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Re: Section Manager Response Re: FT8

Justin Mattes--KC2GIK
 

Which is why we need to invade to CW band to get their attention. I have
been saying this for a long time now and it goes unnoticed
Justin KC2GIK
They were sure flying the FT8 flag high and proud when the mode came out,
but now that it’s becoming a headache they want to wash their hands of
it. Go figure.

He’s right about the OO program, but it was broke before the FCC totally
quit enforcement. That’s why I turned in my credentials.

So much for representing the hobby.

Mike
WM4B

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim K5SP
Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 4:51 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: [070Club] Section Manager Response Re: FT8

This is what I received from the NTX section Manage to my message to him
regarding the FT8 issues:

Jim,

I am not sure what I can do to help. I bet many of these stateside FT8
operators are newbies and may not even be members of the league.

The OO program is basically dead at this point due to FCC dysfunction.


The ARRL has no standing to pressure another company to do anything.


The OO program would probably be the best bet. I am CC'ing the NTX OOC on
this reply.


You could also write an article for QRZ--

1. If the OO program is "Dead", why would the OO program be the best bet?
2. Anyone want to write a QRZ article?
3. Would agree ARRL has no official standing, but, are they not acting
like a PAC with the FCC? They can and do lobby for what they think is in
the best interest of hams (or what will line their pockets).

--
Jim, K5SP #483
Member Services Director







Justin Mattes-KC2GIK
http://www.justinmattes.com


True Received Frequency

Steve VA3FLF/KM4FLF
 

So I noticed last week that another frequency measuring test was conducted by K5CM and I assume sponsored by ARRL. Not really thinking the process through I measured the frequencies for 40 and 20 Meters using DM780 from HRD. Afterwards I realized that I would have and did make an error. If I am using USB to look at a signal, then I am really inserting an audio / side band error. 

So sure enough, I was 23 Hz off on 40M and 57 Hz off on 20M. So I noticed on DM780 you can select the frequency for the waterfall or select Hz from the base frequency. If you select frequency DM780 allows you to enter an offset to adjust the frequency across the waterfall.  Here are my questions?

Example, My radio is set for 14.070. I see a trace on the waterfall at 1000 Hz. This should translate to 14.071. But if we are using USB is there an error being inserted to the true received frequency?

How is that offset or error measured?   I would assume that since I am selected 14.070 USB, I am not really on 14.070 am I?

Something to change the subject and put on thinking hats...any thoughts?

Steve
VA3FLF
2301


Re: Section Manager Response Re: FT8

Bob Adams <wa2aar.pa@...>
 

The ARRL will back the FT8 stations because of the grid contest and there is nothing we can do.
When FT8 was put out should have stated the frequency. If you are not a paid member of the ARRL
they just tell you to go to hell they will not help you at all. The ARRL is now just a business and all
they want is the dues and money. It is a big joke even trying to to ask them to help.

Bob - wa2aar
 

On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 6:38 PM, Jerry N9AVY <n9avy@...> wrote:
When I first became an Official Observer several years ago,  I "caught" about 40 stations on 14349 during a DX Contest.  Yes, they were about 2+ kHz. out of band. I sent them all notices and when I got my my notice sent in, I had my wrist slapped because it apparently flooded the ARRL  with too many email complaints... "No, it wasn't me out of band  !!!!"  and I guess some phone calls and letters. Some DX Contesters seem to be a bunch of of whiners when they get caught out of band... no wonder the FCC gave up on enforcement.
 
So, it would seem that the ARRL  doesn't want their OO's doing "too good of a job". Had I really worked harder I could have logged about another 100 out of band.  The ARRL just wants everyone to do a couple OO reports a month and be mediocre.
 
In January this year I let my ARRL membership of many years lapse (and probably my OO appointment as well). They just want you dues money and everyone should make waves.
 
Finally, the responses all seem the be in line with the Old Pullman Bedbug Letter which will have to be googled if you want to know what that's about.
 
 
Jerry  
 



From: Mike Besemer - WM4B #348 <mwbesemer@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 4:33 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] Section Manager Response Re: FT8

They were sure flying the FT8 flag high and proud when the mode came out, but now that it’s becoming a headache they want to wash their hands of it.  Go figure.

He’s right about the OO program, but it was broke before the FCC totally quit enforcement.  That’s why I turned in my credentials.

So much for representing the hobby.

Mike
WM4B

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim K5SP
Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 4:51 PM
Subject: [070Club] Section Manager Response Re: FT8

This is what I received from the NTX section Manage to my message to him regarding the FT8 issues:

Jim,

I am not sure what I can do to help. I bet many of these stateside FT8 operators are newbies and may not even be members of the league.

The OO program is basically dead at this point due to FCC dysfunction.


The ARRL has no standing to pressure another company to do anything.


The OO program would probably be the best bet. I am CC'ing the NTX OOC on this reply.


You could also write an article for QRZ--

1. If the OO program is "Dead", why would the OO program be the best bet?
2. Anyone want to write a QRZ article?
3. Would agree ARRL has no official standing, but, are they not acting like a PAC with the FCC?  They can and do lobby for what they think is in the best interest of hams (or what will line their pockets).

--
Jim,  K5SP #483
Member Services Director







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Re: Section Manager Response Re: FT8

Jerry N9AVY
 

When I first became an Official Observer several years ago,  I "caught" about 40 stations on 14349 during a DX Contest.  Yes, they were about 2+ kHz. out of band. I sent them all notices and when I got my my notice sent in, I had my wrist slapped because it apparently flooded the ARRL  with too many email complaints... "No, it wasn't me out of band  !!!!"  and I guess some phone calls and letters. Some DX Contesters seem to be a bunch of of whiners when they get caught out of band... no wonder the FCC gave up on enforcement.
 
So, it would seem that the ARRL  doesn't want their OO's doing "too good of a job". Had I really worked harder I could have logged about another 100 out of band.  The ARRL just wants everyone to do a couple OO reports a month and be mediocre.
 
In January this year I let my ARRL membership of many years lapse (and probably my OO appointment as well). They just want you dues money and everyone should make waves.
 
Finally, the responses all seem the be in line with the Old Pullman Bedbug Letter which will have to be googled if you want to know what that's about.
 
 
Jerry  
 



From: Mike Besemer - WM4B #348 <mwbesemer@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 4:33 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] Section Manager Response Re: FT8

They were sure flying the FT8 flag high and proud when the mode came out, but now that it’s becoming a headache they want to wash their hands of it.  Go figure.

He’s right about the OO program, but it was broke before the FCC totally quit enforcement.  That’s why I turned in my credentials.

So much for representing the hobby.

Mike
WM4B

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim K5SP
Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 4:51 PM
Subject: [070Club] Section Manager Response Re: FT8

This is what I received from the NTX section Manage to my message to him regarding the FT8 issues:

Jim,

I am not sure what I can do to help. I bet many of these stateside FT8 operators are newbies and may not even be members of the league.

The OO program is basically dead at this point due to FCC dysfunction.


The ARRL has no standing to pressure another company to do anything.


The OO program would probably be the best bet. I am CC'ing the NTX OOC on this reply.


You could also write an article for QRZ--

1. If the OO program is "Dead", why would the OO program be the best bet?
2. Anyone want to write a QRZ article?
3. Would agree ARRL has no official standing, but, are they not acting like a PAC with the FCC?  They can and do lobby for what they think is in the best interest of hams (or what will line their pockets).

--
Jim,  K5SP #483
Member Services Director







Virus-free. www.avg.com


Re: Section Manager Response Re: FT8

Mike Besemer - WM4B #348 <mwbesemer@...>
 

They were sure flying the FT8 flag high and proud when the mode came out, but now that it’s becoming a headache they want to wash their hands of it. Go figure.

He’s right about the OO program, but it was broke before the FCC totally quit enforcement. That’s why I turned in my credentials.

So much for representing the hobby.

Mike
WM4B

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim K5SP
Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 4:51 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: [070Club] Section Manager Response Re: FT8

This is what I received from the NTX section Manage to my message to him regarding the FT8 issues:

Jim,

I am not sure what I can do to help. I bet many of these stateside FT8 operators are newbies and may not even be members of the league.

The OO program is basically dead at this point due to FCC dysfunction.


The ARRL has no standing to pressure another company to do anything.


The OO program would probably be the best bet. I am CC'ing the NTX OOC on this reply.


You could also write an article for QRZ--

1. If the OO program is "Dead", why would the OO program be the best bet?
2. Anyone want to write a QRZ article?
3. Would agree ARRL has no official standing, but, are they not acting like a PAC with the FCC? They can and do lobby for what they think is in the best interest of hams (or what will line their pockets).

--
Jim, K5SP #483
Member Services Director


Re: Section Manager Response Re: FT8

Mike Flowers
 

The FT8 ops are not operating illegally. 

We just think that where they are operating is discourteous to us and steps on our long-standing PSK31 frequencies. 

Neither the FCC nor the ARRL is going to do anything about our displeasure because there is no regulatory reason for them to do so.   

There is certainly no upside for the ARRL to lobby the FCC for one mode over another. 

OK, back into my cave ...

-- Mike Flowers, K6MKF, NCDXC - "It's about DX!"

On Apr 9, 2018, at 1:50 PM, Jim K5SP <jinnis@...> wrote:

This is what I received from the NTX section Manage to my message to him regarding the FT8 issues:

Jim,

I am not sure what I can do to help. I bet many of these stateside FT8 operators are newbies and may not even be members of the league.

The OO program is basically dead at this point due to FCC dysfunction.


The ARRL has no standing to pressure another company to do anything.


The OO program would probably be the best bet. I am CC'ing the NTX OOC on this reply.


You could also write an article for QRZ--

1. If the OO program is "Dead", why would the OO program be the best bet?
2. Anyone want to write a QRZ article?
3. Would agree ARRL has no official standing, but, are they not acting like a PAC with the FCC?  They can and do lobby for what they think is in the best interest of hams (or what will line their pockets).

--
Jim,  K5SP #483
Member Services Director


Section Manager Response Re: FT8

Jim K5SP
 

This is what I received from the NTX section Manage to my message to him regarding the FT8 issues:

Jim,

I am not sure what I can do to help. I bet many of these stateside FT8 operators are newbies and may not even be members of the league.

The OO program is basically dead at this point due to FCC dysfunction.


The ARRL has no standing to pressure another company to do anything.


The OO program would probably be the best bet. I am CC'ing the NTX OOC on this reply.


You could also write an article for QRZ--

1. If the OO program is "Dead", why would the OO program be the best bet?
2. Anyone want to write a QRZ article?
3. Would agree ARRL has no official standing, but, are they not acting like a PAC with the FCC?  They can and do lobby for what they think is in the best interest of hams (or what will line their pockets).

--
Jim,  K5SP #483
Member Services Director


Re: KK7UQ IMD Meter for sale on eHam

Rick - N7WE
 

If I get it wrong this time, I wasn't meant to send it!  LOL!
Click Here
--
Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602


Re: KK7UQ IMD Meter for sale on eHam

Rick - N7WE
 

Trying again...this time with the link!  Monday morning dummy here!  I will wake up, I will wake up, I will....zzzzzz.
http://www.eham.net/classifieds/detail/541482
--
Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602


KK7UQ IMD Meter for sale on eHam

Rick - N7WE
 

Just saw this listing on eHam.  Great item if you are a PSK operator!  
--
Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602


31 Flavors Contest Scorer setup

Matthew King - AK4MK <kk4cps@...>
 

Shame on me!

I thought I had already contacted David about setting up the contest scorer for 31 Flavors. Apparently I did not, as there is no facility for submitting the 2018 31 Flavors scores, as many of you have noticed.

I am SOOOOO sorry for the lapse!

I have now contacted David.  I cannot promise when it will be done, but I'm sure he will do it as quickly as he can. As Steve, W3HF said, if it goes on for too terribly long (more than a day or two) then we will certainly expand the submission window to give extra time.

I will post to both groups as soon as the scorer has been setup for the 31 Flavors contest for this year.

73

Matt King
AK4MK - 070 #1708
PODXS 070 Club Executive Director



Scorer

Jim K5SP
 

It appears that the contest scorer is not setup for this years 31 Flavors contest logs to be submitted.
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Jim,  K5SP #483
Member Services Director


Re: Welcome

bowerjohn41 <poppajohnbower@...>
 

Welcome Mario hope to see you in the 31 Flavors Contest today
John KE4JB

On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 11:52 AM, Jim K5SP <jinnis@...> wrote:

Please join me in welcoming our new PODXS070 member(s).

2619  Mario  GM3MZX

Jim, K5SP #483
Membership Director


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Jim,  K5SP #483
Member Services Director



Welcome

Jim K5SP
 

Please join me in welcoming our new PODXS070 member(s).

2619  Mario  GM3MZX

Jim, K5SP #483
Membership Director


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Jim,  K5SP #483
Member Services Director


Re: KC3EF Road Trip

Jerry N9AVY
 

Good news !
 
 
Back on the air with a TS-570S &  Signalink USB !    Took some doing to get it running, but have made a few contacts. Not quite like the ol" FT-1000MP, but it'll do.
 
A happy camper once again...  :-)
 
 
Jerry   n9avy
 



From: VA7GEM -1470 via Groups.Io <boat.anchor@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 6, 2018 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] KC3EF Road Trip

On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 12:30 pm, Jerry N9AVY wrote:
Looks like I'm off the air until my FT-1000 comes back from repair shop in 6-8 weeks.  
 
 
Looks like I'll end up a grid short....
 
Jerry  n9avy
 
Jerry
Terrible news. If I still had the spare FLEX I would send it to you.
Had a grid short in an amp once. Not a pretty sight.
Barry



Re: KC3EF Road Trip

VA7GEM -1470 <boat.anchor@...>
 

On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 12:30 pm, Jerry N9AVY wrote:
Looks like I'm off the air until my FT-1000 comes back from repair shop in 6-8 weeks.  
 
 
Looks like I'll end up a grid short....
 
Jerry  n9avy
 
 
Jerry
Terrible news. If I still had the spare FLEX I would send it to you.
Had a grid short in an amp once. Not a pretty sight.
Barry


Re: FW: FT8 Complaint

Gary GM7USC
 

I think with FT8 there’s been a Hugh uptake so people with no experiance and little knowledge of digital modes are purely ignorant of how these modes work.


Re: Special Notices

Jerry N9AVY
 

Then you missed the free money offer, huh ?  


jerry   n9avy


From: "David Blankenburg, AK7DB" <ak7db@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 6, 2018 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] Special Notices

My main reason for selecting special notices only was because I don’t want to get any messages via email.  I prefer to just go to the site if I want to see what’s going on.  Maybe others are choosing it for the same reason.

I’ve been off PSK31 for about a year but maybe I’ll find the time again some day.

Dave, AK7DB

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Re: Special Notices

Gary GM7USC
 

Thanks for the heads up Jim, now changed to daily digest.
i did wonder why I wasn’t receiving anything.
Gary GM7USC 


Re: 31 Flavors

Jerry N9AVY
 

If all this  "global warming"  nonsense turns out to be true the smart money is on International Falls, MN becoming the Miami of the Midwest in January !
 
Jerry n9avy



From: Jim K5SP <jinnis@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 6, 2018 2:08 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] 31 Flavors

And, we are under a freeze warning for overnight.  Come on, this is Texas in April!!  Mother nature is on drugs.
Jim KSP

On 4/6/2018 1:39 PM, Jerry N9AVY wrote:
At least no hurricanes nor tsunamis !   Look on the bright side .  

Jerry   n9avy

From: Jim K5SP <jinnis@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 6, 2018 12:40 PM
Subject: [070Club] 31 Flavors

Just a reminder that 31 Flavors is this weekend.  Hope to see everyone there.

I just might not be able to operate, the WX forecast is not good for this area, severe storms are forecast, and for this area means possible high winds, rain, hail, lightning/thunder, and possible tornadoes.  (It is Spring and it is Texas).

--
Jim,  K5SP #483
Member Services Director



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