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Re: another thing.....

Jerry N9AVY
 

Also depends on whether or not station at other end understands "QRL"   ... to my way of thinking it would be shorter to "QRL" than to ask "is frequency busy"  thus perhaps a shorter interruption of ongoing QSO.

 
"Also remember that just because you can hear or see a signal on your waterfall does not mean that the interfering station can hear or see you. "   
 
 Maybe yes and maybe no... if he's working a weak signal you might very well be interfering.  Rather than cause interference , it's simpler to move frequency. Best to err on side of caution.

n9avy


From: "'Ray Clements' r.clements@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: [070] another thing.....

 
QRL means "is this frequency busy?". 

While it is quite appropriate for phone where the band width takes up about 2.8 KHz, it is not so useful for digital modes such as PSK31 where the bandwidth is only 31 Hz and multiple QSOs can be present in the same waterfall at the same base frequency.

Also remember that just because you can hear or see a signal on your waterfall does not mean that the "interfering" station can hear or see you. 

Ray N9RWC 



------ Original Message ------
Received: 08:15 AM CDT, 11/01/2017
From: "Jerry n9avy@... [070]" <070@...>
To: "070@..." <070@...>
Subject: Re: [070] another thing.....


 
One way to avoid that happening is to put out a  "QRL ? QRL ? "   call or simple inquiring if frequency is in use .  QRL  means same thing in a Q Signal form.  There was a day all ham were familiar with the Q code.
 
Rarely hear "QRL" or anything like it.  Operators just jump on a frequency and start calling ... LIDs.
 
Jerry  n9avy



From: "mwbesemer@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 7:56 AM
Subject: RE: [070] another thing.....

 
CQ Field Day... CQ Field Day...

Actually, I've been guilty lately of CQing on top of someone, but it was not intentional.  The bands have been so goofy and the QSB so long and deep I've totally missed ongoing QSOs, even after watching for a minute or more. 

Last night, I was seeing strong signals CQing but could not get any answers.  I was operating Recliner-Remote from my living room so I couldn't hear the signals, but it made me wonder if the aurora was back last night.

Mike
WM4B


On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 8:52 AM, randy true w4rttrandy@... [070] wrote:

  
Another thing that p--se me off, is the guy that will! jump the frequency I have been using. Ten seconds after I end a qso.

Grrrrr





Randy W4RTT








Re: another thing.....

Ray Clements
 

QRL means "is this frequency busy?". 

While it is quite appropriate for phone where the band width takes up about 2.8 KHz, it is not so useful for digital modes such as PSK31 where the bandwidth is only 31 Hz and multiple QSOs can be present in the same waterfall at the same base frequency.

Also remember that just because you can hear or see a signal on your waterfall does not mean that the "interfering" station can hear or see you. 

Ray N9RWC 



------ Original Message ------
Received: 08:15 AM CDT, 11/01/2017
From: "Jerry n9avy@... [070]" <070@...>
To: "070@..." <070@...>
Subject: Re: [070] another thing.....


 

One way to avoid that happening is to put out a  "QRL ? QRL ? "   call or simple inquiring if frequency is in use .  QRL  means same thing in a Q Signal form.  There was a day all ham were familiar with the Q code.
 
Rarely hear "QRL" or anything like it.  Operators just jump on a frequency and start calling ... LIDs.
 
Jerry  n9avy



From: "mwbesemer@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 7:56 AM
Subject: RE: [070] another thing.....

 
CQ Field Day... CQ Field Day...

Actually, I've been guilty lately of CQing on top of someone, but it was not intentional.  The bands have been so goofy and the QSB so long and deep I've totally missed ongoing QSOs, even after watching for a minute or more. 

Last night, I was seeing strong signals CQing but could not get any answers.  I was operating Recliner-Remote from my living room so I couldn't hear the signals, but it made me wonder if the aurora was back last night.

Mike
WM4B


On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 8:52 AM, randy true w4rttrandy@... [070] wrote:

  
Another thing that p--se me off, is the guy that will! jump the frequency I have been using. Ten seconds after I end a qso.

Grrrrr





Randy W4RTT






Re: encroachment

Justin Mattes--KC2GIK
 

AGAIN--WHY POST IT ON HERE? Why not e-mail the offending operator directly??
PLEASE ANSWER THNE QUESTOIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Justin--KC2GIK 070-751

Trouble is, most of these people are previous PSK operators, so they
should know better??? Ya think?

Dan Morris KZ3T 070-1065
dbmorris315@gmail.com

I live to live for Him!




On Nov 1, 2017, at 8:39 AM, Matthew King mrk.twg@gmail.com [070]
<070@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Just keep operating. We're the ones that are supposed to be here per the
"gentleman's agreement".

Hopefully they'll eventually figure out that we're not going away.

73

Matt King
AK4MK - 070 #1708
PODXS 070 Club Executive Director


On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 8:31 AM, randy true w4rttrandy@outlook.com
<mailto:w4rttrandy@outlook.com> [070] <070@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:070@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:


Been noticing more and more FT8 signals popping up on 070.

Bad manners.





Randy W4RTT






Justin Mattes-KC2GIK
http://www.justinmattes.com


Re: another thing.....

Jerry N9AVY
 

Jm:
 
Wen that happens I just move up/down a bit and keep calling. An honest mistake.
 
Jerry  N9AVY



From: "Jim Innis jinnis@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 9:12 AM
Subject: Re: [070] another thing.....

 
Hope it wasnt me.  I was calling CQ last evening, and had few takers.  A couple of times I had a freq, sent my QRL? macro, got no response, called CQ, and all at once an ongoing QSO showed up in my waterfall.  The QSB was really a problem.

Jim K5SP

On 11/1/2017 8:15 AM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] wrote:
 
One way to avoid that happening is to put out a  "QRL ? QRL ? "   call or simple inquiring if frequency is in use .  QRL  means same thing in a Q Signal form.  There was a day all ham were familiar with the Q code.
 
Rarely hear "QRL" or anything like it.  Operators just jump on a frequency and start calling ... LIDs.
 
Jerry  n9avy



From: "mwbesemer@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 7:56 AM
Subject: RE: [070] another thing.....

 
CQ Field Day... CQ Field Day...

Actually, I've been guilty lately of CQing on top of someone, but it was not intentional.  The bands have been so goofy and the QSB so long and deep I've totally missed ongoing QSOs, even after watching for a minute or more. 

Last night, I was seeing strong signals CQing but could not get any answers.  I was operating Recliner-Remote from my living room so I couldn't hear the signals, but it made me wonder if the aurora was back last night.

Mike
WM4B


On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 8:52 AM, randy true w4rttrandy@... [070] wrote:

  
Another thing that p--se me off, is the guy that will! jump the frequency I have been using. Ten seconds after I end a qso.

Grrrrr





Randy W4RTT







Re: another thing.....

Randy True
 

No Jim, it wasn't you.

It was earlier this morning. I don't think he is an LONP guy.


Randy W4RTT




From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of Jim Innis jinnis@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 10:12 AM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] another thing.....
 
 

Hope it wasnt me.  I was calling CQ last evening, and had few takers.  A couple of times I had a freq, sent my QRL? macro, got no response, called CQ, and all at once an ongoing QSO showed up in my waterfall.  The QSB was really a problem.

Jim K5SP

On 11/1/2017 8:15 AM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] wrote:
 
One way to avoid that happening is to put out a  "QRL ? QRL ? "   call or simple inquiring if frequency is in use .  QRL  means same thing in a Q Signal form.  There was a day all ham were familiar with the Q code.
 
Rarely hear "QRL" or anything like it.  Operators just jump on a frequency and start calling ... LIDs.
 
Jerry  n9avy



From: "mwbesemer@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 7:56 AM
Subject: RE: [070] another thing.....

 
CQ Field Day... CQ Field Day...

Actually, I've been guilty lately of CQing on top of someone, but it was not intentional.  The bands have been so goofy and the QSB so long and deep I've totally missed ongoing QSOs, even after watching for a minute or more. 

Last night, I was seeing strong signals CQing but could not get any answers.  I was operating Recliner-Remote from my living room so I couldn't hear the signals, but it made me wonder if the aurora was back last night.

Mike
WM4B


On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 8:52 AM, randy true w4rttrandy@... [070] wrote:

  
Another thing that p--se me off, is the guy that will! jump the frequency I have been using. Ten seconds after I end a qso.

Grrrrr





Randy W4RTT





Re: another thing.....

Jim K5SP
 

Hope it wasnt me.  I was calling CQ last evening, and had few takers.  A couple of times I had a freq, sent my QRL? macro, got no response, called CQ, and all at once an ongoing QSO showed up in my waterfall.  The QSB was really a problem.

Jim K5SP

On 11/1/2017 8:15 AM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] wrote:
 
One way to avoid that happening is to put out a  "QRL ? QRL ? "   call or simple inquiring if frequency is in use .  QRL  means same thing in a Q Signal form.  There was a day all ham were familiar with the Q code.
 
Rarely hear "QRL" or anything like it.  Operators just jump on a frequency and start calling ... LIDs.
 
Jerry  n9avy



From: "mwbesemer@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 7:56 AM
Subject: RE: [070] another thing.....

 
CQ Field Day... CQ Field Day...

Actually, I've been guilty lately of CQing on top of someone, but it was not intentional.  The bands have been so goofy and the QSB so long and deep I've totally missed ongoing QSOs, even after watching for a minute or more. 

Last night, I was seeing strong signals CQing but could not get any answers.  I was operating Recliner-Remote from my living room so I couldn't hear the signals, but it made me wonder if the aurora was back last night.

Mike
WM4B


On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 8:52 AM, randy true w4rttrandy@... [070] wrote:

  
Another thing that p--se me off, is the guy that will! jump the frequency I have been using. Ten seconds after I end a qso.

Grrrrr





Randy W4RTT





Re: another thing.....

Jerry N9AVY
 

One way to avoid that happening is to put out a  "QRL ? QRL ? "   call or simple inquiring if frequency is in use .  QRL  means same thing in a Q Signal form.  There was a day all ham were familiar with the Q code.
 
Rarely hear "QRL" or anything like it.  Operators just jump on a frequency and start calling ... LIDs.
 
Jerry  n9avy



From: "mwbesemer@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 7:56 AM
Subject: RE: [070] another thing.....

 
CQ Field Day... CQ Field Day...

Actually, I've been guilty lately of CQing on top of someone, but it was not intentional.  The bands have been so goofy and the QSB so long and deep I've totally missed ongoing QSOs, even after watching for a minute or more. 

Last night, I was seeing strong signals CQing but could not get any answers.  I was operating Recliner-Remote from my living room so I couldn't hear the signals, but it made me wonder if the aurora was back last night.

Mike
WM4B


On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 8:52 AM, randy true w4rttrandy@... [070] wrote:

  
Another thing that p--se me off, is the guy that will! jump the frequency I have been using. Ten seconds after I end a qso.

Grrrrr





Randy W4RTT




Re: another thing.....

Jerry N9AVY
 

Randy:
 
This is just poor manners.  If you had the frequency first the other station should respect that and move. Have had that happen on many occasions when I've been holding a frequency for a hour or more. My response is to just keep calling CQ and eventually the guy will get the message.
 
The other one the bugs me also is when holding a frequency and working stations as fast as I can, I'll get a semi-rare DX station . When I finish the contact, I will continue to call CQ  but some rude operator will start calling that DX station, ignoring me.
 
This are other types of rude behavior which I suppose is because of the lack of proper mentoring both here is US  and abroad.  I sort of blame the "get your ham license in a weekend"  mills which give new licensees just enough info to pas the test and to hell with the rest of stuff that they should know. Hope that stuff doesn't move on to the medical profession because we'll all be in trouble.
 
Jerry  n9avy



From: "randy true w4rttrandy@... [070]" <070@...>
To: "070@..." <070@...>
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 7:52 AM
Subject: [070] another thing.....

 
Another thing that p--se me off, is the guy that will jump the frequency I have been using. Ten seconds after I end a qso.
Grrrrr


Randy W4RTT



Re: another thing.....

Randy True
 

The last guy was calling the station I had just worked...


Randy W4RTT




From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of mwbesemer@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 8:56 AM
To: 070@...
Subject: RE: [070] another thing.....
 
 

CQ Field Day... CQ Field Day...

Actually, I've been guilty lately of CQing on top of someone, but it was not intentional.  The bands have been so goofy and the QSB so long and deep I've totally missed ongoing QSOs, even after watching for a minute or more. 

Last night, I was seeing strong signals CQing but could not get any answers.  I was operating Recliner-Remote from my living room so I couldn't hear the signals, but it made me wonder if the aurora was back last night.

Mike
WM4B


On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 8:52 AM, randy true w4rttrandy@... [070] wrote:

  
Another thing that p--se me off, is the guy that will jump the frequency I have been using. Ten seconds after I end a qso.

Grrrrr





Randy W4RTT


Re: encroachment

Dan Morris - KZ3T
 

Trouble is, most of these people are previous PSK operators, so they
should know better???  Ya think?

Dan Morris  KZ3T  070-1065

I live to live for Him!




On Nov 1, 2017, at 8:39 AM, Matthew King mrk.twg@... [070] <070@...> wrote:


Just keep operating. We're the ones that are supposed to be here per the "gentleman's agreement". 

Hopefully they'll eventually figure out that we're not going away.

73

Matt King
AK4MK - 070 #1708
PODXS 070 Club Executive Director


On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 8:31 AM, randy true w4rttrandy@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
 

Been noticing more and more FT8 signals popping up on 070.

Bad manners.



Randy W4RTT






Re: another thing.....

mwbesemer@...
 


another thing.....

Randy True
 

Another thing that p--se me off, is the guy that will jump the frequency I have been using. Ten seconds after I end a qso.

Grrrrr



Randy W4RTT


Re: encroachment

Jerry N9AVY
 

Time to run spark gap ???

Jerry


From: "mwbesemer@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 7:49 AM
Subject: RE: [070] encroachment

 
I've been making sure that I use ALL of our subband and not just parking right around 1000 Hz.  If I see an FT8 signal, I'll park next to it and sent my CQ.  I'm NOT intentionally interfering with the FT8 signal, but I'm close enough to remind him I'm there.

Mike
WM4B


On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 8:31 AM, randy true w4rttrandy@... [070] wrote:

  
Been noticing more and more FT8 signals popping up on 070.
Bad manners.





Randy W4RTT




Re: encroachment

mwbesemer@...
 


Re: Thank You

ljl2002@att.net
 

What really cracked us up was the piece of "equipment" that he always had slung over his shoulder. It was actually the front control panel of an Ampex 2" tape machine which we still had in use at the station.  I guess only TV people would have known that but it sure made us laugh!

Joe
KA1PPV  #1482


On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 8:34 AM, "'ljl2002@...' joe_molon@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:


 
I never knew that you could fix that many things with duct tape!
My favorite was when he fixed the toilet with it.

Great show.  One of the best exports from Canada for sure.

Joe
KA1PPV  #1482


On Tuesday, October 31, 2017 5:10 PM, "Steve McEdwards mcfido@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:


 
Hey Joe ,
naw if the Mounties were bringing it I would still be waiting!!

And your right about the Red Green Show ,it was one of the great ones.
You wont find any less than 10 or so rolls of Duct Tape around here .including
my shack and remember what Red Green said
"If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy."
Take care Joe and have a good one eh!
73 de Steve
VA3TPS

> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: "'ljl2002@...' joe_molon@... [070]" <070@...>
> Date: October 31, 2017 at 2:04 PM
>
>
> Hey Steve,
> Was it delivered by a Mountie?  If it was then I think that you owe him a
> Molson, eh?I have several friends down here that are French Canadian (yes they
> are here in CT. the eastern half) and we have loads of fun with our common
> language.One of our favorite shows was the Red/Green show.  Hilarious!
> Hope you have a good day, eh?
> JoeKA1PPV  #1482
>
> On Monday, October 30, 2017 3:00 PM, "stevemcedwards@... [070]"
> <070@...> wrote:
>
>
>   Hey Matt ,
> The pony express finally made its way up to my location with the nice package
> of Certificates and the Rollo tag!
> Thank you  and all of the 070 Staff who put all the extra time and effort into
> our club! It is all of this work that makes it a great group to belong to and
> all of the members who contribute so much along the way with the special
> events, contests and the advise given out on this reflector.
>
> Thank you again!
> 73 de Steve
> VA3TPS
>
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Re: encroachment

Matthew King - AK4MK
 

Just keep operating. We're the ones that are supposed to be here per the "gentleman's agreement". 

Hopefully they'll eventually figure out that we're not going away.

73

Matt King
AK4MK - 070 #1708
PODXS 070 Club Executive Director


On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 8:31 AM, randy true w4rttrandy@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
 

Been noticing more and more FT8 signals popping up on 070.

Bad manners.



Randy W4RTT



Re: Thank You

ljl2002@att.net
 

I never knew that you could fix that many things with duct tape!
My favorite was when he fixed the toilet with it.

Great show.  One of the best exports from Canada for sure.

Joe
KA1PPV  #1482


On Tuesday, October 31, 2017 5:10 PM, "Steve McEdwards mcfido@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:


 
Hey Joe ,
naw if the Mounties were bringing it I would still be waiting!!

And your right about the Red Green Show ,it was one of the great ones.
You wont find any less than 10 or so rolls of Duct Tape around here .including
my shack and remember what Red Green said
"If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy."
Take care Joe and have a good one eh!
73 de Steve
VA3TPS

> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: "'ljl2002@...' joe_molon@... [070]" <070@...>
> Date: October 31, 2017 at 2:04 PM
>
>
> Hey Steve,
> Was it delivered by a Mountie?  If it was then I think that you owe him a
> Molson, eh?I have several friends down here that are French Canadian (yes they
> are here in CT. the eastern half) and we have loads of fun with our common
> language.One of our favorite shows was the Red/Green show.  Hilarious!
> Hope you have a good day, eh?
> JoeKA1PPV  #1482
>
> On Monday, October 30, 2017 3:00 PM, "stevemcedwards@... [070]"
> <070@...> wrote:
>
>
>   Hey Matt ,
> The pony express finally made its way up to my location with the nice package
> of Certificates and the Rollo tag!
> Thank you  and all of the 070 Staff who put all the extra time and effort into
> our club! It is all of this work that makes it a great group to belong to and
> all of the members who contribute so much along the way with the special
> events, contests and the advise given out on this reflector.
>
> Thank you again!
> 73 de Steve
> VA3TPS
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encroachment

Randy True
 

Been noticing more and more FT8 signals popping up on 070.

Bad manners.



Randy W4RTT


Re: Thank You

Steve VA3TPS
 

Hey Joe ,
naw if the Mounties were bringing it I would still be waiting!!

And your right about the Red Green Show ,it was one of the great ones.
You wont find any less than 10 or so rolls of Duct Tape around here .including
my shack and remember what Red Green said
"If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy."
Take care Joe and have a good one eh!
73 de Steve
VA3TPS

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "'ljl2002@att.net' joe_molon@yahoo.com [070]" <070@yahoogroups.com>
Date: October 31, 2017 at 2:04 PM


Hey Steve,
Was it delivered by a Mountie?  If it was then I think that you owe him a
Molson, eh?I have several friends down here that are French Canadian (yes they
are here in CT. the eastern half) and we have loads of fun with our common
language.One of our favorite shows was the Red/Green show.  Hilarious!
Hope you have a good day, eh?
JoeKA1PPV  #1482

On Monday, October 30, 2017 3:00 PM, "stevemcedwards@yahoo.ca [070]"
<070@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


  Hey Matt ,
The pony express finally made its way up to my location with the nice package
of Certificates and the Rollo tag!
Thank you  and all of the 070 Staff who put all the extra time and effort into
our club! It is all of this work that makes it a great group to belong to and
all of the members who contribute so much along the way with the special
events, contests and the advise given out on this reflector.

Thank you again!
73 de Steve
VA3TPS

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Re: Thank You

Rick - N7WE
 

Oh my!  The Red Green Show!  Brings back memories of hilarious evenings in northern NY watching TV while is snowed a ton outside!  One of the funniest shows ever.  If you don't know of it, it is worth a google and some time watching clips on YouTube.  

Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602

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