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Re: 365+1 back in action

David, K9DWR
 

* David Rock <david@graniteweb.com> [2017-10-10 14:11]:
I'm back in the window for finishing off my last 5 days...

Oct 11, 22, 30
Nov 8, 25
I'm on 7.071 right now. Anybody around? I can't tell if the band is
dead or I'm deaf (or both).

--
David, K9DWR
#1604 LONP #255
david@graniteweb.com


Re: Giant Pumpkin Breaks Record

Jerry N9AVY
 

As I recall it was someone testing a  50,000 watt aeronautical mobile transmitter while airborne or so the story  went. 

Jerry n9avy


From: "Jim Innis jinnis@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 7:05 PM
Subject: Re: [070] Giant Pumpkin Breaks Record

 
Or, was it me goofing off in the ships radio shack......

Would I do something like that? 

JIM K5SP 



Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S®6 active, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone

-------- Original message --------
From: "Jerry n9avy@... [070]" <070@...>
Date: 10/10/17 6:45 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] Giant Pumpkin Breaks Record

 
Was an SWL  during the Viet Nam war and I remember logging something using the ID, "The Voice of the Purple Pumpkin"  think it was a clandestine CIA op.
 
 
Jerry  n9avy



From: "n7we1980@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 6:38 PM
Subject: [070] Giant Pumpkin Breaks Record

 

Giant Pumpkin Breaks Record at Missouri Festival

 A giant pumpkin weighing over 1,500 pounds broke the record of the largest pumpkin at the Pumpkin Daze festival in Republic, Missouri.
– Fox News 10/10/17
 
 
Our 160m Great Pumpkin Sprint begins this Saturday at 2000 UTC.  For details click HERE.  Will we have the largest ever Great Pumpkin Sprint?  Hope to see you at or near 1.807 MHz!
 
Rick Butz
N7WE - 070 #1602
PODXS 070 Public Relations Director






Re: Giant Pumpkin Breaks Record

Matthew King - AK4MK
 

Thanks, Rick, for the reminder about the upcoming Great Pumpkin Sprint.

Don't forget to check 1.838 periodically as well - our European friends hang out there, it seems. Ya never know! :-)


73

Matt King
AK4MK - 070 #1708
PODXS 070 Club Executive Director


On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 7:38 PM, n7we1980@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
 

Giant Pumpkin Breaks Record at Missouri Festival

 A giant pumpkin weighing over 1,500 pounds broke the record of the largest pumpkin at the Pumpkin Daze festival in Republic, Missouri.

– Fox News 10/10/17

 

 

Our 160m Great Pumpkin Sprint begins this Saturday at 2000 UTC.  For details click HERE.  Will we have the largest ever Great Pumpkin Sprint?  Hope to see you at or near 1.807 MHz!

 

Rick Butz

N7WE - 070 #1602

PODXS 070 Public Relations Director




Re: Giant Pumpkin Breaks Record

Jim K5SP
 

Or, was it me goofing off in the ships radio shack......

Would I do something like that? 

JIM K5SP 



Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S®6 active, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone

-------- Original message --------
From: "Jerry n9avy@... [070]" <070@...>
Date: 10/10/17 6:45 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] Giant Pumpkin Breaks Record

 

Was an SWL  during the Viet Nam war and I remember logging something using the ID, "The Voice of the Purple Pumpkin"  think it was a clandestine CIA op.
 
 
Jerry  n9avy



From: "n7we1980@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 6:38 PM
Subject: [070] Giant Pumpkin Breaks Record

 

Giant Pumpkin Breaks Record at Missouri Festival

 A giant pumpkin weighing over 1,500 pounds broke the record of the largest pumpkin at the Pumpkin Daze festival in Republic, Missouri.
– Fox News 10/10/17
 
 
Our 160m Great Pumpkin Sprint begins this Saturday at 2000 UTC.  For details click HERE.  Will we have the largest ever Great Pumpkin Sprint?  Hope to see you at or near 1.807 MHz!
 
Rick Butz
N7WE - 070 #1602
PODXS 070 Public Relations Director




Re: Giant Pumpkin Breaks Record

Jerry N9AVY
 

Was an SWL  during the Viet Nam war and I remember logging something using the ID, "The Voice of the Purple Pumpkin"  think it was a clandestine CIA op.
 
 
Jerry  n9avy



From: "n7we1980@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 6:38 PM
Subject: [070] Giant Pumpkin Breaks Record

 

Giant Pumpkin Breaks Record at Missouri Festival

 A giant pumpkin weighing over 1,500 pounds broke the record of the largest pumpkin at the Pumpkin Daze festival in Republic, Missouri.
– Fox News 10/10/17
 
 
Our 160m Great Pumpkin Sprint begins this Saturday at 2000 UTC.  For details click HERE.  Will we have the largest ever Great Pumpkin Sprint?  Hope to see you at or near 1.807 MHz!
 
Rick Butz
N7WE - 070 #1602
PODXS 070 Public Relations Director




Giant Pumpkin Breaks Record

Rick - N7WE
 

Giant Pumpkin Breaks Record at Missouri Festival

 A giant pumpkin weighing over 1,500 pounds broke the record of the largest pumpkin at the Pumpkin Daze festival in Republic, Missouri.

– Fox News 10/10/17

 

 

Our 160m Great Pumpkin Sprint begins this Saturday at 2000 UTC.  For details click HERE.  Will we have the largest ever Great Pumpkin Sprint?  Hope to see you at or near 1.807 MHz!

 

Rick Butz

N7WE - 070 #1602

PODXS 070 Public Relations Director



Re: 17m PSK31

mwbesemer mwbesemer <mwbesemer@...>
 

So, run a full gallon and the software actually does all the work. The op can just sit and watch. 

Gee... that sounds like a real blast.  

</SARCASM MODE OFF>


Mike

WM4B



On October 10, 2017 at 4:49 PM "tom@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:

 


So, I'm a least power to make the QSO type guy.  Consider this "devils advocate" since I've seen the discussion several times.  

Because FT8 can't decode as low of a DB level as JT65 and JT9, plus it doesn't have the same redundancy, people started cranking up the power to compensate.

FT8 also doesn't do super well decoding multiple signals on the same frequency.  So, the guy who runs power wins.

People claim that running high power doesn't cause splatter on the waterfall, that other things do (and it's usually on the receiver's side).  I'm not so sure about that, but that's the claim.

73,

Tom KN6Q


---In 070@..., <gdadx2@...> wrote :

I can't imagine running a KW on FT8 or any digital mode.  I have run power on RTTY when trying to work a new one but on daily basis, no way. 

But that would explain why I get comparatively much weaker signal reports even if  bump power up to 50 watts or more.

The power runners argument is that even at 500 watts, you can have a weak signal on the receivers end.   If I could not get a PSK or FT8 signal through at 500 watts, it's time to go fishing.

73 Buddy WB4M

#1545


On 10/10/2017 11:10 AM, Jonathan Wilson eaglescout.jonathan@... [070] wrote:
 


Why would you need to run that much power?  I've logged 70 or so contacts using my FT817 and a dipole in the last 3 days. 


On 10/9/17 6:46 PM, tom@... [070] wrote:
 

Many of the FT8 stations run a full KW. There is a lot of debate between the QRO/QRP people on FT8 groups (it's a weak signal mode, not low power mode).


Yep, Hellschreiber, Olivia, PSK - FT8 steps on lots of things.  Like I said, it's all based on the default settings in WSJT-X.  If they change the frequencies there, everyone will move.  Otherwise it's a lost cause and everything will have to move around them.

73,

Tom KN6Q


---In 070@..., <n9avy@...> wrote :

Ray:
 
14.040  ???   Don't you mean 14.070 ??
 
If there is no specific band plan for he digital modes then there will be chaos.  The FT8 crowd is already QRMing the Hellschreiber crowd.  When the RTTY signals start in Winter season, the FT8 guys will be complaining about QRM on 17m because many RTTY stations run 500 watts to a full KW. and that might be a problem.
 
This whole thing needs to be sorted out before our bands become intolerable.



From: "'Ray Clements' r.clements@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: [070] 17m PSK31

 

As far as ARRL is concerned, PSK does not exist. Neither do most other digital modes. About the only digital modes included in their band plans are RTTY and Packet and SSTV. Beacon frequencies are also assigned.

Even our beloved 14.040 MHz PSK frequency is included as part of the RTTY sub-band. Thus,I guess those who use PSK at that frequency are infringing on the rights of RTTY users. 


Thus, I guess we have no right to complain about FT8 using the same frequency.

Ray N9RWC



------ Original Message ------
Received: 12:17 PM CDT, 10/09/2017
From: "tom@... [070]" <070@...>
To: <070@...>
Subject: Re: [070] 17m PSK31


 
As someone who does both, the FT8 default frequencies are programmed in WSJT-X application (which is still in the release candidate 2 stage for FT8).   The best chance is to get them to change the frequency they use on when the release version (or RC3) comes out by complaining on the group. 

This isn't the only band/mode that has a conflict, I don't FT8 also runs into Olivia on 20 meters.

If your hoping FT8 goes away, I seriously doubt it anytime soon.  It has absolutely dominated every other digital mode for use since it came out.   Even JT65/JT9 modes are pretty dead now, especially JT9.

73,

Tom KN6Q  

---In 070@..., <rickocr2005@...> wrote :

I know I am late to the party, but trying on 17m now.....

Fr Richard
WB8YXF


On Monday, October 9, 2017, 11:46:24 AM EDT, 'Steve Case' artcase@... [070] <070@...> wrote:


 

I was there too for the last half hour, CQ'd saw nothing but FT8 sigs. I agree use it or lose it.
Steve
WA7ETE
PNW
#872
 
 
 

From: "randy true w4rttrandy@... [070]" <070@...>
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 8:41 AM
To: "070@..." <070@...>
Subject: Re: [070] 17m PSK31
 
 
 
Nope, just 20 FT8 signals.
 
Randy W4RTT
 

From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of 'Mike Besemer' mwbesemer@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 11:11 AM
To: 070@...
Subject: RE: [070] 17m PSK31
 
 
 
Not seeing you.  Can you see me?
 
Mike
WM4B
 
From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 11:02 AM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] 17m PSK31
 
 
I'm also there
 
Randy W4RTT
 

From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of 'Mike Besemer' mwbesemer@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 10:57 AM
To: 070@...
Subject: RE: [070] 17m PSK31
 
 
CQing there now.  The FT8 stations moved away from where I’m at.
 
Mike
WM4B
 
From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 10:48 AM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] 17m PSK31
 
 
I just got into the digi modes a couple years ago, and I settled on PSK31 and have loved it. I did notice that whenever I went up to 17 and called there was seldom anyone around. I have made just a hand full of contacts on 17.
I do work FT8 and have mad many contacts on 17. But I try to keep above .100 because it is "our" freq. I think it was mostly, "hey these guys aren't using it, so lets us use it"
As the old saying says, if you don't use it you will lose it.
 
Randy W4RTT
 

From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of Jerry n9avy@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 9:29 AM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] 17m PSK31
 
 
Probably not, but "venting" feels good.     I am hesitant to join another group after cleaning out several groups people urged me to join.  There were days I'd wake up and have way too many emails to answer; so, I purged many email accounts that held little interest. Just don't want to start down that road again.
 
I'm hoping that once the FT8 people tire of the mode, they'll just go away.
 
Jerry  n9avy
 
 


(Message over 64 KB, truncated)



 


 


Re: 17m PSK31

tom@...
 


So, I'm a least power to make the QSO type guy.  Consider this "devils advocate" since I've seen the discussion several times.  

Because FT8 can't decode as low of a DB level as JT65 and JT9, plus it doesn't have the same redundancy, people started cranking up the power to compensate.

FT8 also doesn't do super well decoding multiple signals on the same frequency.  So, the guy who runs power wins.

People claim that running high power doesn't cause splatter on the waterfall, that other things do (and it's usually on the receiver's side).  I'm not so sure about that, but that's the claim.

73,

Tom KN6Q


---In 070@..., <gdadx2@...> wrote :

I can't imagine running a KW on FT8 or any digital mode.  I have run power on RTTY when trying to work a new one but on daily basis, no way. 

But that would explain why I get comparatively much weaker signal reports even if  bump power up to 50 watts or more.

The power runners argument is that even at 500 watts, you can have a weak signal on the receivers end.   If I could not get a PSK or FT8 signal through at 500 watts, it's time to go fishing.

73 Buddy WB4M

#1545


On 10/10/2017 11:10 AM, Jonathan Wilson eaglescout.jonathan@... [070] wrote:
 

Why would you need to run that much power?  I've logged 70 or so contacts using my FT817 and a dipole in the last 3 days. 


On 10/9/17 6:46 PM, tom@... [070] wrote:
 

Many of the FT8 stations run a full KW. There is a lot of debate between the QRO/QRP people on FT8 groups (it's a weak signal mode, not low power mode).


Yep, Hellschreiber, Olivia, PSK - FT8 steps on lots of things.  Like I said, it's all based on the default settings in WSJT-X.  If they change the frequencies there, everyone will move.  Otherwise it's a lost cause and everything will have to move around them.

73,

Tom KN6Q


---In 070@..., <n9avy@...> wrote :

Ray:
 
14.040  ???   Don't you mean 14.070 ??
 
If there is no specific band plan for he digital modes then there will be chaos.  The FT8 crowd is already QRMing the Hellschreiber crowd.  When the RTTY signals start in Winter season, the FT8 guys will be complaining about QRM on 17m because many RTTY stations run 500 watts to a full KW. and that might be a problem.
 
This whole thing needs to be sorted out before our bands become intolerable.



From: "'Ray Clements' r.clements@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: [070] 17m PSK31

 

As far as ARRL is concerned, PSK does not exist. Neither do most other digital modes. About the only digital modes included in their band plans are RTTY and Packet and SSTV. Beacon frequencies are also assigned.

Even our beloved 14.040 MHz PSK frequency is included as part of the RTTY sub-band. Thus,I guess those who use PSK at that frequency are infringing on the rights of RTTY users. 


Thus, I guess we have no right to complain about FT8 using the same frequency.

Ray N9RWC



------ Original Message ------
Received: 12:17 PM CDT, 10/09/2017
From: "tom@... [070]" <070@...>
To: <070@...>
Subject: Re: [070] 17m PSK31


 
As someone who does both, the FT8 default frequencies are programmed in WSJT-X application (which is still in the release candidate 2 stage for FT8).   The best chance is to get them to change the frequency they use on when the release version (or RC3) comes out by complaining on the group. 

This isn't the only band/mode that has a conflict, I don't FT8 also runs into Olivia on 20 meters.

If your hoping FT8 goes away, I seriously doubt it anytime soon.  It has absolutely dominated every other digital mode for use since it came out.   Even JT65/JT9 modes are pretty dead now, especially JT9.

73,

Tom KN6Q  

---In 070@..., <rickocr2005@...> wrote :

I know I am late to the party, but trying on 17m now.....

Fr Richard
WB8YXF


On Monday, October 9, 2017, 11:46:24 AM EDT, 'Steve Case' artcase@... [070] <070@...> wrote:


 
I was there too for the last half hour, CQ'd saw nothing but FT8 sigs. I agree use it or lose it.
Steve
WA7ETE
PNW
#872
 
 
 

From: "randy true w4rttrandy@... [070]" <070@...>
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 8:41 AM
To: "070@..." <070@...>
Subject: Re: [070] 17m PSK31
 
 
 
Nope, just 20 FT8 signals.
 
Randy W4RTT
 

From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of 'Mike Besemer' mwbesemer@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 11:11 AM
To: 070@...
Subject: RE: [070] 17m PSK31
 
 
 
Not seeing you.  Can you see me?
 
Mike
WM4B
 
From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 11:02 AM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] 17m PSK31
 
 
I'm also there
 
Randy W4RTT
 

From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of 'Mike Besemer' mwbesemer@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 10:57 AM
To: 070@...
Subject: RE: [070] 17m PSK31
 
 
CQing there now.  The FT8 stations moved away from where I’m at.
 
Mike
WM4B
 
From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 10:48 AM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] 17m PSK31
 
 
I just got into the digi modes a couple years ago, and I settled on PSK31 and have loved it. I did notice that whenever I went up to 17 and called there was seldom anyone around. I have made just a hand full of contacts on 17.
I do work FT8 and have mad many contacts on 17. But I try to keep above .100 because it is "our" freq. I think it was mostly, "hey these guys aren't using it, so lets us use it"
As the old saying says, if you don't use it you will lose it.
 
Randy W4RTT
 

From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of Jerry n9avy@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 9:29 AM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] 17m PSK31
 
 
Probably not, but "venting" feels good.     I am hesitant to join another group after cleaning out several groups people urged me to join.  There were days I'd wake up and have way too many emails to answer; so, I purged many email accounts that held little interest. Just don't want to start down that road again.
 
I'm hoping that once the FT8 people tire of the mode, they'll just go away.
 
Jerry  n9avy
 
 


(Message over 64 KB, truncated)


Re: 17M

Sid Downey
 

Just had a short QSO with WA7ETE at 18.098 + 500. Started strong but then faded.

Sid
W7JSD
1513

On Oct 10, 2017, at 12:35 PM, kc3ef1@... [070] <070@...> wrote:

 

Just got on 17 and don't see any traces, other than some kind of interference.  Seems like it moved down from from the other day.  Hearing FT8 further up the band.  CQing on 18097 +1500.


Dick
KC3EF


Re: 17m PSK31

WA7ETE #872
 

Just wrkd W7JSD from hear in the PNW sigs were up and down, 18097 +1500
 
 
Steve
WA7ETE
#872


From: "Christopher J LaRue NO7E no7e@... [070]" <070@...>
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 12:56 PM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] 17m PSK31
 
 



On 10/10/17 9:47 AM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] wrote:
> Why run a KW ...  ?

7 Trying to compensate for something.

--
73 de Chris NO7E
no7e@...
no7e@...
702-292-0880
OMISS #10925
PODXS 070 #2551
Feld Hell #5846
 


Re: 17m PSK31

Chris J LaRue NO7E
 

On 10/10/17 9:47 AM, Jerry n9avy@sbcglobal.net [070] wrote:
Why run a KW ...  ?
7 Trying to compensate for something.

--
73 de Chris NO7E
no7e@arrl.net
no7e@cox.net
702-292-0880
OMISS #10925
PODXS 070 #2551
Feld Hell #5846


Re: 17M

Richard Rohrer
 

Just got on 17 and don't see any traces, other than some kind of interference.  Seems like it moved down from from the other day.  Hearing FT8 further up the band.  CQing on 18097 +1500.

Dick
KC3EF


Re: Porkchomps.com

Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@...>
 

Sorry about the spam... I fat fingered that one.

Mike
WM4B

On Oct 10, 2017 3:27 PM, "Mike Besemer mwbesemer@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:



Porkchomps.com

Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@...>
 


365+1 back in action

David, K9DWR
 

I'm back in the window for finishing off my last 5 days...

Oct 11, 22, 30
Nov 8, 25

Hope to see someone this evening. :-)

--
David, K9DWR
#1604 LONP #255
david@graniteweb.com


Re: 17M

Steve VA3FLF/KM4FLF
 

Not seeing you Randy. I noticed K5VP reported my signal on PSK Reporter at 18.1 

Steve 

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 10, 2017, at 15:01, randy true w4rttrandy@... [070] <070@...> wrote:

 

.98/1500


Randy W4RTT




From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of Steve P oldjavadrinker@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 2:49 PM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] 17M
 
 

Where you at on band . I can try and meet you. I called CQ earlier at 18.098. 

I will drop down there . Sent at 1849z.

Steve
VA3FLF
2301

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 10, 2017, at 14:24, randy true w4rttrandy@... [070] <070@...> wrote:

 

Calling, but nobody home😠😠



Randy W4RTT


Re: NU4C - Paul - Completes 366!

Paul Milward <nu4c@...>
 

Thanks to everyone for the email congrats. But more importantly a big thank you to all whom I contacted to achieve this goal. I could not have done it without each and everyone of you. This endorsement was the most fun and most challenging of all 070 awards.
Thanks again
73 de
Paul nu4c #824

On Oct 9, 2017 06:47, "n7we1980@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:
 

He did it!  On 10/8 NU4C - Paul - completed his 366.  He is only the 21st person of 2570+ members to do so.  Congratulations Paul.  Well done!


Paul had previously completed the 24/7 endorsement.  Therefore, he also earned the Clock and Calendar Endorsement for working every day of the year, Leap Day, and every hour block of every day of the week.  He is only the 13th person to reach this phenomenal milestone!


It wasn't easy but he did it!  Please join me in congratulating him on this fine accomplishment!


Rick Butz
N7WE - 070 #1602

PODXS 070 Public Relations Director





Re: 17M

Randy True
 

.98/1500


Randy W4RTT




From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of Steve P oldjavadrinker@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 2:49 PM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] 17M
 
 

Where you at on band . I can try and meet you. I called CQ earlier at 18.098. 

I will drop down there . Sent at 1849z.

Steve
VA3FLF
2301

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 10, 2017, at 14:24, randy true w4rttrandy@... [070] <070@...> wrote:

 

Calling, but nobody home😠😠



Randy W4RTT


Re: 17M

Steve VA3FLF/KM4FLF
 

Where you at on band . I can try and meet you. I called CQ earlier at 18.098. 
I will drop down there . Sent at 1849z.

Steve
VA3FLF
2301

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 10, 2017, at 14:24, randy true w4rttrandy@... [070] <070@...> wrote:

 

Calling, but nobody home😠😠



Randy W4RTT


17M

Randy True
 

Calling, but nobody home😠😠



Randy W4RTT

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