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Re: 17M Now
I am there calling CQ but don't see anyone else...... Fr Richard WB8YXF
On Monday, October 9, 2017, 12:55:11 PM EDT, randy true w4rttrandy@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
Not seeing anything here.
Randy W4RTT From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of Dan Morris dbmorris315@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 12:50 PM To: 070 List Service 070 List Service Subject: Re: [070] 17M Now I’m at 18.100 plus 800 and don’t see anything but calling also.
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Re: 17M Now
Not seeing anything here.
Randy W4RTT From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of Dan Morris dbmorris315@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 12:50 PM To: 070 List Service 070 List Service Subject: Re: [070] 17M Now I’m at 18.100 plus 800 and don’t see anything but calling also.
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Re: 17M Now
I’m at 18.100 plus 800 and don’t see anything but calling also.
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Re: 17M Now
I'm calling at 800 now.
Randy W4RTT From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of Dan Morris dbmorris315@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 12:44 PM To: 070 List Service 070 List Service Subject: [070] 17M Now Calling CQ on 17M now at 1645Z |
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17M Now
Calling CQ on 17M now at 1645Z
Dan Morris KZ3T 070-1065 dbmorris315@... I live to live for Him! |
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Re: 17m PSK31
I know I am late to the party, but trying on 17m now..... Fr Richard WB8YXF
On Monday, October 9, 2017, 11:46:24 AM EDT, 'Steve Case' artcase@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
I was there too for the last half hour, CQ'd saw nothing but FT8 sigs. I agree use it or lose it.
Steve
WA7ETE
PNW
#872
From: "randy true w4rttrandy@... [070]" <070@...> Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 8:41 AM To: "070@..." <070@...> Subject: Re: [070] 17m PSK31
Nope, just 20 FT8 signals.
Randy W4RTT From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of 'Mike Besemer' mwbesemer@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 11:11 AM To: 070@... Subject: RE: [070] 17m PSK31
Not seeing you. Can you see me?
Mike WM4B
From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
I'm also there
Randy W4RTT
From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of 'Mike Besemer' mwbesemer@... [070] <070@...>
CQing there now. The FT8 stations moved away from where I’m at.
Mike WM4B
From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
I just got into the digi modes a couple years ago, and I settled on PSK31 and have loved it. I did notice that whenever I went up to 17 and called there was seldom anyone around. I have made just a hand full of contacts on 17. I do work FT8 and have mad many contacts on 17. But I try to keep above .100 because it is "our" freq. I think it was mostly, "hey these guys aren't using it, so lets us use it" As the old saying says, if you don't use it you will lose it.
Randy W4RTT
From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of Jerry n9avy@... [070] <070@...>
Probably not, but "venting" feels good. I am hesitant to join another group after cleaning out several groups people urged me to join. There were days I'd wake up and have way too many emails to answer; so, I purged many email accounts that held little interest. Just don't want to start down that road again.
I'm hoping that once the FT8 people tire of the mode, they'll just go away.
Jerry n9avy
From: "n7we1980@... [070]" <070@...>
I too feel the frustration with FT-8 "taking over" what had been "our" segment of 17m. But I doubt posting our concerns here will do much to change that. May I suggest those of us who feel this is an inappropriate encroachment on the gentlemen's agreement join the WSJT Meteor Scatter and Weak Signal Group https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/wsjtgroup/infoand voice our complaints there?
The group's conversations make for interesting reading - particularly the current thread of Expanding the Watering Hole. Have no doubt - they are coming soon to a frequency we all love and use. Time to make our voice heard!
Rick - N7WE 070 - #1602
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Re: 17m PSK31
Steve Case <artcase@...>
I was there too for the last half hour, CQ'd saw nothing but FT8 sigs. I agree use it or lose it.
Steve
WA7ETE
PNW
#872
From: "randy true w4rttrandy@... [070]" <070@...> Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 8:41 AM To: "070@..." <070@...> Subject: Re: [070] 17m PSK31
Nope, just 20 FT8 signals.
Randy W4RTT From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of 'Mike Besemer' mwbesemer@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 11:11 AM To: 070@... Subject: RE: [070] 17m PSK31
Not seeing you. Can you see me?
Mike WM4B
From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
I'm also there
Randy W4RTT
From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of 'Mike Besemer' mwbesemer@... [070] <070@...>
CQing there now. The FT8 stations moved away from where I’m at.
Mike WM4B
From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
I just got into the digi modes a couple years ago, and I settled on PSK31 and have loved it. I did notice that whenever I went up to 17 and called there was seldom anyone around. I have made just a hand full of contacts on 17. I do work FT8 and have mad many contacts on 17. But I try to keep above .100 because it is "our" freq. I think it was mostly, "hey these guys aren't using it, so lets us use it" As the old saying says, if you don't use it you will lose it.
Randy W4RTT
From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of Jerry n9avy@... [070] <070@...>
Probably not, but "venting" feels good. I am hesitant to join another group after cleaning out several groups people urged me to join. There were days I'd wake up and have way too many emails to answer; so, I purged many email accounts that held little interest. Just don't want to start down that road again.
I'm hoping that once the FT8 people tire of the mode, they'll just go away.
Jerry n9avy
From: "n7we1980@... [070]" <070@...>
I too feel the frustration with FT-8 "taking over" what had been "our" segment of 17m. But I doubt posting our concerns here will do much to change that. May I suggest those of us who feel this is an inappropriate encroachment on the gentlemen's agreement join the WSJT Meteor Scatter and Weak Signal Group https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/wsjtgroup/infoand voice our complaints there?
The group's conversations make for interesting reading - particularly the current thread of Expanding the Watering Hole. Have no doubt - they are coming soon to a frequency we all love and use. Time to make our voice heard!
Rick - N7WE 070 - #1602
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Re: 17m PSK31
Nope, just 20 FT8 signals.
Randy W4RTT From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of 'Mike Besemer' mwbesemer@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 11:11 AM To: 070@... Subject: RE: [070] 17m PSK31 Not seeing you. Can you see me?
Mike WM4B
From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
I'm also there
Randy W4RTT
From:
070@... <070@...> on behalf of 'Mike Besemer'
mwbesemer@... [070] <070@...>
CQing there now. The FT8 stations moved away from where I’m at.
Mike WM4B
From:
070@... [mailto:070@...]
I just got into the digi modes a couple years ago, and I settled on PSK31 and have loved it. I did notice that whenever I went up to 17 and called there was seldom anyone around. I have made just a hand full of contacts on 17. I do work FT8 and have mad many contacts on 17. But I try to keep above .100 because it is "our" freq. I think it was mostly, "hey these guys aren't using it, so lets us use it" As the old saying says, if you don't use it you will lose it.
Randy W4RTT
From:
070@... <070@...> on behalf of Jerry
n9avy@... [070] <070@...>
Probably not, but "venting" feels good. I am hesitant to join another group after cleaning out several groups people urged me to join. There were days I'd wake up and have way too many emails to answer; so, I purged many email accounts that held little interest. Just don't want to start down that road again.
I'm hoping that once the FT8 people tire of the mode, they'll just go away.
Jerry n9avy
From: "n7we1980@... [070]" <070@...>
I too feel the frustration with FT-8 "taking over" what had been "our" segment of 17m. But I doubt posting our concerns here will do much to change that. May I suggest those of us who feel this is an inappropriate encroachment on the gentlemen's agreement join the WSJT Meteor Scatter and Weak Signal Group https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/wsjtgroup/infoand voice our complaints there?
The group's conversations make for interesting reading - particularly the current thread of Expanding the Watering Hole. Have no doubt - they are coming soon to a frequency we all love and use. Time to make our voice heard!
Rick - N7WE 070 - #1602
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Re: 17m PSK31
Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@...>
Not seeing you. Can you see me?
Mike WM4B
From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 11:02 AM To: 070@... Subject: Re: [070] 17m PSK31
I'm also there
Randy W4RTT
From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of 'Mike Besemer' mwbesemer@... [070] <070@...>
CQing there now. The FT8 stations moved away from where I’m at.
Mike WM4B
From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
I just got into the digi modes a couple years ago, and I settled on PSK31 and have loved it. I did notice that whenever I went up to 17 and called there was seldom anyone around. I have made just a hand full of contacts on 17. I do work FT8 and have mad many contacts on 17. But I try to keep above .100 because it is "our" freq. I think it was mostly, "hey these guys aren't using it, so lets us use it" As the old saying says, if you don't use it you will lose it.
Randy W4RTT
From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of Jerry n9avy@... [070] <070@...>
Probably not, but "venting" feels good. I am hesitant to join another group after cleaning out several groups people urged me to join. There were days I'd wake up and have way too many emails to answer; so, I purged many email accounts that held little interest. Just don't want to start down that road again.
I'm hoping that once the FT8 people tire of the mode, they'll just go away.
Jerry n9avy
From: "n7we1980@... [070]" <070@...>
I too feel the frustration with FT-8 "taking over" what had been "our" segment of 17m. But I doubt posting our concerns here will do much to change that. May I suggest those of us who feel this is an inappropriate encroachment on the gentlemen's agreement join the WSJT Meteor Scatter and Weak Signal Group https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/wsjtgroup/infoand voice our complaints there?
The group's conversations make for interesting reading - particularly the current thread of Expanding the Watering Hole. Have no doubt - they are coming soon to a frequency we all love and use. Time to make our voice heard!
Rick - N7WE 070 - #1602
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Re: 17m PSK31
I'm also there
Randy W4RTT From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of 'Mike Besemer' mwbesemer@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 10:57 AM To: 070@... Subject: RE: [070] 17m PSK31 CQing there now. The FT8 stations moved away from where I’m at.
Mike WM4B
From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
I just got into the digi modes a couple years ago, and I settled on PSK31 and have loved it. I did notice that whenever I went up to 17 and called there was seldom anyone around. I have made just a hand full of contacts on 17. I do work FT8 and have mad many contacts on 17. But I try to keep above .100 because it is "our" freq. I think it was mostly, "hey these guys aren't using it, so lets us use it" As the old saying says, if you don't use it you will lose it.
Randy W4RTT
From:
070@... <070@...> on behalf of Jerry
n9avy@... [070] <070@...>
Probably not, but "venting" feels good. I am hesitant to join another group after cleaning out several groups people urged me to join. There were days I'd wake up and have way too many emails to answer; so, I purged many email accounts that held little interest. Just don't want to start down that road again.
I'm hoping that once the FT8 people tire of the mode, they'll just go away.
Jerry n9avy
From: "n7we1980@... [070]" <070@...>
I too feel the frustration with FT-8 "taking over" what had been "our" segment of 17m. But I doubt posting our concerns here will do much to change that. May I suggest those of us who feel this is an inappropriate encroachment on the gentlemen's agreement join the WSJT Meteor Scatter and Weak Signal Group https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/wsjtgroup/infoand voice our complaints there?
The group's conversations make for interesting reading - particularly the current thread of Expanding the Watering Hole. Have no doubt - they are coming soon to a frequency we all love and use. Time to make our voice heard!
Rick - N7WE 070 - #1602
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Re: 17m PSK31
Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@...>
CQing there now. The FT8 stations moved away from where I’m at.
Mike WM4B
From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 10:48 AM To: 070@... Subject: Re: [070] 17m PSK31
I just got into the digi modes a couple years ago, and I settled on PSK31 and have loved it. I did notice that whenever I went up to 17 and called there was seldom anyone around. I have made just a hand full of contacts on 17. I do work FT8 and have mad many contacts on 17. But I try to keep above .100 because it is "our" freq. I think it was mostly, "hey these guys aren't using it, so lets us use it" As the old saying says, if you don't use it you will lose it.
Randy W4RTT
From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of Jerry n9avy@... [070] <070@...>
Probably not, but "venting" feels good. I am hesitant to join another group after cleaning out several groups people urged me to join. There were days I'd wake up and have way too many emails to answer; so, I purged many email accounts that held little interest. Just don't want to start down that road again.
I'm hoping that once the FT8 people tire of the mode, they'll just go away.
Jerry n9avy
From: "n7we1980@... [070]" <070@...>
I too feel the frustration with FT-8 "taking over" what had been "our" segment of 17m. But I doubt posting our concerns here will do much to change that. May I suggest those of us who feel this is an inappropriate encroachment on the gentlemen's agreement join the WSJT Meteor Scatter and Weak Signal Group https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/wsjtgroup/infoand voice our complaints there?
The group's conversations make for interesting reading - particularly the current thread of Expanding the Watering Hole. Have no doubt - they are coming soon to a frequency we all love and use. Time to make our voice heard!
Rick - N7WE 070 - #1602
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Re: 17m PSK31
I just got into the digi modes a couple years ago, and I settled on PSK31 and have loved it. I did notice that whenever I went up to 17 and called there was seldom anyone around. I have made just a hand full of contacts on 17. I do work FT8 and have mad many contacts on 17. But I try to keep above .100 because it is "our" freq. I think it was mostly, "hey these guys aren't using it, so lets us use it" As the old saying says, if you don't use it you will lose it.
Randy W4RTT From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of Jerry n9avy@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 9:29 AM To: 070@... Subject: Re: [070] 17m PSK31 Probably not, but "venting" feels good. I am hesitant to join another group after cleaning out several groups people urged me to join. There were days I'd wake up and have way too many emails to answer;
so, I purged many email accounts that held little interest. Just don't want to start down that road again.
I'm hoping that once the FT8 people tire of the mode, they'll just go away.
Jerry n9avy
From: "n7we1980@... [070]" <070@...> To: 070@... Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 6:11 AM Subject: Re: [070] 17m PSK31 I too feel the frustration with FT-8 "taking over" what had been "our" segment of 17m. But I doubt posting our concerns here will do much to change that. May I suggest those of us who feel this is an inappropriate encroachment on the gentlemen's agreement
join the WSJT Meteor Scatter and Weak Signal Group
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/wsjtgroup/info
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Re: 17m PSK31
Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@...>
Well, I’d kind of like to finish my 17 meter endorsement…
Mike WM4B From: 070@... [mailto:070@...] Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 10:27 AM To: 070@... Subject: Re: [070] 17m PSK31 While there are no FCC rules or regs against it, perhaps PODXS should have contests on 18.000 ? :-) Jerry n9avy ________________________________________ From: "'Mike Besemer' mwbesemer@... [070]" <070@...> To: 070@... Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 8:31 AM Subject: RE: [070] 17m PSK31 I suggest we start making regular use of 17 meters. I know propagation my not support much activity, but we can give it a try and see. Plus, it would be a good thing having them hear signals there. I can try to be there as my work schedule supports. Mike WM4B From: 070@... [mailto:070@...] Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 9:29 AM To: 070@... Subject: Re: [070] 17m PSK31 Probably not, but "venting" feels good. I am hesitant to join another group after cleaning out several groups people urged me to join. There were days I'd wake up and have way too many emails to answer; so, I purged many email accounts that held little interest. Just don't want to start down that road again. I'm hoping that once the FT8 people tire of the mode, they'll just go away. Jerry n9avy ________________________________________ From: "n7we1980@... [070]" <070@...> To: 070@... Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 6:11 AM Subject: Re: [070] 17m PSK31 I too feel the frustration with FT-8 "taking over" what had been "our" segment of 17m. But I doubt posting our concerns here will do much to change that. May I suggest those of us who feel this is an inappropriate encroachment on the gentlemen's agreement join the WSJT Meteor Scatter and Weak Signal Group https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/wsjtgroup/info and voice our complaints there? The group's conversations make for interesting reading - particularly the current thread of Expanding the Watering Hole. Have no doubt - they are coming soon to a frequency we all love and use. Time to make our voice heard! Rick - N7WE 070 - #1602 |
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Re: 17m PSK31
While there are no FCC rules or regs against it, perhaps PODXS should have contests on 18.000 ? :-) Jerry n9avy From: "'Mike Besemer' mwbesemer@... [070]" <070@...> To: 070@... Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 8:31 AM Subject: RE: [070] 17m PSK31 I suggest we start making regular use of 17 meters. I know propagation my not support much activity, but we can give it a try and see. Plus, it would be a good thing having them hear signals there.
I can try to be there as my work schedule supports. Mike WM4B From: 070@... [mailto:070@...] Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 9:29 AM To: 070@... Subject: Re: [070] 17m PSK31 Probably not, but "venting" feels good. I am hesitant to join another group after cleaning out several groups people urged me to join. There were days I'd wake up and have way too many emails to answer; so, I purged many email accounts that held little interest. Just don't want to start down that road again. I'm hoping that once the FT8 people tire of the mode, they'll just go away. Jerry n9avy ________________________________________ From: "n7we1980@... [070]" <070@...> To: 070@... Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 6:11 AM Subject: Re: [070] 17m PSK31 I too feel the frustration with FT-8 "taking over" what had been "our" segment of 17m. But I doubt posting our concerns here will do much to change that. May I suggest those of us who feel this is an inappropriate encroachment on the gentlemen's agreement join the WSJT Meteor Scatter and Weak Signal Group https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/wsjtgroup/info and voice our complaints there? The group's conversations make for interesting reading - particularly the current thread of Expanding the Watering Hole. Have no doubt - they are coming soon to a frequency we all love and use. Time to make our voice heard! Rick - N7WE 070 - #1602 |
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Re: 17m PSK31
Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@...>
I suggest we start making regular use of 17 meters. I know propagation my not support much activity, but we can give it a try and see. Plus, it would be a good thing having them hear signals there.
I can try to be there as my work schedule supports. Mike WM4B From: 070@... [mailto:070@...] Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 9:29 AM To: 070@... Subject: Re: [070] 17m PSK31 Probably not, but "venting" feels good. I am hesitant to join another group after cleaning out several groups people urged me to join. There were days I'd wake up and have way too many emails to answer; so, I purged many email accounts that held little interest. Just don't want to start down that road again. I'm hoping that once the FT8 people tire of the mode, they'll just go away. Jerry n9avy ________________________________________ From: "n7we1980@... [070]" <070@...> To: 070@... Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 6:11 AM Subject: Re: [070] 17m PSK31 I too feel the frustration with FT-8 "taking over" what had been "our" segment of 17m. But I doubt posting our concerns here will do much to change that. May I suggest those of us who feel this is an inappropriate encroachment on the gentlemen's agreement join the WSJT Meteor Scatter and Weak Signal Group https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/wsjtgroup/info and voice our complaints there? The group's conversations make for interesting reading - particularly the current thread of Expanding the Watering Hole. Have no doubt - they are coming soon to a frequency we all love and use. Time to make our voice heard! Rick - N7WE 070 - #1602 |
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Re: 17m PSK31
Probably not, but "venting" feels good. I am hesitant to join another group after cleaning out several groups people urged me to join. There were days I'd wake up and have way too many emails to answer; so, I purged many email accounts that held little interest. Just don't want to start down that road again. I'm hoping that once the FT8 people tire of the mode, they'll just go away. Jerry n9avy From: "n7we1980@... [070]" <070@...> To: 070@... Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 6:11 AM Subject: Re: [070] 17m PSK31 I too feel the frustration with FT-8 "taking over" what had been "our" segment of 17m. But I doubt posting our concerns here will do much to change that. May I suggest those of us who feel this is an inappropriate encroachment on the gentlemen's agreement join the WSJT Meteor Scatter and Weak Signal Group https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/wsjtgroup/infoand voice our complaints there? The group's conversations make for interesting reading - particularly the current thread of Expanding the Watering Hole. Have no doubt - they are coming soon to a frequency we all love and use. Time to make our voice heard! Rick - N7WE 070 - #1602 |
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Re: 17m PSK31
I too feel the frustration with FT-8 "taking over" what had been "our" segment of 17m. But I doubt posting our concerns here will do much to change that. May I suggest those of us who feel this is an inappropriate encroachment on the gentlemen's agreement join the WSJT Meteor Scatter and Weak Signal Group
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/wsjtgroup/infoand voice our complaints there? The group's conversations make for interesting reading - particularly the current thread of Expanding the Watering Hole. Have no doubt - they are coming soon to a frequency we all love and use. Time to make our voice heard! Rick - N7WE 070 - #1602 |
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NU4C - Paul - Completes 366!
He did it! On 10/8 NU4C - Paul - completed his 366. He is only the 21st person of 2570+ members to do so. Congratulations Paul. Well done! Paul had previously completed the 24/7 endorsement. Therefore, he also earned the Clock and Calendar Endorsement for working every day of the year, Leap Day, and every hour block of every day of the week. He is only the 13th person to reach this phenomenal milestone! It wasn't easy but he did it! Please join me in congratulating him on this fine accomplishment! Rick Butz N7WE - 070 #1602 PODXS 070 Public Relations Director |
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Re: 17m PSK31
Yup ! Same thing I've been finding almost daily. Jerry N9AVY From: "JEFF WALSH jeffwalsh1644@... [070]" <070@...> To: "070@..." <070@...> Sent: Sunday, October 8, 2017 7:15 PM Subject: Re: [070] 17m PSK31 My curiosity got the best of me ....After reading some of the original posts on 17m earlier today I went to 18.100 and sent out cq's in psk31 for about 20 minutes starting at about 21:00 zulu ..... I got no takers but the frequency was sure full of signals that were not psk ..... JEFF WALSH W3WMU #1673 BUBBAWOOD WORLDWIDE HEADQUARTERS STURGIS, MS. On Sunday, October 8, 2017 6:04 PM, "Jerry n9avy@... [070]" <070@...> wrote: Methinks the well-respected developer of FT8 wither a a brain fart , didn't care or is getting senile. He owes an apology to PSK31 operators everywhere ! If we didn't need band plans and everyone would operate as they pleased, the bands would be in total chaos. And they sure seem to be getting there now ! Jerry n9avy From: "'Mike Besemer' mwbesemer@... [070]" <070@...> To: 070@... Sent: Sunday, October 8, 2017 6:00 PM Subject: RE: [070] 17m PSK31 If I’d have received an email like that, I’d have politely (maybe) reminded the individual that the frequency had previously been occupied by another mode and that they didn’t get to decide what the band plan was all by themselves.
I’m all for everyone getting along and nobody ‘owning’ a frequency, but when they were told (and they have been) that they had chosen anchor frequencies that were already spoken for by gentleman’s agreement, they should have moved their anchors. The fact that they did not makes me think far less of the developer than I might have otherwise. I tried FT8 for a hot 15 minutes, got bored, and uninstalled the software. I don't see the attraction. Mike WM4B From: 070@... [mailto:070@...] Sent: Sunday, October 8, 2017 5:02 PM To: 070@... Subject: RE: [070] 17m PSK31 Well fellows, this seems to be a problem on many bands now. The FT8 group seems to have chosen frequencies without regard for other users and since it seems to be the hot thing now FT8 users are blanketing those areas. The EU window for Hellschriber uses was 14074 and a couple of weeks ago, I got an email from one of the authors of the article in QST tell me that I should change frequencies since that is now the FT8 frequency. A lot of other digital mode users have reported the same problem with FT8 users invading their normal frequencies. From what I understand, originally the FT8 frequencies would be 2 khz higher that JT65, which would have not caused problems for most other users of the less common digital modes, but somewhere along the line that has changed. The frequencies are included in the software so that’s where the gang has setup. Since the article was published last month it will probably be worse before it gets better. I personally don’t use the mode, although I tried it when it first came out and basically decided that is more my computer talking to your computer rather than ham radio. Any ways my thougths. 73 Dick KC3EF From: 070@... [mailto:070@...] Sent: Sunday, October 8, 2017 4:49 PM To: 070@... Subject: RE: [070] 17m PSK31 Yep. Mike WM4B From: 070@... [mailto:070@...] Sent: Sunday, October 8, 2017 4:42 PM To: 070@... Subject: Re: [070] 17m PSK31 So whose fault was it those FT8 stations are all on 18.000 ... thought I read somewhere that it was the designer ??? Jerry n9avy ___ |
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Re: 17m PSK31
JEFF WALSH
My curiosity got the best of me ....After reading some of the original posts on 17m earlier today I went to 18.100 and sent out cq's in psk31 for about 20 minutes starting at about 21:00 zulu ..... I got no takers but the frequency was sure full of signals that were not psk ..... JEFF WALSH W3WMU #1673 BUBBAWOOD WORLDWIDE HEADQUARTERS STURGIS, MS. On Sunday, October 8, 2017 6:04 PM, "Jerry n9avy@... [070]" <070@...> wrote: Methinks the well-respected developer of FT8 wither a a brain fart , didn't care or is getting senile. He owes an apology to PSK31 operators everywhere ! If we didn't need band plans and everyone would operate as they pleased, the bands would be in total chaos. And they sure seem to be getting there now ! Jerry n9avy From: "'Mike Besemer' mwbesemer@... [070]" <070@...> To: 070@... Sent: Sunday, October 8, 2017 6:00 PM Subject: RE: [070] 17m PSK31 If I’d have received an email like that, I’d have politely (maybe) reminded the individual that the frequency had previously been occupied by another mode and that they didn’t get to decide what the band plan was all by themselves.
I’m all for everyone getting along and nobody ‘owning’ a frequency, but when they were told (and they have been) that they had chosen anchor frequencies that were already spoken for by gentleman’s agreement, they should have moved their anchors. The fact that they did not makes me think far less of the developer than I might have otherwise. I tried FT8 for a hot 15 minutes, got bored, and uninstalled the software. I don't see the attraction. Mike WM4B From: 070@... [mailto:070@...] Sent: Sunday, October 8, 2017 5:02 PM To: 070@... Subject: RE: [070] 17m PSK31 Well fellows, this seems to be a problem on many bands now. The FT8 group seems to have chosen frequencies without regard for other users and since it seems to be the hot thing now FT8 users are blanketing those areas. The EU window for Hellschriber uses was 14074 and a couple of weeks ago, I got an email from one of the authors of the article in QST tell me that I should change frequencies since that is now the FT8 frequency. A lot of other digital mode users have reported the same problem with FT8 users invading their normal frequencies. From what I understand, originally the FT8 frequencies would be 2 khz higher that JT65, which would have not caused problems for most other users of the less common digital modes, but somewhere along the line that has changed. The frequencies are included in the software so that’s where the gang has setup. Since the article was published last month it will probably be worse before it gets better. I personally don’t use the mode, although I tried it when it first came out and basically decided that is more my computer talking to your computer rather than ham radio. Any ways my thougths. 73 Dick KC3EF From: 070@... [mailto:070@...] Sent: Sunday, October 8, 2017 4:49 PM To: 070@... Subject: RE: [070] 17m PSK31 Yep. Mike WM4B From: 070@... [mailto:070@...] Sent: Sunday, October 8, 2017 4:42 PM To: 070@... Subject: Re: [070] 17m PSK31 So whose fault was it those FT8 stations are all on 18.000 ... thought I read somewhere that it was the designer ??? Jerry n9avy ___ |
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