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Re: Eisenhower Birthday Special Event

Leland Sly
 

Thanks for the questions Jim.  The special event is held October 10, 2020 0000z - October 18, 2020 2359z.  All the sites I listed are actual parks and historical sites.  For example, the Eisenhower State Park in TX is on the south shore of Lake Texoma near Pottsboro, TX.  The Eisenhower Birthplace State Historical Site is located near downtown Denison, TX.  The actual house where Ike was born is still there and you can take a tour of it.  We would love to have you participate and make some PSK contacts during the event.  If you don't want to venture out you can still operate from home if you wish.

73

Lee N5SLY

On Fri, Aug 14, 2020 at 3:40 PM Jim K5SP <jinnis@...> wrote:

Is this the entire month of October?  Are the TX locations at the actual sites? 

Possibly can (Covid permitting) volunteer some PSK operating, if needed.

Jim K5SP

On 8/14/2020 3:10 PM, Leland Sly wrote:

For many years now the Grayson County ARC has hosted a Special Event to commemorate the birthday of President Dwight Eisenhower in October. We'll be using the W5I, W5K & W5E call signs this year. This year we are going to team up with the POTA (Parks On The Air) folks. Our call signs are registered with the POTA program. There are 5 POTA parks that I am aware of related to Eisenhower...

K-3005 Eisenhower State Park in TX

K-2335 Eisenhower State Park in KS

K-0810 Eisenhower National Historic Site in PA

K-6553 Eisenhower Birthplace State Historical Site in TX

K-2650 Eisenhower Memorial Wayside in NH

We have operators committed to the parks in TX and PA. If you enjoy activating POTA sites and would like to participate in our Special Event in KS or NH please let me know. We love to have guest operators participate in our events.

Our special events only have 2 rules...

You must follow the band plan for the license you hold &
You must send your log of contacts made to me when the special event is over.

You are free to operate as much or as little as you like during the event.  You can use any band and any mode you want to.  

So if you really enjoy PSK and getting out and setting up in the field this may be something you would be interested in.  If you would like additional information just send me an email...n5sly@...

Thanks & 73

Lee N5SLY


--
Jim,  K5SP #483
Executive Director/Member Services Director


locked Re: HF Digital Mode Band Plan Review

Jerry N9AVY
 

Pretty sure that K1JT is boring egomaniac . His FT modes will go down as one of the worst things to happen to Amateur Radio. Statistics may prove that more FT operators died from boredom. :-)

Jerry

On Friday, August 14, 2020, 02:42:54 PM CDT, Jim K5SP <jinnis@...> wrote:


And, King Joe T will convince them all that he has millions of users and that there is not enough bandwidth for them; he will point out that much of the PSK operating areas are not as widely used anymore and that is the best portion of the band to allocate to his developed modes.

Yet, the number of FT(insert mode) operators is dwindling because it is boring, provides no operating challenge, or even have the operator present to log that exotic contact. 

Jim

On 8/14/2020 9:59 AM, Milton Garb via groups.io wrote:

Hi everybody...

This is info on some "Frequency/Mode/Band" usage.

It's copied/pasted here with the written approval of Bernie, W3UR, publisher, of "The Daily DX".


 HF Digital Mode Band Plan Review
> (The following was posted by K1ZZ, Dave Sumner, as an IARU News Release)
> ______________________________________________________________________
>
> Because frequency allocations and amateur radio operating interests vary in different parts of the world, the development of band plans – voluntary guidelines on the use of the spectrum that is available to radio amateurs – is a responsibility of the three IARU regional organizations. Each of the three Regions has a band planning committee to focus on this work. In recent years there have been increased efforts to bring the regional band plans into alignment wherever possible. Final approval of band plan revisions is generally given by the regional conferences of IARU member-societies that are held every three years on a rotating basis.
> This approach to band planning generally has kept pace with the evolution of amateur radio operating. However, the explosive growth in HF (below 30 MHz) digital modes, particularly FT8, has led to perceived overcrowding of HF digital mode band segments. Accordingly, a working group has been formed consisting of representatives of the three regional band planning committees. This is the first time the three Regions have joined together to directly coordinate band planning efforts.
> The working group has already had fruitful discussions with the WSJT Development Group led by Joe Taylor, K1JT. Additional discussions, including with other HF stakeholders, will be held as part of a fundamental review of the different HF digital modes, and how they can be best categorized and arranged to share the limited spectrum available.
> The main aim is to develop solutions that reduce congestion within very popular mode segments while preventing mutual interference between incompatible modes to the greatest extent possible. While the proposed band plan revisions will have to be approved by member-societies in each Region, recent administrative changes mean that the changes can be implemented without having to wait for the regional conferences.
> Amateurs are encouraged to follow progress through their IARU member-society and the respective IARU websites, all of which can be reached via www.iaru.org.

--
Jim,  K5SP #483
Executive Director/Member Services Director


KB3RAN APE Report

Jim K5SP
 

The first report from a 2020 APE has been completed, and is available from the menu link for 2020 on the website.

Read and enjoy learning about KB3RAN's APE, and the lessons learned for future APE ventures.

73

Jim K5SP


--
Jim,  K5SP #483
Executive Director/Member Services Director


Re: Eisenhower Birthday Special Event

Jim K5SP
 

Is this the entire month of October?  Are the TX locations at the actual sites? 

Possibly can (Covid permitting) volunteer some PSK operating, if needed.

Jim K5SP

On 8/14/2020 3:10 PM, Leland Sly wrote:

For many years now the Grayson County ARC has hosted a Special Event to commemorate the birthday of President Dwight Eisenhower in October. We'll be using the W5I, W5K & W5E call signs this year. This year we are going to team up with the POTA (Parks On The Air) folks. Our call signs are registered with the POTA program. There are 5 POTA parks that I am aware of related to Eisenhower...

K-3005 Eisenhower State Park in TX

K-2335 Eisenhower State Park in KS

K-0810 Eisenhower National Historic Site in PA

K-6553 Eisenhower Birthplace State Historical Site in TX

K-2650 Eisenhower Memorial Wayside in NH

We have operators committed to the parks in TX and PA. If you enjoy activating POTA sites and would like to participate in our Special Event in KS or NH please let me know. We love to have guest operators participate in our events.

Our special events only have 2 rules...

You must follow the band plan for the license you hold &
You must send your log of contacts made to me when the special event is over.

You are free to operate as much or as little as you like during the event.  You can use any band and any mode you want to.  

So if you really enjoy PSK and getting out and setting up in the field this may be something you would be interested in.  If you would like additional information just send me an email...n5sly@...

Thanks & 73

Lee N5SLY


--
Jim,  K5SP #483
Executive Director/Member Services Director


Eisenhower Birthday Special Event

Leland Sly
 

For many years now the Grayson County ARC has hosted a Special Event to commemorate the birthday of President Dwight Eisenhower in October. We'll be using the W5I, W5K & W5E call signs this year. This year we are going to team up with the POTA (Parks On The Air) folks. Our call signs are registered with the POTA program. There are 5 POTA parks that I am aware of related to Eisenhower...

K-3005 Eisenhower State Park in TX

K-2335 Eisenhower State Park in KS

K-0810 Eisenhower National Historic Site in PA

K-6553 Eisenhower Birthplace State Historical Site in TX

K-2650 Eisenhower Memorial Wayside in NH

We have operators committed to the parks in TX and PA. If you enjoy activating POTA sites and would like to participate in our Special Event in KS or NH please let me know. We love to have guest operators participate in our events.

Our special events only have 2 rules...

You must follow the band plan for the license you hold &
You must send your log of contacts made to me when the special event is over.

You are free to operate as much or as little as you like during the event.  You can use any band and any mode you want to.  

So if you really enjoy PSK and getting out and setting up in the field this may be something you would be interested in.  If you would like additional information just send me an email...n5sly@...

Thanks & 73

Lee N5SLY


locked Re: HF Digital Mode Band Plan Review

Mike Besemer - WM4B #348 <mwbesemer@...>
 

Jim – you took the words right out of my mouth

 

Mike

WM4B

 

From: main@070Club.groups.io [mailto:main@070Club.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim K5SP
Sent: Friday, August 14, 2020 3:43 PM
To: main@070Club.groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] HF Digital Mode Band Plan Review

 

And, King Joe T will convince them all that he has millions of users and that there is not enough bandwidth for them; he will point out that much of the PSK operating areas are not as widely used anymore and that is the best portion of the band to allocate to his developed modes.

Yet, the number of FT(insert mode) operators is dwindling because it is boring, provides no operating challenge, or even have the operator present to log that exotic contact. 

Jim

On 8/14/2020 9:59 AM, Milton Garb via groups.io wrote:

Hi everybody...

This is info on some "Frequency/Mode/Band" usage.

It's copied/pasted here with the written approval of Bernie, W3UR, publisher, of "The Daily DX".

 

 HF Digital Mode Band Plan Review

> (The following was posted by K1ZZ, Dave Sumner, as an IARU News Release)

> ______________________________________________________________________

> 

> Because frequency allocations and amateur radio operating interests vary in different parts of the world, the development of band plans – voluntary guidelines on the use of the spectrum that is available to radio amateurs – is a responsibility of the three IARU regional organizations. Each of the three Regions has a band planning committee to focus on this work. In recent years there have been increased efforts to bring the regional band plans into alignment wherever possible. Final approval of band plan revisions is generally given by the regional conferences of IARU member-societies that are held every three years on a rotating basis.

> This approach to band planning generally has kept pace with the evolution of amateur radio operating. However, the explosive growth in HF (below 30 MHz) digital modes, particularly FT8, has led to perceived overcrowding of HF digital mode band segments. Accordingly, a working group has been formed consisting of representatives of the three regional band planning committees. This is the first time the three Regions have joined together to directly coordinate band planning efforts.

> The working group has already had fruitful discussions with the WSJT Development Group led by Joe Taylor, K1JT. Additional discussions, including with other HF stakeholders, will be held as part of a fundamental review of the different HF digital modes, and how they can be best categorized and arranged to share the limited spectrum available.

> The main aim is to develop solutions that reduce congestion within very popular mode segments while preventing mutual interference between incompatible modes to the greatest extent possible. While the proposed band plan revisions will have to be approved by member-societies in each Region, recent administrative changes mean that the changes can be implemented without having to wait for the regional conferences.

> Amateurs are encouraged to follow progress through their IARU member-society and the respective IARU websites, all of which can be reached via www.iaru.org.


--
Jim,  K5SP #483
Executive Director/Member Services Director


locked Re: HF Digital Mode Band Plan Review

Jim K5SP
 

And, King Joe T will convince them all that he has millions of users and that there is not enough bandwidth for them; he will point out that much of the PSK operating areas are not as widely used anymore and that is the best portion of the band to allocate to his developed modes.

Yet, the number of FT(insert mode) operators is dwindling because it is boring, provides no operating challenge, or even have the operator present to log that exotic contact. 

Jim

On 8/14/2020 9:59 AM, Milton Garb via groups.io wrote:

Hi everybody...

This is info on some "Frequency/Mode/Band" usage.

It's copied/pasted here with the written approval of Bernie, W3UR, publisher, of "The Daily DX".


 HF Digital Mode Band Plan Review
> (The following was posted by K1ZZ, Dave Sumner, as an IARU News Release)
> ______________________________________________________________________
>
> Because frequency allocations and amateur radio operating interests vary in different parts of the world, the development of band plans – voluntary guidelines on the use of the spectrum that is available to radio amateurs – is a responsibility of the three IARU regional organizations. Each of the three Regions has a band planning committee to focus on this work. In recent years there have been increased efforts to bring the regional band plans into alignment wherever possible. Final approval of band plan revisions is generally given by the regional conferences of IARU member-societies that are held every three years on a rotating basis.
> This approach to band planning generally has kept pace with the evolution of amateur radio operating. However, the explosive growth in HF (below 30 MHz) digital modes, particularly FT8, has led to perceived overcrowding of HF digital mode band segments. Accordingly, a working group has been formed consisting of representatives of the three regional band planning committees. This is the first time the three Regions have joined together to directly coordinate band planning efforts.
> The working group has already had fruitful discussions with the WSJT Development Group led by Joe Taylor, K1JT. Additional discussions, including with other HF stakeholders, will be held as part of a fundamental review of the different HF digital modes, and how they can be best categorized and arranged to share the limited spectrum available.
> The main aim is to develop solutions that reduce congestion within very popular mode segments while preventing mutual interference between incompatible modes to the greatest extent possible. While the proposed band plan revisions will have to be approved by member-societies in each Region, recent administrative changes mean that the changes can be implemented without having to wait for the regional conferences.
> Amateurs are encouraged to follow progress through their IARU member-society and the respective IARU websites, all of which can be reached via www.iaru.org.

--
Jim,  K5SP #483
Executive Director/Member Services Director


locked HF Digital Mode Band Plan Review

 

Hi everybody...

This is info on some "Frequency/Mode/Band" usage.

It's copied/pasted here with the written approval of Bernie, W3UR, publisher, of "The Daily DX".


 HF Digital Mode Band Plan Review
> (The following was posted by K1ZZ, Dave Sumner, as an IARU News Release)
> ______________________________________________________________________
>
> Because frequency allocations and amateur radio operating interests vary in different parts of the world, the development of band plans – voluntary guidelines on the use of the spectrum that is available to radio amateurs – is a responsibility of the three IARU regional organizations. Each of the three Regions has a band planning committee to focus on this work. In recent years there have been increased efforts to bring the regional band plans into alignment wherever possible. Final approval of band plan revisions is generally given by the regional conferences of IARU member-societies that are held every three years on a rotating basis.
> This approach to band planning generally has kept pace with the evolution of amateur radio operating. However, the explosive growth in HF (below 30 MHz) digital modes, particularly FT8, has led to perceived overcrowding of HF digital mode band segments. Accordingly, a working group has been formed consisting of representatives of the three regional band planning committees. This is the first time the three Regions have joined together to directly coordinate band planning efforts.
> The working group has already had fruitful discussions with the WSJT Development Group led by Joe Taylor, K1JT. Additional discussions, including with other HF stakeholders, will be held as part of a fundamental review of the different HF digital modes, and how they can be best categorized and arranged to share the limited spectrum available.
> The main aim is to develop solutions that reduce congestion within very popular mode segments while preventing mutual interference between incompatible modes to the greatest extent possible. While the proposed band plan revisions will have to be approved by member-societies in each Region, recent administrative changes mean that the changes can be implemented without having to wait for the regional conferences.
> Amateurs are encouraged to follow progress through their IARU member-society and the respective IARU websites, all of which can be reached via www.iaru.org.


Calendars are Hard!

Karl Heinz Kremer - K5KHK - PODXS 070 # 2645
 

Last August, I was ready to fill my calendar for the 365/366 endorsement. I was missing three days during the week we always spend in the Adirondacks. I came prepared with my radio, an antenna and a Raspberry Pi set up with Fldigi. Unfortunately, due to technical difficulties and hardware problems, I was not able to make a single PSK31 contact. So I marked the three missing days on my calendar for this year and started two days ago to fill in the missing days. Thanks to John KC3FL for helping me to fill in my calendar. Based on what I had in my calendar, I should be down to one missing day now, so I thought I would upload my logs and take a screenshot of the one missing day in the calendar for the family photo album :) Imagine my shock when I saw that there were two days missing... The good news is that it's the next two days and not something that I would have to wait another year for. Yup, calendars are hard :) I will be on the air again tonight and tomorrow night to fill in those two missing days. Thanks again for everybody out there willing to answer my CQ calls or to work me when I answer theirs - especially to John. 

See you on the waterfall, 

Karl Heinz - K5KHK


Re: Contacts who have returned or new to PSK

John - AI4FR
 

Well said and excellent advice John!!

73,
John / AI4FR


Re: Contacts who have returned or new to PSK

Paul Butzi (W7PFB)
 

I’ve had several QSO’s lately with hams trying PSK31 for the first time.  I always point’em toward this group.

My local club (Snoqualmie Valley ARC) knows I am a big PSK fan and asked me to do a ‘intro to PSK31’ presentation.  I gave them the Complete Introduction, with full orchestration, five part vocal harmony, and feeling.

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

On Aug 12, 2020, at 4:24 AM, DAVE KB3RAN 1692/381 via groups.io <davehardy0101@...> wrote:

Mu last 2 contacts for the Maryland QSO Party were folks making their first contact on psk31.  And I also am seeing remarks about returning to the airwaves to have conversations after getting their fill of FT8 exotic station contacts.  I always make sure to send a paper qsl card to those making their first contact. 

Dave
KB3RAN
1692//381
APE Event Mgr.

--
Dave H KB3RAN 1692/381


Re: Contacts who have returned or new to PSK

Leland Sly
 

Always remember that with digital modes it is the computer that is talking to the radio.  The computer talks with the speakers.  If the speaker volume is too loud (the computer is yelling at the radio) you'll cause distortion and an overdriven signal.  I adjust the computer speaker level until I get no ALC needle deflection showing on the meter while I am transmitting.  This insures that I won't have an overdriven signal.

73

Lee N5SLY

On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 12:14 PM Jerry N9AVY <n9avy@...> wrote:
Good advice John ! Usually try to be helpful for new and old guys alike. One thing I learned when finding an overdriven signal is to first turn off the AGC and insert about 18 db of attenuation. This usually proves to be a problem with my receiver (FT-1000MP). Learned this from an Official Observer a few years back. Also if you're using a yagi, you need to turn away from "offending" station. This will eliminate any possibility of error on your part.

Just thought I'd pass along some knowledge I found along the way ...

Jerry n9avy
On Wednesday, August 12, 2020, 10:12:33 AM CDT, John - KC3FL via groups.io <kc3fl=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:


I've seen new folks just about everyday for the past two or three months.  Some new to digital, and some FT8 ops that either got bored or worked every station on the planet.  Along with not knowing the protocal, they will type ahead and load the xmit buffer or have a signal 500 hz wide.  Try to use some tact when you point out those things.  We want to help the newbie, not chase them away.  I heard a station blister a guy for having an over driven signal and the new guy went silent.  I sent him an email and explained how to fix the signal and that the nasty op is the exception and not the norm on PSK.  He replied that his first contact left a bad taste in his mouth and he didn't intend to return to PSK but accepted my help and I've seen him on the waterfall since.  So keep in mind what it was like when you started and welcome the new guy or gal.

John
KC3FL


Re: Contacts who have returned or new to PSK

Jerry N9AVY
 

Bob:

No problem, it just made me stumble over that sentence. Missteaks happen .

Jerry n9avy

On Wednesday, August 12, 2020, 11:06:41 AM CDT, Bob Motyl KK6KMU <bobmotyl@...> wrote:


Jerry,
I meant a more substantial QSO.  Poor composition on my part.

All,
Great group of people we have in this group. Thanks for allowing me to be a part of it.  Always refreshing to meet new PSK ers.

Bob KK6KMU


Re: Contacts who have returned or new to PSK

Jerry N9AVY
 

Good advice John ! Usually try to be helpful for new and old guys alike. One thing I learned when finding an overdriven signal is to first turn off the AGC and insert about 18 db of attenuation. This usually proves to be a problem with my receiver (FT-1000MP). Learned this from an Official Observer a few years back. Also if you're using a yagi, you need to turn away from "offending" station. This will eliminate any possibility of error on your part.

Just thought I'd pass along some knowledge I found along the way ...

Jerry n9avy

On Wednesday, August 12, 2020, 10:12:33 AM CDT, John - KC3FL via groups.io <kc3fl@...> wrote:


I've seen new folks just about everyday for the past two or three months.  Some new to digital, and some FT8 ops that either got bored or worked every station on the planet.  Along with not knowing the protocal, they will type ahead and load the xmit buffer or have a signal 500 hz wide.  Try to use some tact when you point out those things.  We want to help the newbie, not chase them away.  I heard a station blister a guy for having an over driven signal and the new guy went silent.  I sent him an email and explained how to fix the signal and that the nasty op is the exception and not the norm on PSK.  He replied that his first contact left a bad taste in his mouth and he didn't intend to return to PSK but accepted my help and I've seen him on the waterfall since.  So keep in mind what it was like when you started and welcome the new guy or gal.

John
KC3FL


Re: Contacts who have returned or new to PSK

Bob Motyl KK6KMU
 

Jerry,
I meant a more substantial QSO.  Poor composition on my part.

All,
Great group of people we have in this group. Thanks for allowing me to be a part of it.  Always refreshing to meet new PSK ers.

Bob KK6KMU


Re: Contacts who have returned or new to PSK

Karl Heinz Kremer - K5KHK - PODXS 070 # 2645
 

I put a few days on my calendar to make sure that I get the missing three days for my 365/366 endorsement. I am hoping that for the next three days (starting tomorrow), there are enough stations that are strong enough, and that also can decode my signals. I had to make some modifications to my station (the computer I used before died), so after a successful trial run yesterday, I had one brief QSO this morning. So, if you see my signal over the next couple of days, I am desperate for a PSK31 QSO :) 

Karl Heinz - K5KHK


Re: Contacts who have returned or new to PSK

 

I've seen new folks just about everyday for the past two or three months.  Some new to digital, and some FT8 ops that either got bored or worked every station on the planet.  Along with not knowing the protocal, they will type ahead and load the xmit buffer or have a signal 500 hz wide.  Try to use some tact when you point out those things.  We want to help the newbie, not chase them away.  I heard a station blister a guy for having an over driven signal and the new guy went silent.  I sent him an email and explained how to fix the signal and that the nasty op is the exception and not the norm on PSK.  He replied that his first contact left a bad taste in his mouth and he didn't intend to return to PSK but accepted my help and I've seen him on the waterfall since.  So keep in mind what it was like when you started and welcome the new guy or gal.

John
KC3FL


Re: Contacts who have returned or new to PSK

DAVE KB3RAN 1692/381
 

Mu last 2 contacts for the Maryland QSO Party were folks making their first contact on psk31.  And I also am seeing remarks about returning to the airwaves to have conversations after getting their fill of FT8 exotic station contacts.  I always make sure to send a paper qsl card to those making their first contact. 

Dave
KB3RAN
1692//381
APE Event Mgr.

--
Dave H KB3RAN 1692/381


Re: Contacts who have returned or new to PSK

Jerry N9AVY
 

Bob:

Have run into a few over past few months who were returning from other modes because hey enjoyed ragchewing and the friendlier QSOs on PSK.

"unsubstantial QSO" ??? Did you mean it without the "un" prefix or is that a California thing ?


Jerry n9avy

On Tuesday, August 11, 2020, 09:56:00 PM CDT, Bob Motyl KK6KMU <bobmotyl@...> wrote:


Over the last couple of weeks I have had QSO's with many returnees or new to PSK.  Some have said that they were ready for a change and have a more unsubstantial QSO.  Some had never tried PSK before. Has any one had this experience?  Just wondering.  I pointed them all to our web site.

Thanks,
Bob  KK6KMU  #2484


Re: Contacts who have returned or new to PSK

Ron Bosch
 


As a person who, although I have been a Ham for a long time, has very little HF experience, I would say that quite a few folks like me, who have taken the plunge into HF as a function of the enforced time at home are starting to explore new stuff.

I have been talking about how much I love the mode on the nets I am on, and I have several folks on those nets getting set up now.

I think a lot of people have been playing with FT8 and JS8Call, but are finding out that they are eventually pretty boring except for paper chasing. 

I just had a 30 minute QSO with a guy in VA, we had a blast, and you sure can't do that on FT8!!

my 2.71828 cents,

Ron
KE4DRF


On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 9:55 PM Bob Motyl KK6KMU <bobmotyl@...> wrote:
Over the last couple of weeks I have had QSO's with many returnees or new to PSK.  Some have said that they were ready for a change and have a more unsubstantial QSO.  Some had never tried PSK before. Has any one had this experience?  Just wondering.  I pointed them all to our web site.

Thanks,
Bob  KK6KMU  #2484

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