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Re: Question ?

Steve W3HF
 

A couple of comments on name changes in the FCC ULS.


- Yes, it can be done. It's possible that the change is made at the FRN level and not the license level, so it might affect any licenses tied to that FRN.

- FCC is a little lax in that it doesn't require your legal name (like a passport would), but lets you use simple nicknames (like Jerry for Jerald).

- Interestingly, they also do not require a full given name. It's possible to force their system to list a first initial and a middle name. Check out club member K9VIC for an example.

- I guess by combining #2 and #2 above, it may be possible for Buddy WB4M to be listed as F. Ray Ashley. (I can't think of a way to get it to list "Buddy" as the name.)

- Name changes like this are as easy to file as address changes.


Steve

W3HF


Re: Question ?

Jerry N9AVY
 

Wow !   Didn't expect to get whole lot of answers from my little question.  Thanks everyone !!!
 
So, it looks as though QRZ and other call sign downloading programs are to blame for the impersonal/rudeness of many stations sending first and last names in the exchange.  Also, those who write the software  like HRD/DM780 and perhaps others.  Also, the operators who use HRD and do not know that it's changeable in the menu.  I know I have downloaded that feature with N3FJP, but it doesn't do that over the air because all my logging is done on MixW. 
 
In order to change QRZ name, you have to go to FCC or Industry Canada and make required changed on their sites because QRZ and others download their info from those sites.  That how I made my change from Jerald  to Jerry (my Mother only called my Jerald when she was mad at me !).
 
This is probably another  thing that should be covered in the FAQ/manual on the 070 home page,
 
I have MixW configured so that when I work someone again, their name, QTH and date of last QSO comes up. Hope  it makes them feel more at ease.  If it was for software doing that, I'd be lost with over 13,000  digital contacts in the log !
 
Had a business phone the other day from a "Sean or Shawn" and I was asked a question to which I answered politely "yes sir" and the answer came back  that Shawn was a woman.  She had a deeper voice than most women , I profusely apologized ! 
 
When working some DX, because of the name given and the simple fact there's no voice to go on, we just have to guess.  Which is why I try to avoid using  OM/YL.
 
Maybe when some replies with my full name , I should substitute "Dear Sir or Madam " ,  hi !  hi ! (telegraphic laugh like LOL)
 
Jerry  N9AVY
 
 



From: "Jerry n9avy@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070 List Service 070 List Service <070@...>
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 8:49 AM
Subject: [070] Question ?

 

Lately I've been working a lot of station  who when answering a call, send both my first and last names ?   What's up with this ???   It seems to not be in the Amateur Radio tradition of just sending one's first name.  Seems to me kind of like junk mail and very impersonal.  
 
Just curious...
 
Jerry N9AVY



Re: PSK31 Technical Info on PODXS Website?

ljl2002@att.net
 

Hey Jim,
Would that be Gulf Coast or Golf Coast.
There was a little QSB on your last. Hi Hi HI
Have fun!!!

73
Joe
KA1PPV  #1482


On Thursday, July 13, 2017 2:23 PM, "Jerry n9avy@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:


 
I agree Jim !
 
Jerry  N9AVY



From: "Jim Innis jinnis@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 8:48 AM
Subject: Re: [070] PSK31 Technical Info on PODXS Website?

 
The website would be the best place for ALL hams to get information. The reflector is members only!

BTW still on vacation, gulf coast is great. 

JIM K5SP #483



Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S®6 active, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone

-------- Original message --------
From: "Jerry n9avy@... [070]" <070@...>
Date: 7/12/17 7:55 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] PSK31 Technical Info on PODXS Website?

 
There's a files section on the yahoogroup  for this info.
 
Jerry  N9AVY



From: "Bill Garwood n4gbk@... [070]" <070@...>
To: "070@..." <070@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 7:31 PM
Subject: [070] PSK31 Technical Info on PODXS Website?

 
Hello Folks,

This 070 Reflector continues to provide members with all sorts of good information about PSK31 operating.  I wonder if we might consider a more prominent spot on the PODXS 070 Club website to assist PSK31 operators and potential operators with some of this good information?  Sort of a catch all for the important stuff.  I see our club as being one of the premier PSK31 organizations in the world who could assist operators and encourage more hams to try this fun mode.

Some suggestions based on recent posts:
Setting up sound cards..how to configure a PC to work with USB controlled radios..this might just be a series of links to good sites..keep the beeps off the air.
PSK31 operating in contests..the good and bad of macros and working DX stations.  
Recent PSK31 Field Day complaints with over-powered and maladjusted stations.  (A short article in QST sometime in 2018 might help mitigate some of this.)
PSK Frequencies..this comes up fairly often..what is the PSK31 frequency for 6 meters or 160 meters etc.  There is a band plan..help folks find it.
Help with the contest scorer and awards scorer..seems the same questions come up over and over again from newer members.
Maybe have a technical editor for the club or similar..someone with a good handle on PSK31 operating, software etc.

Just some suggestions..

Thanks and Happy Radio!

Bill N4GBK #1688 LONP #252







Re: PSK31 Technical Info on PODXS Website?

Jerry N9AVY
 

I agree Jim !
 
Jerry  N9AVY



From: "Jim Innis jinnis@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 8:48 AM
Subject: Re: [070] PSK31 Technical Info on PODXS Website?

 
The website would be the best place for ALL hams to get information. The reflector is members only!

BTW still on vacation, gulf coast is great. 

JIM K5SP #483



Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S®6 active, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone

-------- Original message --------
From: "Jerry n9avy@... [070]" <070@...>
Date: 7/12/17 7:55 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] PSK31 Technical Info on PODXS Website?

 
There's a files section on the yahoogroup  for this info.
 
Jerry  N9AVY



From: "Bill Garwood n4gbk@... [070]" <070@...>
To: "070@..." <070@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 7:31 PM
Subject: [070] PSK31 Technical Info on PODXS Website?

 
Hello Folks,

This 070 Reflector continues to provide members with all sorts of good information about PSK31 operating.  I wonder if we might consider a more prominent spot on the PODXS 070 Club website to assist PSK31 operators and potential operators with some of this good information?  Sort of a catch all for the important stuff.  I see our club as being one of the premier PSK31 organizations in the world who could assist operators and encourage more hams to try this fun mode.

Some suggestions based on recent posts:
Setting up sound cards..how to configure a PC to work with USB controlled radios..this might just be a series of links to good sites..keep the beeps off the air.
PSK31 operating in contests..the good and bad of macros and working DX stations.  
Recent PSK31 Field Day complaints with over-powered and maladjusted stations.  (A short article in QST sometime in 2018 might help mitigate some of this.)
PSK Frequencies..this comes up fairly often..what is the PSK31 frequency for 6 meters or 160 meters etc.  There is a band plan..help folks find it.
Help with the contest scorer and awards scorer..seems the same questions come up over and over again from newer members.
Maybe have a technical editor for the club or similar..someone with a good handle on PSK31 operating, software etc.

Just some suggestions..

Thanks and Happy Radio!

Bill N4GBK #1688 LONP #252





Re: Question ?

Dan Morris - KZ3T
 

Well, I was close haha — 

Dan Morris

I live to live for Him!






On Jul 13, 2017, at 2:03 PM, mwbesemer@... [070] <070@...> wrote:




On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 1:43 PM, Dan Morris dbmorris315@... [070] wrote:

   Haha Mike — Like the ole comedian who used to say: 

You can call me Ray , you can call me RayJay but just don’t call me Raymond!!! 



Re: Question ?

mwbesemer@...
 


Re: Question ?

Steve VA3FLF/KM4FLF
 

Haha. I thought it but didn't say because I figured no one else would remember that one. 

Steve 
2301

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 13, 2017, at 13:43, Dan Morris dbmorris315@... [070] <070@...> wrote:

 

Haha Mike — Like the ole comedian who used to say:


You can call me Ray , you can call me RayJay but just don’t call me Raymond!!!

Dan Morris  KZ3T

I live to live for Him!



On Jul 13, 2017, at 10:01 AM, mwbesemer@... [070] <070@...> wrote:

 


Similar to macros that automatically populate the 'name' field from a callbook lookup.

When I first got this call, I became 'Charlie' for several years until all the websites had updated.  Now I'm 'Michael' - which I've never been called by anyone.

Personally, I won't call someone by name in a QSO until they give it to me; I don't address them at all until I get a name, lest I used the traditional 'OM' when I actually have a YL on the other end. 

'Back in the day', most of us didn't consider it a good contact unless we copied RS(T), Name, and QTH.  Unfotunately, many (most) of the old traditions are gone.  Some folks get upset if you want a 'real' QSL card from them; when I got my ticket, a QSL was considered 'the final courtesy' of a QSO and nearly everyone sent them for every contact.  Now it's pretty much LOTW or nothing. 

We've got more modes, better radios, and neater toys these days, but we're missing something really important.


Mike (not Michael, Charles, or Charlie)
WM4B


On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 9:49 AM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] wrote:

  
Lately I've been working a lot of station  who when answering a call, send both my first and last names ?   What's up with this ???   It seems to not be in the Amateur Radio tradition of just sending one's first name.  Seems to me kind of like junk mail and very impersonal.  
 
Just curious...
 
Jerry N9AVY



Re: Question ?

mwbesemer@...
 


Re: Question ?

Dan Morris - KZ3T
 

Haha Mike — Like the ole comedian who used to say:

You can call me Ray , you can call me RayJay but just don’t call me Raymond!!!

Dan Morris  KZ3T

I live to live for Him!



On Jul 13, 2017, at 10:01 AM, mwbesemer@... [070] <070@...> wrote:

 


Similar to macros that automatically populate the 'name' field from a callbook lookup.

When I first got this call, I became 'Charlie' for several years until all the websites had updated.  Now I'm 'Michael' - which I've never been called by anyone.

Personally, I won't call someone by name in a QSO until they give it to me; I don't address them at all until I get a name, lest I used the traditional 'OM' when I actually have a YL on the other end. 

'Back in the day', most of us didn't consider it a good contact unless we copied RS(T), Name, and QTH.  Unfotunately, many (most) of the old traditions are gone.  Some folks get upset if you want a 'real' QSL card from them; when I got my ticket, a QSL was considered 'the final courtesy' of a QSO and nearly everyone sent them for every contact.  Now it's pretty much LOTW or nothing. 

We've got more modes, better radios, and neater toys these days, but we're missing something really important.


Mike (not Michael, Charles, or Charlie)
WM4B


On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 9:49 AM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] wrote:

  
Lately I've been working a lot of station  who when answering a call, send both my first and last names ?   What's up with this ???   It seems to not be in the Amateur Radio tradition of just sending one's first name.  Seems to me kind of like junk mail and very impersonal.  
 
Just curious...
 
Jerry N9AVY



Re: Question ?

Dan Morris - KZ3T
 

Well, their program is probably bringing up the QRZ names and using the whole name and they don’t change it in the ‘name’ data field.  They just use what goes in the macro.  I’ve had a lot of stations do that with me also, even after I give them my name as “DAN” and they come back with either Daniel or Daniel G. Morris — Go figure!!

Dan Morris  KZ3T

I live to live for Him!



On Jul 13, 2017, at 9:49 AM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] <070@...> wrote:



Lately I've been working a lot of station  who when answering a call, send both my first and last names ?   What's up with this ???   It seems to not be in the Amateur Radio tradition of just sending one's first name.  Seems to me kind of like junk mail and very impersonal.   
 
Just curious...
 
Jerry N9AVY



Re: PSK31 Technical Info on PODXS Website?

Rick - N7WE
 

Bill, Jerry, Jim, et al....

I agree.  This could be a great contribution to the PSK world.  Steve W3HF has provided a great start with his articles in the FAQ section of the website.  And I also agree, it should be on the website, not just the 070 Yahoo Group.  That way it would be available to all hams.

Some of the questions that come to mind are:
1.  How would potential postings be submitted?
2.  Who would they be submitted to?
3.  What would be the review process before a submission was posted?  (Wouldn't want to post wrong information - there is already enough plain wrong stuff on the Web - IMHO!) 
4.  Should it be an extension of the FAQs or a new separate Tech Section
5.  Who would post approved items to the website? (I don't know who is webmaster for the site these days, but they would certainly have to be involved in posting up articles.  Do they have the time to do so?)
6.  How would the postings be maintained/updated as things change?

If this were a go, I've got a few write ups from things I've learned (like how to log portable ops from multiple sites to LoTW, how to record Tx power in HRD logbook, how to create Alarm Files for DM780 from the Membership and LONP list, etc.) that I could offer up.

Any thoughts on if or how to move this forward?

Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602
 


Re: Question ?

David, K9DWR
 

On Jul 13, 2017, at 10:47, Bill Garwood n4gbk@... [070] <070@...> wrote:


Don't think it can be done. My commercial licenses and ham license tied together deep in the fcc world. I think it has my ssn?


OOPS.
I did not know that. I wonder how difficult or easy it is to make a change on the FCC database.

Paul NU4C
Definitely doable. I changed mine because I got tired of the same problems everyone else has described here; getting automated lookup garbage.

The real issue is not the update in the FCC database, it’s the update in the 3rd-party systems. That tends to lag behind a bit, but it does eventually get updated.



David, K9DWR
k9dwr@...


Re: Question ?

mwbesemer@...
 


Re: Question ?

F.R. Ashley
 

Lol,

I'm have opposite problem. My middle name is Ray but everyone tries to call me Raymond or Raeford

73 Buddy (sometimes Ray, never Frederick)

WB4M

1545


On 7/13/2017 11:02 AM, 'Ray Clements' r.clements@... [070] wrote:

 

In the FCC records I am listed as Raymond. However, everyone has called me Ray for the past 50 years (well, except my mother who has been dead for the past 10 years). What irks me is when I send my name as Ray in my exchange and some operators are too lazy to log my name as Ray. Or perhaps they have no typing skills.

Some contests require a name to be recorded in the contest exchange and the QSO does not count unless the name copied is whatever was sent over the air, not what is shown in the call books. In an effort to speed up exchanges, most operators will shorten their names. For example, Constantine might shorten his name to Stan. Thus, it is best to get in the habit of logging the name operators send in their exchanges. Besides it is the friendly thing to do.

N9RWC Ray (not Raymond)







------ Original Message ------
Received: 09:41 AM CDT, 07/13/2017
From: "'F.R. Ashley' gdadx2@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] Question ?


 

Macros that insert your name is nothing new. But just love it when I get a 73 macro with my first name, middle initial, and last name inserted. I also have never gone by my first name, and have had the nickname of Buddy since I was a little boy.  Those who do use my real name use my middle name.  I also don't call anyone by their name until they tell me at the start of a QSO, they need to properly introduce themselves!

73 Buddy WB4M


On 7/13/2017 10:01 AM, mwbesemer@... [070] wrote:
 

Similar to macros that automatically populate the 'name' field from a callbook lookup.

When I first got this call, I became 'Charlie' for several years until all the websites had updated.  Now I'm 'Michael' - which I've never been called by anyone.

Personally, I won't call someone by name in a QSO until they give it to me; I don't address them at all until I get a name, lest I used the traditional 'OM' when I actually have a YL on the other end. 

'Back in the day', most of us didn't consider it a good contact unless we copied RS(T), Name, and QTH.  Unfotunately, many (most) of the old traditions are gone.  Some folks get upset if you want a 'real' QSL card from them; when I got my ticket, a QSL was considered 'the final courtesy' of a QSO and nearly everyone sent them for every contact.  Now it's pretty much LOTW or nothing. 

We've got more modes, better radios, and neater toys these days, but we're missing something really important.


Mike (not Michael, Charles, or Charlie)
WM4B







Re: Question ?

Paula K7PAX #1739
 

Also, when someone gives their name, and it is different from the lookup prefill, I immediately change the log to reflect what they sent, and HRD logbook remembers that name for the call on subsequent log entries. Also, any macros used during the QSO automatically pick up my change. That way I can keep it sorta personal, even when using macros.

Paula K7PAX

On Jul 13, 2017, at 8:17 AM, boat.anchor@... [070] <070@...> wrote:

 

Good point Paula


at least QSOs with you are all kybd and no macros.
Keep up the good work.

Barry



---In 070@..., wrote :

It’s the software – when it is set to do a QRZ lookup, it pulls first and last name. At least in HRD, there is a setting to use first name only in the macros.
But if you don’t have the box checked, it will be first and last name by default. And folks new to ham radio don’t know the traditions . . . I guess we should be glad they are wanting to use our name at all!

 

Paula K7PAX


Re: Question ?

Jerry N9AVY
 

Pretty easy . Changed mine a few years ago because I got tired of being called Jerald !

Jerry n9avy

Sent from my iPhone

On 13 Jul 2017, at 10:42, "Paul nu4c@... [070]" <070@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

OOPS. 
I did not know that. I wonder how difficult or easy it is to make a change on the FCC database.

Paul NU4C 



Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A

-------- Original message --------
From: "randy true w4rttrandy@... [070]" <070@yahoogroups.com>
Date: 7/13/17 11:23 (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [070] Question ?

 

To change your name on QRZ, you have to change your FCC info.


Randy

W4RTT




From: 070@yahoogroups.com <070@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of boat.anchor@... [070] <070@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 11:20 AM
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [070] Question ?
 
 

Paul


I tried that for weeks on end and finally concluded that QRZ does a database update from industry canada quite frequently so no matter what I change it to within a couple days it is back to what the govmnt has on record.
Barry



---In 070@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Ray,
Here's  a simple fix. Go to QRZ.com and edit your page. Just change your first to Ray and save the change.
73
Paul NU4C



Re: Question ?

Bill Garwood
 

Don't think it can be done.  My commercial licenses and ham license tied together deep in the fcc world.  I think it has my ssn?



From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of Paul nu4c@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 11:42:18 AM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] Question ?
 
 

OOPS. 
I did not know that. I wonder how difficult or easy it is to make a change on the FCC database.

Paul NU4C 



Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A

-------- Original message --------
From: "randy true w4rttrandy@... [070]" <070@...>
Date: 7/13/17 11:23 (GMT-05:00)
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] Question ?

 

To change your name on QRZ, you have to change your FCC info.


Randy

W4RTT




From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of boat.anchor@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 11:20 AM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] Question ?
 
 

Paul


I tried that for weeks on end and finally concluded that QRZ does a database update from industry canada quite frequently so no matter what I change it to within a couple days it is back to what the govmnt has on record.
Barry



---In 070@..., wrote :

Ray,
Here's  a simple fix. Go to QRZ.com and edit your page. Just change your first to Ray and save the change.
73
Paul NU4C



Re: Question ?

Paul <nu4c@...>
 

OOPS. 
I did not know that. I wonder how difficult or easy it is to make a change on the FCC database.

Paul NU4C 



Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A

-------- Original message --------
From: "randy true w4rttrandy@... [070]" <070@...>
Date: 7/13/17 11:23 (GMT-05:00)
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] Question ?

 

To change your name on QRZ, you have to change your FCC info.


Randy

W4RTT




From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of boat.anchor@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 11:20 AM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] Question ?
 
 

Paul


I tried that for weeks on end and finally concluded that QRZ does a database update from industry canada quite frequently so no matter what I change it to within a couple days it is back to what the govmnt has on record.
Barry



---In 070@..., <nu4c@...> wrote :

Ray,
Here's  a simple fix. Go to QRZ.com and edit your page. Just change your first to Ray and save the change.
73
Paul NU4C



Re: Question ?

Randy True
 

To change your name on QRZ, you have to change your FCC info.


Randy

W4RTT




From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of boat.anchor@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 11:20 AM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] Question ?
 
 

Paul


I tried that for weeks on end and finally concluded that QRZ does a database update from industry canada quite frequently so no matter what I change it to within a couple days it is back to what the govmnt has on record.
Barry



---In 070@..., <nu4c@...> wrote :

Ray,
Here's  a simple fix. Go to QRZ.com and edit your page. Just change your first to Ray and save the change.
73
Paul NU4C



Re: Question ?

boat.anchor@...
 

Paul

I tried that for weeks on end and finally concluded that QRZ does a database update from industry canada quite frequently so no matter what I change it to within a couple days it is back to what the govmnt has on record.
Barry



---In 070@..., <nu4c@...> wrote :

Ray,
Here's  a simple fix. Go to QRZ.com and edit your page. Just change your first to Ray and save the change.
73
Paul NU4C


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