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Re: 30m

Brian (N2MLP)
 

{I hate autocorrect}

 

Yes you can

Iron won’t stay hot but you can put the plug on

 

There is a lot of newbie around here that use echo link  to talk on local repeaters in town

Guess so they can talk on repeater and use face book at same time

 

 

 

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         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

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From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian (N2MLP)
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 1:52 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Yes you can

Iron wont still hot but you can put the plug on

 

There is a lot of newbie around here that use echo link  to talk on local repeaters in town

Guess so they can talk on repeater and use face book at same time

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

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From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jerry N9AVY
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 1:47 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

My favorite recent one was, "  can I put an AC plug on a solder iron that has a cigarette plug on the end ?".   Lots of newbie site that make one go "hmmmmm ".

 

Jerry  n9avy

 


From: Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Just like all the new Hams that:

Chat on repeaters

Can’t build a antenna

Put a coax connector on a cable

 

 

Listen to local repeater all the time makes me laugh (sounds like CB 20 years or so ago)

They talked about setting up a two meter station for field day  (guessing a OP with HT  standing in a field)

 

 

 

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         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

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From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jerry N9AVY
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 1:35 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Good idea.    But, "you can lead a horse to water, but you can make him drink".

 

Jerry  n9avy

 


From: Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Great point

 

Need to get operators on the bands

 

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         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

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From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Stephen Melachrinos
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:29 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

I think the point is that many (but not all) of the 070 members don't use FT8. But that doesn't negate Brian's observation that there are many FT8 signals on 30m (and other bands) when it's hard to find a PSK signal.

 

The original question was where are the PSK operators? Putting our heads in the sand and looking for excuses (like propagation conditions or work schedules or whatever) and denying that many PSK ops (and prospective PSK ops) are using FT8 isn't going to get us anywhere.

 

We need to find ways to encourage PSK operation, with things that FT8 can't do. Ignoring the elephant in the room won't work.

 

Steve

W3HF 

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
To: 070Club <070Club@groups.io>
Sent: Tue, Jun 19, 2018 12:22 pm
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

???

 

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         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

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From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer - WM4B #348
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:19 PM
To: 070 Club
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Homey don't play dat!

 

Mike

WM4B

 

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Brian (N2MLP) wrote:

 

 Bands are packed with FT8  stations

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer - WM4B #348

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:00 PM

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Or working!

 

I need contacts on the WARC bands... just can't get near a radio.

 

Mike

WM4B

 

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 11:48 AM, Jerry N9AVY wrote:

 

  It might be that summer weather has people outdoors, on vacations and doing things other than ham radio ?

 

Jerry  n9avy

 

___________________________________

 

From: Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:25 AM

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Hard to find contact outside of contests any more

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy True

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 10:17 AM

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

I called for 45 minutes and had 1 taker.

 

Randy W4RTT

 

___________________________________

 

From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:37 AM

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Randy good signal in PA

 

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         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy True

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:17 AM

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Sorry, 10.140

 

Randy W4RTT

 

___________________________________

 

From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Randy True <w4rttrandy@...>

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:16 AM

To: 070Club

Subject: [070Club] 30m

 

30m Is full of FT8 signals, so there is life there. Going to hang out on 10.136 and see what happens. PSK31 mode of course.

 

 

Randy W4RTT



 

 


Re: 30m

Brian (N2MLP)
 

Oh   was in college back then  didn’t see much TV

 

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         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

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From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy True
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 1:53 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

There was a comedy show on in the 90's maybe. Guy did a character called, Homey the Clown. If he didn't care for something, he would say, "homey don't play dat"

The Wayons brothers.

 

Randy W4RTT

 


From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 1:21 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Guessing that common  English in GA.

Made no sense to me

 

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         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

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From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy True
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:45 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

If he has to explain it.....

 

Randy W4RTT

 


From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:21 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

???

 

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         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

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From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer - WM4B #348
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:19 PM
To: 070 Club
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Homey don't play dat!

 

Mike

WM4B

 

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Brian (N2MLP) wrote:

 

 Bands are packed with FT8  stations

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer - WM4B #348

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:00 PM

To: 070club@groups.io

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Or working!

 

I need contacts on the WARC bands... just can't get near a radio.

 

Mike

WM4B

 

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 11:48 AM, Jerry N9AVY wrote:

 

  It might be that summer weather has people outdoors, on vacations and doing things other than ham radio ?

 

Jerry  n9avy



___________________________________

 

From: Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>

To: 070Club@groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:25 AM

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Hard to find contact outside of contests any more

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy True

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 10:17 AM

To: 070Club@groups.io

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

I called for 45 minutes and had 1 taker.

 

Randy W4RTT

 

___________________________________

 

From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:37 AM

To: 070Club@groups.io

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Randy good signal in PA

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy True

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:17 AM

To: 070Club@groups.io

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Sorry, 10.140

 

Randy W4RTT

 

___________________________________

 

From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Randy True <w4rttrandy@...>

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:16 AM

To: 070Club

Subject: [070Club] 30m

 

30m Is full of FT8 signals, so there is life there. Going to hang out on 10.136 and see what happens. PSK31 mode of course.

 

 

Randy W4RTT






Re: 30m

Brian (N2MLP)
 

How’s it going to work?

No computer

Need to listen

No pictures

 

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         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

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From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy True
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 1:50 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Ehh, CW. Another new fangled mode. It'll never catch on!

 

Randy W4RTT

 


From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 1:17 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

And PSK is the same thing mouse clicks

The real test is, CW no keyer or computer just a radio a key and your ears

 

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         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

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From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer - WM4B #348
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:32 PM
To: 070 Club
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

I just don't see the point.  It requires no skill in my part other than the ability to sit in a chair and click a mouse.  I do that all day at work.

 

I've worked all states, a couple hundred countries... what's the point?

 

For those who enjoy it, fine with me.  Just keep 'em off the PSK segment.

 

Mike

WM4B

 

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:21 PM, Brian (N2MLP) wrote:

 

 ???

 

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         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer - WM4B #348

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:19 PM

To: 070 Club

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Homey don't play dat!

 

Mike

WM4B



On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Brian (N2MLP) wrote:

 

  Bands are packed with FT8  stations

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer - WM4B #348

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:00 PM

To: 070club@groups.io

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Or working!

 

I need contacts on the WARC bands... just can't get near a radio.

 

Mike

WM4B




On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 11:48 AM, Jerry N9AVY wrote:

 

  It might be that summer weather has people outdoors, on vacations and doing things other than ham radio ?




Jerry  n9avy





___________________________________

 

From: Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>

To: 070Club@groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:25 AM

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Hard to find contact outside of contests any more

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy True

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 10:17 AM

To: 070Club@groups.io

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

I called for 45 minutes and had 1 taker.

 

Randy W4RTT

 

___________________________________

 

From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:37 AM

To: 070Club@groups.io

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Randy good signal in PA

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy True

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:17 AM

To: 070Club@groups.io

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Sorry, 10.140

 

Randy W4RTT

 

___________________________________

 

From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Randy True <w4rttrandy@...>

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:16 AM

To: 070Club

Subject: [070Club] 30m

 

30m Is full of FT8 signals, so there is life there. Going to hang out on 10.136 and see what happens. PSK31 mode of course.

 

 

Randy W4RTT









Re: 30m

Randy True
 

There was a comedy show on in the 90's maybe. Guy did a character called, Homey the Clown. If he didn't care for something, he would say, "homey don't play dat"

The Wayons brothers.


Randy W4RTT




From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 1:21 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 

Guessing that common  English in GA.

Made no sense to me

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy True
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:45 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

If he has to explain it.....

 

Randy W4RTT

 


From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:21 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

???

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer - WM4B #348
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:19 PM
To: 070 Club
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Homey don't play dat!

 

Mike

WM4B

 

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Brian (N2MLP) wrote:

 

 Bands are packed with FT8  stations

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer - WM4B #348

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:00 PM

To: 070club@groups.io

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Or working!

 

I need contacts on the WARC bands... just can't get near a radio.

 

Mike

WM4B



On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 11:48 AM, Jerry N9AVY wrote:

 

  It might be that summer weather has people outdoors, on vacations and doing things other than ham radio ?



Jerry  n9avy




___________________________________

 

From: Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>

To: 070Club@groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:25 AM

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Hard to find contact outside of contests any more

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy True

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 10:17 AM

To: 070Club@groups.io

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

I called for 45 minutes and had 1 taker.

 

Randy W4RTT

 

___________________________________

 

From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:37 AM

To: 070Club@groups.io

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Randy good signal in PA

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy True

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:17 AM

To: 070Club@groups.io

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Sorry, 10.140

 

Randy W4RTT

 

___________________________________

 

From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Randy True <w4rttrandy@...>

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:16 AM

To: 070Club

Subject: [070Club] 30m

 

30m Is full of FT8 signals, so there is life there. Going to hang out on 10.136 and see what happens. PSK31 mode of course.

 

 

Randy W4RTT







Re: 30m

Brian (N2MLP)
 

Yes you can

Iron wont still hot but you can put the plug on

 

There is a lot of newbie around here that use echo link  to talk on local repeaters in town

Guess so they can talk on repeater and use face book at same time

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jerry N9AVY
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 1:47 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

My favorite recent one was, "  can I put an AC plug on a solder iron that has a cigarette plug on the end ?".   Lots of newbie site that make one go "hmmmmm ".

 

Jerry  n9avy

 


From: Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Just like all the new Hams that:

Chat on repeaters

Can’t build a antenna

Put a coax connector on a cable

 

 

Listen to local repeater all the time makes me laugh (sounds like CB 20 years or so ago)

They talked about setting up a two meter station for field day  (guessing a OP with HT  standing in a field)

 

 

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jerry N9AVY
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 1:35 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Good idea.    But, "you can lead a horse to water, but you can make him drink".

 

Jerry  n9avy

 


From: Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Great point

 

Need to get operators on the bands

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

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From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Stephen Melachrinos
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:29 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

I think the point is that many (but not all) of the 070 members don't use FT8. But that doesn't negate Brian's observation that there are many FT8 signals on 30m (and other bands) when it's hard to find a PSK signal.

 

The original question was where are the PSK operators? Putting our heads in the sand and looking for excuses (like propagation conditions or work schedules or whatever) and denying that many PSK ops (and prospective PSK ops) are using FT8 isn't going to get us anywhere.

 

We need to find ways to encourage PSK operation, with things that FT8 can't do. Ignoring the elephant in the room won't work.

 

Steve

W3HF 

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
To: 070Club <070Club@groups.io>
Sent: Tue, Jun 19, 2018 12:22 pm
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

???

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer - WM4B #348
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:19 PM
To: 070 Club
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Homey don't play dat!

 

Mike

WM4B

 

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Brian (N2MLP) wrote:

 

 Bands are packed with FT8  stations

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer - WM4B #348

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:00 PM

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Or working!

 

I need contacts on the WARC bands... just can't get near a radio.

 

Mike

WM4B

 

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 11:48 AM, Jerry N9AVY wrote:

 

  It might be that summer weather has people outdoors, on vacations and doing things other than ham radio ?

 

Jerry  n9avy

 

___________________________________

 

From: Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:25 AM

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Hard to find contact outside of contests any more

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy True

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 10:17 AM

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

I called for 45 minutes and had 1 taker.

 

Randy W4RTT

 

___________________________________

 

From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:37 AM

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Randy good signal in PA

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy True

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:17 AM

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Sorry, 10.140

 

Randy W4RTT

 

___________________________________

 

From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Randy True <w4rttrandy@...>

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:16 AM

To: 070Club

Subject: [070Club] 30m

 

30m Is full of FT8 signals, so there is life there. Going to hang out on 10.136 and see what happens. PSK31 mode of course.

 

 

Randy W4RTT




 

 


Re: 30m

Randy True
 

Ehh, CW. Another new fangled mode. It'll never catch on!


Randy W4RTT




From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 1:17 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 

And PSK is the same thing mouse clicks

The real test is, CW no keyer or computer just a radio a key and your ears

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer - WM4B #348
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:32 PM
To: 070 Club
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

I just don't see the point.  It requires no skill in my part other than the ability to sit in a chair and click a mouse.  I do that all day at work.

 

I've worked all states, a couple hundred countries... what's the point?

 

For those who enjoy it, fine with me.  Just keep 'em off the PSK segment.

 

Mike

WM4B



On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:21 PM, Brian (N2MLP) wrote:

 

 ???

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer - WM4B #348

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:19 PM

To: 070 Club

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Homey don't play dat!

 

Mike

WM4B




On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Brian (N2MLP) wrote:

 

  Bands are packed with FT8  stations

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer - WM4B #348

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:00 PM

To: 070club@groups.io

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Or working!

 

I need contacts on the WARC bands... just can't get near a radio.

 

Mike

WM4B





On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 11:48 AM, Jerry N9AVY wrote:

 

  It might be that summer weather has people outdoors, on vacations and doing things other than ham radio ?





Jerry  n9avy






___________________________________

 

From: Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>

To: 070Club@groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:25 AM

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Hard to find contact outside of contests any more

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy True

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 10:17 AM

To: 070Club@groups.io

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

I called for 45 minutes and had 1 taker.

 

Randy W4RTT

 

___________________________________

 

From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:37 AM

To: 070Club@groups.io

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Randy good signal in PA

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy True

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:17 AM

To: 070Club@groups.io

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Sorry, 10.140

 

Randy W4RTT

 

___________________________________

 

From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Randy True <w4rttrandy@...>

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:16 AM

To: 070Club

Subject: [070Club] 30m

 

30m Is full of FT8 signals, so there is life there. Going to hang out on 10.136 and see what happens. PSK31 mode of course.

 

 

Randy W4RTT










Re: 30m

Jerry N9AVY
 

My favorite recent one was, "  can I put an AC plug on a solder iron that has a cigarette plug on the end ?".   Lots of newbie site that make one go "hmmmmm ".

Jerry  n9avy



From: Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

Just like all the new Hams that:
Chat on repeaters
Can’t build a antenna
Put a coax connector on a cable
 
 
Listen to local repeater all the time makes me laugh (sounds like CB 20 years or so ago)
They talked about setting up a two meter station for field day  (guessing a OP with HT  standing in a field)
 
 
 
========================
         de N2MLP Brian
       Monroe County PA
 
 
========================
 
 
From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jerry N9AVY
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 1:35 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
Good idea.    But, "you can lead a horse to water, but you can make him drink".
 
Jerry  n9avy
 

From: Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
Great point
 
Need to get operators on the bands
 
========================
         de N2MLP Brian
       Monroe County PA
 
 
========================
 
 
From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Stephen Melachrinos
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:29 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
I think the point is that many (but not all) of the 070 members don't use FT8. But that doesn't negate Brian's observation that there are many FT8 signals on 30m (and other bands) when it's hard to find a PSK signal.
 
The original question was where are the PSK operators? Putting our heads in the sand and looking for excuses (like propagation conditions or work schedules or whatever) and denying that many PSK ops (and prospective PSK ops) are using FT8 isn't going to get us anywhere.
 
We need to find ways to encourage PSK operation, with things that FT8 can't do. Ignoring the elephant in the room won't work.
 
Steve
W3HF 
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
To: 070Club <070Club@groups.io>
Sent: Tue, Jun 19, 2018 12:22 pm
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
???
 
========================
         de N2MLP Brian
       Monroe County PA
 
 
========================
 
 
From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer - WM4B #348
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:19 PM
To: 070 Club
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
Homey don't play dat!
 
Mike
WM4B
 
On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Brian (N2MLP) wrote:
 
 Bands are packed with FT8  stations
 
========================
         de N2MLP Brian
       Monroe County PA
 
 
cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...
========================
 
 
From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer - WM4B #348
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
Or working!
 
I need contacts on the WARC bands... just can't get near a radio.
 
Mike
WM4B
 
On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 11:48 AM, Jerry N9AVY wrote:
 
  It might be that summer weather has people outdoors, on vacations and doing things other than ham radio ?
 
Jerry  n9avy


___________________________________
 
From: Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
Hard to find contact outside of contests any more
 
========================
         de N2MLP Brian
       Monroe County PA
 
 
cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...
========================
 
 
From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy True
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
I called for 45 minutes and had 1 taker.
 
Randy W4RTT
 
___________________________________
 
From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
Randy good signal in PA
 
========================
         de N2MLP Brian
       Monroe County PA
 
 
cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...
========================
 
 
From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy True
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
Sorry, 10.140
 
Randy W4RTT
 
___________________________________
 
From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Randy True <w4rttrandy@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:16 AM
To: 070Club
Subject: [070Club] 30m
 
30m Is full of FT8 signals, so there is life there. Going to hang out on 10.136 and see what happens. PSK31 mode of course.
 
 
Randy W4RTT




 



Re: 30m

Brian (N2MLP)
 

Should say Can’t build a antenna or

Put a coax connector on a cable

 

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian (N2MLP)
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 1:43 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Just like all the new Hams that:

Chat on repeaters

Can’t build a antenna

Put a coax connector on a cable

 

 

Listen to local repeater all the time makes me laugh (sounds like CB 20 years or so ago)

They talked about setting up a two meter station for field day  (guessing a OP with HT  standing in a field)

 

 

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jerry N9AVY
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 1:35 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Good idea.    But, "you can lead a horse to water, but you can make him drink".

 

Jerry  n9avy

 


From: Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Great point

 

Need to get operators on the bands

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Stephen Melachrinos
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:29 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

I think the point is that many (but not all) of the 070 members don't use FT8. But that doesn't negate Brian's observation that there are many FT8 signals on 30m (and other bands) when it's hard to find a PSK signal.

 

The original question was where are the PSK operators? Putting our heads in the sand and looking for excuses (like propagation conditions or work schedules or whatever) and denying that many PSK ops (and prospective PSK ops) are using FT8 isn't going to get us anywhere.

 

We need to find ways to encourage PSK operation, with things that FT8 can't do. Ignoring the elephant in the room won't work.

 

Steve

W3HF 

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
To: 070Club <070Club@groups.io>
Sent: Tue, Jun 19, 2018 12:22 pm
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

???

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer - WM4B #348
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:19 PM
To: 070 Club
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Homey don't play dat!

 

Mike

WM4B

 

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Brian (N2MLP) wrote:

 

 Bands are packed with FT8  stations

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer - WM4B #348

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:00 PM

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Or working!

 

I need contacts on the WARC bands... just can't get near a radio.

 

Mike

WM4B

 

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 11:48 AM, Jerry N9AVY wrote:

 

  It might be that summer weather has people outdoors, on vacations and doing things other than ham radio ?

 

Jerry  n9avy

 

___________________________________

 

From: Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:25 AM

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Hard to find contact outside of contests any more

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy True

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 10:17 AM

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

I called for 45 minutes and had 1 taker.

 

Randy W4RTT

 

___________________________________

 

From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:37 AM

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Randy good signal in PA

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy True

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:17 AM

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Sorry, 10.140

 

Randy W4RTT

 

___________________________________

 

From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Randy True <w4rttrandy@...>

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:16 AM

To: 070Club

Subject: [070Club] 30m

 

30m Is full of FT8 signals, so there is life there. Going to hang out on 10.136 and see what happens. PSK31 mode of course.

 

 

Randy W4RTT




 


Re: 30m

Jerry N9AVY
 

Ah yes ,  glass glow-in-the-dark transistors !   Loved 'em !

Jerry  n9avy



From: Mike Besemer - WM4B #348 <mwbesemer@...>
To: 070 Club <070club@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

Spent my first 10 years in the hobby almost strictly on CW; got my 30 WPM certificate when I was 17.  (I wonder where I filed that thing?!)

Lots of fun with a Heathkit HW-101 and and HD-1410.  All that hollow-state stuff kept you warm at night!

Mike
WM4B


On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 1:17 PM, Brian (N2MLP) wrote:

 And PSK is the same thing mouse clicks
The real test is, CW no keyer or computer just a radio a key and your ears
 
========================
         de N2MLP Brian
       Monroe County PA
 
 
cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...
========================
 
 
From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer - WM4B #348
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:32 PM
To: 070 Club
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
I just don't see the point.  It requires no skill in my part other than the ability to sit in a chair and click a mouse.  I do that all day at work.
 
I've worked all states, a couple hundred countries... what's the point?
 
For those who enjoy it, fine with me.  Just keep 'em off the PSK segment.
 
Mike
WM4B



On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:21 PM, Brian (N2MLP) wrote:
 
  ???
 
========================
         de N2MLP Brian
       Monroe County PA
 
 
cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...
========================
 
 
From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer - WM4B #348
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:19 PM
To: 070 Club
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
Homey don't play dat!
 
Mike
WM4B




On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Brian (N2MLP) wrote:
 
  Bands are packed with FT8  stations
 
========================
         de N2MLP Brian
       Monroe County PA
 
 
cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...
========================
 
 
From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer - WM4B #348
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:00 PM
To: 070club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
Or working!
 
I need contacts on the WARC bands... just can't get near a radio.
 
Mike
WM4B





On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 11:48 AM, Jerry N9AVY wrote:
 
  It might be that summer weather has people outdoors, on vacations and doing things other than ham radio ?





Jerry  n9avy






___________________________________
 
From: Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
Hard to find contact outside of contests any more
 
========================
         de N2MLP Brian
       Monroe County PA
 
 
cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...
========================
 
 
From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy True
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 10:17 AM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
I called for 45 minutes and had 1 taker.
 
Randy W4RTT
 
___________________________________
 
From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:37 AM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
Randy good signal in PA
 
========================
         de N2MLP Brian
       Monroe County PA
 
 
cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...
========================
 
 
From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy True
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:17 AM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
Sorry, 10.140
 
Randy W4RTT
 
___________________________________
 
From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Randy True <w4rttrandy@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:16 AM
To: 070Club
Subject: [070Club] 30m
 
30m Is full of FT8 signals, so there is life there. Going to hang out on 10.136 and see what happens. PSK31 mode of course.
 
 
Randy W4RTT













Re: 30m

Brian (N2MLP)
 

Just like all the new Hams that:

Chat on repeaters

Can’t build a antenna

Put a coax connector on a cable

 

 

Listen to local repeater all the time makes me laugh (sounds like CB 20 years or so ago)

They talked about setting up a two meter station for field day  (guessing a OP with HT  standing in a field)

 

 

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jerry N9AVY
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 1:35 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Good idea.    But, "you can lead a horse to water, but you can make him drink".

 

Jerry  n9avy

 


From: Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Great point

 

Need to get operators on the bands

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Stephen Melachrinos
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:29 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

I think the point is that many (but not all) of the 070 members don't use FT8. But that doesn't negate Brian's observation that there are many FT8 signals on 30m (and other bands) when it's hard to find a PSK signal.

 

The original question was where are the PSK operators? Putting our heads in the sand and looking for excuses (like propagation conditions or work schedules or whatever) and denying that many PSK ops (and prospective PSK ops) are using FT8 isn't going to get us anywhere.

 

We need to find ways to encourage PSK operation, with things that FT8 can't do. Ignoring the elephant in the room won't work.

 

Steve

W3HF 

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
To: 070Club <070Club@groups.io>
Sent: Tue, Jun 19, 2018 12:22 pm
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

???

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer - WM4B #348
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:19 PM
To: 070 Club
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Homey don't play dat!

 

Mike

WM4B

 

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Brian (N2MLP) wrote:

 

 Bands are packed with FT8  stations

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer - WM4B #348

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:00 PM

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Or working!

 

I need contacts on the WARC bands... just can't get near a radio.

 

Mike

WM4B

 

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 11:48 AM, Jerry N9AVY wrote:

 

  It might be that summer weather has people outdoors, on vacations and doing things other than ham radio ?

 

Jerry  n9avy



___________________________________

 

From: Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:25 AM

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Hard to find contact outside of contests any more

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy True

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 10:17 AM

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

I called for 45 minutes and had 1 taker.

 

Randy W4RTT

 

___________________________________

 

From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:37 AM

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Randy good signal in PA

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy True

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:17 AM

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Sorry, 10.140

 

Randy W4RTT

 

___________________________________

 

From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Randy True <w4rttrandy@...>

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:16 AM

To: 070Club

Subject: [070Club] 30m

 

30m Is full of FT8 signals, so there is life there. Going to hang out on 10.136 and see what happens. PSK31 mode of course.

 

 

Randy W4RTT





 


Re: 30m

Mike Besemer - WM4B #348 <mwbesemer@...>
 

Not even close.  


On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 1:21 PM, Brian (N2MLP) wrote:

 Guessing that common  English in GA.
Made no sense to me
 
========================
         de N2MLP Brian
       Monroe County PA
 
 
cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...
========================
 
 
From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy True
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:45 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
If he has to explain it.....
 
Randy W4RTT
 
___________________________________

From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:21 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
???
 
========================
         de N2MLP Brian
       Monroe County PA
 
 
cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...
========================
 
 
From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer - WM4B #348
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:19 PM
To: 070 Club
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
Homey don't play dat!
 
Mike
WM4B
 
On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Brian (N2MLP) wrote:
 
  Bands are packed with FT8  stations
 
========================
         de N2MLP Brian
       Monroe County PA
 
 
cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...
========================
 
 
From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer - WM4B #348
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:00 PM
To: 070club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
Or working!
 
I need contacts on the WARC bands... just can't get near a radio.
 
Mike
WM4B



On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 11:48 AM, Jerry N9AVY wrote:
 
  It might be that summer weather has people outdoors, on vacations and doing things other than ham radio ?



Jerry  n9avy




___________________________________
 
From: Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
Hard to find contact outside of contests any more
 
========================
         de N2MLP Brian
       Monroe County PA
 
 
cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...
========================
 
 
From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy True
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 10:17 AM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
I called for 45 minutes and had 1 taker.
 
Randy W4RTT
 
___________________________________
 
From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:37 AM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
Randy good signal in PA
 
========================
         de N2MLP Brian
       Monroe County PA
 
 
cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...
========================
 
 
From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy True
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:17 AM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
Sorry, 10.140
 
Randy W4RTT
 
___________________________________
 
From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Randy True <w4rttrandy@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:16 AM
To: 070Club
Subject: [070Club] 30m
 
30m Is full of FT8 signals, so there is life there. Going to hang out on 10.136 and see what happens. PSK31 mode of course.
 
 
Randy W4RTT








Re: 30m

Jerry N9AVY
 

Good idea.    But, "you can lead a horse to water, but you can make him drink".

Jerry  n9avy



From: Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

Great point
 
Need to get operators on the bands
 
========================
         de N2MLP Brian
       Monroe County PA
 
 
========================
 
 
From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Stephen Melachrinos
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:29 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
I think the point is that many (but not all) of the 070 members don't use FT8. But that doesn't negate Brian's observation that there are many FT8 signals on 30m (and other bands) when it's hard to find a PSK signal.
 
The original question was where are the PSK operators? Putting our heads in the sand and looking for excuses (like propagation conditions or work schedules or whatever) and denying that many PSK ops (and prospective PSK ops) are using FT8 isn't going to get us anywhere.
 
We need to find ways to encourage PSK operation, with things that FT8 can't do. Ignoring the elephant in the room won't work.
 
Steve
W3HF 

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
To: 070Club <070Club@groups.io>
Sent: Tue, Jun 19, 2018 12:22 pm
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
???
 
========================
         de N2MLP Brian
       Monroe County PA
 
 
========================
 
 
From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer - WM4B #348
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:19 PM
To: 070 Club
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
Homey don't play dat!
 
Mike
WM4B
 
On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Brian (N2MLP) wrote:
 
 Bands are packed with FT8  stations
 
========================
         de N2MLP Brian
       Monroe County PA
 
 
cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...
========================
 
 
From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer - WM4B #348
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
Or working!
 
I need contacts on the WARC bands... just can't get near a radio.
 
Mike
WM4B


On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 11:48 AM, Jerry N9AVY wrote:
 
  It might be that summer weather has people outdoors, on vacations and doing things other than ham radio ?


Jerry  n9avy



___________________________________
 
From: Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
Hard to find contact outside of contests any more
 
========================
         de N2MLP Brian
       Monroe County PA
 
 
cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...
========================
 
 
From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy True
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
I called for 45 minutes and had 1 taker.
 
Randy W4RTT
 
___________________________________
 
From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
Randy good signal in PA
 
========================
         de N2MLP Brian
       Monroe County PA
 
 
cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...
========================
 
 
From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy True
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
Sorry, 10.140
 
Randy W4RTT
 
___________________________________
 
From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Randy True <w4rttrandy@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:16 AM
To: 070Club
Subject: [070Club] 30m
 
30m Is full of FT8 signals, so there is life there. Going to hang out on 10.136 and see what happens. PSK31 mode of course.
 
 
Randy W4RTT








Re: 30m

Mike Besemer - WM4B #348 <mwbesemer@...>
 

Spent my first 10 years in the hobby almost strictly on CW; got my 30 WPM certificate when I was 17.  (I wonder where I filed that thing?!)

Lots of fun with a Heathkit HW-101 and and HD-1410.  All that hollow-state stuff kept you warm at night!

Mike
WM4B


On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 1:17 PM, Brian (N2MLP) wrote:

 And PSK is the same thing mouse clicks
The real test is, CW no keyer or computer just a radio a key and your ears
 
========================
         de N2MLP Brian
       Monroe County PA
 
 
cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...
========================
 
 
From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer - WM4B #348
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:32 PM
To: 070 Club
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
I just don't see the point.  It requires no skill in my part other than the ability to sit in a chair and click a mouse.  I do that all day at work.
 
I've worked all states, a couple hundred countries... what's the point?
 
For those who enjoy it, fine with me.  Just keep 'em off the PSK segment.
 
Mike
WM4B



On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:21 PM, Brian (N2MLP) wrote:
 
  ???
 
========================
         de N2MLP Brian
       Monroe County PA
 
 
cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...
========================
 
 
From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer - WM4B #348
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:19 PM
To: 070 Club
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
Homey don't play dat!
 
Mike
WM4B




On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Brian (N2MLP) wrote:
 
  Bands are packed with FT8  stations
 
========================
         de N2MLP Brian
       Monroe County PA
 
 
cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...
========================
 
 
From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer - WM4B #348
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:00 PM
To: 070club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
Or working!
 
I need contacts on the WARC bands... just can't get near a radio.
 
Mike
WM4B





On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 11:48 AM, Jerry N9AVY wrote:
 
  It might be that summer weather has people outdoors, on vacations and doing things other than ham radio ?





Jerry  n9avy






___________________________________
 
From: Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
Hard to find contact outside of contests any more
 
========================
         de N2MLP Brian
       Monroe County PA
 
 
cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...
========================
 
 
From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy True
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 10:17 AM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
I called for 45 minutes and had 1 taker.
 
Randy W4RTT
 
___________________________________
 
From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:37 AM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
Randy good signal in PA
 
========================
         de N2MLP Brian
       Monroe County PA
 
 
cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...
========================
 
 
From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy True
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:17 AM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
Sorry, 10.140
 
Randy W4RTT
 
___________________________________
 
From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Randy True <w4rttrandy@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:16 AM
To: 070Club
Subject: [070Club] 30m
 
30m Is full of FT8 signals, so there is life there. Going to hang out on 10.136 and see what happens. PSK31 mode of course.
 
 
Randy W4RTT











Re: 30m

Brian (N2MLP)
 

I guessing the CW operators feel the same way

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy True
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:58 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

I guess I have the advantage; or disadvantage at times, of being able to sit in front of the radio at virtually any time of day and play radio. PSK was the first mode I took to and I stayed there most all the time. When the PSK signals started to disappear, I began tuning around and found the new guy in town. It's just something new. I like it. But I always check the PSK band first. Just took a swing across the dial, and there are FT signals on every band but 160 right now. Every one. Hard to compete with that.It doesn't look like the newness is going to wear off ant time soon.

 

Randy W4RTT

 


From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Mike Besemer - WM4B #348 <mwbesemer@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:39 PM
To: 070 Club
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

It would be useful to give some advance warning when planning to operate in 'other than the usual locations'; maybe the day or evening before.  I can operate remotely from work but that requires a little prior planning. 

 

FWIW, 30 meters has been full of FT8 signals for a long time.  I'd be a lot more excited to get on 17 and 12 meters; of course, openings on those bands are a bit more unpredicitable (and thus harder to preplan for) at this point in the sunspot cycle. 

 

Mike

WM4B

 

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:28 PM, Stephen Melachrinos wrote:

 

 I think the point is that many (but not all) of the 070 members don't use FT8. But that doesn't negate Brian's observation that there are many FT8 signals on 30m (and other bands) when it's hard to find a PSK signal.

 

The original question was where are the PSK operators? Putting our heads in the sand and looking for excuses (like propagation conditions or work schedules or whatever) and denying that many PSK ops (and prospective PSK ops) are using FT8 isn't going to get us anywhere.

 

We need to find ways to encourage PSK operation, with things that FT8 can't do. Ignoring the elephant in the room won't work.

 

Steve

W3HF 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>

To: 070Club <070Club@groups.io>

Sent: Tue, Jun 19, 2018 12:22 pm

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

???

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io[ mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer - WM4B #348

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:19 PM

To: 070 Club

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Homey don't play dat!

 

Mike

WM4B

 

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Brian (N2MLP) wrote:

 

  Bands are packed with FT8  stations

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151- 4E18E044767E@...

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io[ mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer - WM4B #348

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:00 PM

To: 070club@groups.io

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Or working!

 

I need contacts on the WARC bands... just can't get near a radio.

 

Mike

WM4B



On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 11:48 AM, Jerry N9AVY wrote:

 

  It might be that summer weather has people outdoors, on vacations and doing things other than ham radio ?



Jerry  n9avy




___________________________________

 

From: Brian (N2MLP) < n2mlp@...>

To: 070Club@groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:25 AM

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Hard to find contact outside of contests any more

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151- 4E18E044767E@...

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io[ mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy True

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 10:17 AM

To: 070Club@groups.io

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

I called for 45 minutes and had 1 taker.

 

Randy W4RTT

 

___________________________________

 

From: 070Club@groups.io< 070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Brian (N2MLP) < n2mlp@...>

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:37 AM

To: 070Club@groups.io

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Randy good signal in PA

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151- 4E18E044767E@...

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io[ mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy True

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:17 AM

To: 070Club@groups.io

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Sorry, 10.140

 

Randy W4RTT

 

___________________________________

 

From: 070Club@groups.io< 070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Randy True < w4rttrandy@...>

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:16 AM

To: 070Club

Subject: [070Club] 30m

 

30m Is full of FT8 signals, so there is life there. Going to hang out on 10.136 and see what happens. PSK31 mode of course.

 

 

Randy W4RTT







Re: 30m

Mike Besemer - WM4B #348 <mwbesemer@...>
 

LOL!  You gotta be pretty old (and twisted) to remember that!

Mike
WM4B


On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:44 PM, Randy True wrote:

 If he has to explain it.....



Randy W4RTT



___________________________________

From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:21 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m  
???
 
========================
         de N2MLP Brian
       Monroe County PA
 
 
cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...
========================
 
 
From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer - WM4B #348
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:19 PM
To: 070 Club
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
Homey don't play dat!
 
Mike
WM4B



On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Brian (N2MLP) wrote:
 
  Bands are packed with FT8  stations
 
========================
         de N2MLP Brian
       Monroe County PA
 
 
cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...
========================
 
 
From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer - WM4B #348
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:00 PM
To: 070club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
Or working!
 
I need contacts on the WARC bands... just can't get near a radio.
 
Mike
WM4B




On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 11:48 AM, Jerry N9AVY wrote:
 
  It might be that summer weather has people outdoors, on vacations and doing things other than ham radio ?




Jerry  n9avy





___________________________________
 
From: Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
Hard to find contact outside of contests any more
 
========================
         de N2MLP Brian
       Monroe County PA
 
 
cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...
========================
 
 
From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy True
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 10:17 AM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
I called for 45 minutes and had 1 taker.
 
Randy W4RTT
 
___________________________________
 
From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:37 AM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
Randy good signal in PA
 
========================
         de N2MLP Brian
       Monroe County PA
 
 
cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...
========================
 
 
From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy True
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:17 AM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
Sorry, 10.140
 
Randy W4RTT
 
___________________________________
 
From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Randy True <w4rttrandy@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:16 AM
To: 070Club
Subject: [070Club] 30m
 
30m Is full of FT8 signals, so there is life there. Going to hang out on 10.136 and see what happens. PSK31 mode of course.
 
 
Randy W4RTT









Re: 30m

Brian (N2MLP)
 

Guessing that common  English in GA.

Made no sense to me

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy True
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:45 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

If he has to explain it.....

 

Randy W4RTT

 


From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:21 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

???

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer - WM4B #348
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:19 PM
To: 070 Club
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Homey don't play dat!

 

Mike

WM4B

 

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Brian (N2MLP) wrote:

 

 Bands are packed with FT8  stations

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer - WM4B #348

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:00 PM

To: 070club@groups.io

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Or working!

 

I need contacts on the WARC bands... just can't get near a radio.

 

Mike

WM4B



On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 11:48 AM, Jerry N9AVY wrote:

 

  It might be that summer weather has people outdoors, on vacations and doing things other than ham radio ?



Jerry  n9avy




___________________________________

 

From: Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>

To: 070Club@groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:25 AM

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Hard to find contact outside of contests any more

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy True

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 10:17 AM

To: 070Club@groups.io

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

I called for 45 minutes and had 1 taker.

 

Randy W4RTT

 

___________________________________

 

From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:37 AM

To: 070Club@groups.io

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Randy good signal in PA

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy True

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:17 AM

To: 070Club@groups.io

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Sorry, 10.140

 

Randy W4RTT

 

___________________________________

 

From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Randy True <w4rttrandy@...>

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:16 AM

To: 070Club

Subject: [070Club] 30m

 

30m Is full of FT8 signals, so there is life there. Going to hang out on 10.136 and see what happens. PSK31 mode of course.

 

 

Randy W4RTT







Re: 30m

Brian (N2MLP)
 

And PSK is the same thing mouse clicks

The real test is, CW no keyer or computer just a radio a key and your ears

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer - WM4B #348
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:32 PM
To: 070 Club
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

I just don't see the point.  It requires no skill in my part other than the ability to sit in a chair and click a mouse.  I do that all day at work.

 

I've worked all states, a couple hundred countries... what's the point?

 

For those who enjoy it, fine with me.  Just keep 'em off the PSK segment.

 

Mike

WM4B



On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:21 PM, Brian (N2MLP) wrote:

 

 ???

 

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         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...

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From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer - WM4B #348

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:19 PM

To: 070 Club

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Homey don't play dat!

 

Mike

WM4B




On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Brian (N2MLP) wrote:

 

  Bands are packed with FT8  stations

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer - WM4B #348

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:00 PM

To: 070club@groups.io

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Or working!

 

I need contacts on the WARC bands... just can't get near a radio.

 

Mike

WM4B





On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 11:48 AM, Jerry N9AVY wrote:

 

  It might be that summer weather has people outdoors, on vacations and doing things other than ham radio ?





Jerry  n9avy






___________________________________

 

From: Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>

To: 070Club@groups.io

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:25 AM

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Hard to find contact outside of contests any more

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy True

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 10:17 AM

To: 070Club@groups.io

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

I called for 45 minutes and had 1 taker.

 

Randy W4RTT

 

___________________________________

 

From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:37 AM

To: 070Club@groups.io

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Randy good signal in PA

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy True

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:17 AM

To: 070Club@groups.io

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Sorry, 10.140

 

Randy W4RTT

 

___________________________________

 

From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Randy True <w4rttrandy@...>

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:16 AM

To: 070Club

Subject: [070Club] 30m

 

30m Is full of FT8 signals, so there is life there. Going to hang out on 10.136 and see what happens. PSK31 mode of course.

 

 

Randy W4RTT










Re: 30m

Brian (N2MLP)
 

Great point

 

Need to get operators on the bands

 

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         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

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From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Stephen Melachrinos
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:29 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

I think the point is that many (but not all) of the 070 members don't use FT8. But that doesn't negate Brian's observation that there are many FT8 signals on 30m (and other bands) when it's hard to find a PSK signal.

 

The original question was where are the PSK operators? Putting our heads in the sand and looking for excuses (like propagation conditions or work schedules or whatever) and denying that many PSK ops (and prospective PSK ops) are using FT8 isn't going to get us anywhere.

 

We need to find ways to encourage PSK operation, with things that FT8 can't do. Ignoring the elephant in the room won't work.

 

Steve

W3HF 

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
To: 070Club <070Club@groups.io>
Sent: Tue, Jun 19, 2018 12:22 pm
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

???

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer - WM4B #348
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:19 PM
To: 070 Club
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Homey don't play dat!

 

Mike

WM4B

 

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Brian (N2MLP) wrote:

 

 Bands are packed with FT8  stations

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer - WM4B #348

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:00 PM

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Or working!

 

I need contacts on the WARC bands... just can't get near a radio.

 

Mike

WM4B



On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 11:48 AM, Jerry N9AVY wrote:

 

  It might be that summer weather has people outdoors, on vacations and doing things other than ham radio ?



Jerry  n9avy




___________________________________

 

From: Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:25 AM

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Hard to find contact outside of contests any more

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy True

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 10:17 AM

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

I called for 45 minutes and had 1 taker.

 

Randy W4RTT

 

___________________________________

 

From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:37 AM

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Randy good signal in PA

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...

========================

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy True

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:17 AM

Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

 

Sorry, 10.140

 

Randy W4RTT

 

___________________________________

 

From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Randy True <w4rttrandy@...>

Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:16 AM

To: 070Club

Subject: [070Club] 30m

 

30m Is full of FT8 signals, so there is life there. Going to hang out on 10.136 and see what happens. PSK31 mode of course.

 

 

Randy W4RTT







Re: 30m

Jerry N9AVY
 

FT-8 ops will never get up past 250 DXCC much less over the 335 mark.

Jerry  n9avy



From: Mike Besemer - WM4B #348 <mwbesemer@...>
To: 070 Club <070club@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

I just don't see the point.  It requires no skill in my part other than the ability to sit in a chair and click a mouse.  I do that all day at work.

I've worked all states, a couple hundred countries... what's the point?

For those who enjoy it, fine with me.  Just keep 'em off the PSK segment.

Mike
WM4B


On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:21 PM, Brian (N2MLP) wrote:

 ???
 
========================
         de N2MLP Brian
       Monroe County PA
 
 
cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...
========================
 
 
From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer - WM4B #348
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:19 PM
To: 070 Club
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
Homey don't play dat!
 
Mike
WM4B



On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Brian (N2MLP) wrote:
 
  Bands are packed with FT8  stations
 
========================
         de N2MLP Brian
       Monroe County PA
 
 
cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...
========================
 
 
From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer - WM4B #348
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:00 PM
To: 070club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
Or working!
 
I need contacts on the WARC bands... just can't get near a radio.
 
Mike
WM4B




On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 11:48 AM, Jerry N9AVY wrote:
 
  It might be that summer weather has people outdoors, on vacations and doing things other than ham radio ?




Jerry  n9avy





___________________________________
 
From: Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
Hard to find contact outside of contests any more
 
========================
         de N2MLP Brian
       Monroe County PA
 
 
cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...
========================
 
 
From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy True
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 10:17 AM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
I called for 45 minutes and had 1 taker.
 
Randy W4RTT
 
___________________________________
 
From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:37 AM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
Randy good signal in PA
 
========================
         de N2MLP Brian
       Monroe County PA
 
 
cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...
========================
 
 
From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy True
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:17 AM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
Sorry, 10.140
 
Randy W4RTT
 
___________________________________
 
From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Randy True <w4rttrandy@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:16 AM
To: 070Club
Subject: [070Club] 30m
 
30m Is full of FT8 signals, so there is life there. Going to hang out on 10.136 and see what happens. PSK31 mode of course.
 
 
Randy W4RTT











Re: 30m

Randy True
 

I guess I have the advantage; or disadvantage at times, of being able to sit in front of the radio at virtually any time of day and play radio. PSK was the first mode I took to and I stayed there most all the time. When the PSK signals started to disappear, I began tuning around and found the new guy in town. It's just something new. I like it. But I always check the PSK band first. Just took a swing across the dial, and there are FT signals on every band but 160 right now. Every one. Hard to compete with that.It doesn't look like the newness is going to wear off ant time soon.


Randy W4RTT




From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Mike Besemer - WM4B #348 <mwbesemer@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:39 PM
To: 070 Club
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
It would be useful to give some advance warning when planning to operate in 'other than the usual locations'; maybe the day or evening before.  I can operate remotely from work but that requires a little prior planning. 

FWIW, 30 meters has been full of FT8 signals for a long time.  I'd be a lot more excited to get on 17 and 12 meters; of course, openings on those bands are a bit more unpredicitable (and thus harder to preplan for) at this point in the sunspot cycle. 

Mike
WM4B


On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:28 PM, Stephen Melachrinos wrote:

 I think the point is that many (but not all) of the 070 members don't use FT8. But that doesn't negate Brian's observation that there are many FT8 signals on 30m (and other bands) when it's hard to find a PSK signal.

The original question was where are the PSK operators? Putting our heads in the sand and looking for excuses (like propagation conditions or work schedules or whatever) and denying that many PSK ops (and prospective PSK ops) are using FT8 isn't going to get us anywhere.


We need to find ways to encourage PSK operation, with things that FT8 can't do. Ignoring the elephant in the room won't work.


Steve
W3HF 


-----Original Message-----
From: Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
To: 070Club <070Club@groups.io>
Sent: Tue, Jun 19, 2018 12:22 pm
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m

???
 
========================
         de N2MLP Brian
       Monroe County PA
 
 
cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151-4E18E044767E@...
========================
 
 
From: 070Club@groups.io[ mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer - WM4B #348
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:19 PM
To: 070 Club
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
Homey don't play dat!
 
Mike
WM4B


On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Brian (N2MLP) wrote:
 
  Bands are packed with FT8  stations
 
========================
         de N2MLP Brian
       Monroe County PA
 
 
cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151- 4E18E044767E@...
========================
 
 
From: 070Club@groups.io[ mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer - WM4B #348
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
Or working!
 
I need contacts on the WARC bands... just can't get near a radio.
 
Mike
WM4B



On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 11:48 AM, Jerry N9AVY wrote:
 
  It might be that summer weather has people outdoors, on vacations and doing things other than ham radio ?



Jerry  n9avy




___________________________________
 
From: Brian (N2MLP) < n2mlp@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
Hard to find contact outside of contests any more
 
========================
         de N2MLP Brian
       Monroe County PA
 
 
cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151- 4E18E044767E@...
========================
 
 
From: 070Club@groups.io[ mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy True
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
I called for 45 minutes and had 1 taker.
 
Randy W4RTT
 
___________________________________
 
From: 070Club@groups.io< 070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Brian (N2MLP) < n2mlp@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
Randy good signal in PA
 
========================
         de N2MLP Brian
       Monroe County PA
 
 
cid:21CA93CE-AC8F-4FA3-8151- 4E18E044767E@...
========================
 
 
From: 070Club@groups.io[ mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Randy True
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: [070Club] 30m
 
Sorry, 10.140
 
Randy W4RTT
 
___________________________________
 
From: 070Club@groups.io< 070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Randy True < w4rttrandy@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 9:16 AM
To: 070Club
Subject: [070Club] 30m
 
30m Is full of FT8 signals, so there is life there. Going to hang out on 10.136 and see what happens. PSK31 mode of course.
 
 
Randy W4RTT






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