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TDW

K5SIT BOB <k5sit@...>
 

I vote NO for the survey.

de k5sit 73 es gud dx


Re: Delaware PSK Operation:

JHudak3rd@...
 

I'll be looking for you. I need DE. Good luck and have a safe trip.

de KA3X


Delaware PSK Operation:

AA8QQ@...
 

Hi all,

For those who haven't heard, I am hoping to drive into DE, park the car,
and setup PSK31 portable ops for a couple (or few) hours. If I go there, it
will most likely be the 19th or 20th of May. It would be nice to know in
advance how many people need DE for WAS PSK before I finalize my plans. Just
think, here's a twofer, work DE for "Lower 48" and work AA8QQ fer the "Hot
Dog" award. Hey Jay, that counts, doesn't it (AA8QQ/3 fer Hot Dog)?

Please drop me an email to AA8QQ@aol.com to let me know. I'm on AOL and I
don't get all of the reflector traffic.

73 cu on the screen,
de AA8QQ - Jay


Re: 070 Club survey: TDW on the WARC bands

Stu <mm0bsm@...>
 

No on the use of warc to stop others complaining maybe we can have skeds on
the warc bands at an other date
Stu MM0BSM

----- Original Message -----
From: <N3DQU@aol.com>
To: <070@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2001 5:52 AM
Subject: [070] 070 Club survey: TDW on the WARC bands


Ok guys, looks like I am suddenly hearing nays for running the TDW on
the
WARC bands, so let's have an official survey to see where the group
stands:

QUESTION: Should the 070 Club include the WARC bands for the upcoming
Three Day Weekend?

Lemme know what you guys want to do...The 070 Club wouldn't be the 070
Club without yunz!....Jay, N3DQU.

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Re: WARC Band Activity

AA8QQ@...
 

Jay,
I have to agree with they no's on this one. I think a certificate for the
WARC bands would be the way to go. A little more incentive than an
endorsement, even tho you need another frame for it. Or maybe that's the big
deal about the endorsements, the fact that you Don't need another frame and
wallspace for it.

AA8QQ - Jay


Re: 070 Club survey: TDW on the WARC bands

jjbaker <jjbaker@...>
 

I vote no, but the warc bands could use the activity. I never see any sigs
when I look at 17 meter band. We need to do something to boost activity and
it not be a contest.

Jeff Baker (KG4ENR)


Re: 070 Club survey: TDW on the WARC bands

packet2@...
 

Jay.

It will be a mistake to use the WARC bands for contesting or for any
other unauthorized use.

Onis K5COX


Re: 070 Club survey: TDW on the WARC bands

n1zzz@...
 

NO!  We should exclude the WARC from the TDW

Jeremy N1ZZZ/4


Re: TDW Update and other stuff

Alan M. Eshleman <doctore@...>
 

Contesting on the WARC bands is a very bad idea. I would never take part
because because I would not want to be identified as tacitly
approving. I can almost guarantee that if you do it you will become the
focus of a very unpleasant controversy.

Alan/K6SRZ


Re: TDW Update and other stuff

Bob <k3cko@...>
 

I agree with you Bob. I will not be on the WARC bands either. I can have
enough fun with the standard bands.

Bob K3CKO

----- Original Message -----
From: "K5SIT BOB" <k5sit@pldi.net>
To: <070@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2001 6:11 PM
Subject: Re: [070] TDW Update and other stuff


Hi all,

I talked to a local ham about this.
He said it was an international agreement not just the ARRL.
I for one will NOT be on 12m or17m for the contest.
I think we will be looking for trouble if we do.
I am not a big gun. I am running 20w to ground mounted vertical.
I hope to see all of u on 20m, 15m and 10m or early on 80m and 40m 06:00
CDT.
I still need two hotdogs. KA3X and N3XC.
Where are u guys?????

Have a gud weekend cul.

de k5sit 73


070 Club survey: TDW on the WARC bands

N3DQU@...
 

Ok guys, looks like I am suddenly hearing nays for running the TDW on the
WARC bands, so let's have an official survey to see where the group stands:

QUESTION: Should the 070 Club include the WARC bands for the upcoming
Three Day Weekend?

Lemme know what you guys want to do...The 070 Club wouldn't be the 070
Club without yunz!....Jay, N3DQU.


TDW

tgstoopssr@...
 

Hi Bob...I'm right here.....hope to see you and alot of other 070's on the
TDW soon...I will be on 10 - 15 - 20 - 40 - 80 mtrs ONLY......cu then...de
n3xc


Re: TDW Update and other stuff

Bill Duffy <bjduffy2@...>
 

Sorry to hear of the plans to contest on 12 & 17. I wish you would rethink
this decision. I feel an ugly box would be opened up.
Bill
KA0VXK

----- Original Message -----
From: <N3DQU@aol.com>
To: <070@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2001 13:40 PM
Subject: [070] TDW Update and other stuff


Looks like Frank VK3BFC, who was to be a designated bonus station for
the
TDW will not be able to participate due to other plans at home. If there
is a
DX station out there who would like to take over Frank's slot as a bonus
station, please send an email to N3DQU@aol.com with your request.
Also, from the comments received about holding the TDW on 17 and 12m,
it
appears that the ayes far outnumber the nays. So as it stands now, we will
still run the TDW on the WARC bands as originally planned, 30m excluded of
course.
If the Yahoo reflector seems unusually quiet, it is because messages
are
still not getting thru in a timely manner, especially for aol addressees.
I
am still waiting for word from Yahoo about the problem. Sorry for the
inconvenience. Jay, N3DQU.

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Re: TDW Update and other stuff

K5SIT BOB <k5sit@...>
 

Hi all,

I talked to a local ham about this.
He said it was an international agreement not just the ARRL.
I for one will NOT be on 12m or17m for the contest.
I think we will be looking for trouble if we do.
I am not a big gun. I am running 20w to ground mounted vertical.
I hope to see all of u on 20m, 15m and 10m or early on 80m and 40m 06:00
CDT.
I still need two hotdogs. KA3X and N3XC.
Where are u guys?????

Have a gud weekend cul.

de k5sit 73

----- Original Message -----
From: <ny2u@n2ty.org>
To: <070@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2001 16:01 PM
Subject: Re: [070] TDW Update and other stuff


In a message dated 05/12/2001 14:40:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
N3DQU@aol.com writes:


Also, from the comments received about holding the TDW on 17 and 12m, it
appears that the ayes far outnumber the nays. So as it stands now, we
will
still run the TDW on the WARC bands as originally planned, 30m excluded
of
course.
Helly Jay & 070 Club Members:

I've sat back now for a few days trying to digest all the input you've
received here on the PODXS 070 Reflector and I must say I'm really
surprised!
However, NOT pleasantly surprised!! I'll try to explain myself.

It seems that a number of those that have replied to the question about
using
the WARC Bands for your upcoming contests are in favor of this practice.
To
me this is totally mind blowing! I mean, why would any of our digital
users
want to break a "gentleman's agreement" that's been in existence since US
Amateurs were permitted use of the WARC Bands? Does this mean I'm in total
agreement with this gentlemen's agreement....NO! Does this mean that I
don't
think the digital users could use additional band allocations...NO! So,
what
does this really mean? I think by contesting on the WARC BANDS in any way,
shape or form, clearly sends a message of disrespect. Like them or not,
gentlemen's agreements have been part of Amateur Radio for more years then
I
care to think about.

Take a look at a lot of our DX windows for example, I know a good share of
you like to chase DX. What if I began to tell folks on here to "just go
ahead
and start a ragchew net in the middle of the 20 Meter DX window," would
any
of you find this wrong? Or, how about holding a SSTV Net on 3.800 KHz?
Nothing the matter with this, right? After all--a good number of you have
already expressed that they don't give a hoot about some lousy old
"gentlemen's agreements!" Maybe we should encourage more of our HF Packet
users to fire up their "rap-blapppp boxes" right on 14.070 MHz, after all
they shouldn't worry about any gentlemen's agreement crapola.

Well, my friends, I hope you'll do a little rethinking before you take
actions that could reflect negatively on all of us PSK'ers. One of your
very
own members Rich, W3ZJ, said it right--"There is enough space for
contesting
without infringing on the WARC bands. We can and should honor the original
gentlemen's agreement and keep all contests off the WARC bands without
exception." Another reply to the WARC Band conversation came from John,
AG4CZ, who said the following, "However, the 'gentleman's agreement' has
one
big point going for it. It rules out the whole discussion of how much
contesting is too much on these bands. By following it there is no
decision
to be made nor line to creep forward. More appropriate to answer may be,
do
we want to be the one's who broke the 'agreement'?

In closing... I hope that NOBODY gets their nose out of shape over what
I've
just said. Yes, its how I truly feel and I thought that I would share it
with
you folks. If you're head strong on change, do it the right way! I think
the
PODXS 070 Club has a lot to offer this hobby. I also believe you've gained
a
lot of attention in the short period of time you've been
in existence. The actions you're about to take could have lasting
repercussions!

Thank you for you time and I hope to print you soon.

73 de NY2U Bill Eddy
ny2u@n2ty.org



Re: TDW Update and other stuff

n1zzz@...
 

I for one, all joking aside, will only be on 10, 15, and 20 mtrs for the TDW.
 I hope to see you all there.

73's

Jeremy N1ZZZ/4


Re: TDW Update and other stuff

ny2u@...
 

In a message dated 05/12/2001 14:40:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
N3DQU@... writes:


Also, from the comments received about holding the TDW on 17 and 12m, it
appears that the ayes far outnumber the nays. So as it stands now, we will
still run the TDW on the WARC bands as originally planned, 30m excluded of
course.
  


Helly Jay & 070 Club Members:

I've sat back now for a few days trying to digest all the input you've
received here on the PODXS 070 Reflector and I must say I'm really surprised!
However, NOT pleasantly surprised!! I'll try to explain myself.

It seems that a number of those that have replied to the question about using
the WARC Bands for your upcoming contests are in favor of this practice. To
me this is totally mind blowing! I mean, why would any of our digital users
want to break a "gentleman's agreement" that's been in existence since US
Amateurs were permitted use of the WARC Bands? Does this mean I'm in total
agreement with this gentlemen's agreement....NO!  Does this mean that I don't
think the digital users could use additional band allocations...NO! So, what
does this really mean? I think by contesting on the WARC BANDS in any way,
shape or form, clearly sends a message of disrespect. Like them or not,
gentlemen's agreements have been part of Amateur Radio for more years then I
care to think about.

Take a look at a lot of our DX windows for example, I know a good share of
you like to chase DX. What if I began to tell folks on here to "just go ahead
and start a ragchew net in the middle of the 20 Meter DX window," would any
of you find this wrong? Or, how about holding a SSTV Net on 3.800 KHz?
Nothing the matter with this, right? After all--a good number of you have
already expressed that they don't give a hoot about some lousy old
"gentlemen's agreements!" Maybe we should encourage more of our HF Packet
users to fire up their "rap-blapppp boxes" right on 14.070 MHz, after all
they shouldn't worry about any gentlemen's agreement crapola.

Well, my friends, I hope you'll do a little rethinking before you take
actions that could reflect negatively on all of us PSK'ers. One of your very
own members Rich, W3ZJ, said it right--"
There is enough space for contesting
without infringing on the WARC bands. We can and should honor the original
gentlemen's agreement and keep all contests off the WARC bands without
exception."  Another reply to the WARC Band conversation came from John,
AG4CZ, who said the following, "However, the 'gentleman's agreement' has one
big point going for it. It rules out the whole discussion of how much
contesting is too much on these bands. By following it there is no decision
to be made nor line to creep forward. More appropriate to answer may be, do
we want to be the one's who broke the 'agreement'?

In closing... I hope that NOBODY gets their nose out of shape over what I've
just said. Yes, its how I truly feel and I thought that I would share it with
you folks. If you're head strong on change, do it the right way! I think the
PODXS 070 Club has a lot to offer this hobby. I also believe you've gained a
lot of attention in the short period of time you've been
in existence. The actions you're about to take could have lasting
repercussions!

Thank you for you time and I hope to print you soon.

73 de NY2U Bill Eddy
ny2u@...


  


TDW Update and other stuff

N3DQU@...
 

Looks like Frank VK3BFC, who was to be a designated bonus station for the
TDW will not be able to participate due to other plans at home. If there is a
DX station out there who would like to take over Frank's slot as a bonus
station, please send an email to N3DQU@aol.com with your request.
Also, from the comments received about holding the TDW on 17 and 12m, it
appears that the ayes far outnumber the nays. So as it stands now, we will
still run the TDW on the WARC bands as originally planned, 30m excluded of
course.
If the Yahoo reflector seems unusually quiet, it is because messages are
still not getting thru in a timely manner, especially for aol addressees. I
am still waiting for word from Yahoo about the problem. Sorry for the
inconvenience. Jay, N3DQU.


Re: WARC BANDS

Jay Budzowski <n3dqu@...>
 

--- n1zzz@aol.com wrote:
Instead of a "contest," we could run a "propagation
experiment to see how
PSK31 fairs on various bands to certain stations
around the world." "Points"
could be awarded to determine how each station/area
worked other
"experimental" stations. *wink wink*

Jeremy "The Sleeper" Allen N1ZZZ/4
Hey Jeremy, I like that idea...after all, psk is a
fairly new mode, needs lotsa testin' to be sure! Jay.

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Re: WARC BANDS

n1zzz@...
 

Instead of a "contest,"  we could run a "propagation experiment to see how
PSK31 fairs on various bands to certain stations around the world."  "Points"
could be awarded to determine how each station/area worked other
"experimental" stations. *wink wink*

Jeremy "The Sleeper"  Allen N1ZZZ/4


WARC-Bands

DL2AYL@...
 

Hi,

don't you think our 3-day weekend is more some kind of family event than a
contest? We don't have to call it contest since it isn't open to all.
Hope to see you on 12 and 17 meters!
73's Erika/DL2AYL