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Re: Audio Level with DM780

Randy True
 

I usually adjust the Signalink until I see ALC then back off until the ALC is gone.


Randy W4RTT




From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of oldjavadrinker@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Sunday, November 5, 2017 5:05 PM
To: 070@...
Subject: [070] Audio Level with DM780
 
 

I posted this on HRD group a while back and never got a response. For those of you that use HRD/DM780, what do you have as your normal audio level with DM780?


_____________________________

This is something I never really paid close attention too until I was playing around with audio levels. I followed a little recommended procedure for adjusting sound card levels with WSJTX. The goal is to get the output levels between +30- and +50 db on the scale. So I had to adjust my sound card levels and USB output on my rig as well. 


Just for kicks I went back to look at DM780 and found my audio bar at about 14%. I had been running my audio level into DM780 around 50%.  I checked the manual and I did not see a recommended level, however I did notice on a couple of screen shots of setup examples the level is down near 3%.


 Looking at the waterfall and db levels I did not see a difference from 18 to 50 on any signal on my waterfall.  I know that is not a scientific measurement.


My question is what is the recommended audio level for DM780,?


Steve

VA3FLF

2301




Re: Audio Level with DM780

Matthew King <mrk.twg@...>
 

I'm generally about 18-23%. The SignaLink is turned up all the way on TX. I sometimes have to back it down a bit for WSJT-X on the occasions that I use it.

73

Matt King
AK4MK - 070 #1708
PODXS 070 Club Executive Director




Virus-free. www.avast.com

On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 5:05 PM, oldjavadrinker@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
 

I posted this on HRD group a while back and never got a response. For those of you that use HRD/DM780, what do you have as your normal audio level with DM780?


_____________________________

This is something I never really paid close attention too until I was playing around with audio levels. I followed a little recommended procedure for adjusting sound card levels with WSJTX. The goal is to get the output levels between +30- and +50 db on the scale. So I had to adjust my sound card levels and USB output on my rig as well. 


Just for kicks I went back to look at DM780 and found my audio bar at about 14%. I had been running my audio level into DM780 around 50%.  I checked the manual and I did not see a recommended level, however I did notice on a couple of screen shots of setup examples the level is down near 3%.


 Looking at the waterfall and db levels I did not see a difference from 18 to 50 on any signal on my waterfall.  I know that is not a scientific measurement.


My question is what is the recommended audio level for DM780,?


Steve

VA3FLF

2301





Audio Level with DM780

Steve VA3FLF/KM4FLF
 

I posted this on HRD group a while back and never got a response. For those of you that use HRD/DM780, what do you have as your normal audio level with DM780?


_____________________________

This is something I never really paid close attention too until I was playing around with audio levels. I followed a little recommended procedure for adjusting sound card levels with WSJTX. The goal is to get the output levels between +30- and +50 db on the scale. So I had to adjust my sound card levels and USB output on my rig as well. 


Just for kicks I went back to look at DM780 and found my audio bar at about 14%. I had been running my audio level into DM780 around 50%.  I checked the manual and I did not see a recommended level, however I did notice on a couple of screen shots of setup examples the level is down near 3%.


 Looking at the waterfall and db levels I did not see a difference from 18 to 50 on any signal on my waterfall.  I know that is not a scientific measurement.


My question is what is the recommended audio level for DM780,?


Steve

VA3FLF

2301




Re: Triple Play Low Band Sprint scoring

Matthew King <mrk.twg@...>
 

I've updated the webpage at: 

This is the new wording. If y'all think it should be changed, let me know, but I think it conveys the point was made in the Yahoo Groups post that Steve posted (thanks, Steve!)

Work a six hr block EACH UTC DAY, beginning at the time of your choosing, and work six continuous hours from that point on.

You may have only one "block" or "block portion" on any given day.

The scorer only allows one "start point" on each UTC date.

For scoring, your six hour blocks will begin with the hour that you select on the scorer page and continue for the next 6 hours.


Y'all be good!


73

Matt King
AK4MK - 070 #1708
PODXS 070 Club Executive Director


Virus-free. www.avast.com

On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 6:48 PM, Bill Garwood n4gbk@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
 

Thanks Steve for the link.


Here's part of where the confusion comes from, the 40 meter contest is a 6 hour sprint but it allows for 6 hours of continuous operation before and after 0000 UTC as part of the 6 hour block.  Of course it is a "one day" event and not a three day event but it uses a similar scorer.


 http://www.podxs070.com/o7o-club-sponsored-contests/40m-firecracker-sprint


Enuf said...I hope everyone has fun in the contest.


73 and Happy Radio!


Bill N4GBK FM16 in NC

Who: All licensed radio amateurs. Look for Ø7Ø Club members in the event. Learn more about this esteemed organization on its web page: www.podxs070.com


From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of Stephen Melachrinos melachri@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 3:53:59 PM
To: 070@...

Subject: Re: [070] Triple Play Low Band Sprint scoring
 
 

Bill -


Now that you mention it, I do remember that issue. And I do agree that the wording isn't clear, but that's the way the official scorer works.

Unfortunately the web site has not been updated to reflect the correct interpretation, which was documented on the contest reflector



Steve
W3HF




-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Garwood n4gbk@... [070] <070@...>
To: 070 <070@...>
Sent: Sat, Nov 4, 2017 10:43 am
Subject: Re: [070] Triple Play Low Band Sprint scoring



Hello,

There was some confusion by myself and others on this list last year about the scoring and operating hours in this contest.  Some of us made QSOs that did not count in the scoring.   It might be beneficial ahead of the contest to clarify how this works. 

For example, if you start at 0000 UTC on Saturday November 11, (which is Friday night local time here on the east coast) then your 6 hour block for calendar day November 11 is from the 0000 to 0559.  If you start back up Saturday evening around sunset local time, it is at 2200 UTC still on November 11, any contacts made before 2359 UTC will not count in the scoring as you have already completed your 6 hour block for the calendar day of November 11 UTC.  Any other QSOs are entered as a check log.  Same goes for November 12/ 13.  The problem with that is there are some DX and multipliers around local sunset that will likely get missed.  You could always start each day at 1800 and but that would miss any potential QSOs around sunset on Friday night.

The problem is the rules state: "Operate 6 hours each UTC night, starting at the time of your choosing on each night."  

I think night time here on the east coast would begin at sunset and not 0000 UTC.  What is a UTC night?

Maybe the rules should state operate up to 6 consecutive hours in each of the three calendar days.

Can someone please verify and clarify.

I hope I'm not being a pain but I'm not the only one who was confused by this last year.

Respectfully,

Bill Garwood N4GBK in NC




From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of n7we1980@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Friday, November 3, 2017 5:59:55 PM
To: 070@...
Subject: [070] It’s Coming! - Triple Play Low Band Sprint
 
 
Mark your calendars.  The 2017 Triple Play Low Band Sprint is coming November 11 0000 UTC to November 13 2359 UTC.  This contest is on 40m, 80m, and 160m only and has a very unusual format.  The contest runs for 3 consecutive days and you can select your 6 hour operating slot each day.  You don’t have to use the same time slot each day.  Makes a great accommodation for propagation variation, work schedules, other commitments that limit when you can get on air! Your final score is the sum of your operations in each of the 6 hour time blocks. You can play one day, two days, or all three!
 
Details of the contest can be found HERE.  Results of last year’s contest can be found HERE.
 
Rick Butz
N7WE - 070 #1602
PODXS 070 Public Relations Director





73 Magazine, etc.

Jerry N9AVY
 

No doubt about it 73 was by far the best around.  Wayne wasn't afraid to tackle controversial issues at the time and that is why he enjoyed a huge readership.  Many hams are independent types and like a bit of controversy. Reading QST is sometimes as exciting as a bowl of gruel.
 
I recall an article which Wayne published on the "blue boxes" which allowed college students to make free landline calls by taking advantage of Ma Bells own system. It was illegal (theft of service) at the time and Ma Bell eventually found better technology and rendered "blue boxes" useless. Wayne article sure stirred the pot.
 
There were also many easy construction projects like over several months a series ran on converting CB radios over to 10m ... still have a couple laying around here ... another project I built was a simple phone patch which proved very useful when those annoying phone calls from telemarketers came in ,  I'd have a busy phone/cw band
running  and would switch it to the phone lines... they'd hang up and go away. Heh-heh.

I'd suggest going to read back issues of 73 magazine and see what ham radio was like back in the hey day when CBers were entering this hobby at the rate of 7000 per month. https://archive.org/details/73-magazine
 
 
Jerry N9AVY


From: "Christopher J LaRue NO7E no7e@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Sunday, November 5, 2017 7:00 AM
Subject: Re: [070] Re: South Dakota

 
Wayne Green and 73 were by far the best on the market.  Wayne was fun to read, honest and truly was a major thorn in the ARRL while being a life member and a one time elected officer.  All of the issues are available to read online for free here https://archive.org/details/73-magazine

I still subscribe to CQ but as I am visually impaired I only get the digital edition it is hard to read the paper version for me.  It gets released on the 1st of the month and they send an email that it is available on the Zinio app right away.  I have heard several complaints about the paper version arriving up to 7-8 weeks later though. 
73 de Chris NO7E
    
   .




Re: South Dakota

Chris J LaRue NO7E
 

Wayne Green and 73 were by far the best on the market.  Wayne was fun to read, honest and truly was a major thorn in the ARRL while being a life member and a one time elected officer.  All of the issues are available to read online for free here https://archive.org/details/73-magazine


I still subscribe to CQ but as I am visually impaired I only get the digital edition it is hard to read the paper version for me.  It gets released on the 1st of the month and they send an email that it is available on the Zinio app right away.  I have heard several complaints about the paper version arriving up to 7-8 weeks later though. 

73 de Chris NO7E
On 11/4/17 9:14 AM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] wrote:

 
Picked up a copy of CW every once in a while over the years, but it wasn't the same as it used to be.  Construction articles were few and far between and editorial content was boring.
 
Now  73 was a great magazine and outshined both CQ and QST. HR was also a bit boring - no pictures, but some good articles.
 
Met Wayne Green, W2NSD/1, on a couple occasions ... once at  Dayton and another time at local hamfest.  Great guy !  He was far ahead of his time in ham radio  and computing; also, a bit whacky at times, but I think that was a sign of genius. He was also a thorn in the side of ARRL, yet he was a member of ARRL all those years. If he could see what's going on with ARRL today, he'd probably have to print his editorials on flame-proof paper ! The beginning of the end was Wayne's divorce where his Ex  got a lot his assets including Byte magazine and one might say she really took a Byte out of Wayne !
 
CQ during the past year has been in trouble financially with very late or missed issues.  Think it started with December 2016 issue as many local DXers were complaining on about magazines not arriving for weeks, if at all. Sorry to see a once good publication fall upon hard times.  But such is ham radio these days as more and more content is available online.
 
Jerry  n9avy
 
 
 



From: "'Mike Besemer' mwbesemer@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 10:23 AM
Subject: RE: [070] Re: South Dakota

 
I miss 73 magazine. Wayne’s editorials were always entertaining – and often wacky!

Good construction articles too.

I subscribed to the digital edition of CQ several year ago, but found myself not reading it. I much prefer a paper copy to digital print; might have to subscribe again.

Mike
WM4B
#348

From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 11:03 AM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] Re: South Dakota

Thought CQ went the way of 73 magazine....

________________________________________
From: "'ljl2002@...' joe_molon@... [070]" <070@...>
To: "070@..." <070@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: [070] Re: South Dakota

PODXS Group,

There is a very interesting article in the September issue of CQ that deals with the problem of one station not seeing the other.
It is : Is HF Propagation Reciprocal? by Thomas Hood NW7US. It explains why the RF doesn't always go both ways on the same path.

I guess what is good for the goose is not always good for the gander when dealing with HF.

73
Joe
KA1PPV #1482

On Friday, November 3, 2017 8:18 PM, "boat.anchor@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:

Charles
TU 4 QSO
Barry

---In 070@..., wrote :
I see him but he can't see me
On Nov 3, 2017, at 6:59 PM, "boat.anchor@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:

Not seen here but CQn
Barry
VB7150

---In 070@..., wrote :

Anyone needs South Dakota AE0WM is on 20 meters
KI4VMK # 2542





Re: South Dakota

ljl2002@att.net
 

Mike,

Yep.  I prefer the printed version.  Don't want to drag electronics everywhere I go. 

Jerry,

Cmon man!  You're kiddin me!
Wait a minute. I have to duck outside for a sec..................
All OK.  It's still there besides I have an excellent alarm system.  Our doggie just turned 8 years old today but she still won't let
anyone in without a wake-up call.

Actually sigs this evening were pretty good on 20m.  I noticed that the geo field was very quiet but I know that it won't last.

Joe
KA1PPV  #1482



On Saturday, November 4, 2017 1:50 PM, "Jerry n9avy@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:


 
Joe:
 
Beware ! There has been reported  there is a gang of antennas thieves around CT area who are stealing antennas in the middle of the night and are selling them on Ebay .
 
My late Uncle had a fix for broken wire antennas... he put an insulator in at every antenna break ... it looked like Xmas lights on his 80m dipole ! 
 
Jerry  n9avy



From: "'ljl2002@...' joe_molon@... [070]" <070@...>
To: "070@..." <070@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [070] Re: South Dakota

 
CQ is alive and well and I enjoy reading the paper version.

When condx are bad they are bad.

I've often wondered whether I have an antenna out there or not.  Sometimes I go out and look just to give myself peace of mind.

I'm sure that Red/Green would have used duct tape.  Fix yer antenna, eh?

Joe
KA1PPV  #1482



On Saturday, November 4, 2017 12:39 PM, "'Mike Besemer' mwbesemer@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:


 
And apparently, all that colloidal silver Wayne preached about didn’t do him much good.

Mike
WM4B

From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 12:15 PM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] Re: South Dakota

Picked up a copy of CW every once in a while over the years, but it wasn't the same as it used to be. Construction articles were few and far between and editorial content was boring.

Now 73 was a great magazine and outshined both CQ and QST. HR was also a bit boring - no pictures, but some good articles.

Met Wayne Green, W2NSD/1, on a couple occasions ... once at Dayton and another time at local hamfest. Great guy ! He was far ahead of his time in ham radio and computing; also, a bit whacky at times, but I think that was a sign of genius. He was also a thorn in the side of ARRL, yet he was a member of ARRL all those years. If he could see what's going on with ARRL today, he'd probably have to print his editorials on flame-proof paper ! The beginning of the end was Wayne's divorce where his Ex got a lot his assets including Byte magazine and one might say she really took a Byte out of Wayne !

CQ during the past year has been in trouble financially with very late or missed issues. Think it started with December 2016 issue as many local DXers were complaining on about magazines not arriving for weeks, if at all. Sorry to see a once good publication fall upon hard times. But such is ham radio these days as more and more content is available online.

Jerry n9avy




________________________________________
From: "'Mike Besemer' mwbesemer@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 10:23 AM
Subject: RE: [070] Re: South Dakota

I miss 73 magazine. Wayne’s editorials were always entertaining – and often wacky!

Good construction articles too.

I subscribed to the digital edition of CQ several year ago, but found myself not reading it. I much prefer a paper copy to digital print; might have to subscribe again.

Mike
WM4B
#348

From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 11:03 AM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] Re: South Dakota

Thought CQ went the way of 73 magazine....

________________________________________
From: "'ljl2002@...' joe_molon@... [070]" <070@...>
To: "070@..." <070@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: [070] Re: South Dakota

PODXS Group,

There is a very interesting article in the September issue of CQ that deals with the problem of one station not seeing the other.
It is : Is HF Propagation Reciprocal? by Thomas Hood NW7US. It explains why the RF doesn't always go both ways on the same path.

I guess what is good for the goose is not always good for the gander when dealing with HF.

73
Joe
KA1PPV #1482

On Friday, November 3, 2017 8:18 PM, "boat.anchor@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:

Charles
TU 4 QSO
Barry

---In 070@..., wrote :
I see him but he can't see me
On Nov 3, 2017, at 6:59 PM, "boat.anchor@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:

Not seen here but CQn
Barry
VB7150

---In 070@..., wrote :

Anyone needs South Dakota AE0WM is on 20 meters
KI4VMK # 2542








Re: Triple Play Low Band Sprint scoring

Bill Garwood
 

Thanks Steve for the link.


Here's part of where the confusion comes from, the 40 meter contest is a 6 hour sprint but it allows for 6 hours of continuous operation before and after 0000 UTC as part of the 6 hour block.  Of course it is a "one day" event and not a three day event but it uses a similar scorer.


 http://www.podxs070.com/o7o-club-sponsored-contests/40m-firecracker-sprint


Enuf said...I hope everyone has fun in the contest.


73 and Happy Radio!


Bill N4GBK FM16 in NC

www.podxs070.com
Who: All licensed radio amateurs. Look for Ø7Ø Club members in the event. Learn more about this esteemed organization on its web page: www.podxs070.com


From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of Stephen Melachrinos melachri@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 3:53:59 PM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] Triple Play Low Band Sprint scoring
 
 

Bill -


Now that you mention it, I do remember that issue. And I do agree that the wording isn't clear, but that's the way the official scorer works.

Unfortunately the web site has not been updated to reflect the correct interpretation, which was documented on the contest reflector

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/070_contest/conversations/messages/5383


Steve
W3HF




-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Garwood n4gbk@... [070] <070@...>
To: 070 <070@...>
Sent: Sat, Nov 4, 2017 10:43 am
Subject: Re: [070] Triple Play Low Band Sprint scoring



Hello,

There was some confusion by myself and others on this list last year about the scoring and operating hours in this contest.  Some of us made QSOs that did not count in the scoring.   It might be beneficial ahead of the contest to clarify how this works. 

For example, if you start at 0000 UTC on Saturday November 11, (which is Friday night local time here on the east coast) then your 6 hour block for calendar day November 11 is from the 0000 to 0559.  If you start back up Saturday evening around sunset local time, it is at 2200 UTC still on November 11, any contacts made before 2359 UTC will not count in the scoring as you have already completed your 6 hour block for the calendar day of November 11 UTC.  Any other QSOs are entered as a check log.  Same goes for November 12/ 13.  The problem with that is there are some DX and multipliers around local sunset that will likely get missed.  You could always start each day at 1800 and but that would miss any potential QSOs around sunset on Friday night.

The problem is the rules state: "Operate 6 hours each UTC night, starting at the time of your choosing on each night."  

I think night time here on the east coast would begin at sunset and not 0000 UTC.  What is a UTC night?

Maybe the rules should state operate up to 6 consecutive hours in each of the three calendar days.

Can someone please verify and clarify.

I hope I'm not being a pain but I'm not the only one who was confused by this last year.

Respectfully,

Bill Garwood N4GBK in NC




From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of n7we1980@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Friday, November 3, 2017 5:59:55 PM
To: 070@...
Subject: [070] It’s Coming! - Triple Play Low Band Sprint
 
 
Mark your calendars.  The 2017 Triple Play Low Band Sprint is coming November 11 0000 UTC to November 13 2359 UTC.  This contest is on 40m, 80m, and 160m only and has a very unusual format.  The contest runs for 3 consecutive days and you can select your 6 hour operating slot each day.  You don’t have to use the same time slot each day.  Makes a great accommodation for propagation variation, work schedules, other commitments that limit when you can get on air! Your final score is the sum of your operations in each of the 6 hour time blocks. You can play one day, two days, or all three!
 
Details of the contest can be found HERE.  Results of last year’s contest can be found HERE.
 
Rick Butz
N7WE - 070 #1602
PODXS 070 Public Relations Director




Re: 15 meters

Charles Odom <ki4vmk@...>
 

He's running 300 watts into a 4 element beam at 105 feet, he can be seen at least. I worked him with 25 watts.

On Nov 4, 2017, at 5:35 PM, "Jerry n9avy@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:
 

Already worked him a couple years ago.  His signal seems to be right next to the oscillation I always have on 15m and a couple other bands.  Rats !
 
Jerry  N9AVY



From: "Charles Odom ki4vmk@... [070]" <070@...>
To: PODXS <070@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 5:08 PM
Subject: [070] 15 meters

 

JM7OLW, Japan is on 15 meters. 21070 + 800 just worked him



Re: 15 meters

Jerry N9AVY
 

Already worked him a couple years ago.  His signal seems to be right next to the oscillation I always have on 15m and a couple other bands.  Rats !
 
Jerry  N9AVY



From: "Charles Odom ki4vmk@... [070]" <070@...>
To: PODXS <070@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 5:08 PM
Subject: [070] 15 meters

 

JM7OLW, Japan is on 15 meters. 21070 + 800 just worked him



15 meters

Charles Odom <ki4vmk@...>
 


JM7OLW, Japan is on 15 meters. 21070 + 800 just worked him


Re: South Dakota

Jerry N9AVY
 

Joe:
 
Beware ! There has been reported  there is a gang of antennas thieves around CT area who are stealing antennas in the middle of the night and are selling them on Ebay .
 
My late Uncle had a fix for broken wire antennas... he put an insulator in at every antenna break ... it looked like Xmas lights on his 80m dipole ! 
 
Jerry  n9avy



From: "'ljl2002@...' joe_molon@... [070]" <070@...>
To: "070@..." <070@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 12:19 PM
Subject: Re: [070] Re: South Dakota

 
CQ is alive and well and I enjoy reading the paper version.

When condx are bad they are bad.

I've often wondered whether I have an antenna out there or not.  Sometimes I go out and look just to give myself peace of mind.

I'm sure that Red/Green would have used duct tape.  Fix yer antenna, eh?

Joe
KA1PPV  #1482



On Saturday, November 4, 2017 12:39 PM, "'Mike Besemer' mwbesemer@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:


 
And apparently, all that colloidal silver Wayne preached about didn’t do him much good.

Mike
WM4B

From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 12:15 PM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] Re: South Dakota

Picked up a copy of CW every once in a while over the years, but it wasn't the same as it used to be. Construction articles were few and far between and editorial content was boring.

Now 73 was a great magazine and outshined both CQ and QST. HR was also a bit boring - no pictures, but some good articles.

Met Wayne Green, W2NSD/1, on a couple occasions ... once at Dayton and another time at local hamfest. Great guy ! He was far ahead of his time in ham radio and computing; also, a bit whacky at times, but I think that was a sign of genius. He was also a thorn in the side of ARRL, yet he was a member of ARRL all those years. If he could see what's going on with ARRL today, he'd probably have to print his editorials on flame-proof paper ! The beginning of the end was Wayne's divorce where his Ex got a lot his assets including Byte magazine and one might say she really took a Byte out of Wayne !

CQ during the past year has been in trouble financially with very late or missed issues. Think it started with December 2016 issue as many local DXers were complaining on about magazines not arriving for weeks, if at all. Sorry to see a once good publication fall upon hard times. But such is ham radio these days as more and more content is available online.

Jerry n9avy




________________________________________
From: "'Mike Besemer' mwbesemer@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 10:23 AM
Subject: RE: [070] Re: South Dakota

I miss 73 magazine. Wayne’s editorials were always entertaining – and often wacky!

Good construction articles too.

I subscribed to the digital edition of CQ several year ago, but found myself not reading it. I much prefer a paper copy to digital print; might have to subscribe again.

Mike
WM4B
#348

From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 11:03 AM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] Re: South Dakota

Thought CQ went the way of 73 magazine....

________________________________________
From: "'ljl2002@...' joe_molon@... [070]" <070@...>
To: "070@..." <070@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: [070] Re: South Dakota

PODXS Group,

There is a very interesting article in the September issue of CQ that deals with the problem of one station not seeing the other.
It is : Is HF Propagation Reciprocal? by Thomas Hood NW7US. It explains why the RF doesn't always go both ways on the same path.

I guess what is good for the goose is not always good for the gander when dealing with HF.

73
Joe
KA1PPV #1482

On Friday, November 3, 2017 8:18 PM, "boat.anchor@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:

Charles
TU 4 QSO
Barry

---In 070@..., wrote :
I see him but he can't see me
On Nov 3, 2017, at 6:59 PM, "boat.anchor@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:

Not seen here but CQn
Barry
VB7150

---In 070@..., wrote :

Anyone needs South Dakota AE0WM is on 20 meters
KI4VMK # 2542






Re: South Dakota

ljl2002@att.net
 

CQ is alive and well and I enjoy reading the paper version.

When condx are bad they are bad.

I've often wondered whether I have an antenna out there or not.  Sometimes I go out and look just to give myself peace of mind.

I'm sure that Red/Green would have used duct tape.  Fix yer antenna, eh?

Joe
KA1PPV  #1482



On Saturday, November 4, 2017 12:39 PM, "'Mike Besemer' mwbesemer@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:


 
And apparently, all that colloidal silver Wayne preached about didn’t do him much good.

Mike
WM4B

From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 12:15 PM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] Re: South Dakota

Picked up a copy of CW every once in a while over the years, but it wasn't the same as it used to be. Construction articles were few and far between and editorial content was boring.

Now 73 was a great magazine and outshined both CQ and QST. HR was also a bit boring - no pictures, but some good articles.

Met Wayne Green, W2NSD/1, on a couple occasions ... once at Dayton and another time at local hamfest. Great guy ! He was far ahead of his time in ham radio and computing; also, a bit whacky at times, but I think that was a sign of genius. He was also a thorn in the side of ARRL, yet he was a member of ARRL all those years. If he could see what's going on with ARRL today, he'd probably have to print his editorials on flame-proof paper ! The beginning of the end was Wayne's divorce where his Ex got a lot his assets including Byte magazine and one might say she really took a Byte out of Wayne !

CQ during the past year has been in trouble financially with very late or missed issues. Think it started with December 2016 issue as many local DXers were complaining on about magazines not arriving for weeks, if at all. Sorry to see a once good publication fall upon hard times. But such is ham radio these days as more and more content is available online.

Jerry n9avy




________________________________________
From: "'Mike Besemer' mwbesemer@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 10:23 AM
Subject: RE: [070] Re: South Dakota

I miss 73 magazine. Wayne’s editorials were always entertaining – and often wacky!

Good construction articles too.

I subscribed to the digital edition of CQ several year ago, but found myself not reading it. I much prefer a paper copy to digital print; might have to subscribe again.

Mike
WM4B
#348

From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 11:03 AM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] Re: South Dakota

Thought CQ went the way of 73 magazine....

________________________________________
From: "'ljl2002@...' joe_molon@... [070]" <070@...>
To: "070@..." <070@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: [070] Re: South Dakota

PODXS Group,

There is a very interesting article in the September issue of CQ that deals with the problem of one station not seeing the other.
It is : Is HF Propagation Reciprocal? by Thomas Hood NW7US. It explains why the RF doesn't always go both ways on the same path.

I guess what is good for the goose is not always good for the gander when dealing with HF.

73
Joe
KA1PPV #1482

On Friday, November 3, 2017 8:18 PM, "boat.anchor@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:

Charles
TU 4 QSO
Barry

---In 070@..., wrote :
I see him but he can't see me
On Nov 3, 2017, at 6:59 PM, "boat.anchor@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:

Not seen here but CQn
Barry
VB7150

---In 070@..., wrote :

Anyone needs South Dakota AE0WM is on 20 meters
KI4VMK # 2542




Re: South Dakota

Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@...>
 

And apparently, all that colloidal silver Wayne preached about didn’t do him much good.

Mike
WM4B

From: 070@yahoogroups.com [mailto:070@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 12:15 PM
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [070] Re: South Dakota


Picked up a copy of CW every once in a while over the years, but it wasn't the same as it used to be. Construction articles were few and far between and editorial content was boring.

Now 73 was a great magazine and outshined both CQ and QST. HR was also a bit boring - no pictures, but some good articles.

Met Wayne Green, W2NSD/1, on a couple occasions ... once at Dayton and another time at local hamfest. Great guy ! He was far ahead of his time in ham radio and computing; also, a bit whacky at times, but I think that was a sign of genius. He was also a thorn in the side of ARRL, yet he was a member of ARRL all those years. If he could see what's going on with ARRL today, he'd probably have to print his editorials on flame-proof paper ! The beginning of the end was Wayne's divorce where his Ex got a lot his assets including Byte magazine and one might say she really took a Byte out of Wayne !

CQ during the past year has been in trouble financially with very late or missed issues. Think it started with December 2016 issue as many local DXers were complaining on about magazines not arriving for weeks, if at all. Sorry to see a once good publication fall upon hard times. But such is ham radio these days as more and more content is available online.

Jerry n9avy




________________________________________
From: "'Mike Besemer' mwbesemer@cox.net [070]" <070@yahoogroups.com>
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 10:23 AM
Subject: RE: [070] Re: South Dakota


I miss 73 magazine. Wayne’s editorials were always entertaining – and often wacky!

Good construction articles too.

I subscribed to the digital edition of CQ several year ago, but found myself not reading it. I much prefer a paper copy to digital print; might have to subscribe again.

Mike
WM4B
#348

From: 070@yahoogroups.com [mailto:070@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 11:03 AM
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [070] Re: South Dakota

Thought CQ went the way of 73 magazine....

________________________________________
From: "'ljl2002@att.net' joe_molon@yahoo.com [070]" <070@yahoogroups.com>
To: "070@yahoogroups.com" <070@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: [070] Re: South Dakota

PODXS Group,

There is a very interesting article in the September issue of CQ that deals with the problem of one station not seeing the other.
It is : Is HF Propagation Reciprocal? by Thomas Hood NW7US. It explains why the RF doesn't always go both ways on the same path.

I guess what is good for the goose is not always good for the gander when dealing with HF.

73
Joe
KA1PPV #1482

On Friday, November 3, 2017 8:18 PM, "boat.anchor@yahoo.ca [070]" <070@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Charles
TU 4 QSO
Barry

---In 070@yahoogroups.com, <ki4vmk@...> wrote :
I see him but he can't see me
On Nov 3, 2017, at 6:59 PM, "boat.anchor@... [070]" <070@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Not seen here but CQn
Barry
VB7150

---In 070@yahoogroups.com, <ki4vmk@...> wrote :

Anyone needs South Dakota AE0WM is on 20 meters
KI4VMK # 2542


Re: South Dakota

Randy True
 

Yep, L can remember picking up 73 on the news stand back in the 70's CB craze.

S9 was another.


Randy W4RTT




From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of Jerry n9avy@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 12:14 PM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] Re: South Dakota
 
 

Picked up a copy of CW every once in a while over the years, but it wasn't the same as it used to be.  Construction articles were few and far between and editorial content was boring.
 
Now  73 was a great magazine and outshined both CQ and QST. HR was also a bit boring - no pictures, but some good articles.
 
Met Wayne Green, W2NSD/1, on a couple occasions ... once at  Dayton and another time at local hamfest.  Great guy !  He was far ahead of his time in ham radio  and computing; also, a bit whacky at times, but I think that was a sign of genius. He was also a thorn in the side of ARRL, yet he was a member of ARRL all those years. If he could see what's going on with ARRL today, he'd probably have to print his editorials on flame-proof paper ! The beginning of the end was Wayne's divorce where his Ex  got a lot his assets including Byte magazine and one might say she really took a Byte out of Wayne !
 
CQ during the past year has been in trouble financially with very late or missed issues.  Think it started with December 2016 issue as many local DXers were complaining on about magazines not arriving for weeks, if at all. Sorry to see a once good publication fall upon hard times.  But such is ham radio these days as more and more content is available online.
 
Jerry  n9avy
 
 
 



From: "'Mike Besemer' mwbesemer@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 10:23 AM
Subject: RE: [070] Re: South Dakota

 
I miss 73 magazine. Wayne’s editorials were always entertaining – and often wacky!

Good construction articles too.

I subscribed to the digital edition of CQ several year ago, but found myself not reading it. I much prefer a paper copy to digital print; might have to subscribe again.

Mike
WM4B
#348

From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 11:03 AM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] Re: South Dakota

Thought CQ went the way of 73 magazine....

________________________________________
From: "'ljl2002@...' joe_molon@... [070]" <070@...>
To: "070@..." <070@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: [070] Re: South Dakota

PODXS Group,

There is a very interesting article in the September issue of CQ that deals with the problem of one station not seeing the other.
It is : Is HF Propagation Reciprocal? by Thomas Hood NW7US. It explains why the RF doesn't always go both ways on the same path.

I guess what is good for the goose is not always good for the gander when dealing with HF.

73
Joe
KA1PPV #1482

On Friday, November 3, 2017 8:18 PM, "boat.anchor@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:

Charles
TU 4 QSO
Barry

---In 070@..., wrote :
I see him but he can't see me
On Nov 3, 2017, at 6:59 PM, "boat.anchor@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:

Not seen here but CQn
Barry
VB7150

---In 070@..., wrote :

Anyone needs South Dakota AE0WM is on 20 meters
KI4VMK # 2542




Re: South Dakota

Jerry N9AVY
 

Picked up a copy of CW every once in a while over the years, but it wasn't the same as it used to be.  Construction articles were few and far between and editorial content was boring.
 
Now  73 was a great magazine and outshined both CQ and QST. HR was also a bit boring - no pictures, but some good articles.
 
Met Wayne Green, W2NSD/1, on a couple occasions ... once at  Dayton and another time at local hamfest.  Great guy !  He was far ahead of his time in ham radio  and computing; also, a bit whacky at times, but I think that was a sign of genius. He was also a thorn in the side of ARRL, yet he was a member of ARRL all those years. If he could see what's going on with ARRL today, he'd probably have to print his editorials on flame-proof paper ! The beginning of the end was Wayne's divorce where his Ex  got a lot his assets including Byte magazine and one might say she really took a Byte out of Wayne !
 
CQ during the past year has been in trouble financially with very late or missed issues.  Think it started with December 2016 issue as many local DXers were complaining on about magazines not arriving for weeks, if at all. Sorry to see a once good publication fall upon hard times.  But such is ham radio these days as more and more content is available online.
 
Jerry  n9avy
 
 
 



From: "'Mike Besemer' mwbesemer@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 10:23 AM
Subject: RE: [070] Re: South Dakota

 
I miss 73 magazine. Wayne’s editorials were always entertaining – and often wacky!

Good construction articles too.

I subscribed to the digital edition of CQ several year ago, but found myself not reading it. I much prefer a paper copy to digital print; might have to subscribe again.

Mike
WM4B
#348

From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 11:03 AM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] Re: South Dakota

Thought CQ went the way of 73 magazine....

________________________________________
From: "'ljl2002@...' joe_molon@... [070]" <070@...>
To: "070@..." <070@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: [070] Re: South Dakota

PODXS Group,

There is a very interesting article in the September issue of CQ that deals with the problem of one station not seeing the other.
It is : Is HF Propagation Reciprocal? by Thomas Hood NW7US. It explains why the RF doesn't always go both ways on the same path.

I guess what is good for the goose is not always good for the gander when dealing with HF.

73
Joe
KA1PPV #1482

On Friday, November 3, 2017 8:18 PM, "boat.anchor@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:

Charles
TU 4 QSO
Barry

---In 070@..., wrote :
I see him but he can't see me
On Nov 3, 2017, at 6:59 PM, "boat.anchor@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:

Not seen here but CQn
Barry
VB7150

---In 070@..., wrote :

Anyone needs South Dakota AE0WM is on 20 meters
KI4VMK # 2542




Re: South Dakota

Randy True
 

Don't know. But a phone call10 days ago got the usual, well, were running behind. And a promise of the October issue, which I haven't seen.


Randy W4RTT




From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of 'Mike Besemer' mwbesemer@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 11:50 AM
To: 070@...
Subject: RE: [070] Re: South Dakota
 
 

Printed, I assume?

 

Mike

WM4B

 

From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 11:40 AM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] Re: South Dakota

 

 

Good luck,

I've been waiting 2 1/2 months for my subscription to start.

 

Randy W4RTT

 


From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of 'Mike Besemer' mwbesemer@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 11:23 AM
To: 070@...
Subject: RE: [070] Re: South Dakota

 

 

I miss 73 magazine. Wayne’s editorials were always entertaining – and often wacky!

Good construction articles too.

I subscribed to the digital edition of CQ several year ago, but found myself not reading it. I much prefer a paper copy to digital print; might have to subscribe again.

Mike
WM4B
#348

From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 11:03 AM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] Re: South Dakota

Thought CQ went the way of 73 magazine....

________________________________________
From: "'ljl2002@...' joe_molon@... [070]" <070@...>
To: "070@..." <070@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: [070] Re: South Dakota

PODXS Group,

There is a very interesting article in the September issue of CQ that deals with the problem of one station not seeing the other.
It is : Is HF Propagation Reciprocal? by Thomas Hood NW7US. It explains why the RF doesn't always go both ways on the same path.

I guess what is good for the goose is not always good for the gander when dealing with HF.

73
Joe
KA1PPV #1482

On Friday, November 3, 2017 8:18 PM, "boat.anchor@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:

Charles
TU 4 QSO
Barry

---In 070@..., <ki4vmk@...> wrote :
I see him but he can't see me
On Nov 3, 2017, at 6:59 PM, "boat.anchor@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:

Not seen here but CQn
Barry
VB7150

---In 070@..., <ki4vmk@...> wrote :

Anyone needs South Dakota AE0WM is on 20 meters
KI4VMK # 2542


Re: Triple Play Low Band Sprint scoring

Stephen Melachrinos
 

Bill -

Now that you mention it, I do remember that issue. And I do agree that the wording isn't clear, but that's the way the official scorer works.

Unfortunately the web site has not been updated to reflect the correct interpretation, which was documented on the contest reflector

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/070_contest/conversations/messages/5383


Steve
W3HF




-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Garwood n4gbk@... [070] <070@...>
To: 070 <070@...>
Sent: Sat, Nov 4, 2017 10:43 am
Subject: Re: [070] Triple Play Low Band Sprint scoring



Hello,

There was some confusion by myself and others on this list last year about the scoring and operating hours in this contest.  Some of us made QSOs that did not count in the scoring.   It might be beneficial ahead of the contest to clarify how this works. 

For example, if you start at 0000 UTC on Saturday November 11, (which is Friday night local time here on the east coast) then your 6 hour block for calendar day November 11 is from the 0000 to 0559.  If you start back up Saturday evening around sunset local time, it is at 2200 UTC still on November 11, any contacts made before 2359 UTC will not count in the scoring as you have already completed your 6 hour block for the calendar day of November 11 UTC.  Any other QSOs are entered as a check log.  Same goes for November 12/ 13.  The problem with that is there are some DX and multipliers around local sunset that will likely get missed.  You could always start each day at 1800 and but that would miss any potential QSOs around sunset on Friday night.

The problem is the rules state: "Operate 6 hours each UTC night, starting at the time of your choosing on each night."  

I think night time here on the east coast would begin at sunset and not 0000 UTC.  What is a UTC night?

Maybe the rules should state operate up to 6 consecutive hours in each of the three calendar days.

Can someone please verify and clarify.

I hope I'm not being a pain but I'm not the only one who was confused by this last year.

Respectfully,

Bill Garwood N4GBK in NC




From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of n7we1980@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Friday, November 3, 2017 5:59:55 PM
To: 070@...
Subject: [070] It’s Coming! - Triple Play Low Band Sprint
 
 
Mark your calendars.  The 2017 Triple Play Low Band Sprint is coming November 11 0000 UTC to November 13 2359 UTC.  This contest is on 40m, 80m, and 160m only and has a very unusual format.  The contest runs for 3 consecutive days and you can select your 6 hour operating slot each day.  You don’t have to use the same time slot each day.  Makes a great accommodation for propagation variation, work schedules, other commitments that limit when you can get on air! Your final score is the sum of your operations in each of the 6 hour time blocks. You can play one day, two days, or all three!
 
Details of the contest can be found HERE.  Results of last year’s contest can be found HERE.
 
Rick Butz
N7WE - 070 #1602
PODXS 070 Public Relations Director




Re: South Dakota

Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@...>
 

Printed, I assume?

 

Mike

WM4B

 

From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 11:40 AM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] Re: South Dakota

 

 

Good luck,

I've been waiting 2 1/2 months for my subscription to start.

 

Randy W4RTT

 


From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of 'Mike Besemer' mwbesemer@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 11:23 AM
To: 070@...
Subject: RE: [070] Re: South Dakota

 

 

I miss 73 magazine. Wayne’s editorials were always entertaining – and often wacky!

Good construction articles too.

I subscribed to the digital edition of CQ several year ago, but found myself not reading it. I much prefer a paper copy to digital print; might have to subscribe again.

Mike
WM4B
#348

From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 11:03 AM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] Re: South Dakota

Thought CQ went the way of 73 magazine....

________________________________________
From: "'ljl2002@...' joe_molon@... [070]" <070@...>
To: "070@..." <070@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: [070] Re: South Dakota

PODXS Group,

There is a very interesting article in the September issue of CQ that deals with the problem of one station not seeing the other.
It is : Is HF Propagation Reciprocal? by Thomas Hood NW7US. It explains why the RF doesn't always go both ways on the same path.

I guess what is good for the goose is not always good for the gander when dealing with HF.

73
Joe
KA1PPV #1482

On Friday, November 3, 2017 8:18 PM, "boat.anchor@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:

Charles
TU 4 QSO
Barry

---In 070@..., <ki4vmk@...> wrote :
I see him but he can't see me
On Nov 3, 2017, at 6:59 PM, "boat.anchor@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:

Not seen here but CQn
Barry
VB7150

---In 070@..., <ki4vmk@...> wrote :

Anyone needs South Dakota AE0WM is on 20 meters
KI4VMK # 2542


Re: South Dakota

Randy True
 

Good luck,

I've been waiting 2 1/2 months for my subscription to start.


Randy W4RTT




From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of 'Mike Besemer' mwbesemer@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 11:23 AM
To: 070@...
Subject: RE: [070] Re: South Dakota
 
 

I miss 73 magazine. Wayne’s editorials were always entertaining – and often wacky!

Good construction articles too.

I subscribed to the digital edition of CQ several year ago, but found myself not reading it. I much prefer a paper copy to digital print; might have to subscribe again.

Mike
WM4B
#348

From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 11:03 AM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] Re: South Dakota

Thought CQ went the way of 73 magazine....

________________________________________
From: "'ljl2002@...' joe_molon@... [070]" <070@...>
To: "070@..." <070@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: [070] Re: South Dakota

PODXS Group,

There is a very interesting article in the September issue of CQ that deals with the problem of one station not seeing the other.
It is : Is HF Propagation Reciprocal? by Thomas Hood NW7US. It explains why the RF doesn't always go both ways on the same path.

I guess what is good for the goose is not always good for the gander when dealing with HF.

73
Joe
KA1PPV #1482

On Friday, November 3, 2017 8:18 PM, "boat.anchor@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:

Charles
TU 4 QSO
Barry

---In 070@..., wrote :
I see him but he can't see me
On Nov 3, 2017, at 6:59 PM, "boat.anchor@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:

Not seen here but CQn
Barry
VB7150

---In 070@..., wrote :

Anyone needs South Dakota AE0WM is on 20 meters
KI4VMK # 2542

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