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Re: Question ?

Paul <nu4c@...>
 

OOPS. 
I did not know that. I wonder how difficult or easy it is to make a change on the FCC database.

Paul NU4C 



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-------- Original message --------
From: "randy true w4rttrandy@... [070]" <070@...>
Date: 7/13/17 11:23 (GMT-05:00)
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] Question ?

 

To change your name on QRZ, you have to change your FCC info.


Randy

W4RTT




From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of boat.anchor@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 11:20 AM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] Question ?
 
 

Paul


I tried that for weeks on end and finally concluded that QRZ does a database update from industry canada quite frequently so no matter what I change it to within a couple days it is back to what the govmnt has on record.
Barry



---In 070@..., <nu4c@...> wrote :

Ray,
Here's  a simple fix. Go to QRZ.com and edit your page. Just change your first to Ray and save the change.
73
Paul NU4C



Re: Question ?

Randy True
 

To change your name on QRZ, you have to change your FCC info.


Randy

W4RTT




From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of boat.anchor@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 11:20 AM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] Question ?
 
 

Paul


I tried that for weeks on end and finally concluded that QRZ does a database update from industry canada quite frequently so no matter what I change it to within a couple days it is back to what the govmnt has on record.
Barry



---In 070@..., <nu4c@...> wrote :

Ray,
Here's  a simple fix. Go to QRZ.com and edit your page. Just change your first to Ray and save the change.
73
Paul NU4C



Re: Question ?

boat.anchor@...
 

Paul

I tried that for weeks on end and finally concluded that QRZ does a database update from industry canada quite frequently so no matter what I change it to within a couple days it is back to what the govmnt has on record.
Barry



---In 070@..., <nu4c@...> wrote :

Ray,
Here's  a simple fix. Go to QRZ.com and edit your page. Just change your first to Ray and save the change.
73
Paul NU4C



Re: Question ?

boat.anchor@...
 

Good point Paula

at least QSOs with you are all kybd and no macros.
Keep up the good work.

Barry



---In 070@..., <hamette@...> wrote :

It’s the software – when it is set to do a QRZ lookup, it pulls first and last name. At least in HRD, there is a setting to use first name only in the macros.
But if you don’t have the box checked, it will be first and last name by default. And folks new to ham radio don’t know the traditions . . . I guess we should be glad they are wanting to use our name at all!

 

Paula K7PAX


Re: Question ?

Paul <nu4c@...>
 

Ray,
Here's  a simple fix. Go to QRZ.com and edit your page. Just change your first to Ray and save the change.
73
Paul NU4C



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-------- Original message --------
From: "'Ray Clements' r.clements@... [070]" <070@...>
Date: 7/13/17 11:02 (GMT-05:00)
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] Question ?

 

In the FCC records I am listed as Raymond. However, everyone has called me Ray for the past 50 years (well, except my mother who has been dead for the past 10 years). What irks me is when I send my name as Ray in my exchange and some operators are too lazy to log my name as Ray. Or perhaps they have no typing skills.

Some contests require a name to be recorded in the contest exchange and the QSO does not count unless the name copied is whatever was sent over the air, not what is shown in the call books. In an effort to speed up exchanges, most operators will shorten their names. For example, Constantine might shorten his name to Stan. Thus, it is best to get in the habit of logging the name operators send in their exchanges. Besides it is the friendly thing to do.

N9RWC Ray (not Raymond)







------ Original Message ------
Received: 09:41 AM CDT, 07/13/2017
From: "'F.R. Ashley' gdadx2@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] Question ?


 

Macros that insert your name is nothing new. But just love it when I get a 73 macro with my first name, middle initial, and last name inserted. I also have never gone by my first name, and have had the nickname of Buddy since I was a little boy.  Those who do use my real name use my middle name.  I also don't call anyone by their name until they tell me at the start of a QSO, they need to properly introduce themselves!

73 Buddy WB4M


On 7/13/2017 10:01 AM, mwbesemer@... [070] wrote:
 
<Soapbox Mode On>

Similar to macros that automatically populate the 'name' field from a callbook lookup.

When I first got this call, I became 'Charlie' for several years until all the websites had updated.  Now I'm 'Michael' - which I've never been called by anyone.

Personally, I won't call someone by name in a QSO until they give it to me; I don't address them at all until I get a name, lest I used the traditional 'OM' when I actually have a YL on the other end. 

'Back in the day', most of us didn't consider it a good contact unless we copied RS(T), Name, and QTH.  Unfotunately, many (most) of the old traditions are gone.  Some folks get upset if you want a 'real' QSL card from them; when I got my ticket, a QSL was considered 'the final courtesy' of a QSO and nearly everyone sent them for every contact.  Now it's pretty much LOTW or nothing. 

We've got more modes, better radios, and neater toys these days, but we're missing something really important.

</Soapbox Mode Off>

Mike (not Michael, Charles, or Charlie)
WM4B






Re: Question ?

boat.anchor@...
 

Bill

Agree very much.
I try my darndest to overcome all the benefits of the computer (which I am not willing to forego) and adapt my macros on the fly to make it all look as personal as I can. It only takes a couple tweaks and the other party feels like it is meant for them only and not a mass communication from a beer can.
Barry



---In 070@..., <n4gbk@...> wrote :

I see similar stuff.  I get sent my full name as is on my ham license including middle initial.  I always send my name as Bill.  (The only people who call me William are with the Government, IRS etc.)

 

Even in some of our PODXS contests where the name is part of the exchange and I send my name as Bill, I see it logged in the contest results as “William”.  I blame it on computers.   They make everything impersonal.

 

Happy Radio!

 

Bill

  


Re: Question ?

Ray Clements
 

In the FCC records I am listed as Raymond. However, everyone has called me Ray for the past 50 years (well, except my mother who has been dead for the past 10 years). What irks me is when I send my name as Ray in my exchange and some operators are too lazy to log my name as Ray. Or perhaps they have no typing skills.

Some contests require a name to be recorded in the contest exchange and the QSO does not count unless the name copied is whatever was sent over the air, not what is shown in the call books. In an effort to speed up exchanges, most operators will shorten their names. For example, Constantine might shorten his name to Stan. Thus, it is best to get in the habit of logging the name operators send in their exchanges. Besides it is the friendly thing to do.

N9RWC Ray (not Raymond)







------ Original Message ------
Received: 09:41 AM CDT, 07/13/2017
From: "'F.R. Ashley' gdadx2@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] Question ?


 

Macros that insert your name is nothing new. But just love it when I get a 73 macro with my first name, middle initial, and last name inserted. I also have never gone by my first name, and have had the nickname of Buddy since I was a little boy.  Those who do use my real name use my middle name.  I also don't call anyone by their name until they tell me at the start of a QSO, they need to properly introduce themselves!

73 Buddy WB4M


On 7/13/2017 10:01 AM, mwbesemer@... [070] wrote:
 

Similar to macros that automatically populate the 'name' field from a callbook lookup.

When I first got this call, I became 'Charlie' for several years until all the websites had updated.  Now I'm 'Michael' - which I've never been called by anyone.

Personally, I won't call someone by name in a QSO until they give it to me; I don't address them at all until I get a name, lest I used the traditional 'OM' when I actually have a YL on the other end. 

'Back in the day', most of us didn't consider it a good contact unless we copied RS(T), Name, and QTH.  Unfotunately, many (most) of the old traditions are gone.  Some folks get upset if you want a 'real' QSL card from them; when I got my ticket, a QSL was considered 'the final courtesy' of a QSO and nearly everyone sent them for every contact.  Now it's pretty much LOTW or nothing. 

We've got more modes, better radios, and neater toys these days, but we're missing something really important.


Mike (not Michael, Charles, or Charlie)
WM4B






Re: Question ?

F.R. Ashley
 

Macros that insert your name is nothing new. But just love it when I get a 73 macro with my first name, middle initial, and last name inserted. I also have never gone by my first name, and have had the nickname of Buddy since I was a little boy.  Those who do use my real name use my middle name.  I also don't call anyone by their name until they tell me at the start of a QSO, they need to properly introduce themselves!

73 Buddy WB4M


On 7/13/2017 10:01 AM, mwbesemer@... [070] wrote:

 

Similar to macros that automatically populate the 'name' field from a callbook lookup.

When I first got this call, I became 'Charlie' for several years until all the websites had updated.  Now I'm 'Michael' - which I've never been called by anyone.

Personally, I won't call someone by name in a QSO until they give it to me; I don't address them at all until I get a name, lest I used the traditional 'OM' when I actually have a YL on the other end. 

'Back in the day', most of us didn't consider it a good contact unless we copied RS(T), Name, and QTH.  Unfotunately, many (most) of the old traditions are gone.  Some folks get upset if you want a 'real' QSL card from them; when I got my ticket, a QSL was considered 'the final courtesy' of a QSO and nearly everyone sent them for every contact.  Now it's pretty much LOTW or nothing. 

We've got more modes, better radios, and neater toys these days, but we're missing something really important.


Mike (not Michael, Charles, or Charlie)
WM4B




Re: Question ?

Bill Morton
 

HRD does default to using both First and Last names in its macro, but can also be set to only First name. In DM-780 – Program Options – Macros – click “send his first name only” – a bit of gender bias but it gets the job done.

Of course, if you touch type, Macros do not come into play….

 

73

Bill

W4ASE

070 #1018

 

 

From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 9:59 AM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] Question ?

 

 

HRD's DM-780 has a macro that sends both the first and last name of an OP after the call sign was looked up in QRZ when sending a reply.  Its been a while, but I think I remember that is the default way DM-780 is configured.

I'm betting this is a reply via such a macro.

Marty - KJ4LQX

 

On 07/13/2017 09:49 AM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] wrote:

 


Lately I've been working a lot of station  who when answering a call, send both my first and last names ?   What's up with this ???   It seems to not be in the Amateur Radio tradition of just sending one's first name.  Seems to me kind of like junk mail and very impersonal.  

 

Just curious...

 

Jerry N9AVY

 


Re: Question ?

mwbesemer@...
 


Re: Question ?

mwbesemer@...
 


Re: Question ?

Paula K7PAX #1739
 

It’s the software – when it is set to do a QRZ lookup, it pulls first and last name. At least in HRD, there is a setting to use first name only in the macros.
But if you don’t have the box checked, it will be first and last name by default. And folks new to ham radio don’t know the traditions . . . I guess we should be glad they are wanting to use our name at all!

 

Paula K7PAX

 

From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 6:49 AM
To: 070 List Service 070 List Service <070@...>
Subject: [070] Question ?

 

 


Lately I've been working a lot of station  who when answering a call, send both my first and last names ?   What's up with this ???   It seems to not be in the Amateur Radio tradition of just sending one's first name.  Seems to me kind of like junk mail and very impersonal.  

 

Just curious...

 

Jerry N9AVY


Re: Question ?

Bill Garwood
 

I see similar stuff.  I get sent my full name as is on my ham license including middle initial.  I always send my name as Bill.  (The only people who call me William are with the Government, IRS etc.)

 

Even in some of our PODXS contests where the name is part of the exchange and I send my name as Bill, I see it logged in the contest results as “William”.  I blame it on computers.   They make everything impersonal.

 

Happy Radio!

 

Bill

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Jerry n9avy@... [070]
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 9:49 AM
To: 070 List Service 070 List Service
Subject: [070] Question ?

 

 


Lately I've been working a lot of station  who when answering a call, send both my first and last names ?   What's up with this ???   It seems to not be in the Amateur Radio tradition of just sending one's first name.  Seems to me kind of like junk mail and very impersonal.  

 

Just curious...

 

Jerry N9AVY

 


Re: Question ?

Marty Grove
 

HRD's DM-780 has a macro that sends both the first and last name of an OP after the call sign was looked up in QRZ when sending a reply.  Its been a while, but I think I remember that is the default way DM-780 is configured.

I'm betting this is a reply via such a macro.

Marty - KJ4LQX


On 07/13/2017 09:49 AM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] wrote:

 

Lately I've been working a lot of station  who when answering a call, send both my first and last names ?   What's up with this ???   It seems to not be in the Amateur Radio tradition of just sending one's first name.  Seems to me kind of like junk mail and very impersonal.  
 
Just curious...
 
Jerry N9AVY


Re: Question ?

Jon Greene - wx5nco <wx5nco@...>
 

Jerry,
My practice is to only use first name, when I've been given the first name.  If the other op doesn't give me their first name, which is rare, I use OM or YL.  

73
Jon Greene WX5NCO
Tulsa, Oklahoma EM26
070 - 592
30DMC - 1233
DMC - 741
EPC - 5134
1010 - 74420

 




On Thursday, July 13, 2017, 8:49:33 AM CDT, Jerry n9avy@... [070] <070@...> wrote:


 


Lately I've been working a lot of station  who when answering a call, send both my first and last names ?   What's up with this ???   It seems to not be in the Amateur Radio tradition of just sending one's first name.  Seems to me kind of like junk mail and very impersonal.  
 
Just curious...
 
Jerry N9AVY


Re: Question ?

Randy True
 

Probably the same guys who jump the frequency when you've been quiet for 30 seconds.


Randy

W4RTT




From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of Jerry n9avy@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 9:49 AM
To: 070 List Service 070 List Service
Subject: [070] Question ?
 
 


Lately I've been working a lot of station  who when answering a call, send both my first and last names ?   What's up with this ???   It seems to not be in the Amateur Radio tradition of just sending one's first name.  Seems to me kind of like junk mail and very impersonal.  
 
Just curious...
 
Jerry N9AVY


Question ?

Jerry N9AVY
 


Lately I've been working a lot of station  who when answering a call, send both my first and last names ?   What's up with this ???   It seems to not be in the Amateur Radio tradition of just sending one's first name.  Seems to me kind of like junk mail and very impersonal.  
 
Just curious...
 
Jerry N9AVY


Re: PSK31 Technical Info on PODXS Website?

Jim K5SP
 

The website would be the best place for ALL hams to get information. The reflector is members only!

BTW still on vacation, gulf coast is great. 

JIM K5SP #483



Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S®6 active, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone

-------- Original message --------
From: "Jerry n9avy@... [070]" <070@...>
Date: 7/12/17 7:55 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] PSK31 Technical Info on PODXS Website?

 

There's a files section on the yahoogroup  for this info.
 
Jerry  N9AVY



From: "Bill Garwood n4gbk@... [070]" <070@...>
To: "070@..." <070@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 7:31 PM
Subject: [070] PSK31 Technical Info on PODXS Website?

 
Hello Folks,

This 070 Reflector continues to provide members with all sorts of good information about PSK31 operating.  I wonder if we might consider a more prominent spot on the PODXS 070 Club website to assist PSK31 operators and potential operators with some of this good information?  Sort of a catch all for the important stuff.  I see our club as being one of the premier PSK31 organizations in the world who could assist operators and encourage more hams to try this fun mode.

Some suggestions based on recent posts:
Setting up sound cards..how to configure a PC to work with USB controlled radios..this might just be a series of links to good sites..keep the beeps off the air.
PSK31 operating in contests..the good and bad of macros and working DX stations.  
Recent PSK31 Field Day complaints with over-powered and maladjusted stations.  (A short article in QST sometime in 2018 might help mitigate some of this.)
PSK Frequencies..this comes up fairly often..what is the PSK31 frequency for 6 meters or 160 meters etc.  There is a band plan..help folks find it.
Help with the contest scorer and awards scorer..seems the same questions come up over and over again from newer members.
Maybe have a technical editor for the club or similar..someone with a good handle on PSK31 operating, software etc.

Just some suggestions..

Thanks and Happy Radio!

Bill N4GBK #1688 LONP #252



Re: PSK31 Technical Info on PODXS Website?

Jon Greene - wx5nco <wx5nco@...>
 

I agree!

73
Jon Greene WX5NCO
Tulsa, Oklahoma EM26
070 - 592
30DMC - 1233
DMC - 741
EPC - 5134
1010 - 74420

 




On Wednesday, July 12, 2017, 8:58:42 PM CDT, Jerry n9avy@... [070] <070@...> wrote:


 

Don't think I've ever run across any PODXS members who aren't good operators,  but  think it would be a good  idea to print up some standards which should be used as guidelines. 
 
PODXS could be the "standard bearer"  for PSK31  operation.
 
Jerry  N9AVY



From: "w3hf@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 8:14 PM
Subject: [070] Re: PSK31 Technical Info on PODXS Website?

 
Bill -

There actually is at least some of that stuff on the web site already. It's under the "Frequently Asked Questions" menu pick in the nav bar on the right. There are pages for "Intro to PSK", "PSK31 Frequencies",  and "PSK31 Hardware and Software." But they are kind of dated. Some info doesn't change much (technical description of PSK, even the PSK frequencies), but the hardware/software page is pretty old, and some of the links probably are broken. I should know--I think I was writing these pages about nine years ago!

I don't think we've ever put any sort of "good operating practices" on the web site, whether it's contesting, or DXing, That's mostly been on the email reflector. 

I think your idea is a good one, though. Aside from updating (or replacing) the original pages, I think adding some operating writeups would be good. The problem may be that the definition of "good" is not universal. As the discussions on the reflector have proved, there are just as many people who will say "no one can tell me how to write my macros!" as there are those who ask for suggestions. Of course, that doesn't stop many of us from offering our suggestions when someone asks. 

I actually think that there have been some good emails posted to the reflector that could form the basis for some reference web pages. The problem may be digging them out. 

Steve
W3HF



Re: PSK31 Technical Info on PODXS Website?

Jerry N9AVY
 

Don't think I've ever run across any PODXS members who aren't good operators,  but  think it would be a good  idea to print up some standards which should be used as guidelines. 
 
PODXS could be the "standard bearer"  for PSK31  operation.
 
Jerry  N9AVY



From: "w3hf@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 8:14 PM
Subject: [070] Re: PSK31 Technical Info on PODXS Website?

 
Bill -

There actually is at least some of that stuff on the web site already. It's under the "Frequently Asked Questions" menu pick in the nav bar on the right. There are pages for "Intro to PSK", "PSK31 Frequencies",  and "PSK31 Hardware and Software." But they are kind of dated. Some info doesn't change much (technical description of PSK, even the PSK frequencies), but the hardware/software page is pretty old, and some of the links probably are broken. I should know--I think I was writing these pages about nine years ago!

I don't think we've ever put any sort of "good operating practices" on the web site, whether it's contesting, or DXing, That's mostly been on the email reflector. 

I think your idea is a good one, though. Aside from updating (or replacing) the original pages, I think adding some operating writeups would be good. The problem may be that the definition of "good" is not universal. As the discussions on the reflector have proved, there are just as many people who will say "no one can tell me how to write my macros!" as there are those who ask for suggestions. Of course, that doesn't stop many of us from offering our suggestions when someone asks. 

I actually think that there have been some good emails posted to the reflector that could form the basis for some reference web pages. The problem may be digging them out. 

Steve
W3HF


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