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Re: 17M

Jerry N9AVY
 

Seeing you working  WB8YXF at 1851  UTC


Jerry  N9AVY


From: "randy true w4rttrandy@... [070]" <070@...>
To: "070@..." <070@...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: [070] 17M

 
Yes, 17m.
I'm still there at 18.098 + 1500

Randy W4RTT



From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of Peter Hiltz pmhiltz@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 1:03 PM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] 17M
 
 
Randy,

What band?  17m?

Pete



On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 1:02 PM, randy true w4rttrandy@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
 
Calling at .098 + 1400

Randy W4RTT



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Re: 17M

Fr Richard R
 

Randy,
I see ya and am calling....

Fr Richard
WB8YXF



On Wednesday, October 11, 2017, 2:45:04 PM EDT, randy true w4rttrandy@... [070] <070@...> wrote:


 

Yes, 17m.

I'm still there at 18.098 + 1500


Randy W4RTT




From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of Peter Hiltz pmhiltz@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 1:03 PM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] 17M
 
 

Randy,

What band?  17m?

Pete



On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 1:02 PM, randy true w4rttrandy@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
 

Calling at .098 + 1400


Randy W4RTT




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Re: 17 meters

tom@...
 

Umm it's just like every DXpedition, and every Phone, CW, RTTY contest ...ever...

Ham radio has million different things for all types of people.

73,

Tom

---In 070@..., <n9avy@...> wrote :

 
That's not in spirit & tradition of ham radio.  
 
Jerry  N9AVY




17M

Randy True
 

The FT8 signals are down here now, also.



Randy W4RTT


Re: 17M

Randy True
 

Yes, 17m.

I'm still there at 18.098 + 1500


Randy W4RTT




From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of Peter Hiltz pmhiltz@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 1:03 PM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] 17M
 
 

Randy,

What band?  17m?

Pete



On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 1:02 PM, randy true w4rttrandy@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
 

Calling at .098 + 1400


Randy W4RTT




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WV3S
Monitoring 146.52 MHz & the CCARC UHF Repeater


Re: 365+1 back in action

Rick - N7WE
 

Glad you got it David.� Keep on keepin' on.� It's in sight!

Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602

On 10/11/2017 11:17, David Rock david@... [070] wrote:
�

* David Rock [2017-10-11 10:09]:
>
> Nope. Trying on 20m this morning since I can actually see a couple traces now.

Yay, I got one. Only 4 to go...

--
David, K9DWR
#1604 LONP #255
david@...



Re: 17M

Peter Hiltz
 

Randy,

What band?  17m?

Pete



On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 1:02 PM, randy true w4rttrandy@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
 

Calling at .098 + 1400


Randy W4RTT




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WV3S
Monitoring 146.52 MHz & the CCARC UHF Repeater


17M

Randy True
 

Calling at .098 + 1400


Randy W4RTT


Re: 17 meters

Jonathan Wilson <eaglescout.jonathan@...>
 

I'll echo what David said.�� The weak signal modes are not for ragchewing, but with how a lot of people use macro's psk31 (myself included) is becoming the same.

I love this club because the challenges are fun and the contest are creative.� I sure would like to see another contest get added to the rotation wherein no macros beyond and are allowed.� Sure would be a fun contest.

~Jonathan KC1BOS


On 10/11/17 12:18 PM, David Rock david@... [070] wrote:
�

* Charles Odom ki4vmk@... [070] <070@...> [2017-10-11 09:49]:
> With JT65, JT9 and FT8 the trend is to make a contact and log it. No
> one wants to have interaction or conversation.� Just sayin'

Have you ever tried to have a conversation over a JT mode? It's
practically impossible. There's also nothing "fast" about JT. When all
you can send every minute is a handful of characters, it doesn't lend
itself very well to ragchewing.

Don't rag on the modes; they have valid uses and work well for what they
are meant to do: terse communication in bad conditions. Not every mode
is meant to be used for ragchewing and should not be blasted because the
design of the mode doesn't lend itself to it. Use the right tool for
the job and don't expect a mode to be something it isn't. I can use a
screwdriver as a hammer, but it makes a much better screwdriver. I
can't be upset if it makes a crappy hammer; I chose to use it
incorrectly.

This is a valid discussion for something like PSK-31 where conversation
as a ragchew *is* possible. Now you are talking about the operators
being the ones that are not interested in talking and just sending
macro, macro, SK. That's not the case with JT modes. They are not
designed as conversation modes, they are designed as contact modes that
can reliably send small bits of information. If that's not what you
want, then just don't use them.

--
David, K9DWR
#1604 LONP #255
david@...



Re: 17 meters

David, K9DWR
 

* Charles Odom ki4vmk@yahoo.com [070] <070@yahoogroups.com> [2017-10-11 09:49]:
With JT65, JT9 and FT8 the trend is to make a contact and log it. No
one wants to have interaction or conversation.� Just sayin'
Have you ever tried to have a conversation over a JT mode? It's
practically impossible. There's also nothing "fast" about JT. When all
you can send every minute is a handful of characters, it doesn't lend
itself very well to ragchewing.

Don't rag on the modes; they have valid uses and work well for what they
are meant to do: terse communication in bad conditions. Not every mode
is meant to be used for ragchewing and should not be blasted because the
design of the mode doesn't lend itself to it. Use the right tool for
the job and don't expect a mode to be something it isn't. I can use a
screwdriver as a hammer, but it makes a much better screwdriver. I
can't be upset if it makes a crappy hammer; I chose to use it
incorrectly.

This is a valid discussion for something like PSK-31 where conversation
as a ragchew *is* possible. Now you are talking about the operators
being the ones that are not interested in talking and just sending
macro, macro, SK. That's not the case with JT modes. They are not
designed as conversation modes, they are designed as contact modes that
can reliably send small bits of information. If that's not what you
want, then just don't use them.


--
David, K9DWR
#1604 LONP #255
david@graniteweb.com


Re: 17 meters

Brian (N2MLP)
 

There a lot of bands, modes, and power level to make it a lifetime project

 

Working WAS on two meters is a lot of time,  440  lifetime.

 

From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 11:46 AM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] 17 meters

 

 

Brian:

 

That's awful !   Working WAS in one day.  Kind of reminds me of guys who got into DXing , worked all the DXCC countries and disappeared from Amateur Radio after spend big $$$$$ on equipment, towers, & antennas. Takes all the fun out.  Guess it's the "instant gratification" generation.

 

Jerry  n9avy 

 


From: "'Brian' n2mlp@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 10:37 AM
Subject: RE: [070] 17 meters

 

 

Plus working WAS in one day is fun.

 

      


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Re: 17 meters

Jerry N9AVY
 

Brian:
 
That's awful !   Working WAS in one day.  Kind of reminds me of guys who got into DXing , worked all the DXCC countries and disappeared from Amateur Radio after spend big $$$$$ on equipment, towers, & antennas. Takes all the fun out.  Guess it's the "instant gratification" generation.
 
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Re: 17 meters

Brian (N2MLP)
 

True but can always run SSB or CW and enjoy long QSO

Or if you want to be old school AM

 

There a lot of places and modes to work on bands

 

Think if there were not two modes trying to use same band space no one would care

 

From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 11:40 AM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] 17 meters

 

 

Seems to me that it's just another version of collecting Facebook Friends game.   Log a bunch of people you don't know without knowing anything about them. 

 

Guess  different strokes for different folks.

 


From: "Charles Odom ki4vmk@... [070]" <070@...>
To: PODXS <070@...>
Cc: PODXS <070@...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: [070] 17 meters

 

 

That's my point. That is why I don't like those fast turn around modes.

On Oct 11, 2017, at 10:27 AM, "Jerry n9avy@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:

 

That's not in spirit & tradition of ham radio.  

 

Jerry  N9AVY

 


From: "Charles Odom ki4vmk@... [070]" <070@...>
To: PODXS <070@...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: [070] 17 meters

 

 

With JT65, JT9 and FT8 the trend is to make a contact and log it. No one wants to have interaction or conversation.  Just sayin'

KI4VMK

On Oct 11, 2017, at 9:35 AM, "mwbesemer@... [070]" < 070@...> wrote:

 

So, basically an all-mode, broadband kind of thing?  No receiver necessary - just sniff out the Ozone.

 

Mike

WM4B

 

On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] wrote:

 

   Next new mode will be  "digital spark gap".  *:)) laughing   

 

Jerry  N9AVY



___________________________________

 

From: "Bill Garwood n4gbk@... [070]" <070@...>

To: "070@..." <070@...>

Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 7:32 AM

Subject: [070] 17 meters

 

 

Hi Folks,

 

Several of you have been trying 17 meter PSK31 recently.  If you are working on the 17 meter award (or any other award), it would help to know when to head to the shack and try to give you a contact.  I'm always trying to help others get their needed QSOs  for whatever award they are pursuing.  I'm not really into stopping what I'm doing to head to the shack to chit chat.

 

The problem with FT-8 "invading" your favorite frequency is a lot bigger than FT-8, the ARRL or whatever.  Back in the good ol' days, ham experimenters were designing and building equipment and antennas.  Some of that is still happening but a lot of experimenters  are working with ham radio digital software.  I look at my DXKeeper log and it has a drop-down list of something like 30 digital modes to select.  In the past couple of years, this list has expanded to include JT-65, JT-9 and FT-8 and probably some more.    The issue of how and where to fit in all of these digital modes into the radio spectrum has not been resolved.  I am sure there are developers out there somewhere working on something new right now that will eventually be added to the list of digital modes.   Maybe the next improved PSK31 or FT-8 is just around the corner and will cause more clutt er.  I don't have the answer to the problem but I think it needs to come through the ITU as this is a global issue on the HF bands.  Jamming other stations and causing  intentional havoc on the bands because you do not like what is going on is not in the best interest of amateur radio.  

 

Thanks to everyone for the fun we have and I hope to see many of you on the waterfall soon.  I've got my Pumpkin station ready for this weekend.  Now if these pesky thunderstorms will just go away.

 

73,

 

Bill N4GBK     



 

 


Re: 17 meters

Charles Odom <ki4vmk@...>
 

Jerry, your last statement is true. With ham radio there is something for everyone

On Oct 11, 2017, at 10:40 AM, "Jerry n9avy@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:
 

Seems to me that it's just another version of collecting Facebook Friends game.   Log a bunch of people you don't know without knowing anything about them. 
 
Guess  different strokes for different folks.



From: "Charles Odom ki4vmk@... [070]" <070@...>
To: PODXS <070@...>
Cc: PODXS <070@...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: [070] 17 meters

 
That's my point. That is why I don't like those fast turn around modes.
On Oct 11, 2017, at 10:27 AM, "Jerry n9avy@... [070]" < 070@...> wrote:
 
That's not in spirit & tradition of ham radio.  
 
Jerry  N9AVY



From: "Charles Odom ki4vmk@... [070]" <070@...>
To: PODXS <070@...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: [070] 17 meters

 
With JT65, JT9 and FT8 the trend is to make a contact and log it. No one wants to have interaction or conversation.  Just sayin'

KI4VMK
On Oct 11, 2017, at 9:35 AM, "mwbesemer@... [070]" < 070@...> wrote:
 
So, basically an all-mode, broadband kind of thing?  No receiver necessary - just sniff out the Ozone.

Mike
WM4B


On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] wrote:

   Next new mode will be  "digital spark gap".  *:)) laughing   
 
Jerry  N9AVY



___________________________________

From: "Bill Garwood n4gbk@... [070]" <070@...>
To: "070@..." <070@...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 7:32 AM
Subject: [070] 17 meters

 
Hi Folks,


Several of you have been trying 17 meter PSK31 recently.  If you are working on the 17 meter award (or any other award), it would help to know when to head to the shack and try to give you a contact.  I'm always trying to help others get their needed QSOs  for whatever award they are pursuing.  I'm not really into stopping what I'm doing to head to the shack to chit chat.


The problem with FT-8 "invading" your favorite frequency is a lot bigger than FT-8, the ARRL or whatever.  Back in the good ol' days, ham experimenters were designing and building equipment and antennas.  Some of that is still happening but a lot of experimenters  are working with ham radio digital software.  I look at my DXKeeper log and it has a drop-down list of something like 30 digital modes to select.  In the past couple of years, this list has expanded to include JT-65, JT-9 and FT-8 and probably some more.    The issue of how and where to fit in all of these digital modes into the radio spectrum has not been resolved.  I am sure there are developers out there somewhere working on something new right now that will eventually be added to the list of digital modes.   Maybe the next improved PSK31 or FT-8 is just around the corner and will cause more clutter.  I don't have the answer to the problem but I think it needs to come through the ITU as this is a global issue on the HF bands.  Jamming other stations and causing  intentional havoc on the bands because you do not like what is going on is not in the best interest of amateur radio.  


Thanks to everyone for the fun we have and I hope to see many of you on the waterfall soon.  I've got my Pumpkin station ready for this weekend.  Now if these pesky thunderstorms will just go away.


73,


Bill N4GBK     








Re: 17 meters

Jerry N9AVY
 

Seems to me that it's just another version of collecting Facebook Friends game.   Log a bunch of people you don't know without knowing anything about them. 
 
Guess  different strokes for different folks.



From: "Charles Odom ki4vmk@... [070]" <070@...>
To: PODXS <070@...>
Cc: PODXS <070@...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: [070] 17 meters

 
That's my point. That is why I don't like those fast turn around modes.
On Oct 11, 2017, at 10:27 AM, "Jerry n9avy@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:
 
That's not in spirit & tradition of ham radio.  
 
Jerry  N9AVY



From: "Charles Odom ki4vmk@... [070]" <070@...>
To: PODXS <070@...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: [070] 17 meters

 
With JT65, JT9 and FT8 the trend is to make a contact and log it. No one wants to have interaction or conversation.  Just sayin'

KI4VMK
On Oct 11, 2017, at 9:35 AM, "mwbesemer@... [070]" < 070@...> wrote:
 
So, basically an all-mode, broadband kind of thing?  No receiver necessary - just sniff out the Ozone.

Mike
WM4B


On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] wrote:

   Next new mode will be  "digital spark gap".  *:)) laughing   
 
Jerry  N9AVY



___________________________________

From: "Bill Garwood n4gbk@... [070]" <070@...>
To: "070@..." <070@...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 7:32 AM
Subject: [070] 17 meters

 
Hi Folks,


Several of you have been trying 17 meter PSK31 recently.  If you are working on the 17 meter award (or any other award), it would help to know when to head to the shack and try to give you a contact.  I'm always trying to help others get their needed QSOs  for whatever award they are pursuing.  I'm not really into stopping what I'm doing to head to the shack to chit chat.


The problem with FT-8 "invading" your favorite frequency is a lot bigger than FT-8, the ARRL or whatever.  Back in the good ol' days, ham experimenters were designing and building equipment and antennas.  Some of that is still happening but a lot of experimenters  are working with ham radio digital software.  I look at my DXKeeper log and it has a drop-down list of something like 30 digital modes to select.  In the past couple of years, this list has expanded to include JT-65, JT-9 and FT-8 and probably some more.    The issue of how and where to fit in all of these digital modes into the radio spectrum has not been resolved.  I am sure there are developers out there somewhere working on something new right now that will eventually be added to the list of digital modes.   Maybe the next improved PSK31 or FT-8 is just around the corner and will cause more clutter.  I don't have the answer to the problem but I think it needs to come through the ITU as this is a global issue on the HF bands.  Jamming other stations and causing  intentional havoc on the bands because you do not like what is going on is not in the best interest of amateur radio.  


Thanks to everyone for the fun we have and I hope to see many of you on the waterfall soon.  I've got my Pumpkin station ready for this weekend.  Now if these pesky thunderstorms will just go away.


73,


Bill N4GBK     








Re: 17 meters

Brian (N2MLP)
 

Plus working WAS in one day is fun.

 

From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 11:36 AM
To: 070@...
Subject: RE: [070] 17 meters

 

 

it’s the setup of those modes

to pass data at fast speed,

 

not to have an hour conversation.

that one thing I like about them.

 

don’t need to hear about someone prerecorded Macro of their life story  every time I have a    QSO

 

 

From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 11:27 AM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] 17 meters

 

 

That's not in spirit & tradition of ham radio.  

 

Jerry  N9AVY

 


From: "Charles Odom ki4vmk@... [0 70]" <070@...>
To: PODXS <070@...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: [070] 17 meters

 

 

With JT65, JT9 and FT8 the trend is to make a contact and log it. No one wants to have interaction or conversation.  Just sayin'

KI4VMK

On Oct 11, 2017, at 9:35 AM, "mwbesemer@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:

 

So, basically an all-mode, broadband kind of thing?  No receiver necessary - just sniff out the Ozone.

 

Mike

WM4B

 

On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] wrote:

 

   Next new mode will be  "digital spark gap".  *:)) laughing  ;  

 

Jerry  N9AVY




___________________________________

 

From: "Bill Garwood n4gbk@... [070]" <070@...>

To: "070@..." <070@...>

Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 7:32 AM

Subject: [070] 17 meters

 

 

Hi Folks,

 

Several of you have been trying 17 meter PSK31 recently.  If you are working on the 17 meter award (or any other award), it would help to know when to head to the shack and try to give you a contact.  I'm always tryi ng to help others get their needed QSOs  for whatever award they are pursuing.  I'm not really into stopping what I'm doing to head to the shack to chit chat.

 

The problem with FT-8 "invading" your favorite frequency is a lot bigger than FT-8, the ARRL or whatever.  Back in the good ol' days, ham experimenters were designing and building equipment and antennas.  Some of that is still happening but a lot of experimenters  are working with ham radio digital software.  I look at my DXKeeper log and it has a drop-down list of something like 30 digital modes to select.  In the past couple of years, this list has expanded to include JT-65, JT-9 and FT-8 and probably some more.  &nb sp; The issue of how and where to fit in all of these digital modes into the radio spectrum has not been resolved.  I am sure there are developers out there somewhere working on something new right now that will eventually be added to the list of digital modes.   Maybe the next improved PSK31 or FT-8 is just around the corner and will cause more clutter.  I don't have the answer to the problem but I think it needs to come through the ITU as this is a global issue on the HF bands.  Jamming other stations and causing  intentional havoc on the bands because you do not like what is going on is not in the best interest of amateur radio.  

 

Thanks to everyone for the fun we have and I h ope to see many of you on the waterfall soon.  I've got my Pumpkin station ready for this weekend.  Now if these pesky thunderstorms will just go away.

 

73,

 

Bill N4GBK     




 


Re: 17 meters

Brian (N2MLP)
 

it’s the setup of those modes

to pass data at fast speed,

 

not to have an hour conversation.

that one thing I like about them.

 

don’t need to hear about someone prerecorded Macro of their life story  every time I have a    QSO

 

 

From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 11:27 AM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] 17 meters

 

 

That's not in spirit & tradition of ham radio.  

 

Jerry  N9AVY

 


From: "Charles Odom ki4vmk@... [0 70]" <070@...>
To: PODXS <070@...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: [070] 17 meters

 

 

With JT65, JT9 and FT8 the trend is to make a contact and log it. No one wants to have interaction or conversation.  Just sayin'

KI4VMK

On Oct 11, 2017, at 9:35 AM, "mwbesemer@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:

 

So, basically an all-mode, broadband kind of thing?  No receiver necessary - just sniff out the Ozone.

 

Mike

WM4B

 

On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] wrote:

 

   Next new mode will be  "digital spark gap".  *:)) laughing  ;  

 

Jerry  N9AVY



___________________________________

 

From: "Bill Garwood n4gbk@... [070]" <070@...>

To: "070@..." <070@...>

Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 7:32 AM

Subject: [070] 17 meters

 

 

Hi Folks,

 

Several of you have been trying 17 meter PSK31 recently.  If you are working on the 17 meter award (or any other award), it would help to know when to head to the shack and try to give you a contact.  I'm always tryi ng to help others get their needed QSOs  for whatever award they are pursuing.  I'm not really into stopping what I'm doing to head to the shack to chit chat.

 

The problem with FT-8 "invading" your favorite frequency is a lot bigger than FT-8, the ARRL or whatever.  Back in the good ol' days, ham experimenters were designing and building equipment and antennas.  Some of that is still happening but a lot of experimenters  are working with ham radio digital software.  I look at my DXKeeper log and it has a drop-down list of something like 30 digital modes to select.  In the past couple of years, this list has expanded to include JT-65, JT-9 and FT-8 and probably some more.  &nb sp; The issue of how and where to fit in all of these digital modes into the radio spectrum has not been resolved.  I am sure there are developers out there somewhere working on something new right now that will eventually be added to the list of digital modes.   Maybe the next improved PSK31 or FT-8 is just around the corner and will cause more clutter.  I don't have the answer to the problem but I think it needs to come through the ITU as this is a global issue on the HF bands.  Jamming other stations and causing  intentional havoc on the bands because you do not like what is going on is not in the best interest of amateur radio.  

 

Thanks to everyone for the fun we have and I h ope to see many of you on the waterfall soon.  I've got my Pumpkin station ready for this weekend.  Now if these pesky thunderstorms will just go away.

 

73,

 

Bill N4GBK     



 


Re: 17 meters

Charles Odom <ki4vmk@...>
 

That's my point. That is why I don't like those fast turn around modes.

On Oct 11, 2017, at 10:27 AM, "Jerry n9avy@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:
 

That's not in spirit & tradition of ham radio.  
 
Jerry  N9AVY



From: "Charles Odom ki4vmk@... [070]" <070@...>
To: PODXS <070@...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: [070] 17 meters

 
With JT65, JT9 and FT8 the trend is to make a contact and log it. No one wants to have interaction or conversation.  Just sayin'

KI4VMK
On Oct 11, 2017, at 9:35 AM, "mwbesemer@... [070]" < 070@...> wrote:
 
So, basically an all-mode, broadband kind of thing?  No receiver necessary - just sniff out the Ozone.

Mike
WM4B


On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] wrote:

   Next new mode will be  "digital spark gap".  *:)) laughing   
 
Jerry  N9AVY



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From: "Bill Garwood n4gbk@... [070]" <070@...>
To: "070@..." <070@...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 7:32 AM
Subject: [070] 17 meters

 
Hi Folks,


Several of you have been trying 17 meter PSK31 recently.  If you are working on the 17 meter award (or any other award), it would help to know when to head to the shack and try to give you a contact.  I'm always trying to help others get their needed QSOs  for whatever award they are pursuing.  I'm not really into stopping what I'm doing to head to the shack to chit chat.


The problem with FT-8 "invading" your favorite frequency is a lot bigger than FT-8, the ARRL or whatever.  Back in the good ol' days, ham experimenters were designing and building equipment and antennas.  Some of that is still happening but a lot of experimenters  are working with ham radio digital software.  I look at my DXKeeper log and it has a drop-down list of something like 30 digital modes to select.  In the past couple of years, this list has expanded to include JT-65, JT-9 and FT-8 and probably some more.    The issue of how and where to fit in all of these digital modes into the radio spectrum has not been resolved.  I am sure there are developers out there somewhere working on something new right now that will eventually be added to the list of digital modes.   Maybe the next improved PSK31 or FT-8 is just around the corner and will cause more clutter.  I don't have the answer to the problem but I think it needs to come through the ITU as this is a global issue on the HF bands.  Jamming other stations and causing  intentional havoc on the bands because you do not like what is going on is not in the best interest of amateur radio.  


Thanks to everyone for the fun we have and I hope to see many of you on the waterfall soon.  I've got my Pumpkin station ready for this weekend.  Now if these pesky thunderstorms will just go away.


73,


Bill N4GBK     






Re: 17 meters

Jerry N9AVY
 

That's not in spirit & tradition of ham radio.  
 
Jerry  N9AVY



From: "Charles Odom ki4vmk@... [070]" <070@...>
To: PODXS <070@...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: [070] 17 meters

 
With JT65, JT9 and FT8 the trend is to make a contact and log it. No one wants to have interaction or conversation.  Just sayin'

KI4VMK
On Oct 11, 2017, at 9:35 AM, "mwbesemer@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:
 
So, basically an all-mode, broadband kind of thing?  No receiver necessary - just sniff out the Ozone.

Mike
WM4B


On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] wrote:

   Next new mode will be  "digital spark gap".  *:)) laughing   
 
Jerry  N9AVY



___________________________________

From: "Bill Garwood n4gbk@... [070]" <070@...>
To: "070@..." <070@...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 7:32 AM
Subject: [070] 17 meters

 
Hi Folks,


Several of you have been trying 17 meter PSK31 recently.  If you are working on the 17 meter award (or any other award), it would help to know when to head to the shack and try to give you a contact.  I'm always trying to help others get their needed QSOs  for whatever award they are pursuing.  I'm not really into stopping what I'm doing to head to the shack to chit chat.


The problem with FT-8 "invading" your favorite frequency is a lot bigger than FT-8, the ARRL or whatever.  Back in the good ol' days, ham experimenters were designing and building equipment and antennas.  Some of that is still happening but a lot of experimenters  are working with ham radio digital software.  I look at my DXKeeper log and it has a drop-down list of something like 30 digital modes to select.  In the past couple of years, this list has expanded to include JT-65, JT-9 and FT-8 and probably some more.    The issue of how and where to fit in all of these digital modes into the radio spectrum has not been resolved.  I am sure there are developers out there somewhere working on something new right now that will eventually be added to the list of digital modes.   Maybe the next improved PSK31 or FT-8 is just around the corner and will cause more clutter.  I don't have the answer to the problem but I think it needs to come through the ITU as this is a global issue on the HF bands.  Jamming other stations and causing  intentional havoc on the bands because you do not like what is going on is not in the best interest of amateur radio.  


Thanks to everyone for the fun we have and I hope to see many of you on the waterfall soon.  I've got my Pumpkin station ready for this weekend.  Now if these pesky thunderstorms will just go away.


73,


Bill N4GBK     






Re: 17 meters

Jerry N9AVY
 

Yep !  It will render most electronic devices useless  for blocks       Don't get high on sniffing ozone !


Jerry  n9avy


From: "mwbesemer@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: [070] 17 meters

 
So, basically an all-mode, broadband kind of thing?  No receiver necessary - just sniff out the Ozone.

Mike
WM4B


On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] wrote:

   Next new mode will be  "digital spark gap".  *:)) laughing   
 
Jerry  N9AVY



___________________________________

From: "Bill Garwood n4gbk@... [070]" <070@...>
To: "070@..." <070@...>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 7:32 AM
Subject: [070] 17 meters

 
Hi Folks,


Several of you have been trying 17 meter PSK31 recently.  If you are working on the 17 meter award (or any other award), it would help to know when to head to the shack and try to give you a contact.  I'm always trying to help others get their needed QSOs  for whatever award they are pursuing.  I'm not really into stopping what I'm doing to head to the shack to chit chat.


The problem with FT-8 "invading" your favor! ite frequency is a lot bigger than FT-8, the ARRL or whatever.  Back in the good ol' days, ham experimenters were designing and building equipment and antennas.  Some of that is still happening but a lot of experimenters  are working with ham radio digital software.  I look at my DXKeeper log and it has a drop-down list of something like 30 digital modes to select.  In the past couple of years, this list has expanded to include JT-65, JT-9 and FT-8 and probably some more.    The issue of how and where to fit in all of these digital modes into the radio spectrum has not been resolved.  I am sure there are developers out there somewhere working on something new right now that will eventually be added to the list of digital modes.   Maybe the next improved PSK31 or FT-8 is just around the corner and will cause more clutter.  I don't have the answer to the problem but I think it needs to come through the ITU as this is a global issue on the HF bands.  Jamming other stations and causing  intentional havoc on the bands because you do not like what is going on is not in the best interest of amateur radio.  


Thanks to everyone for the fun we have and I hope to see many of you on the waterfall soon.  I've got my Pumpkin station ready for this weekend.  Now if these pesky thunderstorms will just go away.


73,


Bill N4GBK     





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