQU

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Re: linux & psk31

Ernest Stracener <ds3@...>
 

KPSK when installed as an RPM (say for RedHat, SuSE, or Mandrake) is only
about 190Kb. The raw sourcecode is about 1Mb.

How much space is needed for linux....that's like asking how much power is
needed for ham radio. :) There are some distributions that fit on a single
floppy disk (Debian Ham I think fits this category) others that require 1.3Gb
or more. I would say if you have 2GB of room on your hard drive (or on a
spare hamfest harddrive that you got for $1), go for it! The tiny
distributions are likely more difficult to install, but I don't know as I've
never tried them. The mainstream RedHat, SuSE, Mandrake, and Debian have
good installation programs that makes it relatively easy for anyone to get
started.

Even if Windows is taking up the whole drive, the installation program for
most all linux distributions will non-destructively resize the Windows
partition to make room for linux. When I first started w/linux I wasn't too
keen on the idea of messing with my fragile Windows installation, but I
didn't have any problems and have come to trust the linux installation
routines. :)

There are plenty of people running linux on old 486's and even some 386's.

I've got to learn to be more brief....folks are probably dozing off and
getting drool on teh keyboard after all that...HI.

73-
Ernie
kg9ni

On Saturday 07 September 2002 01:06 am, N3DQU@aol.com wrote:

Well, don't leave us in suspenders Ernie! Just how much disk space do
you need to run Linux alongside Windows? And how big is the KPSK program?
Jay N3DQU


Re: 1st 070 Ambassador Awarded

John Durbin <durbinsjz@...>
 

Congratulations Karen on being the first recipient of the Ambassadors Award.

Chris KC8LJN

----- Original Message -----
From: <spdomingue@aol.com>
To: <070@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 2:47 AM
Subject: [070] 1st 070 Ambassador Awarded


I would like to Congratulate W4GTM Karen as it was reported that you
really out did yourself by helping a fellow ham.

She has been nominated and approved to recieve the FIRST PODXS 070 Club
Ambassadors Award.

Karen worked N3MK when he was ape, asked if she could call his outfitter
es tell him he needed a new water filter.

This is what HAM radio is all about ASKING to help before someone asks,
Great Job Karen.

SteveD
N6YIH/7
Ambassador Award Manager

You can see the rules and what the award is all about on the web page or
go directly to
http://podxs.com/html/the_award.HTM




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