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Re: LOTW DOWN??

Jerry N9AVY
 

Don't just lovbe spellchecker ?   Hah !



Jerry



From: bowerjohn41 <poppajohnbower@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2018 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] LOTW DOWN??

One of those special spellcheck variations!
Look forward to enjoying 31 Flavors .
HAPPY EASTER.
John

On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 8:12 PM Jerry N9AVY <n9avy@...> wrote:
What''s a Romberg ?



From: bowerjohn41 <poppajohnbower@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2018 6:50 PM

Subject: Re: [070Club] LOTW DOWN??

There was an announcement of LOTW service updates a week or so ago saying it would be offline for a period. Can’t Romberg the dates though.
John KE4JB

On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 6:08 PM Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...> wrote:
Is LOTW down?
 
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Older Radios On PSK31 - Fun Question

Bill Garwood
 

Hi Folks,


Things have settled down so I though I'd ask a question on here just for fun.  Jerry's TS-850 dates from around 1990.  My first PSK31 QSOs were with a TS-680 built in 1988 with a Signalink.  It did poorly when the band was busy as it had no filters and the waterfall would turn to mush.  I remember having PSK31 QSOs on 20 meters with a station running a Heathkit HW-101 and another with a Swan 350.  The HW-101 dates back to about 1970 and the Swan to the late 1960s.  What is the oldest PSK31 rig you have used or have worked on the air?


Have a great week and will see you in the 31 Flavors contest.


Bill N4GBK


Re: LOTW DOWN??

bowerjohn41 <poppajohnbower@...>
 

One of those special spellcheck variations!
Look forward to enjoying 31 Flavors .
HAPPY EASTER.
John


On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 8:12 PM Jerry N9AVY <n9avy@...> wrote:
What''s a Romberg ?



From: bowerjohn41 <poppajohnbower@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2018 6:50 PM

Subject: Re: [070Club] LOTW DOWN??

There was an announcement of LOTW service updates a week or so ago saying it would be offline for a period. Can’t Romberg the dates though.
John KE4JB

On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 6:08 PM Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...> wrote:
Is LOTW down?
 
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Re: LOTW DOWN??

Jerry N9AVY
 

What''s a Romberg ?



From: bowerjohn41 <poppajohnbower@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2018 6:50 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] LOTW DOWN??

There was an announcement of LOTW service updates a week or so ago saying it would be offline for a period. Can’t Romberg the dates though.
John KE4JB

On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 6:08 PM Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...> wrote:
Is LOTW down?
 
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Re: LOTW DOWN??

Jerry N9AVY
 

Good one !




From: Paul Milward <nu4c@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2018 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] LOTW DOWN??

Chill, relax,  wait, patience
Sometimes we want to live in that world of instant gratification.
Check back Tuesday
O h.... wait I'm retired... the working folk need insta......... yawn



Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A

-------- Original message --------
From: Bill Garwood <n4gbk@...>
Date: 4/1/18 19:55 (GMT-05:00)
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] LOTW DOWN??

LoTW updates were last week.  A DX site said today was when the Z60 Kosovo DX logs were uploaded to LoTW.  That has it jammed up with all of the LoTW users worldwide trying to get their credit for a new country through the system.  I also noticed this morning that eQSL was messed up.  Hopefully, it will speed up eventually after the weekend is over and everyone gets their new DXCC credit.

73,

Bill N4GBK

From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of bowerjohn41 <poppajohnbower@...>
Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2018 11:50:01 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] LOTW DOWN??
 
There was an announcement of LOTW service updates a week or so ago saying it would be offline for a period. Can’t Romberg the dates though.
John KE4JB

On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 6:08 PM Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...> wrote:
Is LOTW down?
 
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Re: LOTW DOWN??

Paul Milward <nu4c@...>
 

Chill, relax,  wait, patience
Sometimes we want to live in that world of instant gratification.
Check back Tuesday
O h.... wait I'm retired... the working folk need insta......... yawn



Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A

-------- Original message --------
From: Bill Garwood <n4gbk@...>
Date: 4/1/18 19:55 (GMT-05:00)
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] LOTW DOWN??

LoTW updates were last week.  A DX site said today was when the Z60 Kosovo DX logs were uploaded to LoTW.  That has it jammed up with all of the LoTW users worldwide trying to get their credit for a new country through the system.  I also noticed this morning that eQSL was messed up.  Hopefully, it will speed up eventually after the weekend is over and everyone gets their new DXCC credit.


73,


Bill N4GBK


From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of bowerjohn41 <poppajohnbower@...>
Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2018 11:50:01 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] LOTW DOWN??
 
There was an announcement of LOTW service updates a week or so ago saying it would be offline for a period. Can’t Romberg the dates though.
John KE4JB

On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 6:08 PM Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...> wrote:

Is LOTW down?

 

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Re: LOTW DOWN??

Bill Garwood
 

LoTW updates were last week.  A DX site said today was when the Z60 Kosovo DX logs were uploaded to LoTW.  That has it jammed up with all of the LoTW users worldwide trying to get their credit for a new country through the system.  I also noticed this morning that eQSL was messed up.  Hopefully, it will speed up eventually after the weekend is over and everyone gets their new DXCC credit.


73,


Bill N4GBK


From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of bowerjohn41 <poppajohnbower@...>
Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2018 11:50:01 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] LOTW DOWN??
 
There was an announcement of LOTW service updates a week or so ago saying it would be offline for a period. Can’t Romberg the dates though.
John KE4JB

On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 6:08 PM Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...> wrote:

Is LOTW down?

 

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Re: LOTW DOWN??

bowerjohn41 <poppajohnbower@...>
 

There was an announcement of LOTW service updates a week or so ago saying it would be offline for a period. Can’t Romberg the dates though.
John KE4JB


On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 6:08 PM Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...> wrote:

Is LOTW down?

 

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TS-850 PSK31

Jerry N9AVY
 

It's been a long time since I had the ol' TS-850 on the air. Have a Signalink USB hooked up and think I may need to find the IF-232 for CAT control.  Just need to figure out how all this goes together. Took me about  10 minutes to find out how to change bands !

Is there anyone out there using a TS-850 who could give a litle info on geting this on PSK31.

TIA,


Jerry  N9AVY


Re: LOTW DOWN??

Brian (N2MLP)
 

Just times out here

 

You can fix your certificate with an e-mail to them

 

 

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From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jerry N9AVY
Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2018 6:10 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] LOTW DOWN??

 

It is for me, I screwed up renewing my certificate yesterday.  Now I have to do it the hard way.

 

 

Jerry  n9avy

 


From: Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2018 5:08 PM
Subject: [070Club] LOTW DOWN??

 

Is LOTW down?

 

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Re: LOTW DOWN??

Jerry N9AVY
 

It is for me, I screwed up renewing my certificate yesterday.  Now I have to do it the hard way.


Jerry  n9avy



From: Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2018 5:08 PM
Subject: [070Club] LOTW DOWN??

Is LOTW down?
 
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LOTW DOWN??

Brian (N2MLP)
 

Is LOTW down?

 

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Re: April 366 – Finish Line in Sight for Two Members!

Jim K5SP
 

Geary, one of these days we will get a QSO in. See others talking to you, but no trace of your signal. As close ad we are may be late evening 40/80.

JIM K5SP 



Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S®6 active, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone

-------- Original message --------
From: Geary McDowell <ke5irk@...>
Date: 4/1/18 3:05 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] April 366 – Finish Line in Sight for Two Members!

Thanks Rick.
My system is working pretty good now, finely after a nine year mess.  Most days I try PSK first, try to make one or two contacts at least.  Many days I see no stations when I start my day anywhere between 7 and 10 am, depending on when the puppy makes me get out of bed to fee him.  HI HI.  I am starting to see more stations again.  I need to remember to go back during the day and evening once in a while too.  I prefer the ragchew type of PSK over the hit and run stuff elsewhere.  But while my station is working, I am gonna have fun.  Thanks for the information.  I need to get on the web page and read up more on the various contest.  I am using Clublog now too, don't know if that helps or not, or if I just need to upload PSK contacts like monthly to the the )&) location.
73 from SW OK, too blasted cold for this time of year for this old man.  HI HI
Geary KE5IRK

On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 1:51 PM, Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@...> wrote:
You're very welcome Geary.  This endorsement began January 1, 2016 - which just happened to be a leap year.  There were 9 people who completed it straight through that first year.  2017 saw 21 more finish it.  So far this year there has only been one more person complete, but there are many more actively persuing it and on track to get it done by December 31, 2018.

There are a several things that people have found helpful in making the run.  First, you can work the same station again and again on different days - kind of "buddy up."  Second, most people try to get their contact for the day as close to 0000 as they can.  That leaves almost 24 hours to recover if things go off track.  Third, you will always have things come up that makes it difficult, if not impossible, to get to your shack!  Some of the solutions people have come up with include having mobile HF capability in their vehicle, operating portable (often needed for family vacations), and even using things like TeamViewer and RemoteRig to operate their station remotely.  If I remember right, Paula K7PAX completed by operating her shack using her tablet and TeamViewer when she couldn't get to the radio room because of knee replacement surgery!  Even though he lives in Pennsylvania, Steve W3HF belongs to a radio club in Colorado and has often used there club facilities for a 366 contact when work takes him out there.  It only takes one short sweet QSO in the log to fill the day. And finally, learning what bands work at which times from you location makes things a lot lot easier.  Knowing when to switch from 20m to 40m and then down to 80m can help a lot.

Even with the solar cycle near minimum, you can almost always find someone somewhere on the bands.  Just look at the number of people who have completed the 24/7 Endorsement.  That one's a dilly because it requires working a PSK31 QSO in each of the 168 one-hour time blocks that make up an entire week!  Not easy, but it can and has been done.  We'll save that discussion for a later post. 

From the Progress Checker as of Feb. 27 you already have 59 days credited toward 366 .  By now you are probably very close to the first 90 day level endorsement  So go for it!  Lots of us will be watching for you and happy to help by answering your CQ.
--
Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602




--
When all else fails, Amateur Radio works.

--
Jim,  K5SP #483
Member Services Director


Re: April 366 – Finish Line in Sight for Two Members!

Geary McDowell
 

Thanks Rick.
My system is working pretty good now, finely after a nine year mess.  Most days I try PSK first, try to make one or two contacts at least.  Many days I see no stations when I start my day anywhere between 7 and 10 am, depending on when the puppy makes me get out of bed to fee him.  HI HI.  I am starting to see more stations again.  I need to remember to go back during the day and evening once in a while too.  I prefer the ragchew type of PSK over the hit and run stuff elsewhere.  But while my station is working, I am gonna have fun.  Thanks for the information.  I need to get on the web page and read up more on the various contest.  I am using Clublog now too, don't know if that helps or not, or if I just need to upload PSK contacts like monthly to the the )&) location.
73 from SW OK, too blasted cold for this time of year for this old man.  HI HI
Geary KE5IRK

On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 1:51 PM, Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@...> wrote:
You're very welcome Geary.  This endorsement began January 1, 2016 - which just happened to be a leap year.  There were 9 people who completed it straight through that first year.  2017 saw 21 more finish it.  So far this year there has only been one more person complete, but there are many more actively persuing it and on track to get it done by December 31, 2018.

There are a several things that people have found helpful in making the run.  First, you can work the same station again and again on different days - kind of "buddy up."  Second, most people try to get their contact for the day as close to 0000 as they can.  That leaves almost 24 hours to recover if things go off track.  Third, you will always have things come up that makes it difficult, if not impossible, to get to your shack!  Some of the solutions people have come up with include having mobile HF capability in their vehicle, operating portable (often needed for family vacations), and even using things like TeamViewer and RemoteRig to operate their station remotely.  If I remember right, Paula K7PAX completed by operating her shack using her tablet and TeamViewer when she couldn't get to the radio room because of knee replacement surgery!  Even though he lives in Pennsylvania, Steve W3HF belongs to a radio club in Colorado and has often used there club facilities for a 366 contact when work takes him out there.  It only takes one short sweet QSO in the log to fill the day. And finally, learning what bands work at which times from you location makes things a lot lot easier.  Knowing when to switch from 20m to 40m and then down to 80m can help a lot.

Even with the solar cycle near minimum, you can almost always find someone somewhere on the bands.  Just look at the number of people who have completed the 24/7 Endorsement.  That one's a dilly because it requires working a PSK31 QSO in each of the 168 one-hour time blocks that make up an entire week!  Not easy, but it can and has been done.  We'll save that discussion for a later post. 

From the Progress Checker as of Feb. 27 you already have 59 days credited toward 366 .  By now you are probably very close to the first 90 day level endorsement  So go for it!  Lots of us will be watching for you and happy to help by answering your CQ.
--
Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602




--
When all else fails, Amateur Radio works.


Re: !0M open in to SA from north east PA UTC 18:59

Brian (N2MLP)
 

10M meters

 

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From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian (N2MLP)
Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2018 3:00 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: [070Club] !0M open in to SA from north east PA UTC 18:59

 

Working SA stations from PA  fn21

 

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From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jerry N9AVY
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 5:54 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: [070Club] contesting software

 

I would say use whatever you are comfortable with.  Try a few to find out what they're like.

 

I use  MixW 3.2 for every day work, but transfer contacts to ACLog.   I use N1MM for CW & SSB and also xfer it to ACLog. It a bit of extra work , but for me it's worth extra work.

 

BTW, Jeff, N7YG, is a friend and have met with him on several occasions. A nice guy and always interesting to chat with.

 

Jerry  N9AVY

 

 

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!0M open in to SA from north east PA UTC 18:59

Brian (N2MLP)
 

Working SA stations from PA  fn21

 

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From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jerry N9AVY
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 5:54 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: [070Club] contesting software

 

I would say use whatever you are comfortable with.  Try a few to find out what they're like.

 

I use  MixW 3.2 for every day work, but transfer contacts to ACLog.   I use N1MM for CW & SSB and also xfer it to ACLog. It a bit of extra work , but for me it's worth extra work.

 

BTW, Jeff, N7YG, is a friend and have met with him on several occasions. A nice guy and always interesting to chat with.

 

Jerry  N9AVY

 

 

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Re: FT8 solution

Jerry N9AVY
 

Justin:

I'll venture a guess here ...   Back in the day CW was King and CW transmitters were relatively simple to build.  There was pretty much CW  and some AM, but AM transmitters required more parts and they were cheap in those days. There were 2 kinds of modulation, plate and screen; plate modulation required a plate transformer while screen didn't. If you have ever heard both and compared them there is difference to the ear.

CW is allowed anywhere your licensed to operate.Somewhere along the line the FCC set up portions of the bands for AM operation. Along about late 1950's along came SSB which was about half the bandwidth of AM.  At first hams didn't like SSB and it only took a few short years for everyone to get on board. Today, SSB is the pedominent voice mode, but there are still a few AM stations around.

As for digital modes RTTY was the primary digital mode.  I believe it became more popular post WWII when tons of surplus Model 19 teletype macine became available as Surplus. RTTY was in the portions of the bands below most phone operation (think RTTY operation was put just below phone portions with respect to the DX portions which are below the American phone portion.).

Many of the newer digital modes happened within the last 10-20 years. It would appear that they were just wedged in where ever they could be squeezed in, but that was done under "the band plan"  which is nothing more than a "gentleman's agreement". I would hope that the IARU and/or the WARC would attempt to classify use of the amateur bands by mode.  Whatever is done will have to be on the international scale rather than by U.S. alone.

But for now, we just have to deal with the bands as they are until something is done. Digital modes are under the "Gentlemen's Agreement" and it has worked so far as long as people cooperate, but it does seem that the newest modes have brought a bad attitude towards cooperation.

I might add the contesting does bring about the worst in some operators. CW still has a lot of space and much of it is well used. There is also a lot of CVW DX operation and it is not unusual to see CW station operating "split" anywhere from 1 Khz up from DX station's frequency to as high as 20-25 kHz up. When more than 1 DX station is on the air the lower 25 kHz can be very busy which also drives casual CW operators further up the band.

All this congestion on the bands causes frustration . We're at the solar minimum and as propagtion improves things will get worse.

So, that's my take on your question. Hope I answered and you found what you were looking for.


Jerry  n9avy



From: Justin Mattes--KC2GIK <kc2gik@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 11:18 PM
Subject: [070Club] FT8 solution


I have a serious question to ask and don't need to hear, "...because it's
against the rules". Why can't the digital modes take up more spectrum?
We're cramped while th CW folks have what seems to be a lot more roopm
than the need nor use


Justin Mattes-KC2GIK








FT8 solution

Justin Mattes--KC2GIK
 

I have a serious question to ask and don't need to hear, "...because it's
against the rules". Why can't the digital modes take up more spectrum?
We're cramped while th CW folks have what seems to be a lot more roopm
than the need nor use


Justin Mattes-KC2GIK
http://www.justinmattes.com


Re: FT8 - We have been heard

Charles Odom, KI4VMK # 2542
 

Thanks, Irv for that info appreciate what you did. Sounds like a better response than I got from my Section Manager 
--
Charles, KI4VMK 
#2542 


Re: FT8 - We have been heard

Ray Clements
 


This weekend, I worked FT8 for the very first time. I also worked PSK31 (and PSK63) after being off the air for many months. I had fun working both modes, although PSK is still my favorite. Whereas JT65 was too boring, FT8 is rather hectic as you have precious little time to answer a CQ.

In general, the PSK stations were on their frequencies and the FT8 stations were on their frequencies. There were a couple of incursions. The only time I saw a serious conflict was on 17 meters. Both PSK and FT8 are working at 18.100. However, with the bandwidth assigned to digital stations on 17 meter WARC band ranging only from 18.095-18.105, competition for bandwidth is to be expected.

I believe the incursion of FT8 into the normal .070 frequencies may be due to experimental use of the DXpedition mode. The normal mode uses .074 as the normal frequency for FT8 on the 10m, 15m, 20m, and 40m bands.  
 
Ray N9RWC


------ Original Message ------
Received: 03:31 PM CDT, 03/31/2018
From: "Irv [K3IRV] McWherter" <irv47mc@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: [070Club] FT8 - We have been heard


Today I went to the ARRL NC State Convention held at the Raleigh Amateur Radio Society (RARS) hamfest in Raleigh, NC.  Early in the morning I spoke with Bill Morine N2COP, the Roanoke Division Vice Director, about the frustrations of PSKers with the infringement of the PSK frequencies by the FT8 operators, etc.  The thoughts he shared with me at that time were exactly the same thoughts he later presented to those in attendance at the ARRL Open Forum.

Amateur Radio Operators who send rants to Section Managers, Vice Division Directors and Division Directors in divisions other than their own really do not bear well for the issue at hand.  If you have issues, of any kind on an issue with the ARRL, make those issues known to the people in your section and your division.

The FT8 Issue:

1.  People in leadership positions within the ARRL have received hundreds of emails and letters from people like us expressing their frustration about the blatant disregard for frequency allocation for digital operations, e.g., conflict between PSK and FT8 operations.  They are aware.

2.  The ARRL recommends the frequencies for the different modes, etc, but the ARRL does not regulate operations. 

3.  In coming weeks the ARRL will be providing information in the rules for the ARRL International Grid Chase and for contests that allow FT8 operations explaining the band plans/operating frequencies and encouraging operators to be mindful of others using different modes when operating.

4.  It appears that a significant amount of the offenders are DX stations operating with US stations.  The ARRL does not have any authority over where DX stations operate. 

5.  Official Observers may become involved in monitoring the issue, but unless an individual is a chronic offender and unless the offenses have been documented, probably very little will happen.

The above for sure in not a verbatim of our conversations, or transcripted from a recording.  This is my interpretation of what I felt Bill Morine explained to me and to the ARRL Open Forum.

My thoughts:

A.  Keep up the emails and letters, in a professional manner and tone, to our elected officials asking for intervention in this issue.

B.  Make sure you go to a hamfest or two in your area where the Section Manager and those above him attend and speak to them on the side - one on one - and explain your feelings.  A friend of mine was a staffer for a Senator and he told me politicians look at it like this:  One letter is worth 1,000 phone calls and a face to face discussion is worth 1,000 letters.

73, Irv - K3IRV
#2600








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