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Re: Contest Scorer

ljl2002@att.net
 

Hey Barry,

Were you running QRP again or are you guys up north on the outs with ol' sol?
Kinda tough goin, eh?  Same here.

Joe
KA1PPV  #1482


On Monday, November 13, 2017 1:18 PM, "boat.anchor@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:


 
Matt
TVM for update.
My log shud B the 1st to pop up as it is currently the smallest hi hi
Barry



---In 070@..., wrote :

Yessir, there's a problem with it, Barry.

David is aware of it and is hoping to get it squared away in the next day or two. He'll re-run all the existing logs at that time, so keep and eye on it to see your score magically appear!

Be good up there in sunny Canada! :-)

73

Matt King
AK4MK - 070 #1708
PODXS 070 Club Executive Director


On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 1:00 PM, boat.anchor@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
 
Is there something wrong with the scorer.
No points have been assigned.
Barry
VB7150






Re: Newbie question re 070 Sprint contest rules

ljl2002@att.net
 

Hey Ted,

Lucky for you the club is doing this sprint again next month!

We'll be lookin fer ya in upcoming contests.  They are always fun regardless where you place and the only enemy is the ionosphere.

CUL.

Joe
KA1PPV  #1482



On Sunday, November 12, 2017 6:22 PM, "Jerry n9avy@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:


 
Welcome aboard.  Hope you'll have fun here !
 
73,  Jerry  N9AVY   #454



From: "qed479@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2017 5:05 PM
Subject: [070] Newbie question re 070 Sprint contest rules

 
Hello, all.  New to PODXS (#2574) and sprint contests.  Where can I find the rules for the Triple Play Low Band Sprint?  I won't be participating in this one, but I'd like to prep for the next sprint contest.  Can't seem to find a path to the rules.

Thanks and 73
qed479
AC8SW






Re: 2018 ARRL Grid Chase

W7RIV
 

Jerry, I don't agree. I do not think all operators are interested in conversations. I'm one of them. I love FT8 because they are short. I think RTTY is typically short as well and I don't see that one going away. I also did JT-65 for a while. I tired of that, not because of the short communication, but because the length of time one took. Now, with FT-8 that problem has been resolved. I find it frustrating when I'm calling CQ and I send a short PSK31 QSO and I get back minutes and minutes of station data, weather data, antenna, etc. I have multiple macros, and I try to respect those sending. So if I answer a CQ being sent out, I will respond with more. But, not so much to draw out a long QSO and for what? Information that I don't need to know, and isn't a personal conversation. I've even broken out of the macros and had discussions when I see something interesting in the call or from QRZ data. FT-8 has been super fun and in a time where noise and signals are week, I've gotten more ATNO with FT-8 in the last 6 months than I have with PSK31. I love PSK31. I love this club. I love the endorsement checker. I would love to have something like that with every mode I do. 

Bryon, W7RIV

On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 12:18 PM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
 

My predictions are seldom accurate, but maybe this one will come to pass.
 
I suspect that FT-8 will self-destruct in a year or two because many will tire of contacts with little information. People get into ham radio to meet other people and have some meaningful conversations.  FT-8 QSOs are just plain old "599 QSL 73" ones and people will tire of that.  Choices of operating frequencies were ill conceived and there will be a backlash because of it.
 
I also predict that ARRL may see a loss in membership as a result of just another year long stupid contest which probably won't generate the revenue they had hoped. I plan on being one of the statistics in loss of revenue.
 
 
Jerry  N9AVY



From: "Christopher J LaRue NO7E no7e@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070 <070@...>
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 11:58 AM
Subject: [070] 2018 ARRL Grid Chase

 
Anyone else read the specifications on this?  FT8 is going to be
absolutely dominating every band when this mess starts.  It will be a
year long FT8 contest.

http://www.arrl.org/international-grid-chase-2018

I admit I like and use FT8 but I prefer to actually have a conversation
with other operators.  That is why I like PSK31, the problem is most of
the contacts are about as interesting lately as FT8.  Hello, my name is,
his/her name is the grid signal report and 73.  Sometimes you actually
get rig information and a little chat but that is getting rare even on
PSK31.

--
73 de Chris NO7E
no7e@...





Re: 2018 ARRL Grid Chase

mwbesemer@...
 


Re: 2018 ARRL Grid Chase

Steve W3HF
 

I don't think FT8 is a good contest mode. A good CW op can do 4 QSOs per minute during a contest; FT8 is about 90 seconds per QSO. Even RTTY is faster than FT8.


Yes, the other JT modes are very slow, something like 5 minutes per QSO. So FT8 is much faster than they are, and that's the comparison that's made. It's actually even slower than PSK31, but it may seem faster because the exchanges are rigorously defined and don't waste characters. On PSK31, we're "trapped" by inefficiently defined exchanges, everything from multiple repetitions of callsigns (even after calls are acknowledged on both sides) to extraneous non-information that takes time to repeat. (For examples, dig through the reflector archives to the discussions on efficient contest protocols. I won't repeat them here because it always becomes a "don't tell me how to format my transmissions" argument, and no one wins. I wonder how many of those folks are using JT modes where they CAN'T format their transmissions?)


Where FT8 will benefit is working the weak stations, caused by either propagation conditions or just some stations' physical limitations (like compromise antennas). There will always be someone somewhere who needs "weak signal" capabilities, and FT8 (and other JT modes) fit that bill.


Steve

W3HF


Re: 2018 ARRL Grid Chase

Jerry N9AVY
 

Okay ...  so what speed is  FT-8... most CW ops are send at 30-40 wpm.  Is FT-8 that fast ???   Also, what is band- width of FT-8 signal as compared to a CW signal ???
 
Just curious ...
 
Jerry  N9AVY



From: "n7we1980@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: [070] 2018 ARRL Grid Chase

 
Here is my prediction.

Given the level of automation in the current FT-8 version, its superior performance on very weak signals, and the minimalist exchange, I think FT-8 or its future evolution's will replace CW as the preferred contest mode.  In fact, I think I remember reading somewhere that part of its development was in response to other JT modes being too slow for contesting and requests for a high speed contest capable format that used the technology. As soon as N1MM logger+ is fully interfaced (if it hasn't already happened) I think it will be off to the races.  CW contesting is already mostly keyboard and automated.  Imagine CQ WW-CW with FT-8 as an allowed mode and a full legal limit amp!  Coming soon to your favorite HF band.  I hope not.

Time will tell. 

Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602



Re: 2018 ARRL Grid Chase

Rick - N7WE
 

Here is my prediction.

Given the level of automation in the current FT-8 version, its superior performance on very weak signals, and the minimalist exchange, I think FT-8 or its future evolution's will replace CW as the preferred contest mode.  In fact, I think I remember reading somewhere that part of its development was in response to other JT modes being too slow for contesting and requests for a high speed contest capable format that used the technology. As soon as N1MM logger+ is fully interfaced (if it hasn't already happened) I think it will be off to the races.  CW contesting is already mostly keyboard and automated.  Imagine CQ WW-CW with FT-8 as an allowed mode and a full legal limit amp!  Coming soon to your favorite HF band.  I hope not.

Time will tell. 

Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602


Re: 2018 ARRL Grid Chase

Steve VA3FLF/KM4FLF
 

One thing going for FT8 is the terrible band conditions.

I suspect that as conditions start improving over the next 3 years (hopefully ) that it will lose its luster. Besides, by then everyone will have WAS and DXCC FT8.  Then what will they do? Haha

Steve 
VA3FLF

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 13, 2017, at 14:32, mwbesemer@... [070] <070@...> wrote:

 

Just for giggles, I reinstalled WSJT-X over the weekend and gave FT8 another try. I'll probably play with it when the bands are really dead, but I don't see the attraction really; it's certainly not the ham radio I learned.  

As for the ARRL... now that they've found themselves in a hole, they should quit digging.

Mike
WM4b
#348


On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 2:18 PM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] wrote:

   My predictions are seldom accurate, but maybe this one will come to pass.
 
I suspect that FT-8 will self-destruct in a year or two because many will tire of contacts with little information. People get into ham radio to meet other people and have some meaningful conversations.  FT-8 QSOs are just plain old "599 QSL 73" ones and people will tire of that.  Choices of operating frequencies were ill conceived and there will be a backlash because of it.
 
I also predict that ARRL may see a loss in membership as a result of just another year long stupid contest which probably won't generate the revenue they had hoped. I plan on being one of the statistics in loss of revenue.
 
 
Jerry  N9AVY



___________________________________

From: "Christopher J LaRue NO7E no7e@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070 <070@...>
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 11:58 AM
Subject: [070] 2018 ARRL Grid Chase

  Anyone else read the specifications on this?  FT8 is going to be
absolutely dominating every band when this mess starts.  It will be a
year long FT8 contest.


I admit I like and use FT8 but I prefer to actually have a conversation
with other operators.  That is why I like PSK31, the problem is most of
the contacts are about as interesting lately as FT8.  Hello, my name is,
his/her name is the grid signal report and 73.  Sometimes you actually
get rig information and a little chat but that is getting rare even on
PSK31.

--
73 de Chris NO7E






Re: 2018 ARRL Grid Chase

mwbesemer@...
 


Re: 2018 ARRL Grid Chase

Jerry N9AVY
 

My predictions are seldom accurate, but maybe this one will come to pass.
 
I suspect that FT-8 will self-destruct in a year or two because many will tire of contacts with little information. People get into ham radio to meet other people and have some meaningful conversations.  FT-8 QSOs are just plain old "599 QSL 73" ones and people will tire of that.  Choices of operating frequencies were ill conceived and there will be a backlash because of it.
 
I also predict that ARRL may see a loss in membership as a result of just another year long stupid contest which probably won't generate the revenue they had hoped. I plan on being one of the statistics in loss of revenue.
 
 
Jerry  N9AVY



From: "Christopher J LaRue NO7E no7e@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070 <070@...>
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 11:58 AM
Subject: [070] 2018 ARRL Grid Chase

 
Anyone else read the specifications on this?  FT8 is going to be
absolutely dominating every band when this mess starts.  It will be a
year long FT8 contest.

http://www.arrl.org/international-grid-chase-2018

I admit I like and use FT8 but I prefer to actually have a conversation
with other operators.  That is why I like PSK31, the problem is most of
the contacts are about as interesting lately as FT8.  Hello, my name is,
his/her name is the grid signal report and 73.  Sometimes you actually
get rig information and a little chat but that is getting rare even on
PSK31.

--
73 de Chris NO7E
no7e@...




12M

boat.anchor@...
 

CQing on 24.921 at 1820Z

no takers

Barry

VB7150



Re: Contest Scorer

boat.anchor@...
 

Matt
TVM for update.
My log shud B the 1st to pop up as it is currently the smallest hi hi
Barry



---In 070@..., <mrk.twg@...> wrote :

Yessir, there's a problem with it, Barry.

David is aware of it and is hoping to get it squared away in the next day or two. He'll re-run all the existing logs at that time, so keep and eye on it to see your score magically appear!

Be good up there in sunny Canada! :-)

73

Matt King
AK4MK - 070 #1708
PODXS 070 Club Executive Director


On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 1:00 PM, boat.anchor@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
 

Is there something wrong with the scorer.

http://hamclubs.info/scorer/? contest_id=070-TRIPLE-PLAY& year=2017&info=1

No points have been assigned.

Barry

VB7150





Re: 12M

Fr Richard R
 

Excellent 2nd 12m QSO into FL, K4RU, thanks David.....,
Fr Richard
WB8YXF



On Monday, November 13, 2017, 12:03:05 PM EST, Otets Richard rickocr2005@... [070] <070@...> wrote:


 

Om 24.920 +1600
17:03Z

Fr Richard


Re: Contest Scorer

John Bower <poppajohnbower@...>
 

Hi Barry,
I dropped a note to David last evening and I'm sure he will fix it.
John KE4JB

On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 1:00 PM, boat.anchor@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
 

Is there something wrong with the scorer.

http://hamclubs.info/scorer/?contest_id=070-TRIPLE-PLAY&year=2017&info=1

No points have been assigned.

Barry

VB7150





Re: Contest Scorer

Matthew King <mrk.twg@...>
 

Yessir, there's a problem with it, Barry.

David is aware of it and is hoping to get it squared away in the next day or two. He'll re-run all the existing logs at that time, so keep and eye on it to see your score magically appear!

Be good up there in sunny Canada! :-)

73

Matt King
AK4MK - 070 #1708
PODXS 070 Club Executive Director


On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 1:00 PM, boat.anchor@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
 

Is there something wrong with the scorer.

http://hamclubs.info/scorer/?contest_id=070-TRIPLE-PLAY&year=2017&info=1

No points have been assigned.

Barry

VB7150





Contest Scorer

boat.anchor@...
 

Is there something wrong with the scorer.

http://hamclubs.info/scorer/?contest_id=070-TRIPLE-PLAY&year=2017&info=1

No points have been assigned.

Barry

VB7150




2018 ARRL Grid Chase

Chris J LaRue NO7E
 

Anyone else read the specifications on this?  FT8 is going to be absolutely dominating every band when this mess starts.  It will be a year long FT8 contest.

http://www.arrl.org/international-grid-chase-2018


I admit I like and use FT8 but I prefer to actually have a conversation with other operators.  That is why I like PSK31, the problem is most of the contacts are about as interesting lately as FT8.  Hello, my name is, his/her name is the grid signal report and 73.  Sometimes you actually get rig information and a little chat but that is getting rare even on PSK31.

--
73 de Chris NO7E
no7e@arrl.net


Re: 12M

stan W9SMR
 

Fr Richard,


Tnx fer posting and FB 12m QSO. 


QSB was bad, but had good cpy on you.


Was not sure what call to look for.  For future SPOTTING, pse give your CALL,  QTH and time so we can better zero in on you.


Will call CQ at 24,920  +2,000,  18:00 UTC


Stan

W9SMR

SW  FL

EL87sf

#1611




From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of Otets Richard rickocr2005@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 12:02 PM
To: 070 List Service 070 List Service
Subject: [070] 12M
 


Om 24.920 +1600
17:03Z

Fr Richard




Re: 12M

Fr Richard R
 

W9SMR, Stan,
Thank you for your patience and QSO.  Wonderful

Fr Richard
WB8YXF 2328



On Monday, November 13, 2017, 12:03:05 PM EST, Otets Richard rickocr2005@... [070] <070@...> wrote:


 

Om 24.920 +1600
17:03Z

Fr Richard


12M

Fr Richard R
 

Om 24.920 +1600
17:03Z

Fr Richard

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