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Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@...>
Been there – done that. I also hit my son with a slingshot launch – and he was standing directly behind me.
Mike WM4B
From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 2:34 PM To: 070 Subject: Re: [070] Re: That Windom [
My skill is to wrap the line around the branch five times. I have several sets of weights hanging in the oaks in my back yard ;-) Bill AG4QX
On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 12:16 PM, mwbesemer@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
I'm a master at 'hitting' limbs with a slingshot and a couple of sinkers. I'm much less talented at getting the sinkers to go OVER the branch.
It's amazing how fast those sinkers will come back at you - DIRECTLY back at you - after hitting a limb.
Mike WM4B
On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 11:09 AM, 'F.R. Ashley' gdadx2@... [070] wrote:
I had previously bought a cheap compound bow and taped a 1/2 oz weight to one of the arrows and can hit limbs up to around 75 feet.
73 Buddy WB4M
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Re: DM49 Expedition
Time is 19:20 UTC. Anyone copying Bryon W7IRV? I've been looking on 20m.
Rick - N7WE 070 - #1602
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Mike Besemer <mwbesemer@...>
I live in an area filled with pine and oak. During the summer, nothing short of a cannonball will get through.
I build and air launcher and it works fine in the fall. In the summertime it’s pretty much useless.
A drone won’t be any better (or at least not much) but I want one anyway!
Mike WM4B
From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 2:19 PM To: 070@... Subject: Re: [070] Re: That Windom [
Invest in some PVC and you can pick a reel up at a yard sale. The air launchers really do work. I have short trees, but 100" is realistic.
Randy W4RTT
From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of mwbesemer@... [070] <070@...>
I'm a master at 'hitting' limbs with a slingshot and a couple of sinkers. I'm much less talented at getting the sinkers to go OVER the branch.
It's amazing how fast those sinkers will come back at you - DIRECTLY back at you - after hitting a limb.
Mike WM4B
On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 11:09 AM, 'F.R. Ashley' gdadx2@... [070] wrote:
I had previously bought a cheap compound bow and taped a 1/2 oz weight to one of the arrows and can hit limbs up to around 75 feet.
73 Buddy WB4M
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This isn't mine, but very close.One hint; make the barrel out of 1 1/4. This way you can make projectiles out of short lengths of 1" PVC with end caps. They make a nice fit in the 1 1/4. Put some pennies in the projectile to give it some weight, about an
ounce, and put an eye bolt in one end. 40lbs of pressure will put it over a 40' tree. Use some cheap bulk 20lb test line. Some say 2lb is OK, but you WILL break lighter line.
Randy W4RTT
From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of Jerry n9avy@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 2:01 PM To: 070@... Subject: Re: [070] Re: That Windom [ Mike:
Thought I save a set of plans for building an air-powered antenna launcher that used a tennis ball (far less destructive that a sinker), but as usual
can't find it. Thought about building one and remember a friend bought one at Dayton a few years ago for $59 and said it was better than slingshot, fishing pole and spud gun. It might be somewhere on the net.
Jerry n9avy
From: "mwbesemer@... [070]" <070@...> To: 070@... Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [070] Re: That Windom [ I'm a master at 'hitting' limbs with a slingshot and a couple of sinkers. I'm much less talented at getting the sinkers to go OVER the branch.
It's amazing how fast those sinkers will come back at you - DIRECTLY back at you - after hitting a limb.
Mike
WM4B
On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 11:09 AM, 'F.R. Ashley' gdadx2@... [070] wrote:
I had previously bought a cheap compound bow and taped a 1/2 oz weight to one of the arrows and can hit limbs up to around 75 feet.
73 Buddy WB4M
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Re: DM49 Expedition
boat.anchor@...
Bryon
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Everyone else probably stuck to UT grids while I ventured further afield in case you need a camping destination. Best regards Barry ---In 070@..., <nnegrom@...> wrote : I've never operated in this location of DM49, my parents just recently moved down there. If I cannot get you this time, I'll see if I can make another visit soon. It is about 2 hours from my house. I will see if I can leave earlier in the day which would give me an approx arrival time of 10a Mountain time. I will have to be off air and on the road by 230p Mountain time. VA7GEM: There are a lot of people that need DM39 and it is one of the easier ones to get to. I'm working on going APE there in August. The DM47 is also needed, but is a very long distance from my house. I'll need to plan a weekend for that one. That could be a good winter trip for me. DM28 is far, but is still doable. That is in Nevada. I'll work on getting there, but at this time, you are the only one requesting it. Thanks, Bryon, W7RIV
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Re: That Windom
Plus will not get you over large trees And can’t get it a lot of places
======================== de N2MLP Brian Monroe County PA
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From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 2:35 PM To: 070@... Subject: Re: [070] Re: That Windom
Considered buying a used bucket truck which I could write off as business expense, but cheapest I could find was around $10k and just couldn't justify that expense. Besides, heard that hydraulics have to be certified every few year
Rental of them starts at about $.300 and up !
So, I'll stick to hiring a climber when needed.
Jerry. N9AVY
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F.R. Ashley
I still have 2 aluminum shaft arrows in one tree, they've been up there 10 years or more. Birds just love their fancy perches, lol. 73 Buddy WB4M
On 7/25/2017 2:33 PM, Bill Williams
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Considered buying a used bucket truck which I could write off as business expense, but cheapest I could find was around $10k and just couldn't justify that expense. Besides, heard that hydraulics have to be certified every few year Rental of them starts at about $.300 and up ! So, I'll stick to hiring a climber when needed. Jerry. N9AVY Sent from my iPhone
On 25 Jul 2017, at 13:20, "randy true w4rttrandy@... [070]" <070@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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My skill is to wrap the line around the branch five times. I have several sets of weights hanging in the oaks in my back yard ;-) Bill AG4QX 0398
On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 12:16 PM, mwbesemer@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
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Been using a crossbow last few years Can shot over anything
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From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 2:21 PM To: 070@... Subject: Re: [070] Re: That Windom
NO FAIR, CHEAT CHEAT!
Good for you Charles, LOL
Randy W4RTT
From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of Charles Odom ki4vmk@... [070] <070@...>
I am very fortunate and thankful to have a friend with a bucket truck. I put a 3 ft extension with a pulley and rope off the top of my 60 ft tower. I can let my 80 meter Windom up and down. Works great, only need a tuner on 15 meter band. Have a regular 60 meter dipole at about 45 feet that works 60 and 30 meters. Charles KI4VMK # 2542 On Jul 25, 2017, at 10:52 AM, "randy true w4rttrandy@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:
I have my 80M OCF supported at the feedpoint on a 36' pushup mast. Used a compressed air launcher to get the ends over trees at either end. Each end is approx 35' or so.
Randy W4RTT
From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of Bill Garwood n4gbk@... [070] <070@...>
Hi Rick,
My Carolina Windom 160 is about 20 feet off the ground at the short end and 35 feet up on the long end. The OCF feedline is 22 feet long and it just clears the ground. The manufacturer recommends 40 feet or higher for this model. I"m sure it would perform better on 160 and 80 if I could get it up higher but I have lots of QSOs on both of those bands. See picture of feed. The Carolina Windom is a trademarked antenna sold by The Radio Works. http://www.radioworks.com/.
I see on their site that they are shutting down soon. The owner is getting older and needs to cut back. I hope someone, somewhere picks up the Carolina Windom line of antennas as everyone I've ever spoken with has nothing but good things to say. This design has a vertical and a horizontal radiator that seems to make it work better than some other wire antennas. I know there are folks who swear by their G5RV, Bazooka and all sorts of trap antennas. I get it. An 80 meter version may be what you can use?
Mine has been up continuously for over 4 years. I used some black, UV protected, stretchy rope that I bought with the antenna at a Ham Fest. The slingshot antenna launcher eventually got it into the trees. My aim was not good. "You'll shoot your eye out". No pulleys etc. Wrapped a long length of the rope around the tree at each end and I think that might also have some give and take in the wind. It bounces up and down a lot in high winds. It does get very windy here and it has stayed up during tropical storms, Nor'easters and thunderstorms. I am just a few miles from the Amazon Wind Farm so we got wind. http://www.avangridrenewables.us/amazonwind/
I guess they are now using drones to get antennas into trees? It should be much more accurate than the slingshot. Anyway, the antenna off center feed balun needs some kind of support. A fiberglass pole or tree. Let me know if you have other questions.
73 and Happy Radio!
Bill N4GBK
From: Rick Butz
Hi Bill - Read your post on 070 and wanted to ask about your Carolina Windom. I'm HOA restricted here to a vertical, but do have a couple of Oak trees in the back of the house (that opens up to wetlands and a river - no one behind me). I definitely need some additional antenna, particularly for the lower bands and near distance. I'm hoping I can do a stealth install that the roof line will block from view. You mentioned that your install is low. How high is it? Are you installed using trees? I'm not sure how I get a Windom up in them. My tree climbing days are over... hi hi! Trusty sling shot I guess. If you are using trees, I'd appreciate any suggestions about pulleys and weights and so forth to handle the movement. TU & 73, Rick - N7WE
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NO FAIR, CHEAT CHEAT!
Good for you Charles, LOL
Randy W4RTT
From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of Charles Odom ki4vmk@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 1:10 PM To: PODXS Cc: PODXS Subject: Re: [070] Re: That Windom [1 Attachment] I am very fortunate and thankful to have a friend with a bucket truck. I put a 3 ft extension with a pulley and rope off the top of my 60 ft tower. I can let my 80 meter Windom up and down. Works great, only need a tuner on 15 meter band. Have
a regular 60 meter dipole at about 45 feet that works 60 and 30 meters.
Charles
KI4VMK # 2542
On Jul 25, 2017, at 10:52 AM, "randy true w4rttrandy@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:
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Invest in some PVC and you can pick a reel up at a yard sale. The air launchers really do work. I have short trees, but 100" is realistic.
Randy W4RTT
From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of mwbesemer@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 1:16 PM To: 070@... Subject: Re: [070] Re: That Windom [ I'm a master at 'hitting' limbs with a slingshot and a couple of sinkers. I'm much less talented at getting the sinkers to go OVER the branch.
It's amazing how fast those sinkers will come back at you - DIRECTLY back at you - after hitting a limb.
Mike
WM4B
On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 11:09 AM, 'F.R. Ashley' gdadx2@... [070] wrote:
I had previously bought a cheap compound bow and taped a 1/2 oz weight to one of the arrows and can hit limbs up to around 75 feet.
73 Buddy WB4M
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Mike: Thought I save a set of plans for building an air-powered antenna launcher that used a tennis ball (far less destructive that a sinker), but as usual can't find it. Thought about building one and remember a friend bought one at Dayton a few years ago for $59 and said it was better than slingshot, fishing pole and spud gun. It might be somewhere on the net. Jerry n9avy
From: "mwbesemer@... [070]" <070@...> To: 070@... Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [070] Re: That Windom [ I'm a master at 'hitting' limbs with a slingshot and a couple of sinkers. I'm much less talented at getting the sinkers to go OVER the branch. It's amazing how fast those sinkers will come back at you - DIRECTLY back at you - after hitting a limb. Mike WM4B On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 11:09 AM, 'F.R. Ashley' gdadx2@... [070] wrote: I had previously bought a cheap compound bow and taped a 1/2 oz weight to one of the arrows and can hit limbs up to around 75 feet. 73 Buddy WB4M
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Re: DM49 Expedition
Paul Milward <nu4c@...>
Bryon I also need DM39 & DM47 I'll be listening for you 20m is probably best 73 de Paul nu4c
From: "Bryon nnegrom@... [070]" <070@...> To: "070@..." <070@...> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [070] DM49 Expedition I've never operated in this location of DM49, my parents just recently moved down there. If I cannot get you this time, I'll see if I can make another visit soon. It is about 2 hours from my house. I will see if I can leave earlier in the day which would give me an approx arrival time of 10a Mountain time. I will have to be off air and on the road by 230p Mountain time. VA7GEM: There are a lot of people that need DM39 and it is one of the easier ones to get to. I'm working on going APE there in August. The DM47 is also needed, but is a very long distance from my house. I'll need to plan a weekend for that one. That could be a good winter trip for me. DM28 is far, but is still doable. That is in Nevada. I'll work on getting there, but at this time, you are the only one requesting it. Thanks, Bryon, W7RIV On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 8:06 AM, boat.anchor@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
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Charles Odom <ki4vmk@...>
I am very fortunate and thankful to have a friend with a bucket truck. I put a 3 ft extension with a pulley and rope off the top of my 60 ft tower. I can let my 80 meter Windom up and down. Works great, only need a tuner on 15 meter band. Have a regular 60 meter dipole at about 45 feet that works 60 and 30 meters.
Charles
KI4VMK # 2542
On Jul 25, 2017, at 10:52 AM, "randy true w4rttrandy@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:
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W7RIV
I've never operated in this location of DM49, my parents just recently moved down there. If I cannot get you this time, I'll see if I can make another visit soon. It is about 2 hours from my house. I will see if I can leave earlier in the day which would give me an approx arrival time of 10a Mountain time. I will have to be off air and on the road by 230p Mountain time. VA7GEM: There are a lot of people that need DM39 and it is one of the easier ones to get to. I'm working on going APE there in August. The DM47 is also needed, but is a very long distance from my house. I'll need to plan a weekend for that one. That could be a good winter trip for me. DM28 is far, but is still doable. That is in Nevada. I'll work on getting there, but at this time, you are the only one requesting it. Thanks, Bryon, W7RIV
On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 8:06 AM, boat.anchor@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
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I have my 80M OCF supported at the feedpoint on a 36' pushup mast. Used a compressed air launcher to get the ends over trees at either end. Each end is approx 35' or so.
Randy W4RTT
From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of Bill Garwood n4gbk@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 9:02 PM To: Rick Butz; 070@... Subject: [070] Re: That Windom [1 Attachment] Hi Rick,
My Carolina Windom 160 is about 20 feet off the ground at the short end and 35 feet up on the long end. The OCF feedline is 22 feet long and it just clears the ground. The manufacturer recommends 40 feet or higher for this model. I"m sure it would perform better on 160 and 80 if I could get it up higher but I have lots of QSOs on both of those bands. See picture of feed. The Carolina Windom is a trademarked antenna sold by The Radio Works. http://www.radioworks.com/.
I see on their site that they are shutting down soon. The owner is getting older and needs to cut back. I hope someone, somewhere picks up the Carolina Windom line of antennas as everyone I've ever spoken with has nothing but good things to say. This design has a vertical and a horizontal radiator that seems to make it work better than some other wire antennas. I know there are folks who swear by their G5RV, Bazooka and all sorts of trap antennas. I get it. An 80 meter version may be what you can use?
Mine has been up continuously for over 4 years. I used some black, UV protected, stretchy rope that I bought with the antenna at a Ham Fest. The slingshot antenna launcher eventually got it into the trees. My aim was not good. "You'll shoot your eye out". No pulleys etc. Wrapped a long length of the rope around the tree at each end and I think that might also have some give and take in the wind. It bounces up and down a lot in high winds. It does get very windy here and it has stayed up during tropical storms, Nor'easters and thunderstorms. I am just a few miles from the Amazon Wind Farm so we got wind. http://www.avangridrenewables.us/amazonwind/
I guess they are now using drones to get antennas into trees? It should be much more accurate than the slingshot. Anyway, the antenna off center feed balun needs some kind of support. A fiberglass pole or tree. Let me know if you have other questions.
73 and Happy Radio!
From: Rick Butz
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 5:23:50 PM To: N4GBK Subject: That Windom Hi Bill - Read your post on 070 and wanted to ask about your Carolina Windom. I'm HOA restricted here to a vertical, but do have a couple of Oak trees in the back of the house (that opens up to wetlands and a river - no one behind me). I definitely need some additional antenna, particularly for the lower bands and near distance. I'm hoping I can do a stealth install that the roof line will block from view. You mentioned that your install is low. How high is it? Are you installed using trees? I'm not sure how I get a Windom up in them. My tree climbing days are over... hi hi! Trusty sling shot I guess. If you are using trees, I'd appreciate any suggestions about pulleys and weights and so forth to handle the movement. TU & 73, Rick - N7WE
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F.R. Ashley
My brother in law has a Phantom 3 drone and is a master at flying
it. I had him fly a line over a tree too! He also "measured" the
heights of some of my trees my hovering the drone just slightly
above the tree.
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I had previously bought a cheap compound bow and taped a 1/2 oz weight to one of the arrows and can hit limbs up to around 75 feet. To get higher I'd need a stronger bow. I just lost my OCF dipole in storm so will get in more archery practice, hi 73 Buddy WB4M
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Bill Garwood
Ok, I'll be checking 20 meters this afternoon. Have fun and be safe.
73, Bill N4GBK FM16 NC
From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of boat.anchor@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 10:06:13 AM To: 070@... Subject: RE: [070] DM49 Expedition Bryon
If the opportunity ever comes up I am looking for DM38, DM,39 and DM47
If you should stray far from home I also need DM28
Best regards
Barry
VB7150/VA7GEM/CF7GEM
BTW your ARRL email is bouncing
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