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Re: Dead bands

Jerry N9AVY
 

Saw on station in TX whose 070# I needed, but "poof!" he was gone !.  Just not my day ...

jerry n9avy

On Tuesday, March 2, 2021, 01:09:02 PM CST, Matthew King - AK4MK <kk4cps@...> wrote:


There is a very large solar storm in progress.  The "A" index is *** 26 *** right now!  The "K" index is 4.   For reference, an "A" index over 11 is considered BAD.  The "K" index is considered BAD at 3, and VERY BAD at 5.

It's very handy to keep an eye on this data.  It's always on the QRZ.com home page.

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Here's an excerpt from my QRZ page that explains a lot of what you see in the picture.  


Interpreting Solar Data

A” INDEX … 1-6 BEST 7-9 FAIR 11+ BAD - Represents overall geomagnetic condition of the ionosphere over a given 24 hour period.

“K” INDEX … 0 or 1 BEST … 2 OKAY .… 3+ BAD .…. 5 VERY BAD - This is the overall geomagnetic condition of the ionosphere averaged over the planet over the past 3 hours. K index indicates geomagnetic storms. Below 10 MHz, K of 5+ increases noise level appreciably, K of 7+ degrades HF significantly.

“SFI” … 70 NOT GOOD … 80 GOOD … 90 BETTER …100+ BEST - SFI is the Solar Flux Index and is a measure of total radio emissions from the sun.

  • Higher Solar Flux generally suggests better propagation on the 10, 12, 15, 17, & 20 Meter Bands. Solar Flux rarely affects the 30, 40, 60, 80, & 160
  • Generally, propagation conditions are best when the A index is 10 or lower, and the K index is 3 or lower.
  • SFI Solar Flux Index: When >70 then 20m opens. When > 90 then 15m opens.
  • X-Ray : Solar X-Ray emissions will cause shortwave fadeout. Classification from weak to strong X-Ray emissions : A, B, C, M, X
  • During a solar X-ray outburst, the lower frequencies are the first to suffer, with subsequent fading up the frequency spectrum over a short period (usually less than a hour). Signals crossing daylight paths will be the most affected (obviously as X-Rays come from the sun).
  • If you cannot hear signals there may be nothing wrong with your receiver or antenna. To see if a fadeout has occurred go to http://www.solarham.net/xray.htm
73

Matt
AK4MK
070 #1708  



On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 1:51 PM Dave Tucker Nu4N <dwtucker19@...> wrote:
Well I have worked 2 on 40 this am and 1 on 20. Slim pickens.
--
Dave NU4N #1657 73's


Re: Dead bands

Jerry N9AVY
 

I don't do FT8 and probably never will.  

Jerry

On Tuesday, March 2, 2021, 01:02:43 PM CST, N6MG - Milt. via groups.io <n6mg@...> wrote:


Bands aren't dead. 20m & 17m are full of FT8 traces.
There's just no psk31 traces.
Milt.
N6MG
070-650
LONP #76


-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry N9AVY <n9avy@...>
To: main@070Club.groups.io <main@070Club.groups.io>
Sent: Tue, Mar 2, 2021 9:10 am
Subject: Re: [070Club] Dead bands

20 almost dead here... hearing TX and one other station.  Yesterday was pretty much the same.  So, where cycle 25 we hear everyone bragging about ???

Jerry 

On Tuesday, March 2, 2021, 10:18:45 AM CST, John - KC3FL via groups.io <kc3fl@...> wrote:


20 mtrs dead, net even any FT8, same with 40 mtrs.  Plenty of FT8 on 17 and a little on 15 so I'll hang out on 17 till abt 18:00 if anyone wants to give it a try.

John
KC3FL


Re: Dead bands

Matthew King - AK4MK
 

There is a very large solar storm in progress.  The "A" index is *** 26 *** right now!  The "K" index is 4.   For reference, an "A" index over 11 is considered BAD.  The "K" index is considered BAD at 3, and VERY BAD at 5.

It's very handy to keep an eye on this data.  It's always on the QRZ.com home page.

image.png

Here's an excerpt from my QRZ page that explains a lot of what you see in the picture.  


Interpreting Solar Data

A” INDEX … 1-6 BEST 7-9 FAIR 11+ BAD - Represents overall geomagnetic condition of the ionosphere over a given 24 hour period.

“K” INDEX … 0 or 1 BEST … 2 OKAY .… 3+ BAD .…. 5 VERY BAD - This is the overall geomagnetic condition of the ionosphere averaged over the planet over the past 3 hours. K index indicates geomagnetic storms. Below 10 MHz, K of 5+ increases noise level appreciably, K of 7+ degrades HF significantly.

“SFI” … 70 NOT GOOD … 80 GOOD … 90 BETTER …100+ BEST - SFI is the Solar Flux Index and is a measure of total radio emissions from the sun.

  • Higher Solar Flux generally suggests better propagation on the 10, 12, 15, 17, & 20 Meter Bands. Solar Flux rarely affects the 30, 40, 60, 80, & 160
  • Generally, propagation conditions are best when the A index is 10 or lower, and the K index is 3 or lower.
  • SFI Solar Flux Index: When >70 then 20m opens. When > 90 then 15m opens.
  • X-Ray : Solar X-Ray emissions will cause shortwave fadeout. Classification from weak to strong X-Ray emissions : A, B, C, M, X
  • During a solar X-ray outburst, the lower frequencies are the first to suffer, with subsequent fading up the frequency spectrum over a short period (usually less than a hour). Signals crossing daylight paths will be the most affected (obviously as X-Rays come from the sun).
  • If you cannot hear signals there may be nothing wrong with your receiver or antenna. To see if a fadeout has occurred go to http://www.solarham.net/xray.htm
73

Matt
AK4MK
070 #1708  



On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 1:51 PM Dave Tucker Nu4N <dwtucker19@...> wrote:
Well I have worked 2 on 40 this am and 1 on 20. Slim pickens.
--
Dave NU4N #1657 73's


Re: Dead bands

 

Bands aren't dead. 20m & 17m are full of FT8 traces.
There's just no psk31 traces.
Milt.
N6MG
070-650
LONP #76


-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry N9AVY <n9avy@...>
To: main@070Club.groups.io <main@070Club.groups.io>
Sent: Tue, Mar 2, 2021 9:10 am
Subject: Re: [070Club] Dead bands

20 almost dead here... hearing TX and one other station.  Yesterday was pretty much the same.  So, where cycle 25 we hear everyone bragging about ???

Jerry 

On Tuesday, March 2, 2021, 10:18:45 AM CST, John - KC3FL via groups.io <kc3fl@...> wrote:


20 mtrs dead, net even any FT8, same with 40 mtrs.  Plenty of FT8 on 17 and a little on 15 so I'll hang out on 17 till abt 18:00 if anyone wants to give it a try.

John
KC3FL


Re: Dead bands

 

Well I have worked 2 on 40 this am and 1 on 20. Slim pickens.
--
Dave NU4N #1657 73's


Re: Dead bands

Jerry N9AVY
 

20 almost dead here... hearing TX and one other station.  Yesterday was pretty much the same.  So, where cycle 25 we hear everyone bragging about ???

Jerry 

On Tuesday, March 2, 2021, 10:18:45 AM CST, John - KC3FL via groups.io <kc3fl@...> wrote:


20 mtrs dead, net even any FT8, same with 40 mtrs.  Plenty of FT8 on 17 and a little on 15 so I'll hang out on 17 till abt 18:00 if anyone wants to give it a try.

John
KC3FL


Dead bands

 

20 mtrs dead, net even any FT8, same with 40 mtrs.  Plenty of FT8 on 17 and a little on 15 so I'll hang out on 17 till abt 18:00 if anyone wants to give it a try.

John
KC3FL


EL59

Jerry N9AVY
 

Just got a text from Dick , KC3EF, that EL59 is cancelled due to weather.  Bummer, but it's only a minor set back because I've missed it so many times already. Someday I'l work that grid !  Patience needed...  Emoji

Jerry  n9avy


Re: QRT for a bit

Jerry N9AVY
 

Will Elk be on the menu ???  Emoji

Jerry  n9avy

On Monday, March 1, 2021, 09:54:06 PM CST, Martin Tuip <ajax@...> wrote:


The thing has been up like this for a few years but today it was one elk too much. Wifey says it gives me a project though. I will relocate my antenna switch up on the hill side and likely build a few different setups. 


Martin



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: "stan W9SMR via groups.io" <robinstan@...>
Date: 3/1/21 19:32 (GMT-08:00)
To: main@070Club.groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] QRT for a bit

OMG!!

And we thought Jerry had a nasty situation.

Good luck.

73,
Stan
W9SMR

________________________________________
From: main@070Club.groups.io <main@070Club.groups.io> on behalf of Martin Tuip <ajax@...>
Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 8:46 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: [070Club] QRT for a bit


Elk came through my property and one panicked and got stuck in the feedline going up to my dipole.  It tore the dipole apart .. one side is stuck up 50 ft in a tree that maybe someone in a few hundred years will find ... I also think the feedline (100ft of LMR400) broke. Got a quick hamstick up but I will be out for a bit :(


Martin
KG7HAX







Re: EL59

Jerry N9AVY
 

Dick:

Will be standing by 14072 around 1630 GMT/Zulu/UTC Tuesday. If there is too much rain and you don't show, I'll be disappointed a bit, but I've missed you before on some grids. No big deal.

Drive safely !

Jerry  n9avy


On Monday, March 1, 2021, 08:03:47 PM CST, Richard Rohrer <kc3ef@...> wrote:


We  may get rained out for tomorrow EL59 activation.  The current WX prediction is for a couple of inches of rain that seems to flood the area.  The xyl is still thinking of how to get there and miss the areas that flood.  I will text you Jerry when we get there.  

73
Dick - KC3EF


Re: QRT for a bit

Martin Tuip
 

The thing has been up like this for a few years but today it was one elk too much. Wifey says it gives me a project though. I will relocate my antenna switch up on the hill side and likely build a few different setups. 


Martin



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: "stan W9SMR via groups.io" <robinstan@...>
Date: 3/1/21 19:32 (GMT-08:00)
To: main@070Club.groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] QRT for a bit

OMG!!

And we thought Jerry had a nasty situation.

Good luck.

73,
Stan
W9SMR

________________________________________
From: main@070Club.groups.io <main@070Club.groups.io> on behalf of Martin Tuip <ajax@...>
Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 8:46 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: [070Club] QRT for a bit


Elk came through my property and one panicked and got stuck in the feedline going up to my dipole.  It tore the dipole apart .. one side is stuck up 50 ft in a tree that maybe someone in a few hundred years will find ... I also think the feedline (100ft of LMR400) broke. Got a quick hamstick up but I will be out for a bit :(


Martin
KG7HAX







Re: QRT for a bit

stan W9SMR
 

OMG!!

And we thought Jerry had a nasty situation.

Good luck.

73,
Stan
W9SMR

________________________________________
From: main@070Club.groups.io <main@070Club.groups.io> on behalf of Martin Tuip <ajax@sharepointserver.com>
Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 8:46 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: [070Club] QRT for a bit


Elk came through my property and one panicked and got stuck in the feedline going up to my dipole. It tore the dipole apart .. one side is stuck up 50 ft in a tree that maybe someone in a few hundred years will find ... I also think the feedline (100ft of LMR400) broke. Got a quick hamstick up but I will be out for a bit :(


Martin
KG7HAX


Re: EL59

Richard Rohrer
 

We  may get rained out for tomorrow EL59 activation.  The current WX prediction is for a couple of inches of rain that seems to flood the area.  The xyl is still thinking of how to get there and miss the areas that flood.  I will text you Jerry when we get there.  

73
Dick - KC3EF


QRT for a bit

Martin Tuip
 

 
Elk came through my property and one panicked and got stuck in the feedline going up to my dipole.  It tore the dipole apart .. one side is stuck up 50 ft in a tree that maybe someone in a few hundred years will find ... I also think the feedline (100ft of LMR400) broke. Got a quick hamstick up but I will be out for a bit :(
 
 
Martin
KG7HAX


Re: 360 Pursuit

 

Alan, there's enough of us old timer's, with working antenna's, that would really like to help you along with your 365/6 award pursuits.
Can you fill us in on your best times and freq's?
The 3rd starts about this time tomorrow.
So, Day?, Evening? Night?
Milt.
N6MG
070-650
LONP #76



-----Original Message-----
From: David, K9DWR <david@...>
To: main@070Club.groups.io
Sent: Mon, Mar 1, 2021 3:11 pm
Subject: Re: [070Club] 360 Pursuit

* stan W9SMR <robinstan@...> [2021-03-01 14:36]:
> Be on the lookout for Alan, KA5VZG of Puryear, TN who currently sits at 353 dates needed to complete his 360 Award.
>
> In the near future, Alan really needs:
> 3/3
> 3/6
> 3/14
> 3/15
> His other need dates are in June, July and August.
>
> Help a fellow PSK'er along...give him a call!

Thanks for the heads up, Stan. :-)

--
David, K9DWR
#1604 LONP #255
david@...






Re: 360 Pursuit

David, K9DWR
 

* stan W9SMR <robinstan@hotmail.com> [2021-03-01 14:36]:
Be on the lookout for Alan, KA5VZG of Puryear, TN who currently sits at 353 dates needed to complete his 360 Award.

In the near future, Alan really needs:
3/3
3/6
3/14
3/15
His other need dates are in June, July and August.

Help a fellow PSK'er along...give him a call!
Thanks for the heads up, Stan. :-)

--
David, K9DWR
#1604 LONP #255
david@graniteweb.com


360 Pursuit

stan W9SMR
 

Be on the lookout for Alan, KA5VZG of Puryear, TN who currently sits at 353 dates needed to complete his 360 Award.

In the near future, Alan really needs:
3/3
3/6
3/14 
3/15
His other need dates are in June, July and August.

Help a fellow PSK'er along...give him a call!

73

Stan

W9SMR - 070  #1611

PODXS 070 - PR Director


Re: KC9UR POTA Effort Today

 

Jim,
Same scenario here. There you were, there you went...
I've got a new mouse. Must be that!
I am seeing a lot of North --> South signals.
SFI=78, A=6, K=2, Moderate w/G2 -> Minor w/G1
Sometimes I think it's better just to work the traces I see, and be happy as opposed to trying to figure out what's going on with propagation, ya know?
I also see that it's time for me to start walking around the house with my little $6.95, AM transistor radio looking for the source of the wavy lines on my waterfall. Last time it was a 1/16" little green LED "power on" light on my Granddaughter's little flat panel tv. 
Always something...
Milt.
N6MG
070-650
LONP #76

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim K5SP <jinnis@...>
To: main@070Club.groups.io
Sent: Mon, Mar 1, 2021 9:37 am
Subject: Re: [070Club] KC9UR POTA Effort Today

Milt, got 599 from you and then you disappeared on me.   Tried calling several times, no response seen in waterfall.
Nice to see you in the waterfall, no matter how briefly.
73
Jim K5SP
On 3/1/2021 10:43 AM, N6MG - Milt. via groups.io wrote:
Reading emails...awaiting Dick's activation from EL59, and wondering?
Don, what's uBTIX?
Milt.
N6MG
070-650


-----Original Message-----
From: Don - KM4UDX <dontay155@...>
To: main@070Club.groups.io
Sent: Mon, Mar 1, 2021 8:30 am
Subject: Re: [070Club] KC9UR POTA Effort Today

Bob --  thank you so much for the info.  I'm endlessly fascinated by POTA antenna stories.  Well done.  
--
Don, km4udx, uBITX, and other obscure acronyms go here...

--
Jim,  K5SP #483
Executive Director/Member Services Director


Re: Congrats - PODXS 070 Endorsements – February 2021

Jerry N9AVY
 

Jim:

Entered to spreadsheet here also.  

Saw ON4VT on 20m PSK yesterday but he went QRT before I could call him. He would have been a new LONP for me.  Missed lots of members that way over the years.

Felt good enough to drive to a friends QTH (about a 50 miles round trip) to pick up the remote antenna switch (same as mine here), but he only had the outdoor unit which is what I needed. Found one on Ebay for $279 or so, but that's more than I need.  Anyhow, it's in bad shape (missing screws, armature on one relay, Chassis has a slight bend, BUT it was Free !  Most of it can be repaired, I hope...RCS-8V.  Now the fun begins !


Jerry  n9avy

On Monday, March 1, 2021, 09:18:50 AM CST, Jim K5SP <jinnis@...> wrote:


Thanks Loren, all entered into records.

73

Jim K5SP

On 2/28/2021 8:49 AM, Loren McCullough - WA3WZR wrote:
IOTA endorsements approved for February 2021

ON4VTIOTA [50]
ON4VTIOTA [60]
ON4VTIOTA [70]
KD2QAKIOTA [10]
W0GLBIOTA [30]
W0GLBIOTA [40]

73, Loren WA3WZR

--
Jim,  K5SP #483
Executive Director/Member Services Director


Re: KC9UR POTA Effort Today

stan W9SMR
 

A.P.E. is always in August.

Therefore the name August PSK Expedition

But POTA and Grid activations are year-round!!

Keep us posted!
73,
Stan
W9SMR

________________________________________
From: main@070Club.groups.io <main@070Club.groups.io> on behalf of David Tucker <nu4ndave@...>
Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 1:44 PM
To: main@070Club.groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] KC9UR POTA Effort Today

Yes Stan   I think the APE will  be in June?? Yep gonna try Thanks for
asking.


On 3/1/2021 12:40 PM, stan W9SMR wrote:
> Dave,
>
> Terrific. We look forward to your POTA activation. Keep us posted.
>
> Have you considered doing an APE. Now, I can tell you, that can be a bundle of fun!
>
> I love your QRZ page. You are a walking Ad for PODXS and several other worthy groups!
>
> Keep up the good work!
>
> 73,
> Stan
> W9SMR
>
>
>
> ________________________________________
> From: main@070Club.groups.io <main@070Club.groups.io> on behalf of David Tucker <nu4ndave@...>
> Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 1:14 PM
> To: main@070Club.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [070Club] KC9UR POTA Effort Today
>
> For now Stan I am a collector. This spring I hope to activate a couple
> of near parks.
>
> Gotta get the back rig out either mobile of fixed with a antenna in the
> tree's
>
>
> On 3/1/2021 12:10 PM, stan W9SMR wrote:
>> Bob, C9UR,  was operating POTA around noon on Saturday, Feb 27.  I believe on 20M only that time.
>>
>> I'm sure he will post his next activation on this Reflector.
>>
>> Are you a POTA collector and do you also activate POTA??
>>
>> 73,
>> Stan
>> W9SMR
>>
>> ________________________________________
>> From: main@070Club.groups.io <main@070Club.groups.io> on behalf of David Tucker <nu4ndave@...>
>> Sent: Monday, March 1, 2021 12:52 PM
>> To: main@070Club.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [070Club] KC9UR POTA Effort Today
>>
>> Is Bob gonna be on 20 or 40 ??
>>
>> Thanks Nu4N
>>
>> On 3/1/2021 11:37 AM, Jim K5SP wrote:
>>
>> Milt, got 599 from you and then you disappeared on me.   Tried calling several times, no response seen in waterfall.
>>
>> Nice to see you in the waterfall, no matter how briefly.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Jim K5SP
>>
>> On 3/1/2021 10:43 AM, N6MG - Milt. via groups.io wrote:
>> Reading emails...awaiting Dick's activation from EL59, and wondering?
>> Don, what's uBTIX?
>> Milt.
>> N6MG
>> 070-650
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Don - KM4UDX <dontay155@...><mailto:dontay155@...>
>> To: main@070Club.groups.io<mailto:main@070Club.groups.io>
>> Sent: Mon, Mar 1, 2021 8:30 am
>> Subject: Re: [070Club] KC9UR POTA Effort Today
>>
>> Bob --  thank you so much for the info.  I'm endlessly fascinated by POTA antenna stories.  Well done.
>> --
>> Don, km4udx, uBITX, and other obscure acronyms go here...
>>
>> --
>> Jim,  K5SP #483
>> Executive Director/Member Services Director
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> --
> 73's de NU4N Dave
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--
73's de NU4N Dave







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