Date   

QRZ Featured Operator

Jim K5SP
 

Got on to QRZ.com this morning and discovered that our own Paula, K7PAX is the featured operator today.

Congratulations Paula.

Jim, K5SP



--
Jim,  K5SP #483
Member Services Director


Re: FT8 vs other modes - my numbers

Justin Mattes--KC2GIK
 

Can someone sit me down and EXPLAIN FT8 to me? Walk me through it because
it seems it's the mode with the LEAST operator participation? Phone and CW
you need skill and a decent about of l uck. With PSK you need to focus.
FT8 has the leat operator interaction of the modes

Justin, KC2GIK

FWIW from another list…


-----Original Message-----

Mike, you are buying into a myth that both supporters and detractors of
FT8
perpetuate. The myth that FT8 is superior for DX'ing, to other modes.

2018 was my "year of FT8". I participated in several on-air WSJT new
feature
tests including DXpedition mode testing. I spent the vast majority of my
on-air hours, outside of contests, on FT8. I CQ'd a lot on FT8 and also
chased DX on FT8.

You ask: " Productive in what way? To work new ones? ". I specifically
checked by 2018 log statistics for new band slots. I worked 4 new band
slots
on 160M in 2018 - zero on FT8. I worked 13 new ones on 80M in 2018 - none
on
FT8. I worked 5 new ones on 40M in 2018 - none on FT8. And so on.

You also ask: "How many countries did you work on FT8 that you did not or
could not work on any other mode." My answer: I worked 4 ATNO's in 2018.
None did I need FT8 to confirm.

Now, I did work 13 of DXpeditions in 2018 for new digital mode DXCC credit
in 2018. If I look at these stats, 8 of them I worked on RTTY, and 5 I
worked on FT8. But the ones I worked on FT8 completely neglected RTTY -
they
never did any RTTY at all or made only a handful of RTTY Q's. I'm sure I
could've completed a RTTY QSO with any of those 5 if they had made an
effort
on RTTY.

No matter how I slice it or dice it, FT8 is not a superior mode. Both the
detractors and supporters of FT8 are suffering from the myth that FT8
makes
DX'ing easier. It does not. I tried hard to max out FT8 using any
quantitative measure in 2018 - just look at the number of hours I invested
- and FT8 came up short in every single measure, including the
hard-DX-oriented measures you propose.

Tim N3QE






--

Justin Mattes-KC2GIK
http://www.justinmattes.com


Re: Up and running portable in Lake Havasu

Alan Sorum WL7CG
 

On cover of QRZ this morning. WL7CG


Re: FT8 vs other modes - my numbers

Brian Wolf Leverich
 

Hi all -

I did a *lot* of FT8 in 2018, as kinda shows from my IGC standings. ;)

And I have a nuanced perspective on it as a DX mode.

The good news is that FT8 is a high-power mode. There are stations
world-wide that are running a kilowatt or more into yagis and 4-squares.

Combined with FT8's weak-signal decoding, that means it can be a kickass
DX mode even during the years while the propagation gods are sleeping.

The problem is that we have half of all HF QSOs being compressed into
about 2.5 KHz on each band. That means 100 strong stations fill the
band, and a station running 80W next door can pretty efficiently drown
out even a high-power DX station.

About the only time I can work "rare" FT8 DX is during 0800Z-1100Z, not
because of propagation but because most American hams are off the air
during that window.

CW and RTTY can sprawl across 100 KHz or more on each band, and there
are fewer stations spread across all that spectrum. That means there
is less interference between stations and less propensity for local
stations to drown out DX.

FT8 would be a more useful DX mode if they colonized more slices of the
spectrum so stations would spread out and the locals would stop stomping
all over each other and DX stations.

Until they do that, I'll be seeing you on FT8 at 0800Z ...

73 de Wolf (WA6I)

On Sun, Feb 03, 2019 at 09:36:45AM -0600, Jerry N9AVY wrote:

FWIW from another list…

-----Original Message-----

Mike, you are buying into a myth that both supporters and detractors of FT8
perpetuate. The myth that FT8 is superior for DX'ing, to other modes.

2018 was my "year of FT8". I participated in several on-air WSJT new feature
tests including DXpedition mode testing. I spent the vast majority of my
on-air hours, outside of contests, on FT8. I CQ'd a lot on FT8 and also
chased DX on FT8.

You ask: " Productive in what way? To work new ones? ". I specifically
checked by 2018 log statistics for new band slots. I worked 4 new band slots
on 160M in 2018 - zero on FT8. I worked 13 new ones on 80M in 2018 - none on
FT8. I worked 5 new ones on 40M in 2018 - none on FT8. And so on.

You also ask: "How many countries did you work on FT8 that you did not or
could not work on any other mode." My answer: I worked 4 ATNO's in 2018.
None did I need FT8 to confirm.

Now, I did work 13 of DXpeditions in 2018 for new digital mode DXCC credit
in 2018. If I look at these stats, 8 of them I worked on RTTY, and 5 I
worked on FT8. But the ones I worked on FT8 completely neglected RTTY - they
never did any RTTY at all or made only a handful of RTTY Q's. I'm sure I
could've completed a RTTY QSO with any of those 5 if they had made an effort
on RTTY.

No matter how I slice it or dice it, FT8 is not a superior mode. Both the
detractors and supporters of FT8 are suffering from the myth that FT8 makes
DX'ing easier. It does not. I tried hard to max out FT8 using any
quantitative measure in 2018 - just look at the number of hours I invested
- and FT8 came up short in every single measure, including the
hard-DX-oriented measures you propose.

Tim N3QE


Re: Up and running portable in Lake Havasu

Rick - N7WE
 

Paula-
How about an update?  How is the portable op going?  Were you able to get on 40m and have any luck?  Could you make it into the Pacific on either band?  Any DX into Europe or South America?  I think you initially said you would be there for a month.  Does that mean you will be on from there for the Valentine Sprint?  Sure could use a YL contact from Lake Havasu City! 73,
--
Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602


Re: FT8 vs other modes - my numbers

David Yockey
 


You are right.  I work FT8 and have a lot of QSOs, but I have GREAT difficulty working DX on FT8.  I even have trouble working West Coast on FT8 while working a vast amount of DX on CW.  I am on DXCC Honor Roll but have trouble working Europe on FT8.  I can go to CW and work Europe easily.

On Sun, Feb 3, 2019 at 10:36 AM, Jerry N9AVY
<n9avy@...> wrote:

FWIW   from another list…

 

 

-----Original Message-----

 

Mike, you are buying into a myth that both supporters and detractors of FT8

perpetuate. The myth that FT8 is superior for DX'ing, to other modes.

 

2018 was my "year of FT8". I participated in several on-air WSJT new feature

tests including DXpedition mode testing. I spent the vast majority of my

on-air hours, outside of contests, on FT8. I CQ'd a lot on FT8 and also

chased DX on FT8.

 

You ask: " Productive in what way?  To work new ones? ". I specifically

checked by 2018 log statistics for new band slots. I worked 4 new band slots

on 160M in 2018 - zero on FT8. I worked 13 new ones on 80M in 2018 - none on

FT8. I worked 5 new ones on 40M in 2018 - none on FT8. And so on.

 

You also ask: "How many countries did you work on FT8 that you did not or

could not work on any other mode." My answer: I worked 4 ATNO's in 2018.

None did I need FT8 to confirm.

 

Now, I did work 13 of DXpeditions in 2018 for new digital mode DXCC credit

in 2018. If I look at these stats, 8 of them I worked on RTTY, and 5 I

worked on FT8. But the ones I worked on FT8 completely neglected RTTY - they

never did any RTTY at all or made only a handful of RTTY Q's. I'm sure I

could've completed a RTTY QSO with any of those 5 if they had made an effort

on RTTY.

 

No matter how I slice it or dice it, FT8 is not a superior mode. Both the

detractors and supporters of FT8 are suffering from the myth that FT8 makes

DX'ing easier. It does not. I tried hard to max out FT8 using any

quantitative measure in 2018 - just look at the number of hours I invested

- and FT8 came up short in every single measure, including the

hard-DX-oriented measures you propose.

 

Tim N3QE

 

 

 


FT8 vs other modes - my numbers

Jerry N9AVY
 

FWIW   from another list…

 

 

-----Original Message-----

 

Mike, you are buying into a myth that both supporters and detractors of FT8

perpetuate. The myth that FT8 is superior for DX'ing, to other modes.

 

2018 was my "year of FT8". I participated in several on-air WSJT new feature

tests including DXpedition mode testing. I spent the vast majority of my

on-air hours, outside of contests, on FT8. I CQ'd a lot on FT8 and also

chased DX on FT8.

 

You ask: " Productive in what way?  To work new ones? ". I specifically

checked by 2018 log statistics for new band slots. I worked 4 new band slots

on 160M in 2018 - zero on FT8. I worked 13 new ones on 80M in 2018 - none on

FT8. I worked 5 new ones on 40M in 2018 - none on FT8. And so on.

 

You also ask: "How many countries did you work on FT8 that you did not or

could not work on any other mode." My answer: I worked 4 ATNO's in 2018.

None did I need FT8 to confirm.

 

Now, I did work 13 of DXpeditions in 2018 for new digital mode DXCC credit

in 2018. If I look at these stats, 8 of them I worked on RTTY, and 5 I

worked on FT8. But the ones I worked on FT8 completely neglected RTTY - they

never did any RTTY at all or made only a handful of RTTY Q's. I'm sure I

could've completed a RTTY QSO with any of those 5 if they had made an effort

on RTTY.

 

No matter how I slice it or dice it, FT8 is not a superior mode. Both the

detractors and supporters of FT8 are suffering from the myth that FT8 makes

DX'ing easier. It does not. I tried hard to max out FT8 using any

quantitative measure in 2018 - just look at the number of hours I invested

- and FT8 came up short in every single measure, including the

hard-DX-oriented measures you propose.

 

Tim N3QE

 

 

 


Re: Up and running portable in Lake Havasu

Peter, NN9K #2629
 

No problem--enjoy the "vacation"!

On 2/1/2019 4:39 PM, Paula K7PAX #1739 via Groups.Io wrote:

Peter,

 

My computer locked up and I had to restart DM780 – I watched for a while to see if you would call me again, but I didn’t see you, so I moved on to the Japan Station. Hope to get you again. Sorry about that!

 

Paula K7PAX 1739

 

From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> On Behalf Of Peter, NN9K #2629
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2019 1:58 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Up and running portable in Lake Havasu

 

Paula---you signal was looking good but you disappeared.................have fun and CU another time!

--
Peter, NN9K

Goals are dreams with due dates.

"The Truth Is Out There"


Re: Up and running portable in Lake Havasu

Paula K7PAX #1739
 

Peter,

 

My computer locked up and I had to restart DM780 – I watched for a while to see if you would call me again, but I didn’t see you, so I moved on to the Japan Station. Hope to get you again. Sorry about that!

 

Paula K7PAX 1739

 

From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> On Behalf Of Peter, NN9K #2629
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2019 1:58 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Up and running portable in Lake Havasu

 

Paula---you signal was looking good but you disappeared.................have fun and CU another time!


KC3EF March Trip

Richard Rohrer
 

Our March trip is from FL along the Gulf coast down to Brownsville, TX, the back up to Austin, TX, and then back to FL.  If anyone would like the Google map send me a e-mail off list to kc3ef at arrl.net and I will send it.  If there are any grids that are needed along the route let me know.  We can make small detours.  
--
Dick - KC3EF
070 - 747


Re: Up and running portable in Lake Havasu

Paula K7PAX #1739
 

Paul, I will be here for a while, so you’ll have a chance to get me on 40 meters. And anyone else that needs a YL on 40 meters! Come one, come all! I will be on this evening if at all possible!

 

Paula K7PAX 1739

 

From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> On Behalf Of Paul Butzi (W7PFB)
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2019 2:29 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Up and running portable in Lake Havasu

 

Paula’s got a great signal on 20m into the PNW USA.  And yes, Suke JM7OLW is booming in here as well, down low.  Suke has been appearing pretty consistently every afternoon.  Always great to connect with hiim!

 

I’m sad I won’t be home to try 40m tonite, I think that would get my 88 Tri-Band endorsement.

 

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!



On Feb 1, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Paula K7PAX #1739 via Groups.Io <hamette@...> wrote:

 

And I just worked my friend Suke, JM7OLW in Fukushima on 20m easy. I’m so stoked! This is gonna be so much fun! Woo Hoo!

 

Paula K7PAX 1739

 

From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick - N7WE
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2019 2:05 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Up and running portable in Lake Havasu

 

Worked Paula easily from central Florida on 20m.  Strong signal, but I did have some local QRM that got in the way.  She had the dipole leaning against the house - and up only about 15 ft!  But it worked!  She is planning to be on 40m this evening.  Look for her and give her a call!  
-- 
Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602

 


Re: Up and running portable in Lake Havasu

Richard Rohrer
 

Just worked Paula and a good signal into FL.  The hamstick dipole seems to be working well on 20mtrs. 

73
Dick - KC3EF


Re: Up and running portable in Lake Havasu

Paul Butzi (W7PFB)
 

Paula’s got a great signal on 20m into the PNW USA.  And yes, Suke JM7OLW is booming in here as well, down low.  Suke has been appearing pretty consistently every afternoon.  Always great to connect with hiim!

I’m sad I won’t be home to try 40m tonite, I think that would get my 88 Tri-Band endorsement.

-p W7PFB
73, Don’t forget to smile and have fun!

On Feb 1, 2019, at 2:10 PM, Paula K7PAX #1739 via Groups.Io <hamette@...> wrote:

And I just worked my friend Suke, JM7OLW in Fukushima on 20m easy. I’m so stoked! This is gonna be so much fun! Woo Hoo!
 
Paula K7PAX 1739
 
From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick - N7WE
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2019 2:05 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Up and running portable in Lake Havasu
 
Worked Paula easily from central Florida on 20m.  Strong signal, but I did have some local QRM that got in the way.  She had the dipole leaning against the house - and up only about 15 ft!  But it worked!  She is planning to be on 40m this evening.  Look for her and give her a call!  
-- 
Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602



Re: Up and running portable in Lake Havasu

Paula K7PAX #1739
 

And I just worked my friend Suke, JM7OLW in Fukushima on 20m easy. I’m so stoked! This is gonna be so much fun! Woo Hoo!

 

Paula K7PAX 1739

 

From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> On Behalf Of Rick - N7WE
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2019 2:05 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Up and running portable in Lake Havasu

 

Worked Paula easily from central Florida on 20m.  Strong signal, but I did have some local QRM that got in the way.  She had the dipole leaning against the house - and up only about 15 ft!  But it worked!  She is planning to be on 40m this evening.  Look for her and give her a call!  
--
Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602


Re: Up and running portable in Lake Havasu

Rick - N7WE
 

Worked Paula easily from central Florida on 20m.  Strong signal, but I did have some local QRM that got in the way.  She had the dipole leaning against the house - and up only about 15 ft!  But it worked!  She is planning to be on 40m this evening.  Look for her and give her a call!  
--
Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602


Re: Up and running portable in Lake Havasu

Peter, NN9K #2629
 

Paula---you signal was looking good but you disappeared.................have fun and CU another time!


Up and running portable in Lake Havasu

Paula K7PAX #1739
 

Hi Guys!

I am up and running on 20m Quickstik dipole in Lake Havasu City. Just work Connecticut and North Carolina. Rick, where are you?

Paula K7PAX 1739


Paula es ham stick dipoles

John Kirby
 

Paula,

You will not regret ham stick dipoles, vertical or horizontal
Vertical, omni directional and lower takeoff angle
Horizontal, side lobe null for couple dB signal advantage front and back

IF time allows before your trip you will not regret, a giant ferrite toroid and a couple BNC to binding post adaptors (see attached image configuration). Common mode magic, helps keep RF on antenna and off coax & key

Side note, my highschool granddaughter KC3EGN set (and holds) our club PSK-31 record ARRL FD couple years back with hamstick dipoles :>))

Amazing how ancillary kit is larger/heavier than XCVR

Enjoy your trip !!!

John
N3AAZ
FM19
070 1337
LONP 0349


Re: Certificate and Rollo tag

Brian (N2MLP)
 

Sounds great


But no big rush needed

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Matthew King - AK4MK
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 5:40 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Certificate and Rollo tag

 

Ah, OK.

 

I think I did send certificates for the 2017 contests out to everyone that had one coming, but I must have missed the one for 2017 Triple Play when I sent your other stuff.

 

I'll get one made up and sent out to you.

 

73

 

Matt King

AK4MK - 070 #1708

PODXS 070 Club Executive Director

 

On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 4:18 PM Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...> wrote:

I got one for 31 flavors for 2017

 

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Matthew King - AK4MK
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 8:49 AM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Certificate and Rollo tag

 

Wait a sec....  Brian, you say you're waiting on a 2017 certificate, and there was a "thanks for getting them out this year" comment.  Did anybody receive certificates for 2017?

 

Y'all give me some feedback, please - if you were Top Dawg or placed in a 2017 contest (or more than one) and did not receive the appropriate certificate, please let me know.

 

I *thought* I had already sent them out. If not, I need to do that!  

 

Thanks, y'all.

 

73

 

Matt King

AK4MK - 070 #1708

PODXS 070 Club Executive Director

 

On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 1:18 PM Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...> wrote:

I also received a envelope containing certificates today. 

Many thanks to all the volunteers.

Still awaiting Certificate and Rollo tag for:

070 Triple Play 2017

 

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

========================

 

 


Re: Certificate and Rollo tag

Matthew King - AK4MK <kk4cps@...>
 

Ah, OK.

I think I did send certificates for the 2017 contests out to everyone that had one coming, but I must have missed the one for 2017 Triple Play when I sent your other stuff.

I'll get one made up and sent out to you.

73

Matt King
AK4MK - 070 #1708
PODXS 070 Club Executive Director


On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 4:18 PM Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...> wrote:

I got one for 31 flavors for 2017

 

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Matthew King - AK4MK
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 8:49 AM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Certificate and Rollo tag

 

Wait a sec....  Brian, you say you're waiting on a 2017 certificate, and there was a "thanks for getting them out this year" comment.  Did anybody receive certificates for 2017?

 

Y'all give me some feedback, please - if you were Top Dawg or placed in a 2017 contest (or more than one) and did not receive the appropriate certificate, please let me know.

 

I *thought* I had already sent them out. If not, I need to do that!  

 

Thanks, y'all.

 

73

 

Matt King

AK4MK - 070 #1708

PODXS 070 Club Executive Director

 

On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 1:18 PM Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...> wrote:

I also received a envelope containing certificates today. 

Many thanks to all the volunteers.

Still awaiting Certificate and Rollo tag for:

070 Triple Play 2017

 

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

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