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Re: Need a 'U' for my Spell All South American Countries Endorsement
Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@...>
Steve,
How does the rule work for calls like JY1 or VB7150. (Or does it not work?) I guess JY1(who I had the privilege of working several times) is moot, but VB7510 is pretty common these days! 73, Mike WM4B From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Stephen Melachrinos Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 8:03 PM To: 070Club@groups.io Subject: Re: [070Club] Need a 'U' for my Spell All South American Countries Endorsement There have been a number of 070 endorsements (and contests) based on "suffix", and they have always been defined and/or interpreted as the first letter after the last number in the callsign. In addition to BINGO and WOTMC (word of the month), there was MONA and HER CAT (2003, 070's first use of a suffix-based endorsement), WTW (ongoing), and the ERIN GO BRAGH bonus points in the St Patty's day contest. Yes, it probably could (and should) be more carefully worded in all of the various places where it's used, but I think the club's intent to be consistent is clear. Steve W3HF P.S. The "in general" in the rules is to allow for some strange cases. JY1 and VB7150 are examples where this rule fails. _._,_._,_
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Re: Need a 'U' for my Spell All South American Countries Endorsement
Stephen Melachrinos <melachri@...>
There have been a number of 070 endorsements (and contests) based on "suffix", and they have always been defined and/or interpreted as the first letter after the last number in the callsign. In addition to BINGO and WOTMC (word of the month), there was MONA and HER CAT (2003, 070's first use of a suffix-based endorsement), WTW (ongoing), and the ERIN GO BRAGH bonus points in the St Patty's day contest.
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Yes, it probably could (and should) be more carefully worded in all of the various places where it's used, but I think the club's intent to be consistent is clear.
Steve
W3HF
P.S. The "in general" in the rules is to allow for some strange cases. JY1 and VB7150 are examples where this rule fails.
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From: Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@...> To: 070Club <070Club@groups.io> Sent: Thu, Dec 28, 2017 7:37 pm Subject: Re: [070Club] Need a 'U' for my Spell All South American Countries Endorsement That is the way I’ve always seen it used. Mike WM4B From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jerry N9AVY Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 7:27 PM To: 070Club@groups.io Subject: Re: [070Club] Need a 'U' for my Spell All South American Countries Endorsement I've always Interpreted the suffix as the first letter after the numeral. Thus, N9AVY will only count as an "A" . Of course with a call like KZ3T there is only one choice of a suffix. :-) Maybe thus needs to be better defined in rules, but I guess there will always be those who look for shortcuts. (no offense) Jerry N9AVY ________________________________________ From: Dan Morris <dbmorris315@...> To: 070Club@groups.io Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 6:20 PM Subject: Re: [070Club] Need a 'U' for my Spell All South American Countries Endorsement Well, that sucks!!! When I see use the suffix of a call , that usually means any letter in the suffix but I do see where it states ‘In general’ — But the suffix means ‘The ending’ So, WA3RLJ the suffix is ‘RLJ’ — In other organizations I’m in the suffix is ‘any’ letter after the number!!! Wow!!! Dan Morris KZ3T 070-1065 dbmorris315@... I live to live for Him! On Dec 28, 2017, at 7:14 PM, Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@...> wrote: From the webpage: 2. Use the suffix of each station's callsign to collect letters to spell out the names of countries, states, provinces, or territories listed on the worksheets. In general the suffix letter is the first letter after the last number in a callsign (in the spirit of the Bingo and WOTMC endorsements). Mike WM4B From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Morris Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 7:02 PM To: 070Club@groups.io Subject: Re: [070Club] Need a 'U' for my Spell All South American Countries Endorsement I thought it could be any letter in the suffix??? Dan Morris KZ3T 070-1065 dbmorris315@... I live to live for Him! On Dec 28, 2017, at 10:52 AM, Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@...> wrote: Mike, I appreciate it, but the ‘U’ must immediately follow the number in your callsign. You’d be good for a ‘G’, but not a ‘U’. Either way, I’ll be looking for you! 73 es tnx, Mike WM4B From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Laney via Groups.Io Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 10:03 AM To: 070Club@groups.io Subject: Re: [070Club] Need a 'U' for my Spell All South American Countries Endorsement Hi Mike I will be on 20 and/or 40 tonight (12/28) about 6-8 PM CST if you still need a U de KE0GHU Mike Laney in Olathe KS On Tuesday, December 26, 2017, 7:00:01 PM CST, Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@...> wrote: Sitting here watching KS3o working WB2UBW... and of course 'UBW is non-existent on my waterfall. Just my luck! Mike WM4B On December 26, 2017 at 7:21 PM "Barry 1470 via Groups.Io" <boat.anchor=yahoo.ca@groups.io> wrote: Maybe a real mover - U haul Barry On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 01:58 pm, Mike Besemer wrote: “U’d” think so… Mike WM4B #348 From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jerry N9AVY Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2017 4:48 PM To: 070Club@groups.io Subject: Re: [070Club] Need a 'U' for my Spell All South American Countries Endorsement Surely, there must be a W4 out there with a "U"suffix as in "U'all" Jerry n9avy ________________________________________ From: Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@...> To: 070Club@groups.io Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2017 1:53 PM Subject: [070Club] Need a 'U' for my Spell All South American Countries Endorsement I need one 'U' callsign to complete my SASAC. In my log, I have AA9UF, CG9UN, K6UAS, KA8UNI, KC9UR, KJ6UF, N2UJN, W6U. I'm off work until 2 January and I'd love to finish this one up. Any 'U's who are reading this and can work a sked, please let me know. 20 and 40 meters are best for me, but I can do 10 - 160. 73, Mike WM4B #348
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Re: Need a 'U' for my Spell All South American Countries Endorsement
Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@...>
That is the way I’ve always seen it used.
Mike WM4B From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jerry N9AVY Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 7:27 PM To: 070Club@groups.io Subject: Re: [070Club] Need a 'U' for my Spell All South American Countries Endorsement I've always Interpreted the suffix as the first letter after the numeral. Thus, N9AVY will only count as an "A" . Of course with a call like KZ3T there is only one choice of a suffix. :-) Maybe thus needs to be better defined in rules, but I guess there will always be those who look for shortcuts. (no offense) Jerry N9AVY ________________________________________ From: Dan Morris <dbmorris315@...> To: 070Club@groups.io Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 6:20 PM Subject: Re: [070Club] Need a 'U' for my Spell All South American Countries Endorsement Well, that sucks!!! When I see use the suffix of a call , that usually means any letter in the suffix but I do see where it states ‘In general’ — But the suffix means ‘The ending’ So, WA3RLJ the suffix is ‘RLJ’ — In other organizations I’m in the suffix is ‘any’ letter after the number!!! Wow!!! Dan Morris KZ3T 070-1065 dbmorris315@... I live to live for Him! On Dec 28, 2017, at 7:14 PM, Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@...> wrote: From the webpage: 2. Use the suffix of each station's callsign to collect letters to spell out the names of countries, states, provinces, or territories listed on the worksheets. In general the suffix letter is the first letter after the last number in a callsign (in the spirit of the Bingo and WOTMC endorsements). Mike WM4B From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Morris Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 7:02 PM To: 070Club@groups.io Subject: Re: [070Club] Need a 'U' for my Spell All South American Countries Endorsement I thought it could be any letter in the suffix??? Dan Morris KZ3T 070-1065 dbmorris315@... I live to live for Him! On Dec 28, 2017, at 10:52 AM, Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@...> wrote: Mike, I appreciate it, but the ‘U’ must immediately follow the number in your callsign. You’d be good for a ‘G’, but not a ‘U’. Either way, I’ll be looking for you! 73 es tnx, Mike WM4B From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Laney via Groups.Io Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 10:03 AM To: 070Club@groups.io Subject: Re: [070Club] Need a 'U' for my Spell All South American Countries Endorsement Hi Mike I will be on 20 and/or 40 tonight (12/28) about 6-8 PM CST if you still need a U de KE0GHU Mike Laney in Olathe KS On Tuesday, December 26, 2017, 7:00:01 PM CST, Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@...> wrote: Sitting here watching KS3o working WB2UBW... and of course 'UBW is non-existent on my waterfall. Just my luck! Mike WM4B On December 26, 2017 at 7:21 PM "Barry 1470 via Groups.Io" <boat.anchor@...> wrote: Maybe a real mover - U haul Barry On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 01:58 pm, Mike Besemer wrote: “U’d” think so… Mike WM4B #348 From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jerry N9AVY Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2017 4:48 PM To: 070Club@groups.io Subject: Re: [070Club] Need a 'U' for my Spell All South American Countries Endorsement Surely, there must be a W4 out there with a "U"suffix as in "U'all" Jerry n9avy ________________________________________ From: Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@...> To: 070Club@groups.io Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2017 1:53 PM Subject: [070Club] Need a 'U' for my Spell All South American Countries Endorsement I need one 'U' callsign to complete my SASAC. In my log, I have AA9UF, CG9UN, K6UAS, KA8UNI, KC9UR, KJ6UF, N2UJN, W6U. I'm off work until 2 January and I'd love to finish this one up. Any 'U's who are reading this and can work a sked, please let me know. 20 and 40 meters are best for me, but I can do 10 - 160. 73, Mike WM4B #348
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Re: Need a 'U' for my Spell All South American Countries Endorsement
Not trying to look for any shortcuts. Just trying to be a little logical .
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The meaning of ‘suffix’ is: a letter or a group of letters added to the end of a word, etc. or append, especially as a suffix — that definition tells me it is all the letters after the number in a call sign. When someone on the air asks you for your suffix, do you just give them the ‘A’ or do you give them ‘AVY’ - With my old call I can remember and I have still seen people ask for the suffix of their call and they give them all the letters following the number.
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Re: Need a 'U' for my Spell All South American Countries Endorsement
I've always Interpreted the suffix as the first letter after the numeral. Thus, N9AVY will only count as an "A" . Of course with a call like KZ3T there is only one choice of a suffix. :-) Maybe thus needs to be better defined in rules, but I guess there will always be those who look for shortcuts. (no offense) Jerry N9AVY
From: Dan Morris <dbmorris315@...> To: 070Club@groups.io Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 6:20 PM Subject: Re: [070Club] Need a 'U' for my Spell All South American Countries Endorsement Well, that sucks!!! When I see use the suffix of a call , that usually means any letter in the suffix but I do see where it states ‘In general’ — But the suffix means ‘The ending’ So, WA3RLJ the suffix is ‘RLJ’ — In other organizations I’m in the suffix is ‘any’ letter after the number!!! Wow!!!
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Re: DM85 & DM74
Bill-N7RI
Watched Dick work Barry & Rick in DM75 then the band went AWOL here in WY. Please keep us posted on your other grids. 73 Bill KC8WSM 070-1190
On Dec 28, 2017 5:16 PM, "Mike Besemer" <mwbesemer@...> wrote: Saw you just as I was walking in to an appointment; just my luck!
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Re: Need a 'U' for my Spell All South American Countries Endorsement
Well, that sucks!!! When I see use the suffix of a call , that usually means any letter in the suffix but I do see where it states ‘In general’ — But the suffix means ‘The ending’ So, WA3RLJ the suffix is ‘RLJ’ —
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In other organizations I’m in the suffix is ‘any’ letter after the number!!!
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Re: DM85 & DM74
Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@...>
Saw you just as I was walking in to an appointment; just my luck!
73, Mike WM4B From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Richard Rohrer Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 7:09 PM To: 070Club@groups.io Subject: Re: [070Club] DM85 & DM74 Today's summary of Grid activity. Started in DM85 and worked a couple of stations, but no one looking for grids. Did not see many traces on at all. BSeem to be having trouble will low power output. Stopped at the NM welcome station and tightened all of the connectors in the feed line and that seemed to take care of the problem. Also propagation seemed to be more to the West from my location in TX/NM than to the East. Worked Barry, VB7150 when at DM75 and then at DM74. Worked Rick, N7WE at DM75 and just missed him in DM74. This was an interesting grid, as I40 just skims the top of it for about 20-30 miles. Stopped for a few minutes at a rest stop to try and get some additional contacts, but not much action. Several stations answered my CQ, but then did not come back for QSO. Propagation seemed to be varying. It did seem to start favoring East/West direction. Worked stations in WV, FL, GA, AZ, BC, CA, OR, & WA so not to bad for 50 watts to a hamstick mounted on the side of the mini-van. The xyl did the driving and suggested stopping at the rest area in DM74 to try to give more opportunity for contacts. Again the major problem was trying to type on bumpy roads, the keyboard on my Asus laptop seems to be somewhat sensitive. Heading for a couple of days in Las Vegas (looking for real wildlife, not the kind on the strip) and then on to San Jose for a week. Will be back on the road to Southren CA around Salton Sea and then on to TX coast. 73 Dick KC3EF
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Re: Need a 'U' for my Spell All South American Countries Endorsement
Nope.
From: Dan Morris <dbmorris315@...> To: 070Club@groups.io Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 6:02 PM Subject: Re: [070Club] Need a 'U' for my Spell All South American Countries Endorsement I thought it could be any letter in the suffix???
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Re: Need a 'U' for my Spell All South American Countries Endorsement
Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@...>
From the webpage:
2. Use the suffix of each station's callsign to collect letters to spell out the names of countries, states, provinces, or territories listed on the worksheets. In general the suffix letter is the first letter after the last number in a callsign (in the spirit of the Bingo and WOTMC endorsements). Mike WM4B From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Morris Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 7:02 PM To: 070Club@groups.io Subject: Re: [070Club] Need a 'U' for my Spell All South American Countries Endorsement I thought it could be any letter in the suffix??? Dan Morris KZ3T 070-1065 dbmorris315@... I live to live for Him! On Dec 28, 2017, at 10:52 AM, Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@...> wrote: Mike, I appreciate it, but the ‘U’ must immediately follow the number in your callsign. You’d be good for a ‘G’, but not a ‘U’. Either way, I’ll be looking for you! 73 es tnx, Mike WM4B From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Laney via Groups.Io Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 10:03 AM To: 070Club@groups.io Subject: Re: [070Club] Need a 'U' for my Spell All South American Countries Endorsement Hi Mike I will be on 20 and/or 40 tonight (12/28) about 6-8 PM CST if you still need a U de KE0GHU Mike Laney in Olathe KS On Tuesday, December 26, 2017, 7:00:01 PM CST, Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@...> wrote: Sitting here watching KS3o working WB2UBW... and of course 'UBW is non-existent on my waterfall. Just my luck! Mike WM4B On December 26, 2017 at 7:21 PM "Barry 1470 via Groups.Io" <boat.anchor@...> wrote: Maybe a real mover - U haul Barry On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 01:58 pm, Mike Besemer wrote: “U’d” think so… Mike WM4B #348 From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Jerry N9AVY Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2017 4:48 PM To: 070Club@groups.io Subject: Re: [070Club] Need a 'U' for my Spell All South American Countries Endorsement Surely, there must be a W4 out there with a "U"suffix as in "U'all" Jerry n9avy ________________________________________ From: Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@...> To: 070Club@groups.io Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2017 1:53 PM Subject: [070Club] Need a 'U' for my Spell All South American Countries Endorsement I need one 'U' callsign to complete my SASAC. In my log, I have AA9UF, CG9UN, K6UAS, KA8UNI, KC9UR, KJ6UF, N2UJN, W6U. I'm off work until 2 January and I'd love to finish this one up. Any 'U's who are reading this and can work a sked, please let me know. 20 and 40 meters are best for me, but I can do 10 - 160. 73, Mike WM4B #348
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Re: DM85 & DM74
Richard Rohrer
Today's summary of Grid activity.
Started in DM85 and worked a couple of stations, but no one looking for grids. Did not see many traces on at all. BSeem to be having trouble will low power output. Stopped at the NM welcome station and tightened all of the connectors in the feed line and that seemed to take care of the problem. Also propagation seemed to be more to the West from my location in TX/NM than to the East. Worked Barry, VB7150 when at DM75 and then at DM74. Worked Rick, N7WE at DM75 and just missed him in DM74. This was an interesting grid, as I40 just skims the top of it for about 20-30 miles. Stopped for a few minutes at a rest stop to try and get some additional contacts, but not much action. Several stations answered my CQ, but then did not come back for QSO. Propagation seemed to be varying. It did seem to start favoring East/West direction. Worked stations in WV, FL, GA, AZ, BC, CA, OR, & WA so not to bad for 50 watts to a hamstick mounted on the side of the mini-van. The xyl did the driving and suggested stopping at the rest area in DM74 to try to give more opportunity for contacts. Again the major problem was trying to type on bumpy roads, the keyboard on my Asus laptop seems to be somewhat sensitive. Heading for a couple of days in Las Vegas (looking for real wildlife, not the kind on the strip) and then on to San Jose for a week. Will be back on the road to Southren CA around Salton Sea and then on to TX coast. 73 Dick KC3EF
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Re: Need a 'U' for my Spell All South American Countries Endorsement
I thought it could be any letter in the suffix???
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Re: DM85 & DM74
Richard Rohrer
Hi Rick,
Yes, you just missed me in DM74 had just gone back to DM75 when you called. I did not think my signal was wide, since no one else reported it.
Look for you on the next grid.
73 Dick KC3EF
From: 070Club@groups.io [mailto:070Club@groups.io] On Behalf Of Rick - N7WE
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 2:33 PM To: 070Club@groups.io Subject: Re: [070Club] DM85 & DM74
Dick -
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Re: DM85 & DM74
Dick -
Sorry I missed you in DM74...maybe next time. Don't know if you copied me or not, BUT...your signal was fine here in FL. Forget his "splatter" report. He should turn down his RF gain - hi hi. Rick - N7WE 070 - #1602
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Re: DM85 & DM74
Barry 1470 <boat.anchor@...>
Dick is in DM74 Rt66 Westbound at 1900Z
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Re: DM85 & DM74
Barry 1470 <boat.anchor@...>
Dick is now in DM74 for a brief stop
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Re: DM85 & DM74
Just worked Dick DM75 at about 14.071.500. 599 into central FL. Go get him!
Rick - N7WE 070 - #1602
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Re: DM85 & DM74
Barry 1470 <boat.anchor@...>
Darn
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Slept in too late for DM85 Next time Dick HNY Barry
On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 05:55 am, Richard Rohrer wrote:
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Re: DM85 & DM74
Dick -
Watched you work KI7GXV from 16:40 UTC to 16:54 UTC both sides 599 here. Then you SK and I started calling but you, disappeared from the waterfall. Maybe later. Rick - N7WE 070 - #1602
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Re: Christmas Puppy
Here is our eighth guide dog puppy, "Kernow". Delivered 21st of December. He will stay with us as a member of the family for about 12 months.
Chris G7OGX
From: 070Club@groups.io <070Club@groups.io> on behalf of Paula K7PAX #1739 <hamette@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2017 4:40:30 PM To: 070Club@groups.io Subject: Re: [070Club] Christmas Puppy Groodle huh? Very cute!
Paula K7PAX
Just so a link doesn't have to be clicked...
On Thu, Dec 28, 2017 at 9:30 AM, W7RIV <nnegrom@...> wrote:
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