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Re: From an old PODXS member ...

Jerry N9AVY
 

Reminds me of the old 10-10 QSO Parties where people would stop in the middle of things to ragchew.  Who cares if we won, we had fun !

jerry  n9avy



From: "Tom Singleton tsingle@... [070]" <070@...>
To: "070@..." <070@...>
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: [070] From an old PODXS member ...

 
I generally try to work a bit outside the macros, especially if it is a fellow 070 club member.  But yes the general rule is that you are courteous of the other ham's time and respond according.

Heck, I may even sometimes slip in a short comment in an 070 contest exchange with a fellow member! 

73,

Tom
K8TOM
815

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On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Matthew King mrk.twg@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
 
I had a contact yesterday where I went outside my macros with just simple comment on the other op's rig working well.  Lo and behold, he replied in kind. Long story short - we chatted for over an hour! One of the nicest QSOs I've ever had.

Definitely can't do that with FT8! :-)  That mode has a place, sure, but I still prefer PSK-31 as you CAN go conversational if you like. I do that about 50% of the time. Rarely does it turn into a lengthy chat, but I frequently learn interesting tidbits about the other op.  It's also how we've gotten many new members to the 070 club!

73, y'all!

Matt King
AK4MK - 070 #1708
PODXS 070 Club Executive Director



On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 3:41 PM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
 
Rare DX is just that and pity the poor DX station who has to contend with a million or so hams who NEED that contacts and are not very mannerly in getting that contact.  The DX station doesn't have to deal with the "Kilocycle Kops" on his transmitting frequency yelling  "up, up , up" while the tuner-uppers are doing their thing... lots of malicious interference to deal with. Whether it be SSB or CW, the crap is still there and has only become worse.  In my early ham radio career I've heard many a DX station pull the plug on pileups. Used to be that American hams were the obnoxious ones, but now every other country has learned  to be obnoxious as well.

As a manager for a DX station, I was instructed by him to watch logs (paper ones !) for notes in margins saying that stations would not get QSL in any case because they were LIDs and did NOT follow instructions/procedures. ! Wish I still had those logs, but they went back to operator in the 80's.

This is just another reason that people chasing QSLs don't get them. Plus the stations send the poor DX operator 6 different ways to QSL  ...  bureau, LoTW, Eqsl, direct, Qrz.com ,   Hrd log,  and so on.   TMI !!!   Just say "QSL" and be done with it, the DX will send card whatever way works for him.

Jerry n9avy
BTW,  I use macros a lot , but I can and do edit them on the fly. Hate to send same boring stuff every time. A macro is used to get basic info across in case propagation changes, but after that...


From: "Martin Tuip ajax@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [070] From an old PODXS member ...

 
Is it any different than using a computer to log thousands of CW contacts in a contest or the quick 5NN 73 with a rare DX Inna pile up?



Martin



On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 10:44 AM -0800, "Jerry n9avy@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:

 
It was an interesting comment I found on FB and just thought I'd pass it along FWIW.   Just had a QSO on 2m this morning with a good friend and the subject of FT-8 came up.  He's made a bunch of contacts  and says it's okay if you just want to log a lot of contacts.  He also mentioned it might be the beginning of the end of Amateur Radio once they eliminate the Operator ... just computers talking to computers.   Interesting view point ...

Jerry  n9avy



From: "mwbesemer@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 12:14 PM
Subject: RE: [070] From an old PODXS member ...

 
Interesting.  I ran a lot of FT8 over the Thanksgiving holiday (because I could do it 'Armchair Portable' via Teamviewer and still be actively engaged with the rest of the family) and did not encounter that.  Honestly, I don't know how you COULD be crude/rude on FT8 since there is zero human interaction. 

I suppose you could still plop down on an ongoing exchange and muck things up a bit, but anyone going to that much effort is probably a lid regardless of mode.

I'm certainly not going to convert to FT8 full time, but it was a good way to occupy some time this weekend - and I DID work South Africa on 17 meters using only 40 watts.

Mike
WM4B


On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 1:06 PM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] wrote:

   " Ha! ve  you tried the wunnerful FT8 yet? I ran about 200 contacts and went back  to PSK. Encountered a lot of crude and rude ops on FT8."

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From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 4:04 PM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] From an old PODXS member ...

 

 

I generally try to work a bit outside the macros, especially if it is a fellow 070 club member.  But yes the general rule is that you are courteous of the other ham's time and respond according.

 

Heck, I may even sometimes slip in a short comment in an 070 contest exchange with a fellow member! 

 

73,

 

Tom

K8TOM

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On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Matthew King mrk.twg@... [070] <070@...> wrote:

 

I had a contact yesterday where I went outside my macros with just simple comment on the other op's rig working well.  Lo and behold, he replied in kind. Long story short - we chatted for over an hour! One of the nicest QSOs I've ever had.

 

Definitely can't do that with FT8! :-)  That mode has a place, sure, but I still prefer PSK-31 as you CAN go conversational if you like. I do that about 50% of the time. Rarely does it turn into a lengthy chat, but I frequently learn interesting tidbits about the other op.  It's also how we've gotten many new members to the 070 club!

 

73, y'all!

 

Matt King

AK4MK - 070 #1708

PODXS 070 Club Executive Director

 

 

 

On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 3:41 PM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] <070@...> wrote:

 

Rare DX is just that and pity the poor DX station who has to contend with a million or so hams who NEED that contacts and are not very mannerly in getting that contact.  The DX station doesn't have to deal with the "Kilocycle Kops" on his transmitting frequency yelling  "up, up , up" while the tuner-uppers are doing their thing... lots of malicious interference to deal with. Whether it be SSB or CW, the crap is still there and has only become worse.  In my early ham radio career I've heard many a DX station pull the plug on pileups. Used to be that American hams were the obnoxious ones, but now every other country has learned  to be obnoxious as well.

 

As a manager for a DX station, I was instructed by him to watch logs (paper ones !) for notes in margins saying that stations would not get QSL in any case because they were LIDs and did NOT follow instructions/procedures. ! Wish I still had those logs, but they went back to operator in the 80's.

 

This is just another reason that people chasing QSLs don't get them. Plus the stations send the poor DX operator 6 different ways to QSL  ...  bureau, LoTW, Eqsl, direct, Qrz.com ,   Hrd log,  and so on.   TMI !!!   Just say "QSL" and be done with it, the DX will send card whatever way works for him.

 

Jerry n9avy

BTW,  I use macros a lot , but I can and do edit them on the fly. Hate to send same boring stuff every time. A macro is used to get basic info across in case propagation changes, but after that...


From: "Martin Tuip ajax@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [070] From an old PODXS member ...

 

 

Is it any different than using a computer to log thousands of CW contacts in a contest or the quick 5NN 73 with a rare DX Inna pile up?


Martin



On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 10:44 AM -0800, "Jerry n9avy@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:

 

It was an interesting comment I found on FB and just thought I'd pass it along FWIW.   Just had a QSO on 2m this morning with a good friend and the subject of FT-8 came up.  He's made a bunch of contacts  and says it's okay if you just want to log a lot of contacts.  He also mentioned it might be the beginning of the end of Amateur Radio once they eliminate the Operator ... just computers talking to computers.   Interesting view point ...

 

Jerry  n9avy

 


From: "mwbesemer@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 12:14 PM
Subject: RE: [070] From an old PODXS member ...

 

 

Interesting.  I ran a lot of FT8 over the Thanksgiving holiday (because I could do it 'Armchair Portable' via Teamviewer and still be actively engaged with the rest of the family) and did not encounter that.  Honestly, I don't know how you COULD be crude/rude on FT8 since there is zero human interaction. 

 

I suppose you could still plop down on an ongoing exchange and muck things up a bit, but anyone going to that much effort is probably a lid regardless of mode.

 

I'm certainly not going to convert to FT8 full time, but it was a good way to occupy some time this weekend - and I DID work South Africa on 17 meters using only 40 watts.

 

Mike

WM4B

 

On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 1:06 PM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] wrote:

 

   " Ha! ve  you tried the wunnerful FT8 yet? I ran about 200 contacts and went back  to PSK. Encountered a lot of crude and rude ops on FT8."

 

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Re: From an old PODXS member ...

Steve VA3FLF/KM4FLF
 


My secret to successful PSK ragchew is Dragon Dictate. The mic plugs into the audio in on the sound card and doesn’t tie up a USB. Click in the text box and talk away. 
It’s easier than typing. My only problem is that it gets confused on my North Carolina / Canadian accent!
How’s that y’all eh?

My pet peeve is someone who says the like to ragchew but all you get is a canned macro exchange. It was great to see some PSK going this past weekend. 

Steve 
VA3FLF
KM4FLF
2301

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On Nov 27, 2017, at 15:53, Matthew King mrk.twg@... [070] <070@...> wrote:

 

I had a contact yesterday where I went outside my macros with just simple comment on the other op's rig working well.  Lo and behold, he replied in kind. Long story short - we chatted for over an hour! One of the nicest QSOs I've ever had.

Definitely can't do that with FT8! :-)  That mode has a place, sure, but I still prefer PSK-31 as you CAN go conversational if you like. I do that about 50% of the time. Rarely does it turn into a lengthy chat, but I frequently learn interesting tidbits about the other op.  It's also how we've gotten many new members to the 070 club!

73, y'all!

Matt King
AK4MK - 070 #1708
PODXS 070 Club Executive Director



On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 3:41 PM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
 

Rare DX is just that and pity the poor DX station who has to contend with a million or so hams who NEED that contacts and are not very mannerly in getting that contact.  The DX station doesn't have to deal with the "Kilocycle Kops" on his transmitting frequency yelling  "up, up , up" while the tuner-uppers are doing their thing... lots of malicious interference to deal with. Whether it be SSB or CW, the crap is still there and has only become worse.  In my early ham radio career I've heard many a DX station pull the plug on pileups. Used to be that American hams were the obnoxious ones, but now every other country has learned  to be obnoxious as well.

As a manager for a DX station, I was instructed by him to watch logs (paper ones !) for notes in margins saying that stations would not get QSL in any case because they were LIDs and did NOT follow instructions/procedures. ! Wish I still had those logs, but they went back to operator in the 80's.

This is just another reason that people chasing QSLs don't get them. Plus the stations send the poor DX operator 6 different ways to QSL  ...  bureau, LoTW, Eqsl, direct, Qrz.com ,   Hrd log,  and so on.   TMI !!!   Just say "QSL" and be done with it, the DX will send card whatever way works for him.

Jerry n9avy
BTW,  I use macros a lot , but I can and do edit them on the fly. Hate to send same boring stuff every time. A macro is used to get basic info across in case propagation changes, but after that...


From: "Martin Tuip ajax@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [070] From an old PODXS member ...

 
Is it any different than using a computer to log thousands of CW contacts in a contest or the quick 5NN 73 with a rare DX Inna pile up?



Martin



On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 10:44 AM -0800, "Jerry n9avy@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:

 
It was an interesting comment I found on FB and just thought I'd pass it along FWIW.   Just had a QSO on 2m this morning with a good friend and the subject of FT-8 came up.  He's made a bunch of contacts  and says it's okay if you just want to log a lot of contacts.  He also mentioned it might be the beginning of the end of Amateur Radio once they eliminate the Operator ... just computers talking to computers.   Interesting view point ...

Jerry  n9avy



From: "mwbesemer@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 12:14 PM
Subject: RE: [070] From an old PODXS member ...

 
Interesting.  I ran a lot of FT8 over the Thanksgiving holiday (because I could do it 'Armchair Portable' via Teamviewer and still be actively engaged with the rest of the family) and did not encounter that.  Honestly, I don't know how you COULD be crude/rude on FT8 since there is zero human interaction. 

I suppose you could still plop down on an ongoing exchange and muck things up a bit, but anyone going to that much effort is probably a lid regardless of mode.

I'm certainly not going to convert to FT8 full time, but it was a good way to occupy some time this weekend - and I DID work South Africa on 17 meters using only 40 watts.

Mike
WM4B


On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 1:06 PM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] wrote:

   " Ha! ve  you tried the wunnerful FT8 yet? I ran about 200 contacts and went back  to PSK. Encountered a lot of crude and rude ops on FT8."

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Re: From an old PODXS member ...

K8TOM
 

I generally try to work a bit outside the macros, especially if it is a fellow 070 club member.  But yes the general rule is that you are courteous of the other ham's time and respond according.

Heck, I may even sometimes slip in a short comment in an 070 contest exchange with a fellow member! 

73,

Tom
K8TOM
815

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On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Matthew King mrk.twg@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
 

I had a contact yesterday where I went outside my macros with just simple comment on the other op's rig working well.  Lo and behold, he replied in kind. Long story short - we chatted for over an hour! One of the nicest QSOs I've ever had.

Definitely can't do that with FT8! :-)  That mode has a place, sure, but I still prefer PSK-31 as you CAN go conversational if you like. I do that about 50% of the time. Rarely does it turn into a lengthy chat, but I frequently learn interesting tidbits about the other op.  It's also how we've gotten many new members to the 070 club!

73, y'all!

Matt King
AK4MK - 070 #1708
PODXS 070 Club Executive Director



On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 3:41 PM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
 

Rare DX is just that and pity the poor DX station who has to contend with a million or so hams who NEED that contacts and are not very mannerly in getting that contact.  The DX station doesn't have to deal with the "Kilocycle Kops" on his transmitting frequency yelling  "up, up , up" while the tuner-uppers are doing their thing... lots of malicious interference to deal with. Whether it be SSB or CW, the crap is still there and has only become worse.  In my early ham radio career I've heard many a DX station pull the plug on pileups. Used to be that American hams were the obnoxious ones, but now every other country has learned  to be obnoxious as well.

As a manager for a DX station, I was instructed by him to watch logs (paper ones !) for notes in margins saying that stations would not get QSL in any case because they were LIDs and did NOT follow instructions/procedures. ! Wish I still had those logs, but they went back to operator in the 80's.

This is just another reason that people chasing QSLs don't get them. Plus the stations send the poor DX operator 6 different ways to QSL  ...  bureau, LoTW, Eqsl, direct, Qrz.com ,   Hrd log,  and so on.   TMI !!!   Just say "QSL" and be done with it, the DX will send card whatever way works for him.

Jerry n9avy
BTW,  I use macros a lot , but I can and do edit them on the fly. Hate to send same boring stuff every time. A macro is used to get basic info across in case propagation changes, but after that...


From: "Martin Tuip ajax@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [070] From an old PODXS member ...

 
Is it any different than using a computer to log thousands of CW contacts in a contest or the quick 5NN 73 with a rare DX Inna pile up?



Martin



On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 10:44 AM -0800, "Jerry n9avy@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:

 
It was an interesting comment I found on FB and just thought I'd pass it along FWIW.   Just had a QSO on 2m this morning with a good friend and the subject of FT-8 came up.  He's made a bunch of contacts  and says it's okay if you just want to log a lot of contacts.  He also mentioned it might be the beginning of the end of Amateur Radio once they eliminate the Operator ... just computers talking to computers.   Interesting view point ...

Jerry  n9avy



From: "mwbesemer@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 12:14 PM
Subject: RE: [070] From an old PODXS member ...

 
Interesting.  I ran a lot of FT8 over the Thanksgiving holiday (because I could do it 'Armchair Portable' via Teamviewer and still be actively engaged with the rest of the family) and did not encounter that.  Honestly, I don't know how you COULD be crude/rude on FT8 since there is zero human interaction. 

I suppose you could still plop down on an ongoing exchange and muck things up a bit, but anyone going to that much effort is probably a lid regardless of mode.

I'm certainly not going to convert to FT8 full time, but it was a good way to occupy some time this weekend - and I DID work South Africa on 17 meters using only 40 watts.

Mike
WM4B


On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 1:06 PM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] wrote:

   " Ha! ve  you tried the wunnerful FT8 yet? I ran about 200 contacts and went back  to PSK. Encountered a lot of crude and rude ops on FT8."

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Re: From an old PODXS member ...

Matthew King - AK4MK
 

I had a contact yesterday where I went outside my macros with just simple comment on the other op's rig working well.  Lo and behold, he replied in kind. Long story short - we chatted for over an hour! One of the nicest QSOs I've ever had.

Definitely can't do that with FT8! :-)  That mode has a place, sure, but I still prefer PSK-31 as you CAN go conversational if you like. I do that about 50% of the time. Rarely does it turn into a lengthy chat, but I frequently learn interesting tidbits about the other op.  It's also how we've gotten many new members to the 070 club!

73, y'all!

Matt King
AK4MK - 070 #1708
PODXS 070 Club Executive Director



On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 3:41 PM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
 

Rare DX is just that and pity the poor DX station who has to contend with a million or so hams who NEED that contacts and are not very mannerly in getting that contact.  The DX station doesn't have to deal with the "Kilocycle Kops" on his transmitting frequency yelling  "up, up , up" while the tuner-uppers are doing their thing... lots of malicious interference to deal with. Whether it be SSB or CW, the crap is still there and has only become worse.  In my early ham radio career I've heard many a DX station pull the plug on pileups. Used to be that American hams were the obnoxious ones, but now every other country has learned  to be obnoxious as well.

As a manager for a DX station, I was instructed by him to watch logs (paper ones !) for notes in margins saying that stations would not get QSL in any case because they were LIDs and did NOT follow instructions/procedures. ! Wish I still had those logs, but they went back to operator in the 80's.

This is just another reason that people chasing QSLs don't get them. Plus the stations send the poor DX operator 6 different ways to QSL  ...  bureau, LoTW, Eqsl, direct, Qrz.com ,   Hrd log,  and so on.   TMI !!!   Just say "QSL" and be done with it, the DX will send card whatever way works for him.

Jerry n9avy
BTW,  I use macros a lot , but I can and do edit them on the fly. Hate to send same boring stuff every time. A macro is used to get basic info across in case propagation changes, but after that...


From: "Martin Tuip ajax@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [070] From an old PODXS member ...

 
Is it any different than using a computer to log thousands of CW contacts in a contest or the quick 5NN 73 with a rare DX Inna pile up?



Martin



On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 10:44 AM -0800, "Jerry n9avy@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:

 
It was an interesting comment I found on FB and just thought I'd pass it along FWIW.   Just had a QSO on 2m this morning with a good friend and the subject of FT-8 came up.  He's made a bunch of contacts  and says it's okay if you just want to log a lot of contacts.  He also mentioned it might be the beginning of the end of Amateur Radio once they eliminate the Operator ... just computers talking to computers.   Interesting view point ...

Jerry  n9avy



From: "mwbesemer@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 12:14 PM
Subject: RE: [070] From an old PODXS member ...

 
Interesting.  I ran a lot of FT8 over the Thanksgiving holiday (because I could do it 'Armchair Portable' via Teamviewer and still be actively engaged with the rest of the family) and did not encounter that.  Honestly, I don't know how you COULD be crude/rude on FT8 since there is zero human interaction. 

I suppose you could still plop down on an ongoing exchange and muck things up a bit, but anyone going to that much effort is probably a lid regardless of mode.

I'm certainly not going to convert to FT8 full time, but it was a good way to occupy some time this weekend - and I DID work South Africa on 17 meters using only 40 watts.

Mike
WM4B


On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 1:06 PM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] wrote:

   " Ha! ve  you tried the wunnerful FT8 yet? I ran about 200 contacts and went back  to PSK. Encountered a lot of crude and rude ops on FT8."

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Re: From an old PODXS member ...

Jerry N9AVY
 

Rare DX is just that and pity the poor DX station who has to contend with a million or so hams who NEED that contacts and are not very mannerly in getting that contact.  The DX station doesn't have to deal with the "Kilocycle Kops" on his transmitting frequency yelling  "up, up , up" while the tuner-uppers are doing their thing... lots of malicious interference to deal with. Whether it be SSB or CW, the crap is still there and has only become worse.  In my early ham radio career I've heard many a DX station pull the plug on pileups. Used to be that American hams were the obnoxious ones, but now every other country has learned  to be obnoxious as well.

As a manager for a DX station, I was instructed by him to watch logs (paper ones !) for notes in margins saying that stations would not get QSL in any case because they were LIDs and did NOT follow instructions/procedures. ! Wish I still had those logs, but they went back to operator in the 80's.

This is just another reason that people chasing QSLs don't get them. Plus the stations send the poor DX operator 6 different ways to QSL  ...  bureau, LoTW, Eqsl, direct, Qrz.com ,   Hrd log,  and so on.   TMI !!!   Just say "QSL" and be done with it, the DX will send card whatever way works for him.

Jerry n9avy
BTW,  I use macros a lot , but I can and do edit them on the fly. Hate to send same boring stuff every time. A macro is used to get basic info across in case propagation changes, but after that...


From: "Martin Tuip ajax@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [070] From an old PODXS member ...

 
Is it any different than using a computer to log thousands of CW contacts in a contest or the quick 5NN 73 with a rare DX Inna pile up?



Martin



On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 10:44 AM -0800, "Jerry n9avy@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:

 
It was an interesting comment I found on FB and just thought I'd pass it along FWIW.   Just had a QSO on 2m this morning with a good friend and the subject of FT-8 came up.  He's made a bunch of contacts  and says it's okay if you just want to log a lot of contacts.  He also mentioned it might be the beginning of the end of Amateur Radio once they eliminate the Operator ... just computers talking to computers.   Interesting view point ...

Jerry  n9avy



From: "mwbesemer@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 12:14 PM
Subject: RE: [070] From an old PODXS member ...

 
Interesting.  I ran a lot of FT8 over the Thanksgiving holiday (because I could do it 'Armchair Portable' via Teamviewer and still be actively engaged with the rest of the family) and did not encounter that.  Honestly, I don't know how you COULD be crude/rude on FT8 since there is zero human interaction. 

I suppose you could still plop down on an ongoing exchange and muck things up a bit, but anyone going to that much effort is probably a lid regardless of mode.

I'm certainly not going to convert to FT8 full time, but it was a good way to occupy some time this weekend - and I DID work South Africa on 17 meters using only 40 watts.

Mike
WM4B


On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 1:06 PM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] wrote:

   " Ha! ve  you tried the wunnerful FT8 yet? I ran about 200 contacts and went back  to PSK. Encountered a lot of crude and rude ops on FT8."

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Welcome

Jim K5SP
 




-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: Welcome
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2017 11:59:39 -0600
From: Jim Innis
To: 070@..., MATT@...


Please join me in welcoming our new PODXS070 member(s). 

2579  Matt   K2MFW

Jim, K5SP #483
Membership Director


Re: From an old PODXS member ...

mwbesemer@...
 


Re: From an old PODXS member ...

Martin Tuip
 

Is it any different than using a computer to log thousands of CW contacts in a contest or the quick 5NN 73 with a rare DX Inna pile up?



Martin



On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 10:44 AM -0800, "Jerry n9avy@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:

 

It was an interesting comment I found on FB and just thought I'd pass it along FWIW.   Just had a QSO on 2m this morning with a good friend and the subject of FT-8 came up.  He's made a bunch of contacts  and says it's okay if you just want to log a lot of contacts.  He also mentioned it might be the beginning of the end of Amateur Radio once they eliminate the Operator ... just computers talking to computers.   Interesting view point ...

Jerry  n9avy



From: "mwbesemer@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 12:14 PM
Subject: RE: [070] From an old PODXS member ...

 
Interesting.  I ran a lot of FT8 over the Thanksgiving holiday (because I could do it 'Armchair Portable' via Teamviewer and still be actively engaged with the rest of the family) and did not encounter that.  Honestly, I don't know how you COULD be crude/rude on FT8 since there is zero human interaction. 

I suppose you could still plop down on an ongoing exchange and muck things up a bit, but anyone going to that much effort is probably a lid regardless of mode.

I'm certainly not going to convert to FT8 full time, but it was a good way to occupy some time this weekend - and I DID work South Africa on 17 meters using only 40 watts.

Mike
WM4B


On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 1:06 PM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] wrote:

   " Ha! ve  you tried the wunnerful FT8 yet? I ran about 200 contacts and went back  to PSK. Encountered a lot of crude and rude ops on FT8."

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Re: From an old PODXS member ...

mwbesemer@...
 


Re: From an old PODXS member ...

Brian (N2MLP)
 

But PSK is the same thing if you’re using MACRO’S 100%

 

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         de N2MLP Brian

       Monroe County PA

 

 

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From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 1:44 PM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] From an old PODXS member ...

 

 

It was an interesting comment I found on FB and just thought I'd pass it along FWIW.   Just had a QSO on 2m this morning with a good friend and the subject of FT-8 came up.  He's made a bunch of contacts  and says it's okay if you just want to log a lot of contacts.  He also mentioned it might be the beginning of the end of Amateur Radio once they eliminate the Operator ... just computers talking to computers.   Interesting view point ...

 

Jerry  n9avy

 


From: "mwbesemer@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 12:14 PM
Subject: RE: [070] From an old PODXS member ...

 

 

Interesting.  I ran a lot of FT8 over the Thanksgiving holiday (because I could do it 'Armchair Portable' via Teamviewer and still be actively engaged with the rest of the family) and did not encounter that.  Honestly, I don't know how you COULD be crude/rude on FT8 since there is zero human interaction. 

 

I suppose you could still plop down on an ongoing exchange and muck things up a bit, but anyone going to that much effort is probably a lid regardless of mode.

 

I'm certainly not going to convert to FT8 full tim e, but it was a good way to occupy some time this weekend - and I DID work South Africa on 17 meters using only 40 watts.

 

Mike

WM4B

 

On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 1:06 PM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] wrote:

 

   " Ha! ve  you tried the wunnerful FT8 yet? I ran about 200 contacts and went back  to PSK. Encountered a lot of crude and rude ops on FT8."

 

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Re: From an old PODXS member ...

Jerry N9AVY
 

It was an interesting comment I found on FB and just thought I'd pass it along FWIW.   Just had a QSO on 2m this morning with a good friend and the subject of FT-8 came up.  He's made a bunch of contacts  and says it's okay if you just want to log a lot of contacts.  He also mentioned it might be the beginning of the end of Amateur Radio once they eliminate the Operator ... just computers talking to computers.   Interesting view point ...

Jerry  n9avy



From: "mwbesemer@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 12:14 PM
Subject: RE: [070] From an old PODXS member ...

 
Interesting.  I ran a lot of FT8 over the Thanksgiving holiday (because I could do it 'Armchair Portable' via Teamviewer and still be actively engaged with the rest of the family) and did not encounter that.  Honestly, I don't know how you COULD be crude/rude on FT8 since there is zero human interaction. 

I suppose you could still plop down on an ongoing exchange and muck things up a bit, but anyone going to that much effort is probably a lid regardless of mode.

I'm certainly not going to convert to FT8 full time, but it was a good way to occupy some time this weekend - and I DID work South Africa on 17 meters using only 40 watts.

Mike
WM4B


On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 1:06 PM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] wrote:

   " Ha! ve  you tried the wunnerful FT8 yet? I ran about 200 contacts and went back  to PSK. Encountered a lot of crude and rude ops on FT8."

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Re: From an old PODXS member ...

mwbesemer@...
 


From an old PODXS member ...

Jerry N9AVY
 

" Have you tried the wunnerful FT8 yet? I ran about 200 contacts and went back to PSK. Encountered a lot of crude and rude ops on FT8."

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Welcome

Jim K5SP
 

Please join me in welcoming our new PODXS070 member(s). 

2579  Matt   K2MFW

Jim, K5SP #483
Membership Director


SOS - Same Old Signal

Jerry N9AVY
 

It's back with us  here this morning.  Guess the op didn't get back from Turkey Day vacation yet.  Hope he eventually find his rig has been transmitting dead carrier for a week or more !   Must have a good rig because he hasn't fried the finals yet. At least he didn't leave it on "auto CQ" because that would have been annoying.


Jerry  N9AVY



Re: Stickers

Bill Garwood
 

Jerry,

 

My PO box is in a tiny small town rural post office.  It is open 24/7 so far.  That’s good for me as I check it a couple of times a week whenever I’m in the area.

 

My brother in Raleigh has a PO Box in the city that is locked up at night and at times on the weekend.  They were having problems with homeless sleeping in there overnight, leaving a mess and harassing the PO box customers.

 

Times are a changing for whatever it is the USPS does.  I shop for a lot of stuff on Amazon Prime.  I’m getting home package delivery here in the middle of the swamp on Sundays by the USPS.  I think the USPS is trying hard to improve service and efficiency but that takes time and a commitment by the postal workers nationwide.  I remember using a 5 cent stamp on a letter that took a week or longer to deliver but I think 54 cents for a first class letter that arrives in a day or two is a reasonable cost in today’s economy. 

 

Y’all have a good week.

 

73,

 

Bill N4GBK

 

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From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of Jerry n9avy@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 11:11:25 PM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] Stickers
 
 

You're got Sunday mail delivery  ???  

They lock my P.O. up at 4 PM Saturday  and don't open until 8:30 AM Monday . USPS is getting finickier with increased postage  going up 5 cents in 2018  to  54 cents for 1 st class.  Mailed a package on Saturday and they wanted to charge an extra  $10 to mark it fragile !    No wonder they're  $2.7 MIL  in the hole !

Jerry  N9AVY



From: "Bill Garwood n4gbk@... [070]" <070@...>
To: "070@..." <070@...>
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 5:17 PM
Subject: [070] Stickers

 
Went to the PO Box today and lo and behold!  Another envelope of stickers.

Thank you to all of the club members who work to keep the awards, stickers and contests flowing.

Happy Radio!

73,

Bill N4GBK in NC



Re: Stickers

Jerry N9AVY
 

You're got Sunday mail delivery  ???  

They lock my P.O. up at 4 PM Saturday  and don't open until 8:30 AM Monday . USPS is getting finickier with increased postage  going up 5 cents in 2018  to  54 cents for 1 st class.  Mailed a package on Saturday and they wanted to charge an extra  $10 to mark it fragile !    No wonder they're  $2.7 MIL  in the hole !

Jerry  N9AVY



From: "Bill Garwood n4gbk@... [070]" <070@...>
To: "070@..." <070@...>
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 5:17 PM
Subject: [070] Stickers

 
Went to the PO Box today and lo and behold!  Another envelope of stickers.

Thank you to all of the club members who work to keep the awards, stickers and contests flowing.

Happy Radio!

73,

Bill N4GBK in NC



Stickers

Bill Garwood
 

Went to the PO Box today and lo and behold!  Another envelope of stickers.


Thank you to all of the club members who work to keep the awards, stickers and contests flowing.


Happy Radio!


73,


Bill N4GBK in NC


Re: 070 List Service

Dan Morris - KZ3T
 

Matt - Another list service I belong to NCVA just switched over and he did not have a problem at all.

Dan Morris  KZ3T  070-1065

I live to live for Him!




On Nov 26, 2017, at 1:06 PM, Matthew King mrk.twg@... [070] <070@...> wrote:


Dan - this is something that we're giving some consideration. 

I think the Yahoo buyout is still languishing in legal battles, but their service has definitely gone downhill for some reason.

The GROUPS.IO switch is indeed supposed to be pretty painless, and it's one that I'm seriously thinking about.  An advantage to them is that you only have to have an email address, no crazy Yahoo login-type thing or anything like that.

I'm going to post a "special notice" to the Yahoo Group to garner some feedback on a potential move, I do believe. Might even send an email to all the member for which we have email addresses and go from there. We'll have to see how that turns out.

Does anybody here have any feedback on the idea at this point?

73

Matt King
AK4MK - 070 #1708
PODXS 070 Club Executive Director





On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 6:52 PM, Dan Morris dbmorris315@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
 

Don’t know if Yahoo Groups is going to continue to give problems and I believe someone said they have been bought out.  

I know already that a number of list services have dumped Yahoo Groups and gone to groups.io  which appears to be a lot better than yahoo groups.

Just a thought. Evidently it is rather painless to migrate over.

Dan Morris KZ3T
dbmorris315@...

I live to live for Him!




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