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Re: IC-7300 with Fldigi - setup for PSK-31

 

Doug,

Looking at those instructions for the FTDX10 looks like they are saying to turn on your processor.  Under no circumstances use processing, you'll wipe out the waterfall.  I have two Yaesu rigs and processing cannot be turned on in the data modes.  The FTDX10 is a great rig but they must be using some other method for the data modes.
The method I use was suggested to me by an ARRL OO years ago and that was to run the rig at full power, 100 watts and adjust the power out with the mic gain for the desired output.  Doing it that way I would have to boost the mic gain to put out 80 or 90 watts before I showed ALC and start to splash.

John
KC3FL


Re: IC-7300 with Fldigi - setup for PSK-31

Jerry N9AVY
 

Not true of my FT-1000MP.   Adjust mic gain until no indication on ALC meter.  

Jerry   n9avy  #454

On Thursday, June 24, 2021, 09:41:03 AM CDT, Mike W4BZM <behrcave@...> wrote:


I repeated see the admonition to adjust the audio until the ALC just start to move, and then adjust it back down to where the ALC doesn’t move at all.  While this method may be appropriate for Icom rigs, Yaesu seems to use a different philosophy for their ALC display.  There is a zone to the the left which displays permissible operation and a zone to the right which should be avoided.  So the procedure is to adjust the audio drive so the ALC indication stays in high side of the left zone .  (See attachment from the FTDX-10 Operating Manual.)  I’ve used this method for years on my FT-991 and am now using it on the FTDX-10, and I consistently get good signal reports.  

Mike W4BZM


Re: IC-7300 with Fldigi - setup for PSK-31

Mike W4BZM
 

I repeated see the admonition to adjust the audio until the ALC just start to move, and then adjust it back down to where the ALC doesn’t move at all.  While this method may be appropriate for Icom rigs, Yaesu seems to use a different philosophy for their ALC display.  There is a zone to the the left which displays permissible operation and a zone to the right which should be avoided.  So the procedure is to adjust the audio drive so the ALC indication stays in high side of the left zone .  (See attachment from the FTDX-10 Operating Manual.)  I’ve used this method for years on my FT-991 and am now using it on the FTDX-10, and I consistently get good signal reports.  

Mike W4BZM


Re: Trying to wrap up PODX 070 366 endorsement

DAVE KB3RAN 1692/381
 

Okay, guys.  I'm down to 3 days needed. And the 25th and 26th are 2 of them.  I'll be on the air tonight to get one of them (364) and tomorrow night for the 365.  August 23 is my 366 and I'll be operating from West Quoddy Head Lighthouse for International Lighthouse/Lightship Weekend if my plans work. That's going to be an APE, an ILLW  and a 366 operation and nearly my birthday.  Hope it all works.

Look for my CQ 366 call tonight and tomorrow.  I will be on the air Field Day weekend and will come out of FD mode to make a 366 contact for those needing one.

See you on the waterfall.

Dave
KB3RAN
2692/381
APE Event Mgr.

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Dave H KB3RAN 1692/381


FT8

Jerry N9AVY
 

Thanks all for straightening me out on FT8 being a weak signal mode and not a low power mode.

Jerry   n9avy


Re: Trying to wrap up PODX 070 366 endorsement

Bob Motyl KK6KMU
 

Gerry,
Saw you tonight in a QSO with John.  I was in  a QSO myself.  When I finally got back to it you were gone.  Will see you again I'm sure

Bob
KK6KMU


Re: PODXS made ARRL Contest letter !

TG Frerichs
 

Jerry,

FT8 is a weak signal mode, not necessarily a low power mode. It's easy to confuse, but one is on the receiving end and the other is on the transmitting end.

Of course, we should only use as much power as necessary to maintain a contact.  But that's true of all modes.

Tom Frerichs
AE0GQ


Re: IC-7300 with Fldigi - setup for PSK-31

 

Generally if you show Zero ALC your signal will be clean.  You can ask the other station for your IMD and S/N and tell from that.  The closer the IMD is to the negative value of the S/N, the cleaner the signal.  Better yet if the other station is running Fldigi, have them bring up the Spectrum Scope and take a screenshot of it and have them email it to you.  Here is a good website that explains how to set your audio drive. 


John
KC3FL


Re: Trying to wrap up PODX 070 366 endorsement

Geary McDowell
 

Hey Bob, KK6KMU, thank you.  I am NOT a contester or award seeker.  I just have fun getting on the air when I can be based on conditions (the atmosphere and mine)  HI HI HI.  I'll look for you.  I am going to be on as much as possible to also help others needing a log contact or just the chat.  I started out just making contacts having fun, one day I submitted my log to the log checker and WOW, when did I do all those?  HI HI HI  Since I try to get on several times a week and daily if possible.  You and I have had a few QSOs in the past, but none this year!  We will resolve that.  Thanks for the help and keep having fun, I am.
73 Geary KE5IRK

On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 1:19 PM Bob Motyl KK6KMU <bobmotyl@...> wrote:
Geary,

I will be looking for you.  I still need over 60 days.  I'm just taking it one day at a time.

Bob
KK6KMU



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When all else fails, Amateur Radio works.


IC-7300 with Fldigi - setup for PSK-31

ve3xdb
 

Good evening,

I'm sure this has been addressed somewhere in this forum, but I just spent 30 minutes searching, and couldn't find anything.  I apologize if I have missed something right under my nose.   

I picked up my new Icom IC-7300 yesterday, and it's a nice rig.  Took awhile to figure things out, but I am getting close.  I now have it set up for cw, PSK31 and FT8.  Historically, I have used Kenwood rigs, so this is quite different. 

My question.  Does anyone have a comprehensive source for optimizing PSK31 on the IC7300, using Fldigi and Flrig.  Specifically, I am trying to assess the bandwidth of my transmitted signal, and determine how to clean it up if needed. 

Best regards,

Doug VE3XDB


Re: Trying to wrap up PODX 070 366 endorsement

Geary McDowell
 

Thanks John, glad we made the contact.  After we finished I could see two other station on the waterfall and within two minutes my waterfall on 20 and 40 were blank!  That makes our's special, thanks again.
73 Geary, KE5IRKK

On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 1:32 PM John - KC3FL via groups.io <kc3fl=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

Geary,

Start at 00:00 z.  Propagation on 20 is good up to about 02:00 z.  Use the CQ 365 or CQ 366 and any member seeing that will jump on you.

John
KC3FL



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When all else fails, Amateur Radio works.


Re: Trying to wrap up PODX 070 366 endorsement

Geary McDowell
 

I had a nice and quick with a regular tonight, John KC3FL.  Thanks John for helping me X off one more date.  Only SIX to go now!

73 Geary KE5IRK

On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 12:36 PM Geary McDowell via groups.io <ke5irk=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Looks like I only need the following to complete the 366 endorsement for a PSK contact each day of the year, and I got Leap Year day last year!  I will be mostly on 20 meters but might hit other bands if they are good for me here in southwest Oklahoma.  I am not an early riser but might have to try to be for seven days.  HI HI HI
June 24, 29 and 30
July 2, 11, 15, and 18
Thanks in advance if you see my call and respond.
73 Geary McDowell, AKA KE5IRK
Lawton-Fort Sill, Oklahoma in Comanche County of the USA
North America, Northern Hemisphere, Earth, and the Milky Way although I prefer a Snickers.


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When all else fails, Amateur Radio works.



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Re: PODXS made ARRL Contest letter !

Leland Sly
 

FT8 is a weak signal mode not a low power mode.  If your audio settings on the computer are set properly you can run as much power as you want on FT8.  Someone did an experiment a while ago using FT8.  A number of hams all over the country sent the same messages.  The wattage varied from 1 watt to 1000 watts.  One station received all messages and could not tell what station was using any power setting based on the received signals.  So it is not the power that matters...it is the received signal.  The sending station may have to use 1000 watts to have the same signal level as another station using 1 watt depending on how the radio waves travel around the earth.

73

Lee N5SLY

On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 2:06 PM Jerry N9AVY <n9avy@...> wrote:
Ray:


I always thought that FT8 was a low power mode.  Am I mistaken ???

Jerry  n9avy

On Wednesday, June 23, 2021, 10:30:22 AM CDT, Ray Clements <r.clements@...> wrote:


Exactly

That is why I stated that we need both old and new stations back on the air. I will try to make some PSK contacts on July 4th.

One thing I like about FT8 is that it provides accurate signal reports in dB for both signals sent and signals received. I have heard other stations with signals as strong as +18 dB S/N ratio. Because I have HOA restrictions on antennas at my QTH, my signals sent are typically 5-10 dB lower than signals received. Most PSK contacts send a generic 599 signal report, even when  the signal is  difficult to copy. That is not very helpful.

I can run higher power on FT8 than on PSK31 due to the nature of the signals. If I try to run too much power on PSK, the signal will distort. I run 80-100 watts on FT8 and 25-50 watts on PSK. Both FT8 and PSK 31 can decode signals below the noise floor.

Propagation should be good enough to make PSK contacts if people would get on the air. If the bands are open for FT8 contacts, they should also be open for PSK contacts, but it takes two to tango.

I hope to see some of you on the PSK frequencies.

Ray N9RWC 73






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From: "Jim K5SP" <jinnis@...>
To: main@070Club.groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] PODXS made ARRL Contest letter !


Ray, the most recent TDW was very active.  120+ logs submitted.  Contacts on all bands from 80-10 (don't recall if any 160 were made).  A major problem is everybody thinks the bands are dead and don't bother with PSK.  TDW proved that wrong!  As I have long said, lack of propagation is due to lack of operation.  

I have been on every day this week trying to work anybody, yet, only one 40m contact in the log. 

I will be on this afternoon, so look for my PSK in the waterfall.

Jim K5SP

On 6/23/2021 7:39 AM, Ray Clements wrote:
We need to get PSK stations on the air both old and new. 

My station has been off the air for over a year. I had to disconnect my antennas due to a lot of renovation on the house. With the last job completed, I was able to reconnect the antenna. When I turn on the radio, the first thing I do is check all the PSK watering holes from 40 meters up to 10 meters, including WARC bands. Over the past week, I have seen only a couple of PSK signals on the water fall. After checking PSK, I check all the RTTY frequencies. I have seen only a single RTTY signal and it was too weak to copy. 

Since PSK and RTTY were not viable modes, I started up the WSJT-X software and looked for FT8 signals. I was able to make dozens of FT8 contacts on 40m, 20m, 17m, 15m, 12m, and 10m. The contacts included Europe, South and Central America, Caribbean islands, Japan, and many USA and Canada stations. After being off the air for an extended period, being able to make contacts was fun.

If I check PSKreporter.info, the map for the past hour only shows 11 PSK monitors. Only two of those were in USA with nine in Europe. In contrast, there are 5500 active stations on FT8 representing countries from all over the world, including Africa, Australia and the Middle East and many islands in the Atlantic, Pacific, and Indian oceans. No wonder I have not seen PSK stations on the waterfall.

As a member of PODX 070 and having achieved LONP status, I would prefer to work PSK rather than FT8, but it seems the only way to work PSK these days is to schedule a contact at a specific time and frequency.  Hopefully, things will be different on Field Day. Staring at an empty waterfall is not very exciting.


Ray N9RWC  73

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Subject: [070Club] PODXS made ARRL Contest letter !


Some recognition is better than none.  PODXS is mentioned twice in the letter. Hopefully we'll get more stations  (new members) to work !

Jerry  n9avy #454



PODXS 070 Club 40m Firecracker Sprint, Jul 3, 2000z to Jul 4, 2000z; PSK31; Bands: 40m Only; RST + (state/province/country); Logs due July 11







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Executive Director/Member Services Director


Re: PODXS made ARRL Contest letter !

Ray Clements
 

FT8 is a weak signal mode. It is not a low power mode.
 
Because it is an AFSK mode like RTTY rather than a PSK mode, it is possible to run full legal power with an amp without signal distortion. I am sure some of the huge signals I have seen on the waterfall have been with 1500 watt amps. 




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From: "Jerry N9AVY" <n9avy@...>
To: "main@070Club.groups.io" <main@070Club.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [070Club] PODXS made ARRL Contest letter !


Ray:


I always thought that FT8 was a low power mode.  Am I mistaken ???

Jerry  n9avy

On Wednesday, June 23, 2021, 10:30:22 AM CDT, Ray Clements <r.clements@...> wrote:


Exactly

That is why I stated that we need both old and new stations back on the air. I will try to make some PSK contacts on July 4th.

One thing I like about FT8 is that it provides accurate signal reports in dB for both signals sent and signals received. I have heard other stations with signals as strong as +18 dB S/N ratio. Because I have HOA restrictions on antennas at my QTH, my signals sent are typically 5-10 dB lower than signals received. Most PSK contacts send a generic 599 signal report, even when  the signal is  difficult to copy. That is not very helpful.

I can run higher power on FT8 than on PSK31 due to the nature of the signals. If I try to run too much power on PSK, the signal will distort. I run 80-100 watts on FT8 and 25-50 watts on PSK. Both FT8 and PSK 31 can decode signals below the noise floor.

Propagation should be good enough to make PSK contacts if people would get on the air. If the bands are open for FT8 contacts, they should also be open for PSK contacts, but it takes two to tango.

I hope to see some of you on the PSK frequencies.

Ray N9RWC 73






------ Original Message ------
Received: 08:13 AM CDT, 06/23/2021
From: "Jim K5SP" <jinnis@...>
To: main@070Club.groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] PODXS made ARRL Contest letter !


Ray, the most recent TDW was very active.  120+ logs submitted.  Contacts on all bands from 80-10 (don't recall if any 160 were made).  A major problem is everybody thinks the bands are dead and don't bother with PSK.  TDW proved that wrong!  As I have long said, lack of propagation is due to lack of operation.  

I have been on every day this week trying to work anybody, yet, only one 40m contact in the log. 

I will be on this afternoon, so look for my PSK in the waterfall.

Jim K5SP

On 6/23/2021 7:39 AM, Ray Clements wrote:
We need to get PSK stations on the air both old and new. 

My station has been off the air for over a year. I had to disconnect my antennas due to a lot of renovation on the house. With the last job completed, I was able to reconnect the antenna. When I turn on the radio, the first thing I do is check all the PSK watering holes from 40 meters up to 10 meters, including WARC bands. Over the past week, I have seen only a couple of PSK signals on the water fall. After checking PSK, I check all the RTTY frequencies. I have seen only a single RTTY signal and it was too weak to copy. 

Since PSK and RTTY were not viable modes, I started up the WSJT-X software and looked for FT8 signals. I was able to make dozens of FT8 contacts on 40m, 20m, 17m, 15m, 12m, and 10m. The contacts included Europe, South and Central America, Caribbean islands, Japan, and many USA and Canada stations. After being off the air for an extended period, being able to make contacts was fun.

If I check PSKreporter.info, the map for the past hour only shows 11 PSK monitors. Only two of those were in USA with nine in Europe. In contrast, there are 5500 active stations on FT8 representing countries from all over the world, including Africa, Australia and the Middle East and many islands in the Atlantic, Pacific, and Indian oceans. No wonder I have not seen PSK stations on the waterfall.

As a member of PODX 070 and having achieved LONP status, I would prefer to work PSK rather than FT8, but it seems the only way to work PSK these days is to schedule a contact at a specific time and frequency.  Hopefully, things will be different on Field Day. Staring at an empty waterfall is not very exciting.


Ray N9RWC  73

------ Original Message ------
Received: 06:52 AM CDT, 06/23/2021
From: "Jerry N9AVY" <n9avy@...>
To: "main@070club.groups.io" <main@070club.groups.io>
Subject: [070Club] PODXS made ARRL Contest letter !


Some recognition is better than none.  PODXS is mentioned twice in the letter. Hopefully we'll get more stations  (new members) to work !

Jerry  n9avy #454



PODXS 070 Club 40m Firecracker Sprint, Jul 3, 2000z to Jul 4, 2000z; PSK31; Bands: 40m Only; RST + (state/province/country); Logs due July 11







--
Jim,  K5SP #483
Executive Director/Member Services Director




Re: New Chat: Field Day #chat-notice

Jerry N9AVY
 

Seems like there's a lot of different chats.  Can't we just use the Contests thing ? I confused...


Jerry  n9avy

On Wednesday, June 23, 2021, 05:54:08 PM CDT, main@070Club.groups.io Notification <noreply@groups.io> wrote:


A new chat has been created:

New

As it stands now, I'm planning to do Field Day.  How many in our Group are planning to enter?

Buz, WA5AMM

By: Buz Johnson <wa5amm.sc.usa@...>

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Re: LONP Congrats

David Alvarez
 

Thank you Milt, Jim, and Stan for all of your hard work.

73
Dave
WA3LXD 

On Jun 23, 2021, at 4:17 PM, Jim K5SP <jinnis@...> wrote:



I think Milt is still processing your log.  This list was compiled from the logs that he and I have completed over the past couple of weeks.  Some are still in process, but we want to get the word out to those that we have finished.

Jim K5SP

On 6/23/2021 1:01 PM, JoAnn Donaldson via groups.io wrote:
I sent in my logs for this but don't seem to have made the grade. Why?

JoAnn
AB8YZ
#2844

On Wednesday, June 23, 2021, 11:23:37 AM CDT, stan W9SMR <robinstan@...> wrote:


Congrats new LONP 100 Members: 

Jim W0JSL #452; David WA3LXD #453; Buz WA5AMM #454; Joe K3YES #455

Our Exec Jim, K5SP and right-hand man Milt, N6MG have been hard at work manually digging out LONP progress due to the malfunctioning Endorsement Checker software. We have our first LONP achievers with member numbers greater to or equal to #2787. In addition to their diligent pursuit of this coveted award, their recognition is due especially to the efforts of Milt, N6MG and the member’s upload directly to him. See instruction for that process below.


So OFFICIAL CONGRATS to the following:



We also have an excited pack of LONP Seekers in hot pursuit of this traditional first rights award. If you see them, give them a call and spot them on PSKReporter and our reflector:


 

IMPORTANT NOTICE!!

Since the endorsement checker does not properly recognize and give any LONP credit for member numbers that are greater than 2786, this task must now be completed manually by a volunteer.

This also means that regardless of your 070 # you will not receive credit for member QSOs with 070 # greater than 2786. You must get with Milt and ask for his assistance to get that credit.

If your 070 # is above #2786, you may still apply for LONP by submitting your entire log of member contacts to Milt, N6MG per the Instructions !  


See also PODXS 070 Home Page for an example of upload needed.

Congratulations to all for your diligent pursuit of these cherished Awards!!

73,
Stan
W9SMR - 070  #1611
PODXS 070 - PR Director


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Jim,  K5SP #483
Executive Director/Member Services Director


New Chat: Field Day #chat-notice

main@070Club.groups.io Notification <noreply@...>
 

A new chat has been created:

New

As it stands now, I'm planning to do Field Day.  How many in our Group are planning to enter?

Buz, WA5AMM

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KZ9V POTA activation

Bob Motyl KK6KMU
 

Dave us doing a POTA  activation PSK on 20 meters.  

Try and contact him.

Bob 
KK6KMU
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Re: LONP Congrats

Jim K5SP
 

I think Milt is still processing your log.  This list was compiled from the logs that he and I have completed over the past couple of weeks.  Some are still in process, but we want to get the word out to those that we have finished.

Jim K5SP

On 6/23/2021 1:01 PM, JoAnn Donaldson via groups.io wrote:
I sent in my logs for this but don't seem to have made the grade. Why?

JoAnn
AB8YZ
#2844

On Wednesday, June 23, 2021, 11:23:37 AM CDT, stan W9SMR <robinstan@...> wrote:


Congrats new LONP 100 Members: 

Jim W0JSL #452; David WA3LXD #453; Buz WA5AMM #454; Joe K3YES #455

Our Exec Jim, K5SP and right-hand man Milt, N6MG have been hard at work manually digging out LONP progress due to the malfunctioning Endorsement Checker software. We have our first LONP achievers with member numbers greater to or equal to #2787. In addition to their diligent pursuit of this coveted award, their recognition is due especially to the efforts of Milt, N6MG and the member’s upload directly to him. See instruction for that process below.


So OFFICIAL CONGRATS to the following:



We also have an excited pack of LONP Seekers in hot pursuit of this traditional first rights award. If you see them, give them a call and spot them on PSKReporter and our reflector:


 

IMPORTANT NOTICE!!

Since the endorsement checker does not properly recognize and give any LONP credit for member numbers that are greater than 2786, this task must now be completed manually by a volunteer.

This also means that regardless of your 070 # you will not receive credit for member QSOs with 070 # greater than 2786. You must get with Milt and ask for his assistance to get that credit.

If your 070 # is above #2786, you may still apply for LONP by submitting your entire log of member contacts to Milt, N6MG per the Instructions !  


See also PODXS 070 Home Page for an example of upload needed.

Congratulations to all for your diligent pursuit of these cherished Awards!!

73,
Stan
W9SMR - 070  #1611
PODXS 070 - PR Director


--
Jim,  K5SP #483
Executive Director/Member Services Director


Re: South Cook Island

Jerry N9AVY
 

Bob:

You have a better path to South Cook because it's mostly water and radio waves tend to do better when they don't have mountains to cross and all sorts of ground clutter to deal with.  In one sense youse guys on da left coast have better paths in Asia.

Jerry  n9avy

On Wednesday, June 23, 2021, 02:04:40 PM CDT, Bob Motyl KK6KMU <bobmotyl@...> wrote:


20 meters has been open for me more than two hours after sunset.  I was calling and landed Bob E51BQ yesterday about 0400 UTC.  I had contact with him in 2017 but he said he has been away form PSK since then.  I know its late for the east coast but try calling on 20 meters well after sunset.  You just might get lucky
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