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Re: 366 Anyone?

Rick - N7WE
 

I should point out that Paul - NU4C - now not on the air due to health problems, but still monitoring this group, completed it not once, BUT TWICE!  Only person to do so!  Anyone want to take a run at that??
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Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602


Re: 366 Anyone?

David, K9DWR
 

* Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@gmail.com> [2020-01-01 14:16]:
OK, this was supposed to go out at 7 PM EST last night, but I screwed up!  So
hurry!  You only have about an hour and 45 minutes to make your 1/1/2020 QSO!
On the plus side, if you miss today, it's not a long wait to pick it up at the
beginning of next year (just one extra day to pick up). It's a lot better to
miss at the beginning of the year than the end. :-)

The important one not to miss is leap year Feb 29.

--
David, K9DWR
#1604 LONP #255
david@graniteweb.com


Re: 366 Anyone?

Geary McDowell
 

Only 49 left for me, mostly July but at least one each month.  Working at it! 
Geary, KE5IRK 

On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 4:14 PM Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@...> wrote:
Primarily to our newer members.....but anyone else can play if they want to!

Interested in taking a run at 365, Leap Day, and 366?  Today is the day to get started.  You don't have to complete it all in one year.  But it can and has been done.  Just one contact in each 24 hour UTC day.  This is the first year since its inception in 2016 that it can be completed in one year!  If you miss Leap Day, Feb. 29, the chance to complet in just one year will not come around again until 20124.  In 2016, 9 people completed it in a straight run.
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Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602

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When all else fails, Amateur Radio works.


Re: 366 Anyone?

Paul Butzi (W7PFB)
 

I just want to weigh in on this and encourage everyone who has not yet earned the 365/366 endorsements to go for it, no matter when you start.

I’ve had an incredible amount of fun chasing 070 endorsements. 

But none of them have been as fun to chase as the 365/366 endorsement.  I learned a lot about operating while getting all the QSOs I needed.  Beyond honing existing skills and building new ones, the need to be on the air chasing QSOs every day meant I spent much more time on the air having fun.

It’s just a fabulous good time.  Go for it!

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

On Jan 1, 2020, at 2:16 PM, Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@...> wrote:

OK, this was supposed to go out at 7 PM EST last night, but I screwed up!  So hurry!  You only have about an hour and 45 minutes to make your 1/1/2020 QSO!
--
Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602


Re: 366 Anyone?

Rick - N7WE
 

OK, this was supposed to go out at 7 PM EST last night, but I screwed up!  So hurry!  You only have about an hour and 45 minutes to make your 1/1/2020 QSO!
--
Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602


366 Anyone?

Rick - N7WE
 
Edited

Primarily to our newer members.....but anyone else can play if they want to!

Interested in taking a run at 365, Leap Day, and 366?  Today is the day to get started.  You don't have to complete it all in one year.  But it can and has been done.  Just one contact in each 24 hour UTC day.  This is the first year since its inception in 2016 that it can be completed in one year!  If you miss Leap Day, Feb. 29, the chance to complete in just one year will not come around again until 2024.  In 2016, 9 people completed it in a straight run.
--
Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602


Happy New Year and a new 366

David, K9DWR
 

Happy New Year, everyone. Don't forget this year is a leap year to get that
elusive Feb 29 for the Clock and Calendar 365 + 1 for a contact every day of
the year.

--
David, K9DWR
#1604 LONP #255
david@graniteweb.com


Re: Welcome 2721, 2722

Rick - N7WE
 

Let me add my WELCOME! to Tom W7OXB, Bob K8RGI, and Bill N3XL.  Glad you have joined us.  I hope you find 070 Club as great an experience as I have.  Hope to add all 3 of you to my log during the coming PSKFest starting this Friday night (7PM EST 6PM CST, 5PM MST, and 4PM PST - 24 hours!)  There will be more PSK31 traces on the waterfall than we've seen in a long time!
--
Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602


Re: Membership Requirements

David, K9DWR
 

* Paul Butzi (W7PFB) <w7pfb@butzi.net> [2020-01-01 06:55]:

I would favor, though, putting text on the website at some point suggesting
that if someone wants to join, they reach out and contact a ham who is a
member, who can make a post saying that the aspiring applicant is looking to
make their 50, so be on the lookout for them and help them out. In the past
when that’s been done, they make their 50 in short order!
Priming the pump is a good idea, but I'll suggest something a bit
better. Instead of contacting "some member" to post on the reflector,
maybe we can put that as a specific email that's fielded by the
leadership so we know people are aware. That way, we aren't putting
them in a position where they have to guess what member to ask to post
for them.

--
David, K9DWR
#1604 LONP #255
david@graniteweb.com


Re: Welcome 2721, 2722

Jim K5SP
 

Bob's call is K8RGI.

73
Jim K5SP 



Semnt via the Samsung Galaxy S10e, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: stan robinson <robinstan@...>
Date: 1/1/20 10:49 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Welcome 2721, 2722

Welcome, welcome, Bob and Bill!

We were very happy to see that you both participated in the Doubleheader Contest and that the experience was evidently rewarding enough that you decided to join us for future opportunities..

We have noted that Bob, K8GGI, will provide significant competition in the future, as he grabbed 3rd place in the High Power category, and Bill was not far behind him.

We look forward to seeing your traces light our waterfalls!

73,
Stan #1611
W9SMR




________________________________________
From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Jim K5SP <jinnis@...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2020 7:44 AM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Cc: bill.n3xl@...; robert@...
Subject: [070Club] Welcome 2721, 2722

Please join me in welcoming new member(s):

2721  Bob  K8RGI
2722  Bill   N3XL

Jim K5SP
Membership Director

--
Jim,  K5SP #483
Member Services Director





--
Jim,  K5SP #483
Member Services Director


Re: Welcome 2721, 2722

David, K9DWR
 

* stan robinson <robinstan@hotmail.com> [2020-01-01 16:49]:
Welcome, welcome, Bob and Bill!

We were very happy to see that you both participated in the Doubleheader Contest and that the experience was evidently rewarding enough that you decided to join us for future opportunities..

We have noted that Bob, K8GGI, will provide significant competition in the future, as he grabbed 3rd place in the High Power category, and Bill was not far behind him.

We look forward to seeing your traces light our waterfalls!
I couldn't have said it better. Welcome to both of you. :-)

--
David, K9DWR
#1604 LONP #255
david@graniteweb.com


Re: Membership Requirements

Ken Campbell <n6pcd1@...>
 

Jim,

I am in complete agreement with you! There needs to be some form of “threshold” as a requirement for membership. IMHO that is one of the things that make this organization great. 

When I joined, with much encouragement from my dear friend Milt N6MG (then W6QE) I felt a real sense of accomplishment to have met the requirements. It MEANT something.

Having said all that, I believe the management needs to revisit the QSO requirement. I can get OTA here in SoCal and send CQ over time on the calling frequencies at different times of the day and get nary a reply. Not even see other traces. Some of this is admittedly due to my CC&R restricted antenna, FT modes siphoning away interest from PSK, and awful propagation, but I’m essentially using the same type of setup I used when I made my bones back in the day.

Blowing he foam off, I believe the QSO requirement should remain, but consider lowering the amount required.

VY 73 and Happy New Year to all y’all!

Ken N6PCD
070 #801
LONP #187


Re: Welcome 2721, 2722

stan W9SMR
 

Welcome, welcome, Bob and Bill!

We were very happy to see that you both participated in the Doubleheader Contest and that the experience was evidently rewarding enough that you decided to join us for future opportunities..

We have noted that Bob, K8GGI, will provide significant competition in the future, as he grabbed 3rd place in the High Power category, and Bill was not far behind him.

We look forward to seeing your traces light our waterfalls!

73,
Stan #1611
W9SMR




________________________________________
From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Jim K5SP <jinnis@swbell.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2020 7:44 AM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Cc: bill.n3xl@verizon.net; robert@rjrobbins.net
Subject: [070Club] Welcome 2721, 2722

Please join me in welcoming new member(s):

2721 Bob K8RGI
2722 Bill N3XL

Jim K5SP
Membership Director

--
Jim, K5SP #483
Member Services Director


Re: Membership Requirements

Stephen Melachrinos
 

Paul -

I think your suggestion (to contact a member via email) is great. I also think we could suggest working an 070 contest.

Given the poor propagation we have now, and the fact that there are fewer PSK stations on the air, we should be encouraging prospective members. Typically that happens when someone makes a QSO on the air, but we should use other resources we have, including the web site.

Steve
W3HF


-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Butzi (W7PFB) <w7pfb@...>
To: 070Club <070Club@groups.io>
Sent: Wed, Jan 1, 2020 9:56 am
Subject: Re: [070Club] Membership Requirements

Ignoring the issue of how 50 QSOs is more of a problem for some hams than for others for a brief moment…

I would observe that despite the world being overrun by FT8 there seems to be a steady stream of new PODXS070 member emails landing in my email inbox.

So perhaps it is not as big an issue as I had thought.  So I have changed my mind and think perhaps 50 is a pretty good balance between the various concerns.

I would favor, though, putting text on the website at some point suggesting that if someone wants to join, they reach out and contact a ham who is a member, who can make a post saying that the aspiring applicant is looking to make their 50, so be on the lookout for them and help them out.  In the past when that’s been done, they make their 50 in short order!

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

On Dec 31, 2019, at 11:09 AM, Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@...> wrote:

Propagation is a lot tougher from the Pacific Northwest to the rest of the USA.  I grew up out there.  In fact, once you get west of the Cascades anywhere in Oregon, Washington, or British Columbia, it gets difficult.  Once you get west of the Coast Range, it gets really tough.  In Barry's case, living in North Vancouver, topography plays a very big role.  Vancouver is at sea level and the mountains come right down to the ocean.  Really fouls up the takeoff angle and makes getting a signal in or out a real challenge., even with good propagation.  Beautiful scenery though...when the rain lets up!
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Rick - N7WE
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Re: Membership Requirements

Paul Butzi (W7PFB)
 

Ignoring the issue of how 50 QSOs is more of a problem for some hams than for others for a brief moment…

I would observe that despite the world being overrun by FT8 there seems to be a steady stream of new PODXS070 member emails landing in my email inbox.

So perhaps it is not as big an issue as I had thought.  So I have changed my mind and think perhaps 50 is a pretty good balance between the various concerns.

I would favor, though, putting text on the website at some point suggesting that if someone wants to join, they reach out and contact a ham who is a member, who can make a post saying that the aspiring applicant is looking to make their 50, so be on the lookout for them and help them out.  In the past when that’s been done, they make their 50 in short order!

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

On Dec 31, 2019, at 11:09 AM, Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@...> wrote:

Propagation is a lot tougher from the Pacific Northwest to the rest of the USA.  I grew up out there.  In fact, once you get west of the Cascades anywhere in Oregon, Washington, or British Columbia, it gets difficult.  Once you get west of the Coast Range, it gets really tough.  In Barry's case, living in North Vancouver, topography plays a very big role.  Vancouver is at sea level and the mountains come right down to the ocean.  Really fouls up the takeoff angle and makes getting a signal in or out a real challenge., even with good propagation.  Beautiful scenery though...when the rain lets up!
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Rick - N7WE
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Welcome 2721, 2722

Jim K5SP
 

Please join me in welcoming new member(s):

2721  Bob  K8RGI
2722  Bill   N3XL

Jim K5SP
Membership Director
--
Jim,  K5SP #483
Member Services Director


Re: Membership Requirements

Dan Morris - KZ3T
 

Here, here Ryan - I tried it also, did not like it , deleted it and just don’t care for it.  A good mode for those just wanting to make a quickie contact and done or for DX and that is okay but just wasn’t for me.

Dan Morris  KZ3T

I live to live for Him!



On Dec 31, 2019, at 2:37 PM, Ryan Trullinger <rt83021@...> wrote:

In response to Paula and others, your location might be an issue, I don't know I live in Nebraska, but to be honest the odds of making contacts with FT8
might have more to do with the sheer quantity of people using it, go to PSK reporter, look at FT8 and PSK31 on all bands separately, the numbers are staggering, with the FT8 users.
Bottom line is, the more players there are the better the odds of you getting contacts. With that said I have looked at FT8 and it simply doesn't interest me, I like chatting too much.


Re: Membership Requirements

Stephen Melachrinos
 

Don -

No apologies needed--I don't think anyone took offense to your questions and suggestions. The 070 club is in a transition period now, and although the focus of the new team is trying to keep the club going when a lot of our automation goes away, reasonable suggestions are welcome.

I think we all agree that polite discussions are always beneficial. Ultimately it's up to the leadership to decided, but leaders are people too. None of us can view a question from all perspectives, so hearing the comments from others helps inform the decision.

Regarding your questions:

- I'm not sure about why we have such a low DX membership rate. Perhaps part of it is that the web site is only in English. (At one time we had a German translation, but that's fallen by the wayside.) A second possibility is the appearance of the European PSK Club (EPC)--that everything-is-free approach (and their multiple translations on the web page) may appeal to more DX stations. I wonder what the DX fraction is of other US-based amateur radio clubs, like 10-10, QRP ARCI, or even QCWA. 

- Yes, it's a shame that the 17m and 30m PSK sub-bands seem to be overrun right now. I'm optimistic that when propagation picks up again, we'll see more PSK operation, and perhaps reclaim (or find a new place) on the WARC bands.

- I know that there have been suggestions on some sort of award or endorsement for member referrals. Keep the suggestions coming.

- Actually, I'm pretty pleased with the membership growth over the years. After all, going from 1227 to 2720 in less than ten years means we've averaged 150 new members a year. As we've been discussing, there is an intentional "hump" (of 50 QSOs) that applicants have to attain to join, and I'm sure that deters some. But overall I think we've done pretty well. 

Thanks for all you do to promote both PSK operation and ham radio in general (like HRHG). We're pleased you are a member of our club too.

73, 
Steve
W3HF

P.S. I've been pretty busy at work for the past year or so, and have spent little time on the air other than a few 070 contests. Hopefully that will change soon (in time to catch the upturn in sunspots!)


-----Original Message-----
From: Don_KB9UMT via Groups.Io <dhobson123@...>
To: 070Club <070Club@groups.io>
Sent: Tue, Dec 31, 2019 1:35 pm
Subject: Re: [070Club] Membership Requirements

Hi Steve and all,

Long time not seeing you on the band or having you in my log so I will be looking for you on the bands...hope all is well your way with you and the family.

My questions were honest ones only in the spirit of trying to promote/increase 070 and more PSK activity so if they came across in any other way please except my apology (I'm a big fan of PSK...so much so one of the few that promoted and used it not only on 6 meters but also 2m/70cm VHF/UHF using it there as well....as Art my also know, and BTW Art thanks for your many years of PropNet and 10m research, great stuff - PSK seemed to work pretty well didn't it?).

Anyway.... changes really are not up to the members although a good discussion but it is up to the 070 Leadership for sure and again thanks for all you folks do to promote PSK (running any size club is not easy).

Just a few more comments if you don't mind and things are always changing sometimes good or sometimes bad...but things will change (personally I hope not to see PSK mode go away, it is a great mode in my view):

-  070 membership for members that are DX (non-W) according to the numbers listed on the 070 site (Alpha List) is only about 13% of the members, I always wondered why is that....maybe it is the suggested $5 for mailed membership cerficate/items I'm not sure...but why not have an option to save both the DX member and Staff money/time with option of PDF emailed and let them print their own....just a thought/option..? 

-  17 meter PSK portion of the band lost due to I guess low or no activity now only FT8 signals to be had and I'm guessing 30 meter PSK portion also will be taken soon so not sure how to promote more PSK activity on bands other than 20 and 40 meters but maybe there is more activity than I see in other areas....it would be sad to continue to lose PSK portions of the bands and after June 2017 creation of FT8 and now 2020 where FT8/FT4 is taking over once we go from bottom to top of the cycle not sure where all the increased activity on these modes or new modes to come will want to try to take a portion of the bands if they don't see normal activity in a certain mode.

-  Is there may be a way to promote 070 by a members certificate of referrals for those promoting 070 to others or on their Website or on QRZ on for sure on the air in their brag file...? 
 
-  Not always but usually more members will equal more activity/participation just from a percentage perspective....let's say most clubs there is 10 to 20% active/participate rate so take 1,000 vs. 10,000 members more chances of more activity (not always but usually, and not seeing the same old calls)

-  My membership number is 1227 issued in August of 2010......and in 9 years membership today is I think 2720...to me the 070 club is active with I think almost a contest every month along with other events/certificates and even more activity here on this Forum so to me I can't understand why there are not many more members (which I am very pro-PSK so I guess I am bias and think everyone should like this mode and club...I like a good ragchew to get to know others, or experimenting with power or different antennas or bands, etc.)

I don't post much here unless to maybe try to gain some activity for PSK on 30 meters (or although not a contest Op try to give some points to others that are participating in 070 Contests if time allows) but I do enjoy reading the forum, posts and all the activity so again I thank the 070 Staff for all they do and the members here that enjoy PSK, it is a great mode in my book so no matter what I personally will continue to promote 070 and PSK mode....Happy New Year 2020 to everyone.

Thanks
Don KB9UMT 
070#1227
I promote PSK and 070 every chance I get.....so far for 30 meters not many takers for more activity there so my guess is FT4 will take over soon as I keep moving up higher on the 30 meter band usually at 10.142 to 10.143 CQing in PSK


Re: Membership Requirements

Ryan Trullinger (KC0QNB)
 

In response to Paula and others, your location might be an issue, I don't know I live in Nebraska, but to be honest the odds of making contacts with FT8
might have more to do with the sheer quantity of people using it, go to PSK reporter, look at FT8 and PSK31 on all bands separately, the numbers are staggering, with the FT8 users.
Bottom line is, the more players there are the better the odds of you getting contacts. With that said I have looked at FT8 and it simply doesn't interest me, I like chatting too much.


Re: Membership Requirements

Paula K7PAX #1739
 

Thanks Barry and Rick for understanding our position out here in the PNW during this low sunspot situation. I would like to weigh in on the discussion to give more perspective regarding lack of PSK31 activity and the proliferation of FT8. A little background for the newer members who don’t know me - I have been a ham since 2010 and PSK has always been my mode of choice - and I was very active in the 070 contests in the past. But life and circumstances change, and I had to move from a QTH with a hexbeam on a 35ft tower, to an HOA with antenna restrictions. With propagation as it is, and using compromise antennas, I can very rarely make any contacts on PSK, even during contests. That being said, FT8 is about the only way I can get any contacts at all these days. That may be true for lots of folks - it isn’t about automation, or even about gathering as many quick contacts as possible, but rather about operating at all with any success.

Just thought I would put in my 2 cents. But PSK is still my first love, and this club has been so much fun! I have made many good friends, and hope we can continue. It is really unique! I am just waiting for propagation to improve. We all need to wait it out - I am sure that you will see a resurgence once the sunspots cooperate!

Paula K7PAX #1739

On Dec 31, 2019, at 11:09 AM, Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@...> wrote:

Propagation is a lot tougher from the Pacific Northwest to the rest of the USA.  I grew up out there.  In fact, once you get west of the Cascades anywhere in Oregon, Washington, or British Columbia, it gets difficult.  Once you get west of the Coast Range, it gets really tough.  In Barry's case, living in North Vancouver, topography plays a very big role.  Vancouver is at sea level and the mountains come right down to the ocean.  Really fouls up the takeoff angle and makes getting a signal in or out a real challenge., even with good propagation.  Beautiful scenery though...when the rain lets up!
-
Rick - N7WE
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