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Brian (N2MLP)
 

KX4WB spotted on 160 meters

 

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         de N2MLP Brian

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Re: Hustler 6BTV

Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@...>
 

I’m doing it wrong. I started with a beam and a full gallon and now I’m using wire antennas and 20 watts

Mike
WM4B

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of K8TOM
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 5:32 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV

I mounted a 6BTV with the DXEngineering tilt-over base on top of my taller tin-roofed barn back in 2007 (about 45ft height). After some testing I decided that the tin roof had good enough connections between the "tin" sheets to provide a decent ground plane.

I guess it worked okay, since I got my DXCC with that antenna, before I had a beam.

Tom
K8TOM
815




On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 1:53 PM, Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@cox.net> wrote:
Nice! I guess I’m qualified… I’m always in the hole some way or another!

Well, I just broke ground. Had to find the exact site that was not visible from mama’s chair in the sunroom. I think I found the right spot – and if not I’ll have to ask for forgiveness (again). I might have to remove a tree branch at the far end so I can tilt the antenna over, but that won’t be a problem if necessary.

We had over an inch of rain Sunday, so I figured I’d better strike when the iron was soft. Got down about 2 feet and about a foot in diameter. Need to go a foot deeper and 6” bigger around, but at least I haven’t hit Kaolin yet. I'm going to set two 4 x 4's three feet in the ground (in concrete) with the mast between them tilting at about the 4' 6" mark. The antenna is supposed to be 25' high, so figuring just a bit of mast above the 4 x 4's, my 30' clear-zone should be okay. (I hope!) Mama is taking my truck to Florida this weekend, so I'd better go get some concrete mix or I'll be hauling it in the back of my son's Ford Focus.

Mike
WM4B



From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick - N7WE
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 4:13 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV

Golly Mike, I'd really like to help out, but.......I'm not certified to excavate!
I once ran into a guy who was a registered professional excavation engineer. No kidding! He designed and certified excavation plans for large constructions like high rise buildings, TV towers, etc. He was a character. Would tell people he "started out small and just keep getting in deeper and deeper. Planned to retire if he ever got out of the hole he was in!"
Rick - N7WE

On 1/30/2018 16:01, Mike Besemer wrote:
Rick,

If you're really looking for something to do, I need a hole dug to plant my Gap Titan DX.

Mike
WM4B
On Jan 30, 2018 3:50 PM, Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@gmail.com> wrote:
That's what I did. Started on 10, then 15, readjust 10 and 15 until have both. This did require moving the traps from the factory positioning on the tubes, not just changing the overall spacing. Then adjusted 20 and readjusted 10, 15, and 20 until I had all three....and so on thru 80. Then went back and did 12 (adjusts with HotRodz) with only minimal change on 10 (no adjustment needed) and the same with 17. It took a while, lots of ups and downs, but wasn't too bad as I had installed the DXEngineering tilt-base when I put it up. When we were traveling summers, I took the antenna down and stored it in three pieces. Reinstalling in the fall only required minor tweaking. What I have noticed is that with the change in temps here in Florida from winter to summer, there is sufficient expansion of the aluminum tubing to change the tuning. Now that we are home summers, I re-tune when it heats up and then again when it cools off! Probably a waste, but I like to have things as close as I can. And it gives me something to do!
Rick - N7WE

On 1/30/2018 15:21, Jerry N9AVY wrote:
Rick:

Did you start tuning 0n 10m and work your way up to 80/160m ? Just curious.

My dual sloper isn't working yet.
Jerry
________________________________________
From: Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@gmail.com>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV

Dick-
I have the Hustler ground mounted over 40 radials of differing length - due to the lot. The shortest is about 15 feet and the longest about 28 feet. The Hustler has DXEngineering 12m and 17m add-ons, and I can tune without cutting any tubes. Here's the readings from the MFJ259B
SWR R X
3.580 1.0 50 3
7.035 1.1 38 0
7.070 1.2 36 0
10.140 1.1 54 8
14.070 1.1 42 0
18.100 1.0 52 3
21.070 1.1 46 6
24.920 1.1 72 0
28.120 1.0 64 0
I follow the DXEngineering guide - Chapter 7 - for tuning instead of the Hustler's instructions. If you don't have it, you can download it HERE in PDF format. Good luck and I hope that helps. Let me know!
Rick - N7WE
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Re: Hustler 6BTV

Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@...>
 

As long as it stays the same size, I’ll be happy!

Mike
WM4B

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jerry N9AVY
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 5:17 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV

It won't grow.

Jerry n9avy

________________________________________
From: Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@cox.net>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV

Rick,

If you're really looking for something to do, I need a hole dug to plant my Gap Titan DX.

Mike
WM4B
On Jan 30, 2018 3:50 PM, Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@gmail.com> wrote:
That's what I did. Started on 10, then 15, readjust 10 and 15 until have both. This did require moving the traps from the factory positioning on the tubes, not just changing the overall spacing. Then adjusted 20 and readjusted 10, 15, and 20 until I had all three....and so on thru 80. Then went back and did 12 (adjusts with HotRodz) with only minimal change on 10 (no adjustment needed) and the same with 17. It took a while, lots of ups and downs, but wasn't too bad as I had installed the DXEngineering tilt-base when I put it up. When we were traveling summers, I took the antenna down and stored it in three pieces. Reinstalling in the fall only required minor tweaking. What I have noticed is that with the change in temps here in Florida from winter to summer, there is sufficient expansion of the aluminum tubing to change the tuning. Now that we are home summers, I re-tune when it heats up and then again when it cools off! Probably a waste, but I like to have things as close as I can. And it gives me something to do!
Rick - N7WE

On 1/30/2018 15:21, Jerry N9AVY wrote:
Rick:

Did you start tuning 0n 10m and work your way up to 80/160m ? Just curious.

My dual sloper isn't working yet.
Jerry
________________________________________
From: Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@gmail.com>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV

Dick-
I have the Hustler ground mounted over 40 radials of differing length - due to the lot. The shortest is about 15 feet and the longest about 28 feet. The Hustler has DXEngineering 12m and 17m add-ons, and I can tune without cutting any tubes. Here's the readings from the MFJ259B
SWR R X
3.580 1.0 50 3
7.035 1.1 38 0
7.070 1.2 36 0
10.140 1.1 54 8
14.070 1.1 42 0
18.100 1.0 52 3
21.070 1.1 46 6
24.920 1.1 72 0
28.120 1.0 64 0
I follow the DXEngineering guide - Chapter 7 - for tuning instead of the Hustler's instructions. If you don't have it, you can download it HERE in PDF format. Good luck and I hope that helps. Let me know!
Rick - N7WE
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Re: Hustler 6BTV

K8TOM
 

I mounted a 6BTV with the DXEngineering tilt-over base on top of my taller tin-roofed barn back in 2007 (about 45ft height).  After some testing I decided that the tin roof had good enough connections between the "tin" sheets to provide a decent ground plane.

I guess it worked okay, since I got my DXCC with that antenna, before I had a beam.

Tom
K8TOM
815



On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 1:53 PM, Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@...> wrote:
Nice!  I guess I’m qualified… I’m always in the hole some way or another!

Well, I just broke ground.  Had to find the exact site that was not visible from mama’s chair in the sunroom.  I think I found the right spot – and if not I’ll have to ask for forgiveness (again).  I might have to remove a tree branch at the far end so I can tilt the antenna over, but that won’t be a problem if necessary.

We had over an inch of rain Sunday, so I figured I’d better strike when the iron was soft.  Got down about 2 feet and about a foot in diameter.  Need to go a foot deeper and 6” bigger around, but at least I haven’t hit Kaolin yet.  I'm going to set two 4 x 4's three feet in the ground (in concrete) with the mast between them tilting at about the 4' 6" mark.  The antenna is supposed to be 25' high, so figuring just a bit of mast above the 4 x 4's, my 30' clear-zone should be okay.  (I hope!)  Mama is taking my truck to Florida this weekend, so I'd better go get some concrete mix or I'll be hauling it in the back of my son's Ford Focus.

Mike
WM4B



From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick - N7WE
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 4:13 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV

Golly Mike, I'd really like to help out, but.......I'm not certified to excavate!
I once ran into a guy who was a registered professional excavation engineer.  No kidding!  He designed and certified excavation plans for large constructions like high rise buildings, TV towers, etc.  He was a character.  Would tell people he "started out small and just keep getting in deeper and deeper.  Planned to retire if he ever got out of the hole he was in!"
Rick - N7WE

On 1/30/2018 16:01, Mike Besemer wrote:
Rick,

If you're really looking for something to do, I need a hole dug to plant my Gap Titan DX.

Mike
WM4B
On Jan 30, 2018 3:50 PM, Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@...> wrote:
That's what I did.  Started on 10, then 15, readjust 10 and 15 until have both. This did require moving the traps from the factory positioning on the tubes, not just changing the overall spacing.  Then adjusted 20 and readjusted 10, 15, and 20 until I had all three....and so on thru 80.  Then went back and did 12 (adjusts with HotRodz) with only minimal change on 10 (no adjustment needed) and the same with 17.  It took a while, lots of ups and downs, but wasn't too bad as I had installed the DXEngineering tilt-base when I put it up.  When we were traveling summers, I took the antenna down and stored it in three pieces.  Reinstalling in the fall only required minor tweaking.  What I have noticed is that with the change in temps here in Florida from winter to summer, there is sufficient expansion of the aluminum tubing to change the tuning.  Now that we are home summers, I re-tune when it heats up and then again when it cools off!  Probably a waste, but I like to have things as close as I can.  And it gives me something to do!
Rick - N7WE

On 1/30/2018 15:21, Jerry N9AVY wrote:
Rick:

Did you start tuning 0n 10m and work your way up to 80/160m ?   Just curious.

My dual sloper isn't working yet.
Jerry
________________________________________
From: Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV

Dick-
I have the Hustler ground mounted over 40 radials of differing length - due to the lot.  The shortest is about 15 feet and the longest about 28 feet.  The Hustler has DXEngineering 12m and 17m add-ons, and I can tune without cutting any tubes.  Here's the readings from the MFJ259B
                     SWR         R           X
3.580            1.0           50           3
7.035             1.1          38           0
7.070             1.2          36           0
10.140           1.1          54           8
14.070           1.1          42           0
18.100           1.0          52           3
21.070           1.1          46           6
24.920           1.1          72           0
28.120           1.0          64           0
I follow the DXEngineering guide - Chapter 7 - for tuning instead of the Hustler's instructions.  If you don't have it, you can download it HERE in PDF format.  Good luck and I hope that helps.   Let me know!
Rick - N7WE
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Re: Hustler 6BTV

Jerry N9AVY
 

It won't grow.

Jerry  n9avy



From: Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV

Rick,

If you're really looking for something to do, I need a hole dug to plant my Gap Titan DX.

Mike
WM4B
On Jan 30, 2018 3:50 PM, Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@...> wrote:
That's what I did.  Started on 10, then 15, readjust 10 and 15 until have both. This did require moving the traps from the factory positioning on the tubes, not just changing the overall spacing.  Then adjusted 20 and readjusted 10, 15, and 20 until I had all three....and so on thru 80.  Then went back and did 12 (adjusts with HotRodz) with only minimal change on 10 (no adjustment needed) and the same with 17.  It took a while, lots of ups and downs, but wasn't too bad as I had installed the DXEngineering tilt-base when I put it up.  When we were traveling summers, I took the antenna down and stored it in three pieces.  Reinstalling in the fall only required minor tweaking.  What I have noticed is that with the change in temps here in Florida from winter to summer, there is sufficient expansion of the aluminum tubing to change the tuning.  Now that we are home summers, I re-tune when it heats up and then again when it cools off!  Probably a waste, but I like to have things as close as I can.  And it gives me something to do!
Rick - N7WE

On 1/30/2018 15:21, Jerry N9AVY wrote:
Rick:

Did you start tuning 0n 10m and work your way up to 80/160m ?   Just curious.

My dual sloper isn't working yet.
Jerry


From: Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV

Dick-
I have the Hustler ground mounted over 40 radials of differing length - due to the lot.  The shortest is about 15 feet and the longest about 28 feet.  The Hustler has DXEngineering 12m and 17m add-ons, and I can tune without cutting any tubes.  Here's the readings from the MFJ259B
                     SWR         R           X
3.580            1.0           50           3
7.035             1.1          38           0
7.070             1.2          36           0
10.140           1.1          54           8
14.070           1.1          42           0
18.100           1.0          52           3
21.070           1.1          46           6
24.920           1.1          72           0
28.120           1.0          64           0
I follow the DXEngineering guide - Chapter 7 - for tuning instead of the Hustler's instructions.  If you don't have it, you can download it HERE in PDF format.  Good luck and I hope that helps.   Let me know!
Rick - N7WE
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Re: Hustler 6BTV

Jerry N9AVY
 

I've heard tell that anything lower than 2.1:1 is okay.  That was from all the old timers in the 70's.
Jerry  n9avy


From: Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV

That's what I did.  Started on 10, then 15, readjust 10 and 15 until have both. This did require moving the traps from the factory positioning on the tubes, not just changing the overall spacing.  Then adjusted 20 and readjusted 10, 15, and 20 until I had all three....and so on thru 80.  Then went back and did 12 (adjusts with HotRodz) with only minimal change on 10 (no adjustment needed) and the same with 17.  It took a while, lots of ups and downs, but wasn't too bad as I had installed the DXEngineering tilt-base when I put it up.  When we were traveling summers, I took the antenna down and stored it in three pieces.  Reinstalling in the fall only required minor tweaking.  What I have noticed is that with the change in temps here in Florida from winter to summer, there is sufficient expansion of the aluminum tubing to change the tuning.  Now that we are home summers, I re-tune when it heats up and then again when it cools off!  Probably a waste, but I like to have things as close as I can.  And it gives me something to do!
Rick - N7WE

On 1/30/2018 15:21, Jerry N9AVY wrote:
Rick:

Did you start tuning 0n 10m and work your way up to 80/160m ?   Just curious.

My dual sloper isn't working yet.
Jerry


From: Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV

Dick-
I have the Hustler ground mounted over 40 radials of differing length - due to the lot.  The shortest is about 15 feet and the longest about 28 feet.  The Hustler has DXEngineering 12m and 17m add-ons, and I can tune without cutting any tubes.  Here's the readings from the MFJ259B
                     SWR         R           X
3.580            1.0           50           3
7.035             1.1          38           0
7.070             1.2          36           0
10.140           1.1          54           8
14.070           1.1          42           0
18.100           1.0          52           3
21.070           1.1          46           6
24.920           1.1          72           0
28.120           1.0          64           0
I follow the DXEngineering guide - Chapter 7 - for tuning instead of the Hustler's instructions.  If you don't have it, you can download it HERE in PDF format.  Good luck and I hope that helps.   Let me know!
Rick - N7WE
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Re: Hustler 6BTV

Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@...>
 

Nice! I guess I’m qualified… I’m always in the hole some way or another!

Well, I just broke ground. Had to find the exact site that was not visible from mama’s chair in the sunroom. I think I found the right spot – and if not I’ll have to ask for forgiveness (again). I might have to remove a tree branch at the far end so I can tilt the antenna over, but that won’t be a problem if necessary.

We had over an inch of rain Sunday, so I figured I’d better strike when the iron was soft. Got down about 2 feet and about a foot in diameter. Need to go a foot deeper and 6” bigger around, but at least I haven’t hit Kaolin yet. I'm going to set two 4 x 4's three feet in the ground (in concrete) with the mast between them tilting at about the 4' 6" mark. The antenna is supposed to be 25' high, so figuring just a bit of mast above the 4 x 4's, my 30' clear-zone should be okay. (I hope!) Mama is taking my truck to Florida this weekend, so I'd better go get some concrete mix or I'll be hauling it in the back of my son's Ford Focus.

Mike
WM4B



From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick - N7WE
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 4:13 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV

Golly Mike, I'd really like to help out, but.......I'm not certified to excavate!
I once ran into a guy who was a registered professional excavation engineer. No kidding! He designed and certified excavation plans for large constructions like high rise buildings, TV towers, etc. He was a character. Would tell people he "started out small and just keep getting in deeper and deeper. Planned to retire if he ever got out of the hole he was in!"
Rick - N7WE

On 1/30/2018 16:01, Mike Besemer wrote:
Rick,

If you're really looking for something to do, I need a hole dug to plant my Gap Titan DX.

Mike
WM4B
On Jan 30, 2018 3:50 PM, Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@gmail.com> wrote:
That's what I did. Started on 10, then 15, readjust 10 and 15 until have both. This did require moving the traps from the factory positioning on the tubes, not just changing the overall spacing. Then adjusted 20 and readjusted 10, 15, and 20 until I had all three....and so on thru 80. Then went back and did 12 (adjusts with HotRodz) with only minimal change on 10 (no adjustment needed) and the same with 17. It took a while, lots of ups and downs, but wasn't too bad as I had installed the DXEngineering tilt-base when I put it up. When we were traveling summers, I took the antenna down and stored it in three pieces. Reinstalling in the fall only required minor tweaking. What I have noticed is that with the change in temps here in Florida from winter to summer, there is sufficient expansion of the aluminum tubing to change the tuning. Now that we are home summers, I re-tune when it heats up and then again when it cools off! Probably a waste, but I like to have things as close as I can. And it gives me something to do!
Rick - N7WE

On 1/30/2018 15:21, Jerry N9AVY wrote:
Rick:

Did you start tuning 0n 10m and work your way up to 80/160m ? Just curious.

My dual sloper isn't working yet.
Jerry
________________________________________
From: Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@gmail.com>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV

Dick-
I have the Hustler ground mounted over 40 radials of differing length - due to the lot. The shortest is about 15 feet and the longest about 28 feet. The Hustler has DXEngineering 12m and 17m add-ons, and I can tune without cutting any tubes. Here's the readings from the MFJ259B
SWR R X
3.580 1.0 50 3
7.035 1.1 38 0
7.070 1.2 36 0
10.140 1.1 54 8
14.070 1.1 42 0
18.100 1.0 52 3
21.070 1.1 46 6
24.920 1.1 72 0
28.120 1.0 64 0
I follow the DXEngineering guide - Chapter 7 - for tuning instead of the Hustler's instructions. If you don't have it, you can download it HERE in PDF format. Good luck and I hope that helps. Let me know!
Rick - N7WE
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Re: Hustler 6BTV

Rick - N7WE
 

Golly Mike, I'd really like to help out, but.......I'm not certified to excavate!

I once ran into a guy who was a registered professional excavation engineer.  No kidding!  He designed and certified excavation plans for large constructions like high rise buildings, TV towers, etc.  He was a character.  Would tell people he "started out small and just keep getting in deeper and deeper.  Planned to retire if he ever got out of the hole he was in!"

Rick - N7WE


On 1/30/2018 16:01, Mike Besemer wrote:
Rick,

If you're really looking for something to do, I need a hole dug to plant my Gap Titan DX.

Mike
WM4B
On Jan 30, 2018 3:50 PM, Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@...> wrote:

That's what I did.  Started on 10, then 15, readjust 10 and 15 until have both. This did require moving the traps from the factory positioning on the tubes, not just changing the overall spacing.  Then adjusted 20 and readjusted 10, 15, and 20 until I had all three....and so on thru 80.  Then went back and did 12 (adjusts with HotRodz) with only minimal change on 10 (no adjustment needed) and the same with 17.  It took a while, lots of ups and downs, but wasn't too bad as I had installed the DXEngineering tilt-base when I put it up.  When we were traveling summers, I took the antenna down and stored it in three pieces.  Reinstalling in the fall only required minor tweaking.  What I have noticed is that with the change in temps here in Florida from winter to summer, there is sufficient expansion of the aluminum tubing to change the tuning.  Now that we are home summers, I re-tune when it heats up and then again when it cools off!  Probably a waste, but I like to have things as close as I can.  And it gives me something to do!

Rick - N7WE


On 1/30/2018 15:21, Jerry N9AVY wrote:
Rick:

Did you start tuning 0n 10m and work your way up to 80/160m ?   Just curious.

My dual sloper isn't working yet.
Jerry


From: Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV

Dick-
I have the Hustler ground mounted over 40 radials of differing length - due to the lot.  The shortest is about 15 feet and the longest about 28 feet.  The Hustler has DXEngineering 12m and 17m add-ons, and I can tune without cutting any tubes.  Here's the readings from the MFJ259B
                     SWR         R           X
3.580            1.0           50           3
7.035             1.1          38           0
7.070             1.2          36           0
10.140           1.1          54           8
14.070           1.1          42           0
18.100           1.0          52           3
21.070           1.1          46           6
24.920           1.1          72           0
28.120           1.0          64           0
I follow the DXEngineering guide - Chapter 7 - for tuning instead of the Hustler's instructions.  If you don't have it, you can download it HERE in PDF format.  Good luck and I hope that helps.   Let me know!
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Re: Hustler 6BTV

Brian (N2MLP)
 

Gap Titan DX great antenna

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Besemer
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 4:01 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV

 

Rick,

 

If you're really looking for something to do, I need a hole dug to plant my Gap Titan DX.

 

Mike

WM4B

On Jan 30, 2018 3:50 PM, Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@...> wrote:

That's what I did.  Started on 10, then 15, readjust 10 and 15 until have both. This did require moving the traps from the factory positioning on the tubes, not just changing the overall spacing.  Then adjusted 20 and readjusted 10, 15, and 20 until I had all three....and so on thru 80.  Then went back and did 12 (adjusts with HotRodz) with only minimal change on 10 (no adjustment needed) and the same with 17.  It took a while, lots of ups and downs, but wasn't too bad as I had installed the DXEngineering tilt-base when I put it up.  When we were traveling summers, I took the antenna down and stored it in three pieces.  Reinstalling in the fall only required minor tweaking.  What I have noticed is that with the change in temps here in Florida from winter to summer, there is sufficient expansion of the aluminum tubing to change the tuning.  Now that we are home summers, I re-tune when it heats up and then again when it cools off!  Probably a waste, but I like to have things as close as I can.  And it gives me something to do!

Rick - N7WE

 

On 1/30/2018 15:21, Jerry N9AVY wrote:

Rick:

 

Did you start tuning 0n 10m and work your way up to 80/160m ?   Just curious.

 

My dual sloper isn't working yet.

Jerry


From: Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV

 

Dick-
I have the Hustler ground mounted over 40 radials of differing length - due to the lot.  The shortest is about 15 feet and the longest about 28 feet.  The Hustler has DXEngineering 12m and 17m add-ons, and I can tune without cutting any tubes.  Here's the readings from the MFJ259B
                     SWR         R           X
3.580            1.0           50           3
7.035             1.1          38           0
7.070             1.2          36           0
10.140           1.1          54           8
14.070           1.1          42           0
18.100           1.0          52           3
21.070           1.1          46           6
24.920           1.1          72           0
28.120           1.0          64           0
I follow the DXEngineering guide - Chapter 7 - for tuning instead of the Hustler's instructions.  If you don't have it, you can download it HERE in PDF format.  Good luck and I hope that helps.   Let me know!
Rick - N7WE
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Re: Hustler 6BTV

Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@...>
 

Rick,

If you're really looking for something to do, I need a hole dug to plant my Gap Titan DX.

Mike
WM4B

On Jan 30, 2018 3:50 PM, Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@...> wrote:

That's what I did.  Started on 10, then 15, readjust 10 and 15 until have both. This did require moving the traps from the factory positioning on the tubes, not just changing the overall spacing.  Then adjusted 20 and readjusted 10, 15, and 20 until I had all three....and so on thru 80.  Then went back and did 12 (adjusts with HotRodz) with only minimal change on 10 (no adjustment needed) and the same with 17.  It took a while, lots of ups and downs, but wasn't too bad as I had installed the DXEngineering tilt-base when I put it up.  When we were traveling summers, I took the antenna down and stored it in three pieces.  Reinstalling in the fall only required minor tweaking.  What I have noticed is that with the change in temps here in Florida from winter to summer, there is sufficient expansion of the aluminum tubing to change the tuning.  Now that we are home summers, I re-tune when it heats up and then again when it cools off!  Probably a waste, but I like to have things as close as I can.  And it gives me something to do!

Rick - N7WE


On 1/30/2018 15:21, Jerry N9AVY wrote:
Rick:

Did you start tuning 0n 10m and work your way up to 80/160m ?   Just curious.

My dual sloper isn't working yet.
Jerry


From: Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV

Dick-
I have the Hustler ground mounted over 40 radials of differing length - due to the lot.  The shortest is about 15 feet and the longest about 28 feet.  The Hustler has DXEngineering 12m and 17m add-ons, and I can tune without cutting any tubes.  Here's the readings from the MFJ259B
                     SWR         R           X
3.580            1.0           50           3
7.035             1.1          38           0
7.070             1.2          36           0
10.140           1.1          54           8
14.070           1.1          42           0
18.100           1.0          52           3
21.070           1.1          46           6
24.920           1.1          72           0
28.120           1.0          64           0
I follow the DXEngineering guide - Chapter 7 - for tuning instead of the Hustler's instructions.  If you don't have it, you can download it HERE in PDF format.  Good luck and I hope that helps.   Let me know!
Rick - N7WE
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Re: Hustler 6BTV

Rick - N7WE
 

That's what I did.  Started on 10, then 15, readjust 10 and 15 until have both. This did require moving the traps from the factory positioning on the tubes, not just changing the overall spacing.  Then adjusted 20 and readjusted 10, 15, and 20 until I had all three....and so on thru 80.  Then went back and did 12 (adjusts with HotRodz) with only minimal change on 10 (no adjustment needed) and the same with 17.  It took a while, lots of ups and downs, but wasn't too bad as I had installed the DXEngineering tilt-base when I put it up.  When we were traveling summers, I took the antenna down and stored it in three pieces.  Reinstalling in the fall only required minor tweaking.  What I have noticed is that with the change in temps here in Florida from winter to summer, there is sufficient expansion of the aluminum tubing to change the tuning.  Now that we are home summers, I re-tune when it heats up and then again when it cools off!  Probably a waste, but I like to have things as close as I can.  And it gives me something to do!

Rick - N7WE


On 1/30/2018 15:21, Jerry N9AVY wrote:
Rick:

Did you start tuning 0n 10m and work your way up to 80/160m ?   Just curious.

My dual sloper isn't working yet.
Jerry


From: Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV

Dick-
I have the Hustler ground mounted over 40 radials of differing length - due to the lot.  The shortest is about 15 feet and the longest about 28 feet.  The Hustler has DXEngineering 12m and 17m add-ons, and I can tune without cutting any tubes.  Here's the readings from the MFJ259B
                     SWR         R           X
3.580            1.0           50           3
7.035             1.1          38           0
7.070             1.2          36           0
10.140           1.1          54           8
14.070           1.1          42           0
18.100           1.0          52           3
21.070           1.1          46           6
24.920           1.1          72           0
28.120           1.0          64           0
I follow the DXEngineering guide - Chapter 7 - for tuning instead of the Hustler's instructions.  If you don't have it, you can download it HERE in PDF format.  Good luck and I hope that helps.   Let me know!
Rick - N7WE
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Re: Hustler 6BTV

Jerry N9AVY
 

Rick:

Did you start tuning 0n 10m and work your way up to 80/160m ?   Just curious.

My dual sloper isn't working yet.
Jerry


From: Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@...>
To: 070Club@groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: [070Club] Hustler 6BTV

Dick-
I have the Hustler ground mounted over 40 radials of differing length - due to the lot.  The shortest is about 15 feet and the longest about 28 feet.  The Hustler has DXEngineering 12m and 17m add-ons, and I can tune without cutting any tubes.  Here's the readings from the MFJ259B
                     SWR         R           X
3.580            1.0           50           3
7.035             1.1          38           0
7.070             1.2          36           0
10.140           1.1          54           8
14.070           1.1          42           0
18.100           1.0          52           3
21.070           1.1          46           6
24.920           1.1          72           0
28.120           1.0          64           0
I follow the DXEngineering guide - Chapter 7 - for tuning instead of the Hustler's instructions.  If you don't have it, you can download it HERE in PDF format.  Good luck and I hope that helps.   Let me know!
Rick - N7WE
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Re: Hustler 6BTV

Rick - N7WE
 

Dick-
I have the Hustler ground mounted over 40 radials of differing length - due to the lot.  The shortest is about 15 feet and the longest about 28 feet.  The Hustler has DXEngineering 12m and 17m add-ons, and I can tune without cutting any tubes.  Here's the readings from the MFJ259B
                     SWR         R           X
3.580            1.0           50           3
7.035             1.1          38           0
7.070             1.2          36           0
10.140           1.1          54           8
14.070           1.1          42           0
18.100           1.0          52           3
21.070           1.1          46           6
24.920           1.1          72           0
28.120           1.0          64           0
I follow the DXEngineering guide - Chapter 7 - for tuning instead of the Hustler's instructions.  If you don't have it, you can download it HERE in PDF format.  Good luck and I hope that helps.   Let me know!
Rick - N7WE
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Re: Another go at 160m tonight

Rick - N7WE
 

Sorry guys...I won't be on.  The 160m adaptation is down and I'm back to 80-10.  I live in an HOA restricted community and am thankful just to be allowed the vertical.  I try to get the temporary wires I put up in "violation" of the rules down before anyone sees them and gets upset.  Good luck to you all and I hope to have a few more nights on 160 before the season ends.  But I got to space them out!
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Re: Another go at 160m tonight

Paul Milward <nu4c@...>
 

OK guys. I'll be listening tonite. Hope I can make  a  contact. Iwas unable to operate last nite
Paul NU4C 



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From: Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@...>
Date: 1/30/18 14:03 (GMT-05:00)
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Another go at 160m tonight

I'll start looking between 0000 and 0100.

Mike
WM4B
On Jan 30, 2018 1:49 PM, Jim K5SP <jinnis@...> wrote:
I plan on being there. Hope you East guys can see me. Would like to see some of the Midwest guys on, it was quite lonely ladt night with only one contact, even though I saw and copied several of you.

JIM K5SP



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From: Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@...>
Date: 1/30/18 12:15 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Another go at 160m tonight

Anyone going to play tonight? I'd love to catch a few new calls tonight. I know there were a couple on last night I didn't get to work.

Mike
WM4B
On Jan 30, 2018 12:48 PM, Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@...> wrote:
Dick I saw you briefly but couldn't get you long enough to work you. Sorry, would have liked to pay you back for the grids on your trip! The website I used was https://k5acl.wordpress.com/2017/02/08/adding-160-meters-to-a-hustler-6btv/ I used the same basic approach with the wire running horizontally toward the peak of my roof. I started out with a wire length of 24 feet. I could only work off the auto tuner in the K3 for trimming as the MFJ259B chose not to work on 160m - to much local RF and I don't have their adjustable filter. And my Daiwa CN-801 just isn't accurate enough. I ended up at 19' 6" which got me to about a 3:1 on the antenna itself, and the K3 internal tuner brought it to 1.1:1. Lots of hoisting it up and letting it down. But last night made it worth the effort! Good luck if you have a go at it.

One other note: I did drop one of the 3/32 allen head setscrews in the grass when I was changing out the whip for the wire. Didn't even bother to look for it. Just made a hardware store run this morning for a replacement. Bought several hi hi!
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Re: Another go at 160m tonight

Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@...>
 

I'll start looking between 0000 and 0100.

Mike
WM4B

On Jan 30, 2018 1:49 PM, Jim K5SP <jinnis@...> wrote:
I plan on being there. Hope you East guys can see me. Would like to see some of the Midwest guys on, it was quite lonely ladt night with only one contact, even though I saw and copied several of you.

JIM K5SP



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-------- Original message --------
From: Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@...>
Date: 1/30/18 12:15 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Another go at 160m tonight

Anyone going to play tonight? I'd love to catch a few new calls tonight. I know there were a couple on last night I didn't get to work.

Mike
WM4B
On Jan 30, 2018 12:48 PM, Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@...> wrote:
Dick I saw you briefly but couldn't get you long enough to work you. Sorry, would have liked to pay you back for the grids on your trip! The website I used was https://k5acl.wordpress.com/2017/02/08/adding-160-meters-to-a-hustler-6btv/ I used the same basic approach with the wire running horizontally toward the peak of my roof. I started out with a wire length of 24 feet. I could only work off the auto tuner in the K3 for trimming as the MFJ259B chose not to work on 160m - to much local RF and I don't have their adjustable filter. And my Daiwa CN-801 just isn't accurate enough. I ended up at 19' 6" which got me to about a 3:1 on the antenna itself, and the K3 internal tuner brought it to 1.1:1. Lots of hoisting it up and letting it down. But last night made it worth the effort! Good luck if you have a go at it.

One other note: I did drop one of the 3/32 allen head setscrews in the grass when I was changing out the whip for the wire. Didn't even bother to look for it. Just made a hardware store run this morning for a replacement. Bought several hi hi!
--
Rick - N7WE
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Re: Another go at 160m tonight

Jim K5SP
 

I plan on being there. Hope you East guys can see me. Would like to see some of the Midwest guys on, it was quite lonely ladt night with only one contact, even though I saw and copied several of you.

JIM K5SP



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-------- Original message --------
From: Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@...>
Date: 1/30/18 12:15 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Another go at 160m tonight

Anyone going to play tonight?  I'd love to catch a few new calls tonight.  I know there were a couple on last night I didn't get to work.

Mike
WM4B
On Jan 30, 2018 12:48 PM, Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@...> wrote:
Dick I saw you briefly but couldn't get you long enough to work you. Sorry, would have liked to pay you back for the grids on your trip! The website I used was https://k5acl.wordpress.com/2017/02/08/adding-160-meters-to-a-hustler-6btv/ I used the same basic approach with the wire running horizontally toward the peak of my roof. I started out with a wire length of 24 feet. I could only work off the auto tuner in the K3 for trimming as the MFJ259B chose not to work on 160m - to much local RF and I don't have their adjustable filter. And my Daiwa CN-801 just isn't accurate enough. I ended up at 19' 6" which got me to about a 3:1 on the antenna itself, and the K3 internal tuner brought it to 1.1:1. Lots of hoisting it up and letting it down. But last night made it worth the effort! Good luck if you have a go at it.

One other note: I did drop one of the 3/32 allen head setscrews in the grass when I was changing out the whip for the wire. Didn't even bother to look for it. Just made a hardware store run this morning for a replacement. Bought several hi hi!
--
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Re: Another go at 160m tonight

Richard Rohrer
 

Rick, Thanks for the info.  Have you gotten your 6BTV to resonate on 30 and 40 mtrs.  I have 42 radials down and I find that the antenna has lowest SWR on 30 at 9.995 mHz and 40 around 7.000 mHz.  I have adjusted the trap for 30, but could not get it down very much.  I am thinking about shorting the tubing for 40 to move up the band a little.  My IC7410 tuner can get the SWR down, but I would like to have both bands resonate a little higher in frequency. 

 

73

Dick – KC3EF

 

 

From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick - N7WE
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 12:49 PM
To: 070Club@groups.io
Subject: Re: [070Club] Another go at 160m tonight

 

Dick I saw you briefly but couldn't get you long enough to work you.  Sorry, would have liked to pay you back for the grids on your trip!  The website I used was https://k5acl.wordpress.com/2017/02/08/adding-160-meters-to-a-hustler-6btv/  I used the same basic approach with the wire running horizontally toward the peak of my roof.  I started out with a wire length of 24 feet.  I could only work off the auto tuner in the K3 for trimming as the MFJ259B chose not to work on 160m - to much local RF and I don't have their adjustable filter.  And my Daiwa CN-801 just isn't accurate enough.    I ended up at 19' 6" which got me to about a 3:1 on the antenna itself, and the K3 internal tuner brought it to 1.1:1. Lots of hoisting it up and letting it down.  But last night made it worth the effort!  Good  luck if you have a go at it. 

One other note:  I did drop one of the 3/32 allen head setscrews in the grass when I was changing out the whip for the wire.  Didn't even bother to look for it.  Just made a hardware store run this morning for a replacement.  Bought several hi hi!
--
Rick - N7WE
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Re: Another go at 160m tonight

Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@...>
 

Anyone going to play tonight?  I'd love to catch a few new calls tonight.  I know there were a couple on last night I didn't get to work.

Mike
WM4B

On Jan 30, 2018 12:48 PM, Rick - N7WE <n7we1980@...> wrote:
Dick I saw you briefly but couldn't get you long enough to work you. Sorry, would have liked to pay you back for the grids on your trip! The website I used was https://k5acl.wordpress.com/2017/02/08/adding-160-meters-to-a-hustler-6btv/ I used the same basic approach with the wire running horizontally toward the peak of my roof. I started out with a wire length of 24 feet. I could only work off the auto tuner in the K3 for trimming as the MFJ259B chose not to work on 160m - to much local RF and I don't have their adjustable filter. And my Daiwa CN-801 just isn't accurate enough. I ended up at 19' 6" which got me to about a 3:1 on the antenna itself, and the K3 internal tuner brought it to 1.1:1. Lots of hoisting it up and letting it down. But last night made it worth the effort! Good luck if you have a go at it.

One other note: I did drop one of the 3/32 allen head setscrews in the grass when I was changing out the whip for the wire. Didn't even bother to look for it. Just made a hardware store run this morning for a replacement. Bought several hi hi!
--
Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602


Re: Another go at 160m tonight

Rick - N7WE
 

Dick I saw you briefly but couldn't get you long enough to work you.  Sorry, would have liked to pay you back for the grids on your trip!  The website I used was https://k5acl.wordpress.com/2017/02/08/adding-160-meters-to-a-hustler-6btv/  I used the same basic approach with the wire running horizontally toward the peak of my roof.  I started out with a wire length of 24 feet.  I could only work off the auto tuner in the K3 for trimming as the MFJ259B chose not to work on 160m - to much local RF and I don't have their adjustable filter.  And my Daiwa CN-801 just isn't accurate enough.    I ended up at 19' 6" which got me to about a 3:1 on the antenna itself, and the K3 internal tuner brought it to 1.1:1. Lots of hoisting it up and letting it down.  But last night made it worth the effort!  Good  luck if you have a go at it. 

One other note:  I did drop one of the 3/32 allen head setscrews in the grass when I was changing out the whip for the wire.  Didn't even bother to look for it.  Just made a hardware store run this morning for a replacement.  Bought several hi hi!
--
Rick - N7WE
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