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Re: Propagation

Rick - N7WE
 

Some say that from their calculations, Solar Cycle 25 has already begun.  Others report a "reversed polarity" sunspot that confirms a new Solar Cycle.  Some say we haven't reached the solar minimum yet.  Predictions for 25 (when and how much) are (not surprisingly) scattered.  Unfortunately, the Solar Cycle is something that is only revealed in hindsight and the universal truth is that the only reliable prediction is that most predictions will be wrong.  Guess we'll just have to wait it out and jump on any upswing.  But boy am I ready!
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Re: Propagation

Jim K5SP
 

I was on Diego Garcia 76-77, and used 15m late at night, was like being in same room, worked hundreds of stateside stations (was early morning here).   Somewhere I have a box full of QSL cards for contacts.  Was WB6EWH/VQ9. 

Jim K5SP 



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-------- Original message --------
From: Jerry N9AVY <n9avy@...>
Date: 8/20/19 8:59 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Propagation

Saw a photo recently of the Sun which was just a big yellow ball and devoid of any spots. That can’t be good.

 

For those who were around in the 70’s/80’s/90’s when there was decent propagation, it was a great time to be a ham with opening on 10/15/20m to almost all parts of the world.  If I remember even the 50’s and 60’s had great propagation.  Recall reading some stuff about WWII and the propagation was excellent back then as well with shortwave listeners hearing stuff from battlefields as it happened.  In the late 1930’s, there were some stories about people in  the U.S. hearing Amelia Earhart’s plane while it was flying around looking for Howland Island.

 

Based of these reports it would appear that radio propagation was really good in those eras. So, if anyone want to see propagation like that again, they’ll just need to build a time machine and go back, but remember if you take a modern day radio back with you, you may be accused of being a space alien up to no good !  😊

 

There is also a school of thought which believes that all the solar power we use on thi planet is draining the sun … put you tin foil hat on !

 

Jerry  n9avy

 

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From: W5DP
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 8:04 AM
To: 070Club@groupsio
Subject: Re: [070Club] Propagation

 

I read a report about a month ago that said we were at or very near the absolute minimum, which means, that it's almost ready to start it's ascendancy, and I know from past experience, when it starts up, it goes fast. Meaning: probably a year from now we will be seeing some really good conditions. Yes it will be several years to reach maximum, but we don't have to wait for the maximum to get good conditions. 

 


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Re: Propagation

Jerry N9AVY
 

Saw a photo recently of the Sun which was just a big yellow ball and devoid of any spots. That can’t be good.

 

For those who were around in the 70’s/80’s/90’s when there was decent propagation, it was a great time to be a ham with opening on 10/15/20m to almost all parts of the world.  If I remember even the 50’s and 60’s had great propagation.  Recall reading some stuff about WWII and the propagation was excellent back then as well with shortwave listeners hearing stuff from battlefields as it happened.  In the late 1930’s, there were some stories about people in  the U.S. hearing Amelia Earhart’s plane while it was flying around looking for Howland Island.

 

Based of these reports it would appear that radio propagation was really good in those eras. So, if anyone want to see propagation like that again, they’ll just need to build a time machine and go back, but remember if you take a modern day radio back with you, you may be accused of being a space alien up to no good !  😊

 

There is also a school of thought which believes that all the solar power we use on thi planet is draining the sun … put you tin foil hat on !

 

Jerry  n9avy

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: W5DP
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2019 8:04 AM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Propagation

 

I read a report about a month ago that said we were at or very near the absolute minimum, which means, that it's almost ready to start it's ascendancy, and I know from past experience, when it starts up, it goes fast. Meaning: probably a year from now we will be seeing some really good conditions. Yes it will be several years to reach maximum, but we don't have to wait for the maximum to get good conditions. 

 


Re: Propagation

W5DP
 

I read a report about a month ago that said we were at or very near the absolute minimum, which means, that it's almost ready to start it's ascendancy, and I know from past experience, when it starts up, it goes fast. Meaning: probably a year from now we will be seeing some really good conditions. Yes it will be several years to reach maximum, but we don't have to wait for the maximum to get good conditions. 


Re: Propagation

Ray Clements
 

I got my license back in 2013 which was just before the most recent solar maximum in 2014. The next maximum will be somewhere around 2025 with the prediction that it will be similar to the most recent one.... good, but not great. None of us will be alive to see conditions similar to those of the last half of the 20th century unless your name is Methuselah. 

Ray N9RWC


------ Original Message ------
Received: 06:36 AM CDT, 08/20/2019
From: "Bill Maier" <ciric50@...
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To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Propagation


It is frustrating to see no signals at all and to call CQ with no answers. I just started in amateur radio in 2017, so conditions were already poor and I've watched them get even worse. It will be interesting to me to see what conditions are like in 5 or 6 years when there is another maximum.


Re: Propagation

Bill Maier
 

It is frustrating to see no signals at all and to call CQ with no answers. I just started in amateur radio in 2017, so conditions were already poor and I've watched them get even worse. It will be interesting to me to see what conditions are like in 5 or 6 years when there is another maximum.


Re: Propagation

John Kirby
 
Edited

Propagation doldrums...

Don't forget grey line ...

VK2 Karl 100 klicks E of Sydney with 2X/599 then QSB. Setup here 15W 20m 1/2 wave endfed inv V 20ft peak and both ends apx 6ft.

Ever wonder why sun spot doldrums do not affect FT8 frequencies?

72 73
John
N3AAZ
070 1337 / LONP 0349

The "grey line" is a band around the Earth that separates daylight from darkness that ducts radio signals :>)


Re: Propagation

Rick - N7WE
 

Roger that Dusty.  I'm waiting for something to "flare" up - Like maybe just an M-class to stir things up a bit.  Could really use some excited ions up there!
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070 - #1602


Re: Propagation

W5DP
 

Rick, I've been watching the SFI numbers for a while, and they have been very low. SFi been staying within a range from 66 to 68. It's amazing that we're able to do anything at all. Now, the K's and A's having been staying in a good range, so not much attenuation going on. I think that is what's allowing us to still see signals on the waterfall. 

Dusty
W5DP


Re: KK7UQ IMD Meter on eHam

Rick - N7WE
 

Woe John!  I'm very sorry to hear that.  I, along with many others, will miss you on the waterfall!  Any chance for some portable/mobile...just to keep your hand in?
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070 - #1602


Propagation

Rick - N7WE
 

Like most of us these days, yesterday I was staring at mostly empty waterfalls.  Tried them all - 80m thru 15m.  Then I got to wondering - where was the solar cycle during WWII?  So I looked up Cycle 17 and it peaked in 1937 at 198.6 count.  It ended in 1944, but the minimum was above our current minimum.  I wonder how WWII and all the radio technology that came out of it might have been different if the war had coincided with a solar minimum like this one?  OK, back to the empty waterfalls.
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Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602


Re: KK7UQ IMD Meter on eHam

bowerjohn41 <poppajohnbower@...>
 

Having downsized and now in a location not conducive to HF & PSK.
I also am selling my IMD Meter and would be happy to ship it to a US member for
$90.00. Also have a Navigator for Sale.
Best wishes to all
John KE4JB


On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 9:50 AM John - KC3FL via Groups.Io <kc3fl=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
There is also one on EBAY for $90 shipped.  I have one and their great.  Highly recommend for the serious psk user.


Re: KK7UQ IMD Meter on eHam

 

There is also one on EBAY for $90 shipped.  I have one and their great.  Highly recommend for the serious psk user.


Tom...Anybody around??

 

Propagation seems to have a mind of its own from the West coast.
Tom, remember, back in the day, in one of our contests, you and I were working JA's and HL stations on 20m, and N2EOC, Chuck and W4KRN, Karen were working EU stations on 80m?...and all this was happening at the same time!
Anybody else recall those "back in the day" happenings and care to share?
Milt.
N6MG
070-650
Trustee:
W6QP
070-1454

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Sterling <KI7OIY@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io Group Moderators <070Club@groups.io>
Sent: Sun, Aug 18, 2019 6:37 pm
Subject: Re: [070Club] Anybody around??

I got three PSK31 contacts this morning but haven't seen anything since.

KI7OIY
Rick

On Sun, Aug 18, 2019 at 6:06 PM K8TOM <tsingle@...> wrote:
Monitoring 20M off an on since early morning, I don't think I've seen more than a dozen QSOs today.  Pretty quite from my corner of the country.  Had a QSO with AZ in Thor mode, just for fun.  

Tom
K8TOM
#815


Re: Anybody around??

Rick Sterling <KI7OIY@...>
 

I got three PSK31 contacts this morning but haven't seen anything since.

KI7OIY
Rick


On Sun, Aug 18, 2019 at 6:06 PM K8TOM <tsingle@...> wrote:
Monitoring 20M off an on since early morning, I don't think I've seen more than a dozen QSOs today.  Pretty quite from my corner of the country.  Had a QSO with AZ in Thor mode, just for fun.  

Tom
K8TOM
#815


Re: Anybody around??

K8TOM
 

Monitoring 20M off an on since early morning, I don't think I've seen more than a dozen QSOs today.  Pretty quite from my corner of the country.  Had a QSO with AZ in Thor mode, just for fun.  

Tom
K8TOM
#815


Re: Anybody around??

Charles Odom, KI4VMK # 2542
 

I'm usually on this time of day but we have thunderstorms all day.

KI4VMK
#2542 🇺🇲

On Aug 18, 2019, at 6:36 PM, Dan Morris - KZ3T <dbmorris315@...> wrote:
Anybody on any of the bands?  I’ve been on 80-20M and seeing not one signal anywhere!!!

Dan Morris KZ3T
dbmorris315@...

I live to live for Him!







Anybody around??

Dan Morris - KZ3T
 

Anybody on any of the bands? I’ve been on 80-20M and seeing not one signal anywhere!!!

Dan Morris KZ3T
dbmorris315@gmail.com

I live to live for Him!


Re: IOTA endorsement info

Loren McCullough - WA3WZR
 

Milt, it is the IOTA #  example:  EU-005, NA-026, etc.

I think you guys are saying the same thing.  The QRZ method only works if they are at the grid listed in QRZ.  you need another method to look up grids if they are away from their home QTH.  I like the website:  http://www.levinecentral.com/ham/grid_square.php

73, Loren


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