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Re: Hustler 6BTV

VA7GEM-1470 <boat.anchor@...>
 

On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 04:14 pm, K8TOM wrote:
Dick,

Ah, visiting the Pacific NW in August.   It's a great time to visit, as it's the least likely time for us to have significant rainfall. 

Unless I plan an outdoor adventure, that is.  A while back I did a 10 day (pedal) bike camping trip through Western WA and BC in August.  Seven days of rain, as I remember.  So, as they say, Your Mileage May Vary.

73, 
Tom 
K8TOM
815
That's why we use outboard engines to mow the grass.
Now the tourists will stay away and I will have no-one to brag to about BC
or our fine neighbours in WA.
Barry


Re: 160 Meters tonight

VA7GEM-1470 <boat.anchor@...>
 

On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 04:55 pm, Jim K5SP wrote:
Have been on 160 for almost an hour, calling CQ.  Noise level is a little high here.  Do not see/hear any other signals at this time.
Will try again between 0130-0230
--
Jim,  K5SP #483
Member Services Director
Same luck here Jim
Will keep on CQing for a bit
Barry


Re: monitoring 1807 (160m

Richard Rohrer
 

Seeing a couple of faint traces in FL, but no real decode.

 

Dick – KC3EF

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jim K5SP
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 7:28 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] monitoring 1807 (160m

 

CQing at about 1808.3
--
Jim,  K5SP #483
Member Services Director


Re: Hustler 6BTV

Richard Rohrer
 

Hi Tom,

 

Spent several weeks out in Oregon working a few years ago in May/June.  Lots of snow melt so all of the waterfalls on the Columbia were really full.  Crater Lake still had 10ft of snow and it snowed on us when we went to visit, hi hi.  Not what we expected on June 1st.  Looking forward to hopefully seeing the lake without the snow.   We plan on using the Chrysler Mini-Van, to use to flatland bike riding. 

 

73

Dick – KC3EF

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of K8TOM
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 7:15 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV

 

Dick,

Ah, visiting the Pacific NW in August.   It's a great time to visit, as it's the least likely time for us to have significant rainfall. 

Unless I plan an outdoor adventure, that is.  A while back I did a 10 day (pedal) bike camping trip through Western WA and BC in August.  Seven days of rain, as I remember.  So, as they say, Your Mileage May Vary.

73, 
Tom 
K8TOM
815


160 Meters tonight

Jim K5SP
 

Have been on 160 for almost an hour, calling CQ.  Noise level is a little high here.  Do not see/hear any other signals at this time.
Will try again between 0130-0230
--
Jim,  K5SP #483
Member Services Director


Re: monitoring 1807 (160m

Jim K5SP
 

CQing at about 1808.3
--
Jim,  K5SP #483
Member Services Director


Re: Hustler 6BTV

K8TOM
 

Dick,

Ah, visiting the Pacific NW in August.   It's a great time to visit, as it's the least likely time for us to have significant rainfall. 

Unless I plan an outdoor adventure, that is.  A while back I did a 10 day (pedal) bike camping trip through Western WA and BC in August.  Seven days of rain, as I remember.  So, as they say, Your Mileage May Vary.

73, 
Tom 
K8TOM
815


Re: Hustler 6BTV

Brian (N2MLP)
 

Do you mean I don’t have to cut my coax to a ¼ wave

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jerry N9AVY
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 7:08 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV

 

It was meant in somewhat of a jest in that verticals have no forward gain and side rejection.  Beams are the optimal choice when you have the room & height. The more elements the higher the gain...mine has about 12 db forward gain, but it should be nearer to 50 or 70 ft.

 

In the end we're all stuck with the antenna we already have. The vertical is a good general purpose antenna which sends signal in all directions unless pattern is skewed.  Beams are good, but better if a monoband at right height. Dipoles are okay , but better on lower bands and are easy to put up.

Not CB wise tales like cutting your coax to a certain length (which is an indication that SWR bridge is a piece of CB garbage).

 

 

 


From: Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV

 

So untrue  (CB wise tails)

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jerry N9AVY
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 6:37 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV

 

Okay, but early on in ham radio, I learned that "a vertical is an antenna that radiates equally poor in all directions" 

 

 

Jerry  n9avy

 


From: Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV

 

Have both the zero 5 and the GAP Titan

BOTH ARE GREAT ANTENNA

 

 

NEVER GOT THE Gap to tune correct on 15M

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Morris
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 5:19 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV

 

Never had the 6BTV but was going to get the Gap Titan (I think it was the Titan) but eventually decided on the Zero Five since it does not have any traps to mess with or foul up on me.

 

I have the Zero Five 27’ vertical and my SWR is:

80        1.0

40        1.0

30        1.0

20        1.0

17        1.3

15        1.3

12        1.2

10        1.0

 

I have 40 radials and length of all is 27’ — It was sooooo easy to set up and once I got the hole dug took me a whopping 30 minutes to put together and install in the ground.  Then it took 2 days to do the radials. I have a radial plate and a tilt mast in case of heavy winds but have never had to lower it , YET!!!


Dan Morris  KZ3T  070-1065

 

I live to live for Him!

 

 

 

 

On Jan 31, 2018, at 5:02 PM, Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@...> wrote:

 

Well Dick, I'm certainly jealous behind all that antenna farm!  Oh how I wish!

One thought - when you move the traps are you going for lowest SWR or X=0 (or as low as you can get it)?  I read somewhere that you should get rid of reactance (X)  to get resonance and let the SWR fall where it may.  Not sure what that means, but the X component is what I tried to get rid of and the SWR fell in line.  Don't know that that is right, but that is what I did.

I do notice from your readings that the lower bands have a fair amount of reactance (X value).  Reactance can be either capacitive or inductive.  There is a trick (I can't remember) that you can do with the MFJ 259b to determine which the X is.  Something about tuning up or down and watching which way the X goes.  Once you know, then you can figure out how to get rid of it.  At that point it would be back to the ARRL Antenna book for me!

Maybe someone else can jump in here and give us both some insight.

Rick

 


--
Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602

 

 

 


Re: monitoring 1807 (160m

Brian (N2MLP)
 

Now you have a summer project

 

N3CAU strong in PA

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Matthew King - AK4MK
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 7:04 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] monitoring 1807 (160m

 

Wish I could play 160 with you guys, but I have nothing in the air for 160.... I can't tune the 6BTV there with the old Versa Tuner II and make my radio happy.  

 

~sigh~

 

Y'all have fun with it!

 

73

 

Matt King

AK4MK - 070 #1708

PODXS 070 Club Executive Director

 

 

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On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 7:01 PM, Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...> wrote:

Nothing in PA

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of VA7GEM-1470 via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 6:57 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] monitoring 1807 (160m

 

Calling at +1500
Barry

 


Re: Hustler 6BTV

Jerry N9AVY
 

It was meant in somewhat of a jest in that verticals have no forward gain and side rejection.  Beams are the optimal choice when you have the room & height. The more elements the higher the gain...mine has about 12 db forward gain, but it should be nearer to 50 or 70 ft.

In the end we're all stuck with the antenna we already have. The vertical is a good general purpose antenna which sends signal in all directions unless pattern is skewed.  Beams are good, but better if a monoband at right height. Dipoles are okay , but better on lower bands and are easy to put up.
Not CB wise tales like cutting your coax to a certain length (which is an indication that SWR bridge is a piece of CB garbage).




From: Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV

So untrue  (CB wise tails)
 
From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jerry N9AVY
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 6:37 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV
 
Okay, but early on in ham radio, I learned that "a vertical is an antenna that radiates equally poor in all directions" 
 
 
Jerry  n9avy
 

From: Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV
 
Have both the zero 5 and the GAP Titan
BOTH ARE GREAT ANTENNA
 
 
NEVER GOT THE Gap to tune correct on 15M
 
From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Morris
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 5:19 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV
 
Never had the 6BTV but was going to get the Gap Titan (I think it was the Titan) but eventually decided on the Zero Five since it does not have any traps to mess with or foul up on me.
 
I have the Zero Five 27’ vertical and my SWR is:
80        1.0
40        1.0
30        1.0
20        1.0
17        1.3
15        1.3
12        1.2
10        1.0
 
I have 40 radials and length of all is 27’ — It was sooooo easy to set up and once I got the hole dug took me a whopping 30 minutes to put together and install in the ground.  Then it took 2 days to do the radials. I have a radial plate and a tilt mast in case of heavy winds but have never had to lower it , YET!!!

Dan Morris  KZ3T  070-1065
 
I live to live for Him!
 
 
 
 
On Jan 31, 2018, at 5:02 PM, Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@...> wrote:
 
Well Dick, I'm certainly jealous behind all that antenna farm!  Oh how I wish!
One thought - when you move the traps are you going for lowest SWR or X=0 (or as low as you can get it)?  I read somewhere that you should get rid of reactance (X)  to get resonance and let the SWR fall where it may.  Not sure what that means, but the X component is what I tried to get rid of and the SWR fell in line.  Don't know that that is right, but that is what I did.
I do notice from your readings that the lower bands have a fair amount of reactance (X value).  Reactance can be either capacitive or inductive.  There is a trick (I can't remember) that you can do with the MFJ 259b to determine which the X is.  Something about tuning up or down and watching which way the X goes.  Once you know, then you can figure out how to get rid of it.  At that point it would be back to the ARRL Antenna book for me!
Maybe someone else can jump in here and give us both some insight.
Rick
 

--
Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602
 
 



Re: monitoring 1807 (160m

Matthew King - AK4MK <kk4cps@...>
 

Wish I could play 160 with you guys, but I have nothing in the air for 160.... I can't tune the 6BTV there with the old Versa Tuner II and make my radio happy.  

~sigh~

Y'all have fun with it!

73

Matt King
AK4MK - 070 #1708
PODXS 070 Club Executive Director


Virus-free. www.avast.com

On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 7:01 PM, Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...> wrote:

Nothing in PA

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of VA7GEM-1470 via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 6:57 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] monitoring 1807 (160m

 

Calling at +1500
Barry



Re: monitoring 1807 (160m

VA7GEM-1470 <boat.anchor@...>
 

Another hour till sunset
Barry


Re: monitoring 1807 (160m

Brian (N2MLP)
 

Nothing in PA

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of VA7GEM-1470 via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 6:57 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] monitoring 1807 (160m

 

Calling at +1500
Barry


Re: monitoring 1807 (160m

VA7GEM-1470 <boat.anchor@...>
 

Calling at +1500
Barry


monitoring 1807 (160m

Brian (N2MLP)
 

See if anything shows up

 

========================

         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

========================

 

 


Re: Hustler 6BTV

Brian (N2MLP)
 

So untrue  (CB wise tails)

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jerry N9AVY
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 6:37 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV

 

Okay, but early on in ham radio, I learned that "a vertical is an antenna that radiates equally poor in all directions" 

 

 

Jerry  n9avy

 


From: Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV

 

Have both the zero 5 and the GAP Titan

BOTH ARE GREAT ANTENNA

 

 

NEVER GOT THE Gap to tune correct on 15M

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Morris
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 5:19 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV

 

Never had the 6BTV but was going to get the Gap Titan (I think it was the Titan) but eventually decided on the Zero Five since it does not have any traps to mess with or foul up on me.

 

I have the Zero Five 27’ vertical and my SWR is:

80        1.0

40        1.0

30        1.0

20        1.0

17        1.3

15        1.3

12        1.2

10        1.0

 

I have 40 radials and length of all is 27’ — It was sooooo easy to set up and once I got the hole dug took me a whopping 30 minutes to put together and install in the ground.  Then it took 2 days to do the radials. I have a radial plate and a tilt mast in case of heavy winds but have never had to lower it , YET!!!


Dan Morris  KZ3T  070-1065

 

I live to live for Him!

 

 

 

 

On Jan 31, 2018, at 5:02 PM, Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@...> wrote:

 

Well Dick, I'm certainly jealous behind all that antenna farm!  Oh how I wish!

One thought - when you move the traps are you going for lowest SWR or X=0 (or as low as you can get it)?  I read somewhere that you should get rid of reactance (X)  to get resonance and let the SWR fall where it may.  Not sure what that means, but the X component is what I tried to get rid of and the SWR fell in line.  Don't know that that is right, but that is what I did.

I do notice from your readings that the lower bands have a fair amount of reactance (X value).  Reactance can be either capacitive or inductive.  There is a trick (I can't remember) that you can do with the MFJ 259b to determine which the X is.  Something about tuning up or down and watching which way the X goes.  Once you know, then you can figure out how to get rid of it.  At that point it would be back to the ARRL Antenna book for me!

Maybe someone else can jump in here and give us both some insight.

Rick

 


--
Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602

 

 


Re: Hustler 6BTV

Jerry N9AVY
 

Okay, but early on in ham radio, I learned that "a vertical is an antenna that radiates equally poor in all directions" 


Jerry  n9avy



From: Brian (N2MLP) <n2mlp@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV

Have both the zero 5 and the GAP Titan
BOTH ARE GREAT ANTENNA
 
 
NEVER GOT THE Gap to tune correct on 15M
 
From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Morris
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 5:19 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV
 
Never had the 6BTV but was going to get the Gap Titan (I think it was the Titan) but eventually decided on the Zero Five since it does not have any traps to mess with or foul up on me.
 
I have the Zero Five 27’ vertical and my SWR is:
80        1.0
40        1.0
30        1.0
20        1.0
17        1.3
15        1.3
12        1.2
10        1.0
 
I have 40 radials and length of all is 27’ — It was sooooo easy to set up and once I got the hole dug took me a whopping 30 minutes to put together and install in the ground.  Then it took 2 days to do the radials. I have a radial plate and a tilt mast in case of heavy winds but have never had to lower it , YET!!!

Dan Morris  KZ3T  070-1065
 
I live to live for Him!
 
 
 
 
On Jan 31, 2018, at 5:02 PM, Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@...> wrote:
 
Well Dick, I'm certainly jealous behind all that antenna farm!  Oh how I wish!
One thought - when you move the traps are you going for lowest SWR or X=0 (or as low as you can get it)?  I read somewhere that you should get rid of reactance (X)  to get resonance and let the SWR fall where it may.  Not sure what that means, but the X component is what I tried to get rid of and the SWR fell in line.  Don't know that that is right, but that is what I did.
I do notice from your readings that the lower bands have a fair amount of reactance (X value).  Reactance can be either capacitive or inductive.  There is a trick (I can't remember) that you can do with the MFJ 259b to determine which the X is.  Something about tuning up or down and watching which way the X goes.  Once you know, then you can figure out how to get rid of it.  At that point it would be back to the ARRL Antenna book for me!
Maybe someone else can jump in here and give us both some insight.
Rick
 

--
Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602
 



Re: Hustler 6BTV

Brian (N2MLP)
 

Have both the zero 5 and the GAP Titan

BOTH ARE GREAT ANTENNA

 

 

NEVER GOT THE Gap to tune correct on 15M

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Morris
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 5:19 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV

 

Never had the 6BTV but was going to get the Gap Titan (I think it was the Titan) but eventually decided on the Zero Five since it does not have any traps to mess with or foul up on me.

 

I have the Zero Five 27’ vertical and my SWR is:

80        1.0

40        1.0

30        1.0

20        1.0

17        1.3

15        1.3

12        1.2

10        1.0

 

I have 40 radials and length of all is 27’ — It was sooooo easy to set up and once I got the hole dug took me a whopping 30 minutes to put together and install in the ground.  Then it took 2 days to do the radials. I have a radial plate and a tilt mast in case of heavy winds but have never had to lower it , YET!!!


Dan Morris  KZ3T  070-1065

 

I live to live for Him!

 

 

 

 

On Jan 31, 2018, at 5:02 PM, Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@...> wrote:

 

Well Dick, I'm certainly jealous behind all that antenna farm!  Oh how I wish!

One thought - when you move the traps are you going for lowest SWR or X=0 (or as low as you can get it)?  I read somewhere that you should get rid of reactance (X)  to get resonance and let the SWR fall where it may.  Not sure what that means, but the X component is what I tried to get rid of and the SWR fell in line.  Don't know that that is right, but that is what I did.

I do notice from your readings that the lower bands have a fair amount of reactance (X value).  Reactance can be either capacitive or inductive.  There is a trick (I can't remember) that you can do with the MFJ 259b to determine which the X is.  Something about tuning up or down and watching which way the X goes.  Once you know, then you can figure out how to get rid of it.  At that point it would be back to the ARRL Antenna book for me!

Maybe someone else can jump in here and give us both some insight.

Rick

 


--
Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602

 


Now 160M was Hustler 6BTV

VA7GEM-1470 <boat.anchor@...>
 

Looks like East/Central are covered.
I will be on starting 00:01Z
1.807 is freq of choice??
Barry


Re: Hustler 6BTV

David, K9DWR
 

On Jan 31, 2018, at 09:47, Jerry N9AVY <n9avy@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

We all need to keep in mind that we all face different challenges in getting antennas installed; everything from hurricane resistance to stupid HOAs. Different areas of the U.S. have different propagation patterns than those on East Coast who can usually work Europe consistently while the West coast gets decent openings to Asia. It's a different game for many of us, but being smart, resourceful operators we face the challenges and make things work to our advantage as best as possible. That's what ham radio is about.
The main thing I live by is: "Enjoy the contacts you can make, rather than lament the ones you can’t.”

My setup is modest, but especially working digital I have been very successful making contacts. I may not be able to hit every existing station, but I know I have not hit all stations I’m capable of reaching yet, either. :-)



David, K9DWR
#1604 LONP #255
david@graniteweb.com

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