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Re: Assistance needed

Paul Butzi (W7PFB)
 

Don’t be too quick to assume that just because you caught a 1k mile contact it’s not really NVIS.  Look at the pattern for an NVIS antenna and you’ll see it still has a fair amount of radiation down around 45 degrees even if the peak of that one big vertical lobe is up at 90 degrees!

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

On Nov 25, 2018, at 4:22 PM, Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@...> wrote:

Called CQ on the NVIS on 40m and worked Karl - K5KHK, 1027 miles at 449 on it.  So I guess the NVIS isn't exactly NVIS.  Back to the drawing board on that one.  Switched to the vertical and he was solid 599.  Thanks Karl! 
--
Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602


Re: Assistance needed

Rick - N7WE
 

Worked Randy W4RTT in Coveington KY - 726 miles on the NVIS.  Solid 599.  The NVIS is a temporary setup because I'm in a HOA.  It is in an inverted V with the apex at about 25 feet and the ends at about 15.  Think I will see if I can lower it someway tomorrow so it is about 15 feet and 8 feet at the ends.  Any and all suggestions greatly appreciated!

Paul - Didn't see you on either the NVIS or the vertical.  Hope you are progressing OK on the 366.  I'll keep trying to work you in the coming days.

Dick - Sounds good.  Hopefully I'll get this thing working locally.

--
Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602


Re: Assistance needed

Richard Rohrer
 

Hi Rick, 

Will be back in FL in a couple of weeks.  Would like to try 40 from Gainesville to your location.

73
Dick - KC3EF

On Sun, Nov 25, 2018, 7:22 PM Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@... wrote:
Called CQ on the NVIS on 40m and worked Karl - K5KHK, 1027 miles at 449 on it.  So I guess the NVIS isn't exactly NVIS.  Back to the drawing board on that one.  Switched to the vertical and he was solid 599.  Thanks Karl! 
--
Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602


Re: Assistance needed

Rick - N7WE
 

Called CQ on the NVIS on 40m and worked Karl - K5KHK, 1027 miles at 449 on it.  So I guess the NVIS isn't exactly NVIS.  Back to the drawing board on that one.  Switched to the vertical and he was solid 599.  Thanks Karl! 
--
Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602


Re: Proper Etiquette Question

Jerry N9AVY
 

Hey Geary :

 

“Auto CQ”  is some that is in MixW  which is my PSK software and it appears in set-up menu, I believe (at wrong computer right now and station is shut down).   Auto CQ is something you can set up easily where you can set the duration to 20, 30 or more seconds: think other software has similar.   It’s just like another macro only it behaves differently  in that when a station responds to your CQ the Auto CQ feature shuts itself down and starts copying the other stations.   I’m a lousy typist and too old and set in my ways to get any better at typing and nothing is worse than typing the same stuff over again and again and wearing your fingers out ; hence , Auto CQ is a great feature.  Your software probably has it, but you’ll have to explore the drop down menus.

 

“IGC”  ???    I Got Cards ???   Not familiar with that abbreviation or my mind has gone to Error 404. Enlighten please.

 

The best way to learn propagation is to just be there on the bands.  Propagation will change from season to season, year to year and sometimes even hourly.  Years ago 20m used to be open all night long. There was a time when 10m would be open to Europe in the early morning hours and there was a net on 28.825 where station all over the globe would gather (like U.S. station working Europe, Africa, New Zealand, Australia, Japan and others. Great times had by all and band would be like that for a couple or more hours.

 

Checking propagation is easy because you just listen to see who is on the air.  There are charts (MUF) which will tell you on what bands have propagation from one area to another,  but I never really put a lot of faith in them.  For me, propagation was, as one old timer put it, it’s like we all live in a big apartment building and when someone opens their window you can talk to them !   …  Don’t think propagation is something which can be learned from a book or taught in a class ,  it more about rolling up your sleeves and doing the work for yourself. However, you can learn the basics of radio wave propagation,  but the actual learning process involves time and patience.  (I was lucky years ago that I had a field service job in several counties in IL/WI where I could name my hours and as long as no one complained everything was cool.  Met my old boss (a ham) a few years ago and confessed there were days I only worked 2 hours and he countered with he was only working one !  But there were some long days where I drove 500 miles and put in lots of hours. ) 

 

Propagation varies from sunspot cycle to cycle as we are now witnessing.  Compared to the 70’s, 80’s and 90’s this cycle is poor.  Learn about indexes like A, K, and solar flux and how those numbers affect radio propagation. This you can get from a book or talking with other hams. Conditions are ever changing and hams need to be on top of it. 

 

As far as being “wordy” goes I seen you on waterfall and don’t think you are .  With propagation being where it is lately, being “wordy” has it’s drawbacks like finding yourself talking to dead air because conditions changed …   happened to a lot of us over the years.

 

Now I’m being wordy ! Hi ! Hi !

 

 

Jerry  n9avy

 

 

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From: Geary McDowell
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2018 10:30 AM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Proper Etiquette Question

 

Hey Jerry, 

I have wondered how some stations "seem to be automated".  I am at my computer for hours daily, reading, researching, etc.  So I play a lot of radio while there too.  I have not seen the "autoca" thingamabob.  I've looked, but prefer to be there, but like to know.  Since I am NOT a contest by the definition of the word, other than I got hooked by this IGC thing, I don't mind moving around on the freq or different bands.  Probably because I don't understand enough about propagation, band conditions, etc and no one in our area cares to help teach it if you are not a serious contester.  So I read, understand somethings, and just have fun.

 

Oh, and are you talking about me?  Sometimes I get too wordy and it seems to take forever to get me signed off.  HI HI HI 

Guilty I am.  HI HI HI

Geary KE5IRK

Lawton-Fort Sill, OK, USA, North America, Earth and the Milky Way

 

 

On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 1:50 PM Jerry N9AVY <n9avy@...> wrote:

Geary and all:

 

It’s easier for me to move rather than get into an argument (unless the other guy is spoiling for one).  A couple weeks ago I called CQ  with my station in <AUTOCQ> mode and there is a 20 second delay between calls .  If a station answers he will unlock the <AUTOCQ> IF his signal is strong enough and not one of those where every 10th character shows up.    Anyhow ,  didn’t get an answeafter 2 or 3 minutes, so went off to look for something else to work; finding nothing, I cruised across my CQ frequency and there was a station calling me !   I made him happy by working him !  Some guys are just slow in responding  or maybe they look up my call to see if it’s legit or whatever.

 

Often in contest type situation the bands will go short/long and you won’t hear a guy who has been running QSOs as long or longer than you. It’s just easier for me to move a bit.  Even though I may have been running the frequency if another station calls the station I’m working and not contesting, I’ll tell the guy I worked to “go ahead and have the frequency”.  It’s just common courtesy.   There is never a life/death situation where the frequency can’t be relinquished.  (unless the breaking station says “ It’s great to work you for the 12th time this week !”… then I will be a problem !  Hi !  Hi  !

 

A little bit of courtesy goes a log way. 

 

Jerry   n9avy

 

Next subject ….   What’s with those guys who take 2 or 3 paragraphs to say goodbye ??? Hi !  Hi !

 

 

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From: Geary McDowell
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 10:40 AM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Proper Etiquette Question

 

Good question Rick especially for those of us who have not done a lot of HF in the past.  I have a small weak station and try (mostly due to my raising) to be courteous and if a station starts calling where I have been a good while I just move.  They are usually a stronger station, and often a contester when I look them up (which I am not in sense of the word), hence I hop around a LOT on the freqs. and bands. I like Jerry's answer, it makes sense.  The last Field Day I organized our "contester" guy had been hammering at one freq for hours racking up contacts like crazy, he always logged more than the rest of the club combined.  An east coast station started coming in and they had an ugly heated argument about who owned the freq.  Both claiming to have been on that SSB frequency all day.  I figured the bands shifted a little or conditions changes.  But I am still yet new to this as it is my hobby, not my job or life.  HI HI I finally told our guy to move a bit or change bands.  It is a hobby, not life or death as some seem to think.  One thing I like about FT8 and maybe PSK in a different way, is you can call them then stand by one or two tx cycles and watch what they are doing to see if they are taking others or if you should call them again or move on.  I often do that, or call CQ and in a bit they are calling me.

73 Geary KE5IRK 070#1787

 

On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 5:08 AM Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@...> wrote:

Need some advice about what's proper!  In chasing grids I see some calls that I really, really want.  They answered a CQ from another station that has been on the frequency and working stations for some time.  So I wait patiently for them to SK and then.....?  Do I call on the frequency they were on?  Do I call the station I want on their frequency, but say something like "up 100"?  Do I move up/down 50 - 100 Hz and call the station?  Do I just go ahead and run the contact on the frequency the CQing station was on?  What's the right way to get that station I need?  All opinions and suggestions welcome!
--
Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602


 

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Re: Proper Etiquette Question

Geary McDowell
 

Hey Jerry, 
I have wondered how some stations "seem to be automated".  I am at my computer for hours daily, reading, researching, etc.  So I play a lot of radio while there too.  I have not seen the "autoca" thingamabob.  I've looked, but prefer to be there, but like to know.  Since I am NOT a contest by the definition of the word, other than I got hooked by this IGC thing, I don't mind moving around on the freq or different bands.  Probably because I don't understand enough about propagation, band conditions, etc and no one in our area cares to help teach it if you are not a serious contester.  So I read, understand somethings, and just have fun.

Oh, and are you talking about me?  Sometimes I get too wordy and it seems to take forever to get me signed off.  HI HI HI 
Guilty I am.  HI HI HI
Geary KE5IRK
Lawton-Fort Sill, OK, USA, North America, Earth and the Milky Way


On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 1:50 PM Jerry N9AVY <n9avy@...> wrote:

Geary and all:

 

It’s easier for me to move rather than get into an argument (unless the other guy is spoiling for one).  A couple weeks ago I called CQ  with my station in <AUTOCQ> mode and there is a 20 second delay between calls .  If a station answers he will unlock the <AUTOCQ> IF his signal is strong enough and not one of those where every 10th character shows up.    Anyhow ,  didn’t get an answeafter 2 or 3 minutes, so went off to look for something else to work; finding nothing, I cruised across my CQ frequency and there was a station calling me !   I made him happy by working him !  Some guys are just slow in responding  or maybe they look up my call to see if it’s legit or whatever.

 

Often in contest type situation the bands will go short/long and you won’t hear a guy who has been running QSOs as long or longer than you. It’s just easier for me to move a bit.  Even though I may have been running the frequency if another station calls the station I’m working and not contesting, I’ll tell the guy I worked to “go ahead and have the frequency”.  It’s just common courtesy.   There is never a life/death situation where the frequency can’t be relinquished.  (unless the breaking station says “ It’s great to work you for the 12th time this week !”… then I will be a problem !  Hi !  Hi  !

 

A little bit of courtesy goes a log way. 

 

Jerry   n9avy

 

Next subject ….   What’s with those guys who take 2 or 3 paragraphs to say goodbye ??? Hi !  Hi !

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Geary McDowell
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 10:40 AM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Proper Etiquette Question

 

Good question Rick especially for those of us who have not done a lot of HF in the past.  I have a small weak station and try (mostly due to my raising) to be courteous and if a station starts calling where I have been a good while I just move.  They are usually a stronger station, and often a contester when I look them up (which I am not in sense of the word), hence I hop around a LOT on the freqs. and bands. I like Jerry's answer, it makes sense.  The last Field Day I organized our "contester" guy had been hammering at one freq for hours racking up contacts like crazy, he always logged more than the rest of the club combined.  An east coast station started coming in and they had an ugly heated argument about who owned the freq.  Both claiming to have been on that SSB frequency all day.  I figured the bands shifted a little or conditions changes.  But I am still yet new to this as it is my hobby, not my job or life.  HI HI I finally told our guy to move a bit or change bands.  It is a hobby, not life or death as some seem to think.  One thing I like about FT8 and maybe PSK in a different way, is you can call them then stand by one or two tx cycles and watch what they are doing to see if they are taking others or if you should call them again or move on.  I often do that, or call CQ and in a bit they are calling me.

73 Geary KE5IRK 070#1787

 

On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 5:08 AM Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@...> wrote:

Need some advice about what's proper!  In chasing grids I see some calls that I really, really want.  They answered a CQ from another station that has been on the frequency and working stations for some time.  So I wait patiently for them to SK and then.....?  Do I call on the frequency they were on?  Do I call the station I want on their frequency, but say something like "up 100"?  Do I move up/down 50 - 100 Hz and call the station?  Do I just go ahead and run the contact on the frequency the CQing station was on?  What's the right way to get that station I need?  All opinions and suggestions welcome!
--
Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602


 

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When all else fails, Amateur Radio works.


Re: Proper Etiquette Question

Geary McDowell
 

David I agree.  It took over an hour to get our guy to move and stop calling on that freq.  We could finally hear the east coast station.  Our guy did fine when he moved, he still logged over 400 personal contacts that day.  Wore me out watching him.
Geary KE5IRK

On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 12:55 PM David Rock <david@...> wrote:

> On Nov 24, 2018, at 10:39, Geary McDowell <ke5irk@...> wrote:
>
>  An east coast station started coming in and they had an ugly heated argument about who owned the freq.  Both claiming to have been on that SSB frequency all day.  I figured the bands shifted a little or conditions changes. 

That happens all the time.  It’s very likely true that both have been there the whole time and just didn’t hear each other.
Especially with PSK, there’s plenty of room to move around.  It’s not worth arguing because there are no winners that way.


— 
David, K9DWR
#1604 LONP #255
david@...






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Re: Proper Etiquette Question

Geary McDowell
 

Thanks Barry, and I enjoy the contacts we have had on digital.
I got into HAM radio as a weather enthusiast and found there was sooooooooooooo much more.
I was kept out of the hobby for almost 30 years as I could not get the CW.
I have a music background, have the brains, just could not get it, it sounds very similar to me.
After I passed my General about eleven years ago I finally had a hearing test due to issues at work, working with kids ages 5 to 10.
Found I have a significant hearing loss in decoding or distinguishing certain sounds, hence I am one of the dreaded NO HAMs.  HI HI
My Heil 7 Pro headset helps greatly with SSB, but the attitude I was listening to was not what I expected of HAMs.
I continued to try to work the Texas 7290 traffic net some, but with major SWR issues had to give that up for a while.
Since my SWR issues disappeared after nine years just like they started, I have listened to some, but still prefer digital.
I prefer PSK, but am enjoying all the contacts on FT8, although QSLing is killing me.  HI HI  
A nice problem to have.  With less than 300 contacts during the SWR issue years to over 11,000 this year!
This morning I have had two stations I watch calling in a different place on the band, they would answer my CQ, then would start calling CQ where I had been for a good while.  I just moved to a less busy spot or changed bands for more variety.  HI HI
I am going to have fun with radio, I do get perturbed at those who will not move on through the process and demand a step by step sequence, especially previous contacts, but my set up, and I have tried to find where to change it, has a different process than some seem to on FT8.  I keep trying to follow their "needs" and it works or I log and move on.  HI HI
Have fun everyone.  It if gets you too uptight crochet or something else.  HI HI HI HI HI HI HI
73 Geary KE5IRK 

On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 12:17 PM VA7GEM -1470 via Groups.Io <boat.anchor=yahoo.ca@groups.io> wrote:
Geary
Totally agree. It is a hobby. Have fun. If that freq is
so important to the jerk just shift a bit.
There is lots of room for all of us. That being said
the general attitude and fine manners displayed
on the voice segments are what drove me to seek out 
the digital modes and 30M & 17M in particular. Unfortunately
those are now populated by FT8 but that phenomenon will
pass as the propagation cycle swings up again.
I am only sticking around while I am having fun.
I control the ON/OFF switch.
cheers de Barry


On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 08:40 AM, Geary McDowell wrote:
It is a hobby, not life or death as some seem to think.  
73 Geary KE5IRK 070#1787



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When all else fails, Amateur Radio works.


Re: Assistance needed

Rick - N7WE
 

Looks like I picked a bad weekend to experiment.  I did switch over to the vertical and caught a brief glance of a W6 before he was covered up by a CW.  Was there a Black Friday sale on amps???????  Hi hi!  Hanging it up for tonight.
--
Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602


Re: Assistance needed

Paul Milward <nu4c@...>
 

Me too. Only CW



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-------- Original message --------
From: Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@...>
Date: 11/24/18 19:04 (GMT-05:00)
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Assistance needed

On the NVIS and calling.  Not seeing anything except CW
--
Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602


Re: Assistance needed

Rick - N7WE
 

On the NVIS and calling.  Not seeing anything except CW
--
Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602


Re: Assistance needed

Randy True
 

40 is currently RUUUUUUFF

Randy W4RTT


From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Paul Milward <nu4c@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 3:38 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Assistance needed
 
Rick
I will be there on 40m about 00:00 tonite. I hope we can hear each other
73
Paul NU4C 



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-------- Original message --------
From: Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@...>
Date: 11/24/18 14:23 (GMT-05:00)
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Assistance needed

Hey Paul-
I've got wire in the air!  And it tunes up on 40m.  Inverted V with the apex at about 20' and the ends about 15' so not sure how it will do, but in theory it should be NVIS.  It will be interesting to see if your vertical will pick me up. But my cloud warmer may not  hear you because of your low takeoff angle.  Anyway, should be fun to try.  I'll be on 40m just after 0000 UTC.  Hope to work you!

Anyone else on 40m this evening that hears me, pls give a call.  Would like to do an A/B comparison of the vertical and the NVIS.  40m may be tough tonight with the CQ WW CW going on.  But I'll be there trying!

--
Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602


Re: Assistance needed

Paul Milward <nu4c@...>
 

Rick
I will be there on 40m about 00:00 tonite. I hope we can hear each other
73
Paul NU4C 



Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A

-------- Original message --------
From: Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@...>
Date: 11/24/18 14:23 (GMT-05:00)
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Assistance needed

Hey Paul-
I've got wire in the air!  And it tunes up on 40m.  Inverted V with the apex at about 20' and the ends about 15' so not sure how it will do, but in theory it should be NVIS.  It will be interesting to see if your vertical will pick me up. But my cloud warmer may not  hear you because of your low takeoff angle.  Anyway, should be fun to try.  I'll be on 40m just after 0000 UTC.  Hope to work you!

Anyone else on 40m this evening that hears me, pls give a call.  Would like to do an A/B comparison of the vertical and the NVIS.  40m may be tough tonight with the CQ WW CW going on.  But I'll be there trying!

--
Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602


Re: Proper Etiquette Question

Jerry N9AVY
 

Amen Barry !!!

 

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From: VA7GEM -1470 via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 12:17 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Proper Etiquette Question

 

Geary
Totally agree. It is a hobby. Have fun. If that freq is
so important to the jerk just shift a bit.
There is lots of room for all of us. That being said
the general attitude and fine manners displayed
on the voice segments are what drove me to seek out 
the digital modes and 30M & 17M in particular. Unfortunately
those are now populated by FT8 but that phenomenon will
pass as the propagation cycle swings up again.
I am only sticking around while I am having fun.
I control the ON/OFF switch.
cheers de Barry


On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 08:40 AM, Geary McDowell wrote:

It is a hobby, not life or death as some seem to think.  

73 Geary KE5IRK 070#1787

 


Re: Proper Etiquette Question

Jerry N9AVY
 

Geary and all:

 

It’s easier for me to move rather than get into an argument (unless the other guy is spoiling for one).  A couple weeks ago I called CQ  with my station in <AUTOCQ> mode and there is a 20 second delay between calls .  If a station answers he will unlock the <AUTOCQ> IF his signal is strong enough and not one of those where every 10th character shows up.    Anyhow ,  didn’t get an answeafter 2 or 3 minutes, so went off to look for something else to work; finding nothing, I cruised across my CQ frequency and there was a station calling me !   I made him happy by working him !  Some guys are just slow in responding  or maybe they look up my call to see if it’s legit or whatever.

 

Often in contest type situation the bands will go short/long and you won’t hear a guy who has been running QSOs as long or longer than you. It’s just easier for me to move a bit.  Even though I may have been running the frequency if another station calls the station I’m working and not contesting, I’ll tell the guy I worked to “go ahead and have the frequency”.  It’s just common courtesy.   There is never a life/death situation where the frequency can’t be relinquished.  (unless the breaking station says “ It’s great to work you for the 12th time this week !”… then I will be a problem !  Hi !  Hi  !

 

A little bit of courtesy goes a log way. 

 

Jerry   n9avy

 

Next subject ….   What’s with those guys who take 2 or 3 paragraphs to say goodbye ??? Hi !  Hi !

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Geary McDowell
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 10:40 AM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Proper Etiquette Question

 

Good question Rick especially for those of us who have not done a lot of HF in the past.  I have a small weak station and try (mostly due to my raising) to be courteous and if a station starts calling where I have been a good while I just move.  They are usually a stronger station, and often a contester when I look them up (which I am not in sense of the word), hence I hop around a LOT on the freqs. and bands. I like Jerry's answer, it makes sense.  The last Field Day I organized our "contester" guy had been hammering at one freq for hours racking up contacts like crazy, he always logged more than the rest of the club combined.  An east coast station started coming in and they had an ugly heated argument about who owned the freq.  Both claiming to have been on that SSB frequency all day.  I figured the bands shifted a little or conditions changes.  But I am still yet new to this as it is my hobby, not my job or life.  HI HI I finally told our guy to move a bit or change bands.  It is a hobby, not life or death as some seem to think.  One thing I like about FT8 and maybe PSK in a different way, is you can call them then stand by one or two tx cycles and watch what they are doing to see if they are taking others or if you should call them again or move on.  I often do that, or call CQ and in a bit they are calling me.

73 Geary KE5IRK 070#1787

 

On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 5:08 AM Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@...> wrote:

Need some advice about what's proper!  In chasing grids I see some calls that I really, really want.  They answered a CQ from another station that has been on the frequency and working stations for some time.  So I wait patiently for them to SK and then.....?  Do I call on the frequency they were on?  Do I call the station I want on their frequency, but say something like "up 100"?  Do I move up/down 50 - 100 Hz and call the station?  Do I just go ahead and run the contact on the frequency the CQing station was on?  What's the right way to get that station I need?  All opinions and suggestions welcome!
--
Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602


 

--

When all else fails, Amateur Radio works.

 


Re: Assistance needed

Rick - N7WE
 

Hey Paul-
I've got wire in the air!  And it tunes up on 40m.  Inverted V with the apex at about 20' and the ends about 15' so not sure how it will do, but in theory it should be NVIS.  It will be interesting to see if your vertical will pick me up. But my cloud warmer may not  hear you because of your low takeoff angle.  Anyway, should be fun to try.  I'll be on 40m just after 0000 UTC.  Hope to work you!

Anyone else on 40m this evening that hears me, pls give a call.  Would like to do an A/B comparison of the vertical and the NVIS.  40m may be tough tonight with the CQ WW CW going on.  But I'll be there trying!

--
Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602


Re: KC3EF Tomorrows Grids

VA7GEM -1470 <boat.anchor@...>
 

On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 10:48 AM, Richard Rohrer wrote:
Barry,
 
Say you calling CQ, but could not raise you.  
 
73
Dick
Baahhh
enjoy the trip
Barry


Re: Proper Etiquette Question

David, K9DWR
 

On Nov 24, 2018, at 10:39, Geary McDowell <ke5irk@gmail.com> wrote:

An east coast station started coming in and they had an ugly heated argument about who owned the freq. Both claiming to have been on that SSB frequency all day. I figured the bands shifted a little or conditions changes.
That happens all the time. It’s very likely true that both have been there the whole time and just didn’t hear each other.
Especially with PSK, there’s plenty of room to move around. It’s not worth arguing because there are no winners that way.



David, K9DWR
#1604 LONP #255
david@graniteweb.com


Re: KC3EF Tomorrows Grids

Richard Rohrer
 

Barry,

Say you calling CQ, but could not raise you.  

73
Dick

On Sat, Nov 24, 2018, 12:23 PM Richard Rohrer <kc3ef1@... wrote:
Calling you on 14.071.959.

On Sat, Nov 24, 2018, 12:14 PM Richard Rohrer <kc3ef1@... wrote:
On now Barry, but not seeing any thing but cw.  

Dick

On Sat, Nov 24, 2018, 12:11 PM VA7GEM -1470 via Groups.Io <boat.anchor=yahoo.ca@groups.io wrote:
Dick
It is 17:10 and I am trying but band is quiet.
Safe travels
Barry

On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 07:27 PM, Richard Rohrer wrote:
We will be leaving DE tomorrow and heading down the Eastern shore of MD and VA to NC.  Will be active in FM29 DE, FM28 DE & MD, FM27 VA, FM26 VA & NC, and FM25 NC.  We will be starting the journey around 1400 GMT.  I know VA7GEM is looking for FM27 and we should be entering the grid around 1630 GMT.  

73
Dick - KC3EF
070 - 747


Re: Proper Etiquette Question

VA7GEM -1470 <boat.anchor@...>
 

Geary
Totally agree. It is a hobby. Have fun. If that freq is
so important to the jerk just shift a bit.
There is lots of room for all of us. That being said
the general attitude and fine manners displayed
on the voice segments are what drove me to seek out 
the digital modes and 30M & 17M in particular. Unfortunately
those are now populated by FT8 but that phenomenon will
pass as the propagation cycle swings up again.
I am only sticking around while I am having fun.
I control the ON/OFF switch.
cheers de Barry


On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 08:40 AM, Geary McDowell wrote:
It is a hobby, not life or death as some seem to think.  
73 Geary KE5IRK 070#1787

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