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Re: Antennas for 160m

Richard Rohrer
 

Hi Jerry,

Yes, I was very lucky.  Did not even have bruise on my foot.  I was expecting a visit to the ER after the xyl told me how stupid I was, hi hi. 

I never would have gone to the top of a 700 ft plus building and looked over the edge. Don't like heights.  My last employer had me go to the Ivanpah Solar Plant to test and certify the equipment we provided.  I thought no problem, its usually in the control room, but in this case it was at the 400 ft level on the boiler towers.  It looked like there was a single wide trailer placed in the tower that contained the motor controls and our instrumentation.   We could elevator up to 300ft and had to walk up the last 100 ft on a stairway that was made of diamond tread.  You could see all the way down to the ground.  Did not like that at all.  This is why I don't have anything antenna wise that I can't work on from the ground. 

Do you still need grid EL59 in LA?   We are planning a trip to TX coast next Feb so we will be going near there. 

73
Dick - KC3EF


Re: Antennas for 160m

Ken N6PCD
 

Milt,

Remember the day in 1993 that I slipped in the rain and fell off the semitrailer when I was driving truck for the feed company? Compound shell fracture including the right eye socket, badly dislocated right elbow, two years out of work recovering and retraining for another job skill. Y’all came and visited me in he hospital.

Couldn't remain in truck driving due to eye and arm damage. Good thing is that I was able to retrain as an electronics technician for the remainder of my working life. Romans 8:28 in The Good Book...

Anyway, to this day I’m deathly afraid of going up on a ladder more than a few feet. Didn’t put up Christmas lights around the house here in Monett because of it. The gutters around the front of the house are 17 feet AGL in places.
--
All the best,
Ken N6PCD
070 #801
LONP #187


Re: Antennas for 160m

Jim K5SP
 

And black shoes rule the USN!

73

Jim K5SP (RMC USN-ret)


On 12/4/2020 7:22 PM, Scotty W7PSK wrote:

Ahh he was a SAR Naval Air Crewman on a Helo.  Just a minor thing Jerry,  Naval Aviator are Pilots, People who work are Naval Air Crewman. :P :) :) :)

NFOs, thats another story :) :) :)

On 12/4/2020 15:40, Jerry N9AVY wrote:
My boss was a naval aviator.. he was the guy who jumped out of the plane to helped downed aviators in the drink.

Jerry

On Friday, December 4, 2020, 05:13:01 PM CST, Scotty W7PSK <w7psk@...> wrote:


Milt what did you fly as a Nasal Aviator :).

I have near 7000 hrs as a Naval Air Crewman.  Started on EC-121Ms then EA-3Bs.  On to EP-3Es as an Airborne Electronic Warfare Operator.  UC-12B (Beech King Air 200) as loadmaster/Crewchief and then P-3C Flight Engineer.


On the related subject, I "HAD" a G5RV that had in a 50Ft Hemlock in the front yard.  About 40ft down the tree, the rest went to the back yard to a 10ft post in the back corner.  I say Had because the tree was a double trunk we had to have removed because a crack developed in it.  So now Im sans anything for 40 and below.


Scotty W7PSK



On 12/3/2020 19:22, N6MG - Milt. via groups.io wrote:
Well, Jerry, I can hardly understand that Dr's order...I mean from someone that built a bookcase/console for his radio and it collapsed, what could possibly go wrong?
On a serious note, I have to own up to falling off an extension ladder a few years ago. I had the ladder extended up to about 10' agl. I was at the top, leaning waaay out to the left, working on a tangled up American flag. Well, so much for the all-important "weights & balances" that I studied as a Naval Aviator.
The ladder flipped around dumping me in the rose bed below. 
What I remember was things going to slow motion on my way down...I remember thinking, 
"This is gonna hurt!"..."This is gonna hurt!"...
I landed on a coiled up 100' heavy duty hose. No pain! But, I bounced a few feet up in the air and landed on the brick knee wall around the roses and wound up with a broken rib and a bruised shoulder.
Land of the free, home of the brave? That American flag now fends for itself!  
Anybody else have ladder stories?
Milt.
N6MG
070-650
LONP #76



-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry N9AVY <n9avy@...>
To: main@070Club.groups.io <main@070Club.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Dec 3, 2020 4:11 pm
Subject: Re: [070Club] Antennas for 160m

Drs. orders - NO Ladders !

Jerry

On Thursday, December 3, 2020, 06:04:27 PM CST, Barry VA7GEM via groups.io <boat.anchor@...> wrote:


On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 06:42 AM, Jerry N9AVY wrote:
 
Barry: 
 
Thought about taking out a chunk of the tree just below the antenna and then gluing it back together, but problem was how to hold up top of tree while sawing of a few feet. 
 
Jerry
 
On Thursday, December 3, 2020, 08:28:02 AM CST, Barry VA7GEM via groups.io <boat.anchor@...> wrote:
 
Jerry
Easiest way to lower the height is with a chainsaw. 
Bonus is wood for the winter.
Hope to see you on the doubleheader
Barry
Jerry
I reckoned you would just take a few feet out of the bottom.
Old guys should stay off of ladders. My XYL gave mine
to the neighbor.
See you on the Double Header
Barry

--
Scotty W7PSK
Everett, Washington
070 #138

--
Scotty W7PSK
Everett, Washington
070 #138

--
Jim,  K5SP #483
Executive Director/Member Services Director


Milt some history.

Scotty W7PSK
 

PS it was VQ1 where I became a ham,  I had an interest in it while in High School but didn't have an Elmer.  My SEVAL and Assistant Seval were both Hams and coached me to license.  I was near ready and they requested the conditional paperwork ( I was stationed in Guam) when I suddenly got transferred to Moffett Field and finished it there. Got WD6DJB when I passed my Novice in 1977.  That was April. In June I was up at the FCC Office in San Francisco doing my 13wpm and General.  2 months later I had my Advanced.  Kept that until 2005 when I finally got my extra.

I got into Digital modes because I mostly operated at the Moffett Field Ham Radio Club because i was single.  They had a TU6 and a model 15.  Got into RTTY. When I was transfered to NAS Brunswick I got a Kantronics Interface for my Commodore VIC 20 and did RTTY that way. Then I got a Kantronics KAM and didt RTTY/AMTOR and Pactor. I also was on the Beta Test Team for Kantronics GTOR (sad it didnt take of it was an awesome mode) in December of 1999 I was reading a QST article on building an interface that would work on my Commodore 64 with this fancy mode called PSK31.   And the rest they say is history.

sorry if I rambled.




--
Scotty W7PSK
Everett, Washington
070 #138


Re: Antennas for 160m

Scotty W7PSK
 

EA-3B was the Skywarrior.  You more than likely tanked off the KA-3 Version. I sat in the old bomb bay area
staring at Electronic Warfare scopes and equipment listening to RADARS all day :).   Did a Cruise on the Ranger in 74
and the Midway in 75.  I was in VQ1 at the time.  EC-121 Connie still my favorite but when I got to VQ1 they were in the
middle of retiring them. So when it came time to cross over I either had EP-3Bs or EA-3Bs.  I lost the Toss :).

when I was in VQ-2 I flew on the EP-3Es the updated version of the B's. Again I sat in the dark staring at scopes and listening. 

Got tired of the dark so went crew chief then FE.  Still didn't get to look out the windows much although all my pilots (Except EA-3B since its single pilot) gave me seat time. Loved the Phantom, but they scared the crap out of me every time they went burner on the CAT. Its because I usually was exiting the EA-3B through the Bottom hatch and they always parked us just off #2 Cat just before the island and I took a tour of the deck a couple times.  The one the almost killed me though was the E2 that went high power and blew me down past the island tumbling all the way. I was down for a couple days because of dizzyness.




On 12/4/2020 19:12, N6MG - Milt. via groups.io wrote:
Scotty...
I flew the F-4H & J. The H was basically a D model, with A model engines. The A model engines were incredible. 
Very few weapons, but lot's of camera's, etc. VF-92 from Jan 69 & VF-143  to Feb 72. 
You sure have more time in Nomex than I do! Ha! That Prowler is a huge airplane! The Orion?...you just sort of aim them, huh? That P-C3 is another big boy.
It's all history now, and at the age of 75, I don't let my mind go there too often.
Anyway, now if I can just locate and correct a problem I'm having with my MixW's 'icon.cfg' file, my afternoon will be a success!
Milt
N6MG
-----Original Message-----
From: Scotty W7PSK <w7psk@...>
To: main@070Club.groups.io
Sent: Fri, Dec 4, 2020 3:12 pm
Subject: Re: [070Club] Antennas for 160m

Milt what did you fly as a Nasal Aviator :).
I have near 7000 hrs as a Naval Air Crewman.  Started on EC-121Ms then EA-3Bs.  On to EP-3Es as an Airborne Electronic Warfare Operator.  UC-12B (Beech King Air 200) as loadmaster/Crewchief and then P-3C Flight Engineer.

On the related subject, I "HAD" a G5RV that had in a 50Ft Hemlock in the front yard.  About 40ft down the tree, the rest went to the back yard to a 10ft post in the back corner.  I say Had because the tree was a double trunk we had to have removed because a crack developed in it.  So now Im sans anything for 40 and below.

Scotty W7PSK


On 12/3/2020 19:22, N6MG - Milt. via groups.io wrote:
Well, Jerry, I can hardly understand that Dr's order...I mean from someone that built a bookcase/console for his radio and it collapsed, what could possibly go wrong?
On a serious note, I have to own up to falling off an extension ladder a few years ago. I had the ladder extended up to about 10' agl. I was at the top, leaning waaay out to the left, working on a tangled up American flag. Well, so much for the all-important "weights & balances" that I studied as a Naval Aviator.
The ladder flipped around dumping me in the rose bed below. 
What I remember was things going to slow motion on my way down...I remember thinking, 
"This is gonna hurt!"..."This is gonna hurt!"...
I landed on a coiled up 100' heavy duty hose. No pain! But, I bounced a few feet up in the air and landed on the brick knee wall around the roses and wound up with a broken rib and a bruised shoulder.
Land of the free, home of the brave? That American flag now fends for itself!  
Anybody else have ladder stories?
Milt.
N6MG
070-650
LONP #76



-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry N9AVY <n9avy@...>
To: main@070Club.groups.io <main@070Club.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Dec 3, 2020 4:11 pm
Subject: Re: [070Club] Antennas for 160m

Drs. orders - NO Ladders !

Jerry

On Thursday, December 3, 2020, 06:04:27 PM CST, Barry VA7GEM via groups.io <boat.anchor@...> wrote:


On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 06:42 AM, Jerry N9AVY wrote:
 
Barry: 
 
Thought about taking out a chunk of the tree just below the antenna and then gluing it back together, but problem was how to hold up top of tree while sawing of a few feet. 
 
Jerry
 
On Thursday, December 3, 2020, 08:28:02 AM CST, Barry VA7GEM via groups.io <boat.anchor@...> wrote:
 
Jerry
Easiest way to lower the height is with a chainsaw. 
Bonus is wood for the winter.
Hope to see you on the doubleheader
Barry
Jerry
I reckoned you would just take a few feet out of the bottom.
Old guys should stay off of ladders. My XYL gave mine
to the neighbor.
See you on the Double Header
Barry

--
Scotty W7PSK
Everett, Washington
070 #138

--
Scotty W7PSK
Everett, Washington
070 #138


Re: Antennas for 160m

 

Scotty...
I flew the F-4H & J. The H was basically a D model, with A model engines. The A model engines were incredible. 
Very few weapons, but lot's of camera's, etc. VF-92 from Jan 69 & VF-143  to Feb 72. 
You sure have more time in Nomex than I do! Ha! That Prowler is a huge airplane! The Orion?...you just sort of aim them, huh? That P-C3 is another big boy.
It's all history now, and at the age of 75, I don't let my mind go there too often.
Anyway, now if I can just locate and correct a problem I'm having with my MixW's 'icon.cfg' file, my afternoon will be a success!
Milt
N6MG

-----Original Message-----
From: Scotty W7PSK <w7psk@...>
To: main@070Club.groups.io
Sent: Fri, Dec 4, 2020 3:12 pm
Subject: Re: [070Club] Antennas for 160m

Milt what did you fly as a Nasal Aviator :).
I have near 7000 hrs as a Naval Air Crewman.  Started on EC-121Ms then EA-3Bs.  On to EP-3Es as an Airborne Electronic Warfare Operator.  UC-12B (Beech King Air 200) as loadmaster/Crewchief and then P-3C Flight Engineer.

On the related subject, I "HAD" a G5RV that had in a 50Ft Hemlock in the front yard.  About 40ft down the tree, the rest went to the back yard to a 10ft post in the back corner.  I say Had because the tree was a double trunk we had to have removed because a crack developed in it.  So now Im sans anything for 40 and below.

Scotty W7PSK


On 12/3/2020 19:22, N6MG - Milt. via groups.io wrote:
Well, Jerry, I can hardly understand that Dr's order...I mean from someone that built a bookcase/console for his radio and it collapsed, what could possibly go wrong?
On a serious note, I have to own up to falling off an extension ladder a few years ago. I had the ladder extended up to about 10' agl. I was at the top, leaning waaay out to the left, working on a tangled up American flag. Well, so much for the all-important "weights & balances" that I studied as a Naval Aviator.
The ladder flipped around dumping me in the rose bed below. 
What I remember was things going to slow motion on my way down...I remember thinking, 
"This is gonna hurt!"..."This is gonna hurt!"...
I landed on a coiled up 100' heavy duty hose. No pain! But, I bounced a few feet up in the air and landed on the brick knee wall around the roses and wound up with a broken rib and a bruised shoulder.
Land of the free, home of the brave? That American flag now fends for itself!  
Anybody else have ladder stories?
Milt.
N6MG
070-650
LONP #76



-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry N9AVY <n9avy@...>
To: main@070Club.groups.io <main@070Club.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Dec 3, 2020 4:11 pm
Subject: Re: [070Club] Antennas for 160m

Drs. orders - NO Ladders !

Jerry

On Thursday, December 3, 2020, 06:04:27 PM CST, Barry VA7GEM via groups.io <boat.anchor@...> wrote:


On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 06:42 AM, Jerry N9AVY wrote:
 
Barry: 
 
Thought about taking out a chunk of the tree just below the antenna and then gluing it back together, but problem was how to hold up top of tree while sawing of a few feet. 
 
Jerry
 
On Thursday, December 3, 2020, 08:28:02 AM CST, Barry VA7GEM via groups.io <boat.anchor@...> wrote:
 
Jerry
Easiest way to lower the height is with a chainsaw. 
Bonus is wood for the winter.
Hope to see you on the doubleheader
Barry
Jerry
I reckoned you would just take a few feet out of the bottom.
Old guys should stay off of ladders. My XYL gave mine
to the neighbor.
See you on the Double Header
Barry

--
Scotty W7PSK
Everett, Washington
070 #138


DOUBLEHEADER TRIPLE PLAY LOW BAND SPRINT – Heads Up !

stan W9SMR
 

The Ø7Ø Club DOUBLEHEADER TRIPLE PLAY LOW BAND SPRINT is just 1 week away –


Saturday, December 12 - 0000 UTC
to
 Monday, December 14 - 0000 UTC

 

This is a 3 day event – Friday, Saturday and Sunday evenings in US

Sprint Rules – Work a 6 hour block each UTC Date. For Scoring, your 6 hour block will start with the hour you select on the Scoring page and continue for the next 6 hours. You may have only one “Block” or “Block Portion” on a given UTC date.

 

NOTE  that any start time of 1800 or later will end at 2359 that UTC day, so those times are consolidated into a single "1800-2300" start time selection in the Contest Scorer.

 

Work each station once per band. (Same station, same band, different day is a dupe!)

 

Open to all licensed radio amateurs. Using 40M, 80M and 160M.

For Rules and detailsClick Here: Doubleheader Rules


Frequencies
: - 1.807 / 1.838 MHz (Europe). 3.580 MHz, 7.070 / 7.040 / 7.035 (Europe) MHz


4 Power Categories
:

QRP < 5 W
Low < 25 W
Medium < 50 W
High < 100 W


Exchange:
 Callsign,  RST  and  State/Province/Country (SPC)    eg: “W9SMR  599  FL”


Call: “CQ 070 Sprint”


All entry logs
 must be uploaded within 1 week after the event ends. See Uploader Link in Rules.


This event will again test your ingenuity and stealthy antenna talents. But with 3 bands to choose from, you can optimize your luck with propagation.

 

This event will also decide the ultimate winner of the annual RC3 (Rollo Cup Contest Championship). In a surprise spectacular showing in the Triple Header contest last month, John, KC3FL pulled ahead of Lee, N5SLY by a mere 5.91 points (904.39 / 898.48). Lee has been challenged to get that 160M antenna up and running.


And it will again be worth pursuing, in order to grab that Top Band Endorsement Sticker with 20 QSOS on 160M. Only
44 of our 2,810 members have earned the Top Band Sticker.

 

And 160M QSOs count as 3 points each.

 

Especially for help in grabbing a few 160M QSOs, it is helpful to post your intentions to QSY on the Reflector. Also, be sure to use PSKReporter and to Spot calls seen. We need all the help we can get.

 

This is one of our most popular contests. Last year 41 logs were submitted. Top Dawg and 1st in High Power was Lee, N5SLY, with 78 QSOs and 3210 points.

 

 

Let’s see if we can beat that turnout. 



73,

Stan

W9SMR - 070  #1611

PODXS 070 - PR Director


Re: Antennas for 160m

Jerry N9AVY
 

My mistake .  He later transferred to hauling cargo in and out of Nam.

On Friday, December 4, 2020, 07:23:01 PM CST, Scotty W7PSK <w7psk@...> wrote:


Ahh he was a SAR Naval Air Crewman on a Helo.  Just a minor thing Jerry,  Naval Aviator are Pilots, People who work are Naval Air Crewman. :P :) :) :)

NFOs, thats another story :) :) :)

On 12/4/2020 15:40, Jerry N9AVY wrote:
My boss was a naval aviator.. he was the guy who jumped out of the plane to helped downed aviators in the drink.

Jerry

On Friday, December 4, 2020, 05:13:01 PM CST, Scotty W7PSK <w7psk@...> wrote:


Milt what did you fly as a Nasal Aviator :).

I have near 7000 hrs as a Naval Air Crewman.  Started on EC-121Ms then EA-3Bs.  On to EP-3Es as an Airborne Electronic Warfare Operator.  UC-12B (Beech King Air 200) as loadmaster/Crewchief and then P-3C Flight Engineer.


On the related subject, I "HAD" a G5RV that had in a 50Ft Hemlock in the front yard.  About 40ft down the tree, the rest went to the back yard to a 10ft post in the back corner.  I say Had because the tree was a double trunk we had to have removed because a crack developed in it.  So now Im sans anything for 40 and below.


Scotty W7PSK



On 12/3/2020 19:22, N6MG - Milt. via groups.io wrote:
Well, Jerry, I can hardly understand that Dr's order...I mean from someone that built a bookcase/console for his radio and it collapsed, what could possibly go wrong?
On a serious note, I have to own up to falling off an extension ladder a few years ago. I had the ladder extended up to about 10' agl. I was at the top, leaning waaay out to the left, working on a tangled up American flag. Well, so much for the all-important "weights & balances" that I studied as a Naval Aviator.
The ladder flipped around dumping me in the rose bed below. 
What I remember was things going to slow motion on my way down...I remember thinking, 
"This is gonna hurt!"..."This is gonna hurt!"...
I landed on a coiled up 100' heavy duty hose. No pain! But, I bounced a few feet up in the air and landed on the brick knee wall around the roses and wound up with a broken rib and a bruised shoulder.
Land of the free, home of the brave? That American flag now fends for itself!  
Anybody else have ladder stories?
Milt.
N6MG
070-650
LONP #76



-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry N9AVY <n9avy@...>
To: main@070Club.groups.io <main@070Club.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Dec 3, 2020 4:11 pm
Subject: Re: [070Club] Antennas for 160m

Drs. orders - NO Ladders !

Jerry

On Thursday, December 3, 2020, 06:04:27 PM CST, Barry VA7GEM via groups.io <boat.anchor@...> wrote:


On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 06:42 AM, Jerry N9AVY wrote:
 
Barry: 
 
Thought about taking out a chunk of the tree just below the antenna and then gluing it back together, but problem was how to hold up top of tree while sawing of a few feet. 
 
Jerry
 
On Thursday, December 3, 2020, 08:28:02 AM CST, Barry VA7GEM via groups.io <boat.anchor@...> wrote:
 
Jerry
Easiest way to lower the height is with a chainsaw. 
Bonus is wood for the winter.
Hope to see you on the doubleheader
Barry
Jerry
I reckoned you would just take a few feet out of the bottom.
Old guys should stay off of ladders. My XYL gave mine
to the neighbor.
See you on the Double Header
Barry

--
Scotty W7PSK
Everett, Washington
070 #138

--
Scotty W7PSK
Everett, Washington
070 #138


Re: Antennas for 160m

Scotty W7PSK
 

Ahh he was a SAR Naval Air Crewman on a Helo.  Just a minor thing Jerry,  Naval Aviator are Pilots, People who work are Naval Air Crewman. :P :) :) :)

NFOs, thats another story :) :) :)

On 12/4/2020 15:40, Jerry N9AVY wrote:
My boss was a naval aviator.. he was the guy who jumped out of the plane to helped downed aviators in the drink.

Jerry

On Friday, December 4, 2020, 05:13:01 PM CST, Scotty W7PSK <w7psk@...> wrote:


Milt what did you fly as a Nasal Aviator :).

I have near 7000 hrs as a Naval Air Crewman.  Started on EC-121Ms then EA-3Bs.  On to EP-3Es as an Airborne Electronic Warfare Operator.  UC-12B (Beech King Air 200) as loadmaster/Crewchief and then P-3C Flight Engineer.


On the related subject, I "HAD" a G5RV that had in a 50Ft Hemlock in the front yard.  About 40ft down the tree, the rest went to the back yard to a 10ft post in the back corner.  I say Had because the tree was a double trunk we had to have removed because a crack developed in it.  So now Im sans anything for 40 and below.


Scotty W7PSK



On 12/3/2020 19:22, N6MG - Milt. via groups.io wrote:
Well, Jerry, I can hardly understand that Dr's order...I mean from someone that built a bookcase/console for his radio and it collapsed, what could possibly go wrong?
On a serious note, I have to own up to falling off an extension ladder a few years ago. I had the ladder extended up to about 10' agl. I was at the top, leaning waaay out to the left, working on a tangled up American flag. Well, so much for the all-important "weights & balances" that I studied as a Naval Aviator.
The ladder flipped around dumping me in the rose bed below. 
What I remember was things going to slow motion on my way down...I remember thinking, 
"This is gonna hurt!"..."This is gonna hurt!"...
I landed on a coiled up 100' heavy duty hose. No pain! But, I bounced a few feet up in the air and landed on the brick knee wall around the roses and wound up with a broken rib and a bruised shoulder.
Land of the free, home of the brave? That American flag now fends for itself!  
Anybody else have ladder stories?
Milt.
N6MG
070-650
LONP #76



-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry N9AVY <n9avy@...>
To: main@070Club.groups.io <main@070Club.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Dec 3, 2020 4:11 pm
Subject: Re: [070Club] Antennas for 160m

Drs. orders - NO Ladders !

Jerry

On Thursday, December 3, 2020, 06:04:27 PM CST, Barry VA7GEM via groups.io <boat.anchor@...> wrote:


On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 06:42 AM, Jerry N9AVY wrote:
 
Barry: 
 
Thought about taking out a chunk of the tree just below the antenna and then gluing it back together, but problem was how to hold up top of tree while sawing of a few feet. 
 
Jerry
 
On Thursday, December 3, 2020, 08:28:02 AM CST, Barry VA7GEM via groups.io <boat.anchor@...> wrote:
 
Jerry
Easiest way to lower the height is with a chainsaw. 
Bonus is wood for the winter.
Hope to see you on the doubleheader
Barry
Jerry
I reckoned you would just take a few feet out of the bottom.
Old guys should stay off of ladders. My XYL gave mine
to the neighbor.
See you on the Double Header
Barry

--
Scotty W7PSK
Everett, Washington
070 #138

--
Scotty W7PSK
Everett, Washington
070 #138


CQ SKYWARN

2774 KJ7MEB
 

SKYWARN Recognition Day (SRD) is Dec 5, 2020 from 0000-2400 UTC Dec 6. Look for us on the air using various modes calling CQ SKYWARN or CQ SRD for FT* digital modes.

SKYWARN Recognition Day is an opportunity for National Weather Service Forecast Offices across the United States to thank SKYWARN Spotters for their efforts in communicating timely severe weather reporting for the protection of life and property.

Hope to see you on the air...CQ SKYWARN!! #skywarn20


Re: Antennas for 160m

Jerry N9AVY
 

My boss was a naval aviator.. he was the guy who jumped out of the plane to helped downed aviators in the drink.

Jerry

On Friday, December 4, 2020, 05:13:01 PM CST, Scotty W7PSK <w7psk@...> wrote:


Milt what did you fly as a Nasal Aviator :).

I have near 7000 hrs as a Naval Air Crewman.  Started on EC-121Ms then EA-3Bs.  On to EP-3Es as an Airborne Electronic Warfare Operator.  UC-12B (Beech King Air 200) as loadmaster/Crewchief and then P-3C Flight Engineer.


On the related subject, I "HAD" a G5RV that had in a 50Ft Hemlock in the front yard.  About 40ft down the tree, the rest went to the back yard to a 10ft post in the back corner.  I say Had because the tree was a double trunk we had to have removed because a crack developed in it.  So now Im sans anything for 40 and below.


Scotty W7PSK



On 12/3/2020 19:22, N6MG - Milt. via groups.io wrote:
Well, Jerry, I can hardly understand that Dr's order...I mean from someone that built a bookcase/console for his radio and it collapsed, what could possibly go wrong?
On a serious note, I have to own up to falling off an extension ladder a few years ago. I had the ladder extended up to about 10' agl. I was at the top, leaning waaay out to the left, working on a tangled up American flag. Well, so much for the all-important "weights & balances" that I studied as a Naval Aviator.
The ladder flipped around dumping me in the rose bed below. 
What I remember was things going to slow motion on my way down...I remember thinking, 
"This is gonna hurt!"..."This is gonna hurt!"...
I landed on a coiled up 100' heavy duty hose. No pain! But, I bounced a few feet up in the air and landed on the brick knee wall around the roses and wound up with a broken rib and a bruised shoulder.
Land of the free, home of the brave? That American flag now fends for itself!  
Anybody else have ladder stories?
Milt.
N6MG
070-650
LONP #76



-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry N9AVY <n9avy@...>
To: main@070Club.groups.io <main@070Club.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Dec 3, 2020 4:11 pm
Subject: Re: [070Club] Antennas for 160m

Drs. orders - NO Ladders !

Jerry

On Thursday, December 3, 2020, 06:04:27 PM CST, Barry VA7GEM via groups.io <boat.anchor@...> wrote:


On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 06:42 AM, Jerry N9AVY wrote:
 
Barry: 
 
Thought about taking out a chunk of the tree just below the antenna and then gluing it back together, but problem was how to hold up top of tree while sawing of a few feet. 
 
Jerry
 
On Thursday, December 3, 2020, 08:28:02 AM CST, Barry VA7GEM via groups.io <boat.anchor@...> wrote:
 
Jerry
Easiest way to lower the height is with a chainsaw. 
Bonus is wood for the winter.
Hope to see you on the doubleheader
Barry
Jerry
I reckoned you would just take a few feet out of the bottom.
Old guys should stay off of ladders. My XYL gave mine
to the neighbor.
See you on the Double Header
Barry

--
Scotty W7PSK
Everett, Washington
070 #138


Re: Antennas for 160m

Jerry N9AVY
 

Dick:

Had one of those ladders you mentioned. After a couple mishaps with it not locking in, sold it at a garage sale. They were cheaply constructed imitations of Little Giant ladders.  You were lucky to have escaped without major damaged to your foot !

Jerry

On Friday, December 4, 2020, 04:36:06 PM CST, Richard Rohrer <kc3ef@...> wrote:


Milt & Jerry,

Interesting stories.  I have never fallen off a ladder, but have my own story.  I needed to working on a roof mounted antenna so I got out my 15ft extension ladder and put it up.  Started climbing and got to about 3 1/2 feet off the ground and the top section slid down and stopped on my foot, trapping it.  Apparently the latches had not caught.  So there I was 3 1/2 feet off the ground stuck and trying to figure out how long it would take the xyl to wonder what happened to me.  Should I try to fall over backwards with the ladder on top of me and how much damage would I suffer, being over 70.  I finally managed to get my foot out of the shoe, with some effort and was free.  The xyl thought I was "stupid" for not making sure the upper section of the ladder was securely latched.  I do now, every time I use a ladder.  She still lets me get on the roof, but I think those days are numbered. 

I have also had the same problem as Jerry with trees growing over support ropes.  I now use steel cables with pieces of flexible conduit over them to go over the tree limbs.  I have a pulley on the cable with the host rope for the antenna.  I found that if the steel cable gets stuck, a hand winch will break it loose. 

73
Dick - KC3EF 


Re: Antennas for 160m

Scotty W7PSK
 

Milt what did you fly as a Nasal Aviator :).

I have near 7000 hrs as a Naval Air Crewman.  Started on EC-121Ms then EA-3Bs.  On to EP-3Es as an Airborne Electronic Warfare Operator.  UC-12B (Beech King Air 200) as loadmaster/Crewchief and then P-3C Flight Engineer.


On the related subject, I "HAD" a G5RV that had in a 50Ft Hemlock in the front yard.  About 40ft down the tree, the rest went to the back yard to a 10ft post in the back corner.  I say Had because the tree was a double trunk we had to have removed because a crack developed in it.  So now Im sans anything for 40 and below.


Scotty W7PSK



On 12/3/2020 19:22, N6MG - Milt. via groups.io wrote:
Well, Jerry, I can hardly understand that Dr's order...I mean from someone that built a bookcase/console for his radio and it collapsed, what could possibly go wrong?
On a serious note, I have to own up to falling off an extension ladder a few years ago. I had the ladder extended up to about 10' agl. I was at the top, leaning waaay out to the left, working on a tangled up American flag. Well, so much for the all-important "weights & balances" that I studied as a Naval Aviator.
The ladder flipped around dumping me in the rose bed below. 
What I remember was things going to slow motion on my way down...I remember thinking, 
"This is gonna hurt!"..."This is gonna hurt!"...
I landed on a coiled up 100' heavy duty hose. No pain! But, I bounced a few feet up in the air and landed on the brick knee wall around the roses and wound up with a broken rib and a bruised shoulder.
Land of the free, home of the brave? That American flag now fends for itself!  
Anybody else have ladder stories?
Milt.
N6MG
070-650
LONP #76



-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry N9AVY <n9avy@...>
To: main@070Club.groups.io <main@070Club.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Dec 3, 2020 4:11 pm
Subject: Re: [070Club] Antennas for 160m

Drs. orders - NO Ladders !

Jerry

On Thursday, December 3, 2020, 06:04:27 PM CST, Barry VA7GEM via groups.io <boat.anchor@...> wrote:


On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 06:42 AM, Jerry N9AVY wrote:
 
Barry: 
 
Thought about taking out a chunk of the tree just below the antenna and then gluing it back together, but problem was how to hold up top of tree while sawing of a few feet. 
 
Jerry
 
On Thursday, December 3, 2020, 08:28:02 AM CST, Barry VA7GEM via groups.io <boat.anchor@...> wrote:
 
Jerry
Easiest way to lower the height is with a chainsaw. 
Bonus is wood for the winter.
Hope to see you on the doubleheader
Barry
Jerry
I reckoned you would just take a few feet out of the bottom.
Old guys should stay off of ladders. My XYL gave mine
to the neighbor.
See you on the Double Header
Barry

--
Scotty W7PSK
Everett, Washington
070 #138


Re: Antennas for 160m

Richard Rohrer
 

Milt & Jerry,

Interesting stories.  I have never fallen off a ladder, but have my own story.  I needed to working on a roof mounted antenna so I got out my 15ft extension ladder and put it up.  Started climbing and got to about 3 1/2 feet off the ground and the top section slid down and stopped on my foot, trapping it.  Apparently the latches had not caught.  So there I was 3 1/2 feet off the ground stuck and trying to figure out how long it would take the xyl to wonder what happened to me.  Should I try to fall over backwards with the ladder on top of me and how much damage would I suffer, being over 70.  I finally managed to get my foot out of the shoe, with some effort and was free.  The xyl thought I was "stupid" for not making sure the upper section of the ladder was securely latched.  I do now, every time I use a ladder.  She still lets me get on the roof, but I think those days are numbered. 

I have also had the same problem as Jerry with trees growing over support ropes.  I now use steel cables with pieces of flexible conduit over them to go over the tree limbs.  I have a pulley on the cable with the host rope for the antenna.  I found that if the steel cable gets stuck, a hand winch will break it loose. 

73
Dick - KC3EF 


Welcome 2810

Jim K5SP
 

Please join me in welcoming new member:

2810 Terry K0IFT

Jim K5SP
Executive Director
--
Jim,  K5SP #483
Executive Director/Member Services Director


Re: Antennas for 160m

Jerry N9AVY
 

My job as owner/installer of a small alarm company with many commercial installs was a lot of fun.  However, I fell off ladders 4 times  (was hoping for a 5th time and that would have made me an ace - not sure about spelling.).

First time was a few years back when I was on a 4 ft. step and had been working about 16 hours that day. Was tired in both body & mind thought I counted steps coming down, but miscounted and fell backwards onto concrete floor. Ouch.

Another time I was on a 7 ft ladder and again miscounted steps on way down and not only landed on concrete floor, but also against shelving in moving & storage warehouse. 

A couple other falls which I can't recall, but pretty much same story with being exhausted, not counting my steps and ending up on concrete floor - splat ! They were painful experiences.

After a stroke in 2019 my balance was terrible and Dr. said no more ladder climbing... although I did try it once and was pretty shaky. In the course of job over the years I've been up on 24 ft. ladders and scissors lifts working in ceilings.  Probably the stupidest thing I did was up on the roof of Chicago's Civic Center which was 780 odd feet above the street; I walked to edge look over where there was no railing, just a 2 inch rail for window washers.  It was February and fortunately there was no wind (that Chicago is famous for) that day.  Still question why I did that.

Did some other interesting stuff like trained to work in chemical plants where I would have had to climb into large storage tanks. They would tie a rope to my harness and like an idiot I asked what that was for ?  Was told that it was to save the 2 guys who went in after me if I died there. 

Loads of fun !

Jerry   n9avy

On Thursday, December 3, 2020, 09:22:18 PM CST, N6MG - Milt. via groups.io <n6mg@...> wrote:


Well, Jerry, I can hardly understand that Dr's order...I mean from someone that built a bookcase/console for his radio and it collapsed, what could possibly go wrong?
On a serious note, I have to own up to falling off an extension ladder a few years ago. I had the ladder extended up to about 10' agl. I was at the top, leaning waaay out to the left, working on a tangled up American flag. Well, so much for the all-important "weights & balances" that I studied as a Naval Aviator.
The ladder flipped around dumping me in the rose bed below. 
What I remember was things going to slow motion on my way down...I remember thinking, 
"This is gonna hurt!"..."This is gonna hurt!"...
I landed on a coiled up 100' heavy duty hose. No pain! But, I bounced a few feet up in the air and landed on the brick knee wall around the roses and wound up with a broken rib and a bruised shoulder.
Land of the free, home of the brave? That American flag now fends for itself!  
Anybody else have ladder stories?
Milt.
N6MG
070-650
LONP #76



-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry N9AVY <n9avy@...>
To: main@070Club.groups.io <main@070Club.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Dec 3, 2020 4:11 pm
Subject: Re: [070Club] Antennas for 160m

Drs. orders - NO Ladders !

Jerry

On Thursday, December 3, 2020, 06:04:27 PM CST, Barry VA7GEM via groups.io <boat.anchor@...> wrote:


On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 06:42 AM, Jerry N9AVY wrote:
 
Barry: 
 
Thought about taking out a chunk of the tree just below the antenna and then gluing it back together, but problem was how to hold up top of tree while sawing of a few feet. 
 
Jerry
 
On Thursday, December 3, 2020, 08:28:02 AM CST, Barry VA7GEM via groups.io <boat.anchor@...> wrote:
 
Jerry
Easiest way to lower the height is with a chainsaw. 
Bonus is wood for the winter.
Hope to see you on the doubleheader
Barry
Jerry
I reckoned you would just take a few feet out of the bottom.
Old guys should stay off of ladders. My XYL gave mine
to the neighbor.
See you on the Double Header
Barry


Re: Antennas for 160m

Leland Sly
 

I fall down just standing on the floor these days...hi hi.  I have a son that is over 6' tall and when a light bulb needs changing he's the guy I ask.

73

Lee N5SLY

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 9:22 PM N6MG - Milt. via groups.io <n6mg=verizon.net@groups.io> wrote:
Well, Jerry, I can hardly understand that Dr's order...I mean from someone that built a bookcase/console for his radio and it collapsed, what could possibly go wrong?
On a serious note, I have to own up to falling off an extension ladder a few years ago. I had the ladder extended up to about 10' agl. I was at the top, leaning waaay out to the left, working on a tangled up American flag. Well, so much for the all-important "weights & balances" that I studied as a Naval Aviator.
The ladder flipped around dumping me in the rose bed below. 
What I remember was things going to slow motion on my way down...I remember thinking, 
"This is gonna hurt!"..."This is gonna hurt!"...
I landed on a coiled up 100' heavy duty hose. No pain! But, I bounced a few feet up in the air and landed on the brick knee wall around the roses and wound up with a broken rib and a bruised shoulder.
Land of the free, home of the brave? That American flag now fends for itself!  
Anybody else have ladder stories?
Milt.
N6MG
070-650
LONP #76



-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry N9AVY <n9avy@...>
To: main@070Club.groups.io <main@070Club.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Dec 3, 2020 4:11 pm
Subject: Re: [070Club] Antennas for 160m

Drs. orders - NO Ladders !

Jerry

On Thursday, December 3, 2020, 06:04:27 PM CST, Barry VA7GEM via groups.io <boat.anchor=yahoo.ca@groups.io> wrote:


On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 06:42 AM, Jerry N9AVY wrote:
 
Barry: 
 
Thought about taking out a chunk of the tree just below the antenna and then gluing it back together, but problem was how to hold up top of tree while sawing of a few feet. 
 
Jerry
 
On Thursday, December 3, 2020, 08:28:02 AM CST, Barry VA7GEM via groups.io <boat.anchor=yahoo.ca@groups.io> wrote:
 
Jerry
Easiest way to lower the height is with a chainsaw. 
Bonus is wood for the winter.
Hope to see you on the doubleheader
Barry
Jerry
I reckoned you would just take a few feet out of the bottom.
Old guys should stay off of ladders. My XYL gave mine
to the neighbor.
See you on the Double Header
Barry


Re: Antennas for 160m

 

Well, Jerry, I can hardly understand that Dr's order...I mean from someone that built a bookcase/console for his radio and it collapsed, what could possibly go wrong?
On a serious note, I have to own up to falling off an extension ladder a few years ago. I had the ladder extended up to about 10' agl. I was at the top, leaning waaay out to the left, working on a tangled up American flag. Well, so much for the all-important "weights & balances" that I studied as a Naval Aviator.
The ladder flipped around dumping me in the rose bed below. 
What I remember was things going to slow motion on my way down...I remember thinking, 
"This is gonna hurt!"..."This is gonna hurt!"...
I landed on a coiled up 100' heavy duty hose. No pain! But, I bounced a few feet up in the air and landed on the brick knee wall around the roses and wound up with a broken rib and a bruised shoulder.
Land of the free, home of the brave? That American flag now fends for itself!  
Anybody else have ladder stories?
Milt.
N6MG
070-650
LONP #76



-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry N9AVY <n9avy@...>
To: main@070Club.groups.io <main@070Club.groups.io>
Sent: Thu, Dec 3, 2020 4:11 pm
Subject: Re: [070Club] Antennas for 160m

Drs. orders - NO Ladders !

Jerry

On Thursday, December 3, 2020, 06:04:27 PM CST, Barry VA7GEM via groups.io <boat.anchor@...> wrote:


On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 06:42 AM, Jerry N9AVY wrote:
 
Barry: 
 
Thought about taking out a chunk of the tree just below the antenna and then gluing it back together, but problem was how to hold up top of tree while sawing of a few feet. 
 
Jerry
 
On Thursday, December 3, 2020, 08:28:02 AM CST, Barry VA7GEM via groups.io <boat.anchor@...> wrote:
 
Jerry
Easiest way to lower the height is with a chainsaw. 
Bonus is wood for the winter.
Hope to see you on the doubleheader
Barry
Jerry
I reckoned you would just take a few feet out of the bottom.
Old guys should stay off of ladders. My XYL gave mine
to the neighbor.
See you on the Double Header
Barry


Re: Antennas for 160m

Jerry N9AVY
 

Drs. orders - NO Ladders !

Jerry

On Thursday, December 3, 2020, 06:04:27 PM CST, Barry VA7GEM via groups.io <boat.anchor@...> wrote:


On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 06:42 AM, Jerry N9AVY wrote:
 
Barry: 
 
Thought about taking out a chunk of the tree just below the antenna and then gluing it back together, but problem was how to hold up top of tree while sawing of a few feet. 
 
Jerry
 
On Thursday, December 3, 2020, 08:28:02 AM CST, Barry VA7GEM via groups.io <boat.anchor@...> wrote:
 
Jerry
Easiest way to lower the height is with a chainsaw. 
Bonus is wood for the winter.
Hope to see you on the doubleheader
Barry
Jerry
I reckoned you would just take a few feet out of the bottom.
Old guys should stay off of ladders. My XYL gave mine
to the neighbor.
See you on the Double Header
Barry


Re: Antennas for 160m

Barry VA7GEM
 

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 06:42 AM, Jerry N9AVY wrote:
 
Barry: 
 
Thought about taking out a chunk of the tree just below the antenna and then gluing it back together, but problem was how to hold up top of tree while sawing of a few feet. 
 
Jerry
 
On Thursday, December 3, 2020, 08:28:02 AM CST, Barry VA7GEM via groups.io <boat.anchor@...> wrote:
 
Jerry
Easiest way to lower the height is with a chainsaw. 
Bonus is wood for the winter.
Hope to see you on the doubleheader
Barry
Jerry
I reckoned you would just take a few feet out of the bottom.
Old guys should stay off of ladders. My XYL gave mine
to the neighbor.
See you on the Double Header
Barry

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