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Shipping QSLs

Jerry N9AVY
 


Tried to figure this out shipping QSLs via direct to bureaus in Europe or via ARRL.
 
Have a total of 8.3 ounces of cards ready to be shipped.  If I ship them via ARRL Outgoing Bureau, it will be a cost of $17.35.
 
Now, if I separate out  the cards for DL, I, and JA that will remove 4.6 oz.  from the original 8.3 oz  which will leave 3.7 oz. to ship via ARRL.  However, the cost of the bureau shipments will come up to $7.40.
 
Adding this all up, I end up with a grand total  of $18.54 for shipping to bureaus and ARRL.   So it would appear that I've spent an extra buck trying to save a buck.   Forgot to figure in the cost of shipping to ARRL which probably is a few bucks more; so it appears that I may have saved a buck or two.  Think ARRL figured this all out so they are probably look like the cheaper way to go.
 
Guess I need to do more research on this.
 
Jerry  N9AVY


Re: More on QSL Cards

ljl2002@att.net
 

Paula,
Nice!
Great card. Says it all.
With any luck I'll be able to get in it my collection some day.
73
Joe
KA1PPV


On Saturday, July 8, 2017 12:44 PM, "Jerry n9avy@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:


 
Postal regulations !    They vary from U.S.  to Europe and other parts of world.  Many QSL cards are sent as postcards... it's a few cents cheaper
 
The standard 3 x 5 " index card is no longer acceptable as a postcard ... I think it may be because of cancelling machines in use today.
 
 The standard size now seems to  be  3   1/2  x  5   1/2  inches.   Some DX cards are 4 x 5  3/4 inches.  These seem to be the standards, but with bureau shipments they can be smaller (lighter weight - hence more cards per pound).
 
Using index cards for QSLs you would also run the risk of tearing/folding/creasing while going though postal system.
 
Earlier , I mentioned the WB8RCR  software which is free on the net.  Most office supply stores sell card stock by Avery which is postcard sized and comes 4 to a sheet. Cardstock is perforated and is easily separated for use. You can print this all with your computer/printer.  Have used this for QSLs and other applications -  works great.
 
Jerry  N9AVY


From: "Jon Greene - wx5nco wx5nco@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070 List Service 070 List Service <070@...>
Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2017 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: [070] More on QSL Cards

 
I've got a "newbie" question on QSL cards.  I've never had qsl cards made.  When I was active on HF, a few years ago, I thought about having some made, but never did.  I even thought about printing my own.  
Now, my question is, why was the qsl card made 3½x5½ and not 3x5 or 4x6 so we could use a standard unlined index card?
Just my random thoughts of the day. hihi
Jon

73
Jon Greene WX5NCO
Tulsa, Oklahoma EM26
070 - 592
30DMC - 1233
DMC - 741
EPC - 5134
1010 - 74420

 



On Saturday, July 8, 2017, 12:12:41 AM CDT, Jerry n9avy@... [070] <070@...> wrote:


 
 Used to do my own cards for  N9AVY/140 (Maxim Birthday Special )  and K9ATI using WB8RCR software  which .
is available if one searches for "WB8RCR QSL Card Maker".
 
Jerry N9AVY



From: "k9wis@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 11:14 PM
Subject: Re: [070] More on QSL Cards

 
I refurbish and restore old qsl designs using Gimp and photoshop for hams who have old ones in their collections they want to restore and reproduce..like antique cards their dads and grandads (even great and great great grandpas) had. I lay out 4 on an 8/5 x 11 sheet and create a word document that they can print on their own printers using glossy card stock. if any of you are interested let me know..
check out my page http://qsl.net/k9wis/
Brian K9WIS

---- "Paula Johnson hamette@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:
> Joe, I did the same using a picture I took. It is uniquely my area - view of Mt Baker across the Strait of Juan de Fuca. Breathtaking! Check it out on QRZ.
>
> Paula K7PAX
>
> On Jul 7, 2017, at 11:07 AM, 'ljl2002@...' joe_molon@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
>
> Bill,
> I decided to put one of my photographs on my card. I wanted something that said NEW ENGLAND so I think that fall foliage does well in that regard.
> Someday if I move to AZ I'll replace it with a cactus. hi hi.
>
> Joe
> KA1PPV #1482
>
>
> On Friday, July 7, 2017 10:39 AM, "Bill Garwood n4gbk@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> The QSL Card thread had changed so here are some additional comments.
>
> I respond to QSL card requests as a courtesy to other ham operators. (Except for that guy in Cuba who has sent me 10+ cards direct and that guy in France who has sent me 15+ cards via the bureau, I respond to each and every request. I've sent both of them multiple cards but not duplicates for the same PSK31 QSOs.)
>
> I want my cards to be attractive. I design the front to help promote things that I am passionate about. My latest cards have something about NC aviation history and US Coast Guard aviation. I get them from the same place that Jerry gets his. 1000 cards for under $100.00 delivered.
>
> All of my information is on the other side of the card. There is no reason to have to flip it over and over to see any of the QSO details. The back side of the card is a standard form from the card vendor.
>
> All bureau cards are sorted with the back side up showing everything needed to get them moving through the network.
>
> I really don't care whether my cards get permanently stashed in a shoe box or get more prominently displayed in someone's shack. I'm having fun with ham radio.
>
> Happy Radio and have a great weekend!
>
> Bill N4GBK #1688 FM16
>
>
>
>
>








Re: More on QSL Cards

Jerry N9AVY
 

Postal regulations !    They vary from U.S.  to Europe and other parts of world.  Many QSL cards are sent as postcards... it's a few cents cheaper
 
The standard 3 x 5 " index card is no longer acceptable as a postcard ... I think it may be because of cancelling machines in use today.
 
 The standard size now seems to  be  3   1/2  x  5   1/2  inches.   Some DX cards are 4 x 5  3/4 inches.  These seem to be the standards, but with bureau shipments they can be smaller (lighter weight - hence more cards per pound).
 
Using index cards for QSLs you would also run the risk of tearing/folding/creasing while going though postal system.
 
Earlier , I mentioned the WB8RCR  software which is free on the net.  Most office supply stores sell card stock by Avery which is postcard sized and comes 4 to a sheet. Cardstock is perforated and is easily separated for use. You can print this all with your computer/printer.  Have used this for QSLs and other applications -  works great.
 
Jerry  N9AVY


From: "Jon Greene - wx5nco wx5nco@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070 List Service 070 List Service <070@...>
Sent: Saturday, July 8, 2017 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: [070] More on QSL Cards

 
I've got a "newbie" question on QSL cards.  I've never had qsl cards made.  When I was active on HF, a few years ago, I thought about having some made, but never did.  I even thought about printing my own.  
Now, my question is, why was the qsl card made 3½x5½ and not 3x5 or 4x6 so we could use a standard unlined index card?
Just my random thoughts of the day. hihi
Jon

73
Jon Greene WX5NCO
Tulsa, Oklahoma EM26
070 - 592
30DMC - 1233
DMC - 741
EPC - 5134
1010 - 74420

 



On Saturday, July 8, 2017, 12:12:41 AM CDT, Jerry n9avy@... [070] <070@...> wrote:


 
 Used to do my own cards for  N9AVY/140 (Maxim Birthday Special )  and K9ATI using WB8RCR software  which .
is available if one searches for "WB8RCR QSL Card Maker".
 
Jerry N9AVY



From: "k9wis@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 11:14 PM
Subject: Re: [070] More on QSL Cards

 
I refurbish and restore old qsl designs using Gimp and photoshop for hams who have old ones in their collections they want to restore and reproduce..like antique cards their dads and grandads (even great and great great grandpas) had. I lay out 4 on an 8/5 x 11 sheet and create a word document that they can print on their own printers using glossy card stock. if any of you are interested let me know..
check out my page http://qsl.net/k9wis/
Brian K9WIS

---- "Paula Johnson hamette@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:
> Joe, I did the same using a picture I took. It is uniquely my area - view of Mt Baker across the Strait of Juan de Fuca. Breathtaking! Check it out on QRZ.
>
> Paula K7PAX
>
> On Jul 7, 2017, at 11:07 AM, 'ljl2002@...' joe_molon@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
>
> Bill,
> I decided to put one of my photographs on my card. I wanted something that said NEW ENGLAND so I think that fall foliage does well in that regard.
> Someday if I move to AZ I'll replace it with a cactus. hi hi.
>
> Joe
> KA1PPV #1482
>
>
> On Friday, July 7, 2017 10:39 AM, "Bill Garwood n4gbk@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> The QSL Card thread had changed so here are some additional comments.
>
> I respond to QSL card requests as a courtesy to other ham operators. (Except for that guy in Cuba who has sent me 10+ cards direct and that guy in France who has sent me 15+ cards via the bureau, I respond to each and every request. I've sent both of them multiple cards but not duplicates for the same PSK31 QSOs.)
>
> I want my cards to be attractive. I design the front to help promote things that I am passionate about. My latest cards have something about NC aviation history and US Coast Guard aviation. I get them from the same place that Jerry gets his. 1000 cards for under $100.00 delivered.
>
> All of my information is on the other side of the card. There is no reason to have to flip it over and over to see any of the QSO details. The back side of the card is a standard form from the card vendor.
>
> All bureau cards are sorted with the back side up showing everything needed to get them moving through the network.
>
> I really don't care whether my cards get permanently stashed in a shoe box or get more prominently displayed in someone's shack. I'm having fun with ham radio.
>
> Happy Radio and have a great weekend!
>
> Bill N4GBK #1688 FM16
>
>
>
>
>






Re: More on QSL Cards

Jon Greene - wx5nco <wx5nco@...>
 

I've got a "newbie" question on QSL cards.  I've never had qsl cards made.  When I was active on HF, a few years ago, I thought about having some made, but never did.  I even thought about printing my own.  
Now, my question is, why was the qsl card made 3½x5½ and not 3x5 or 4x6 so we could use a standard unlined index card?
Just my random thoughts of the day. hihi
Jon

73
Jon Greene WX5NCO
Tulsa, Oklahoma EM26
070 - 592
30DMC - 1233
DMC - 741
EPC - 5134
1010 - 74420

 



On Saturday, July 8, 2017, 12:12:41 AM CDT, Jerry n9avy@... [070] <070@...> wrote:


 

 Used to do my own cards for  N9AVY/140 (Maxim Birthday Special )  and K9ATI using WB8RCR software  which .
is available if one searches for "WB8RCR QSL Card Maker".
 
Jerry N9AVY



From: "k9wis@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 11:14 PM
Subject: Re: [070] More on QSL Cards

 
I refurbish and restore old qsl designs using Gimp and photoshop for hams who have old ones in their collections they want to restore and reproduce..like antique cards their dads and grandads (even great and great great grandpas) had. I lay out 4 on an 8/5 x 11 sheet and create a word document that they can print on their own printers using glossy card stock. if any of you are interested let me know..
check out my page http://qsl.net/k9wis/
Brian K9WIS

---- "Paula Johnson hamette@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:
> Joe, I did the same using a picture I took. It is uniquely my area - view of Mt Baker across the Strait of Juan de Fuca. Breathtaking! Check it out on QRZ.
>
> Paula K7PAX
>
> On Jul 7, 2017, at 11:07 AM, 'ljl2002@...' joe_molon@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
>
> Bill,
> I decided to put one of my photographs on my card. I wanted something that said NEW ENGLAND so I think that fall foliage does well in that regard.
> Someday if I move to AZ I'll replace it with a cactus. hi hi.
>
> Joe
> KA1PPV #1482
>
>
> On Friday, July 7, 2017 10:39 AM, "Bill Garwood n4gbk@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> The QSL Card thread had changed so here are some additional comments.
>
> I respond to QSL card requests as a courtesy to other ham operators. (Except for that guy in Cuba who has sent me 10+ cards direct and that guy in France who has sent me 15+ cards via the bureau, I respond to each and every request. I've sent both of them multiple cards but not duplicates for the same PSK31 QSOs.)
>
> I want my cards to be attractive. I design the front to help promote things that I am passionate about. My latest cards have something about NC aviation history and US Coast Guard aviation. I get them from the same place that Jerry gets his. 1000 cards for under $100.00 delivered.
>
> All of my information is on the other side of the card. There is no reason to have to flip it over and over to see any of the QSO details. The back side of the card is a standard form from the card vendor.
>
> All bureau cards are sorted with the back side up showing everything needed to get them moving through the network.
>
> I really don't care whether my cards get permanently stashed in a shoe box or get more prominently displayed in someone's shack. I'm having fun with ham radio.
>
> Happy Radio and have a great weekend!
>
> Bill N4GBK #1688 FM16
>
>
>
>
>




Re: More on QSL Cards

Jerry N9AVY
 

 Used to do my own cards for  N9AVY/140 (Maxim Birthday Special )  and K9ATI using WB8RCR software  which .
is available if one searches for "WB8RCR QSL Card Maker".
 
Jerry N9AVY



From: "k9wis@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 11:14 PM
Subject: Re: [070] More on QSL Cards

 
I refurbish and restore old qsl designs using Gimp and photoshop for hams who have old ones in their collections they want to restore and reproduce..like antique cards their dads and grandads (even great and great great grandpas) had. I lay out 4 on an 8/5 x 11 sheet and create a word document that they can print on their own printers using glossy card stock. if any of you are interested let me know..
check out my page http://qsl.net/k9wis/
Brian K9WIS

---- "Paula Johnson hamette@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:
> Joe, I did the same using a picture I took. It is uniquely my area - view of Mt Baker across the Strait of Juan de Fuca. Breathtaking! Check it out on QRZ.
>
> Paula K7PAX
>
> On Jul 7, 2017, at 11:07 AM, 'ljl2002@...' joe_molon@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
>
> Bill,
> I decided to put one of my photographs on my card. I wanted something that said NEW ENGLAND so I think that fall foliage does well in that regard.
> Someday if I move to AZ I'll replace it with a cactus. hi hi.
>
> Joe
> KA1PPV #1482
>
>
> On Friday, July 7, 2017 10:39 AM, "Bill Garwood n4gbk@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> The QSL Card thread had changed so here are some additional comments.
>
> I respond to QSL card requests as a courtesy to other ham operators. (Except for that guy in Cuba who has sent me 10+ cards direct and that guy in France who has sent me 15+ cards via the bureau, I respond to each and every request. I've sent both of them multiple cards but not duplicates for the same PSK31 QSOs.)
>
> I want my cards to be attractive. I design the front to help promote things that I am passionate about. My latest cards have something about NC aviation history and US Coast Guard aviation. I get them from the same place that Jerry gets his. 1000 cards for under $100.00 delivered.
>
> All of my information is on the other side of the card. There is no reason to have to flip it over and over to see any of the QSO details. The back side of the card is a standard form from the card vendor.
>
> All bureau cards are sorted with the back side up showing everything needed to get them moving through the network.
>
> I really don't care whether my cards get permanently stashed in a shoe box or get more prominently displayed in someone's shack. I'm having fun with ham radio.
>
> Happy Radio and have a great weekend!
>
> Bill N4GBK #1688 FM16
>
>
>
>
>




Re: More on QSL Cards

k9wis@...
 

I refurbish and restore old qsl designs using Gimp and photoshop for hams who have old ones in their collections they want to restore and reproduce..like antique cards their dads and grandads (even great and great great grandpas) had. I lay out 4 on an 8/5 x 11 sheet and create a word document that they can print on their own printers using glossy card stock. if any of you are interested let me know..
check out my page http://qsl.net/k9wis/
Brian K9WIS

---- "Paula Johnson hamette@hushmail.com [070]" <070@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Joe, I did the same using a picture I took. It is uniquely my area - view of Mt Baker across the Strait of Juan de Fuca. Breathtaking! Check it out on QRZ.

Paula K7PAX

On Jul 7, 2017, at 11:07 AM, 'ljl2002@att.net' joe_molon@yahoo.com [070] <070@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Bill,
I decided to put one of my photographs on my card. I wanted something that said NEW ENGLAND so I think that fall foliage does well in that regard.
Someday if I move to AZ I'll replace it with a cactus. hi hi.

Joe
KA1PPV #1482


On Friday, July 7, 2017 10:39 AM, "Bill Garwood n4gbk@outlook.com [070]" <070@yahoogroups.com> wrote:



The QSL Card thread had changed so here are some additional comments.

I respond to QSL card requests as a courtesy to other ham operators. (Except for that guy in Cuba who has sent me 10+ cards direct and that guy in France who has sent me 15+ cards via the bureau, I respond to each and every request. I've sent both of them multiple cards but not duplicates for the same PSK31 QSOs.)

I want my cards to be attractive. I design the front to help promote things that I am passionate about. My latest cards have something about NC aviation history and US Coast Guard aviation. I get them from the same place that Jerry gets his. 1000 cards for under $100.00 delivered.

All of my information is on the other side of the card. There is no reason to have to flip it over and over to see any of the QSO details. The back side of the card is a standard form from the card vendor.

All bureau cards are sorted with the back side up showing everything needed to get them moving through the network.

I really don't care whether my cards get permanently stashed in a shoe box or get more prominently displayed in someone's shack. I'm having fun with ham radio.

Happy Radio and have a great weekend!

Bill N4GBK #1688 FM16





Welcome

Jim K5SP
 

Please join me in welcoming our new PODXS070 member(s). 

2556  Scott  WA5TRL

Jim, K5SP #483
Membership Director


Re: More on QSL Cards

Jim K5SP
 

Paula, when stationed on Whidbey Island in late 60's, there was a Naval Communications station on the old seaplane base.  I was a Radioman there, and sent out the weather reports for the Straits of Juan de Fuca on a ship/shore common (both USN and commercial ships could copy it) via CW.   Your mentioning of the Straits brought back some old memories.  Was moved from the seaplane base to the transmitter site at Rocky Point about six months into my tour there.  Was watch supervisor operating and maintaining high power hf transmitters.

Jim K5SP

On 7/7/2017 1:33 PM, Paula Johnson hamette@... [070] wrote:
 
Joe, I did the same using a picture I took. It is uniquely my area - view of Mt Baker across the Strait of Juan de Fuca. Breathtaking! Check it out on QRZ.

Paula K7PAX

On Jul 7, 2017, at 11:07 AM, 'ljl2002@...' joe_molon@... [070] <070@...> wrote:

 
Bill,
I decided to put one of my photographs on my card.  I wanted something that said NEW ENGLAND so I think that fall foliage does well in that regard.
Someday if I move to AZ I'll replace it with a cactus. hi hi.

Joe
KA1PPV  #1482


On Friday, July 7, 2017 10:39 AM, "Bill Garwood n4gbk@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:


 
The QSL Card thread had changed so here are some additional comments.

I respond to QSL card requests as a courtesy to other ham operators.  (Except for that guy in Cuba who has sent me 10+ cards direct and that guy in France who has sent me 15+ cards via the bureau, I respond to each and every request.  I've sent both of them multiple cards but not duplicates for the same PSK31 QSOs.)

I want my cards to be attractive.  I design the front to help promote things that I am passionate about.  My latest cards have something about NC aviation history and US Coast Guard aviation.  I get them from the same place that Jerry gets his.  1000 cards for under $100.00 delivered.

All of my information is on the other side of the card.  There is no reason to have to flip it over and over to see any of the QSO details.  The back side of the card is a standard form from the card vendor.

All bureau cards are sorted with the back side up showing everything needed to get them moving through the network.

I really don't care whether my cards get permanently stashed in a shoe box or get more prominently displayed in someone's shack.  I'm having fun with ham radio.

Happy Radio and have a great weekend!

Bill N4GBK #1688 FM16


 




Re: More on QSL Cards

Paula K7PAX #1739
 

Joe, I did the same using a picture I took. It is uniquely my area - view of Mt Baker across the Strait of Juan de Fuca. Breathtaking! Check it out on QRZ.

Paula K7PAX

On Jul 7, 2017, at 11:07 AM, 'ljl2002@...' joe_molon@... [070] <070@...> wrote:

 

Bill,
I decided to put one of my photographs on my card.  I wanted something that said NEW ENGLAND so I think that fall foliage does well in that regard.
Someday if I move to AZ I'll replace it with a cactus. hi hi.

Joe
KA1PPV  #1482


On Friday, July 7, 2017 10:39 AM, "Bill Garwood n4gbk@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:


 
The QSL Card thread had changed so here are some additional comments.

I respond to QSL card requests as a courtesy to other ham operators.  (Except for that guy in Cuba who has sent me 10+ cards direct and that guy in France who has sent me 15+ cards via the bureau, I respond to each and every request.  I've sent both of them multiple cards but not duplicates for the same PSK31 QSOs.)

I want my cards to be attractive.  I design the front to help promote things that I am passionate about.  My latest cards have something about NC aviation history and US Coast Guard aviation.  I get them from the same place that Jerry gets his.  1000 cards for under $100.00 delivered.

All of my information is on the other side of the card.  There is no reason to have to flip it over and over to see any of the QSO details.  The back side of the card is a standard form from the card vendor.

All bureau cards are sorted with the back side up showing everything needed to get them moving through the network.

I really don't care whether my cards get permanently stashed in a shoe box or get more prominently displayed in someone's shack.  I'm having fun with ham radio.

Happy Radio and have a great weekend!

Bill N4GBK #1688 FM16


 



Re: More on QSL Cards [2 Attachments]

ljl2002@att.net
 

Bill,
I decided to put one of my photographs on my card.  I wanted something that said NEW ENGLAND so I think that fall foliage does well in that regard.
Someday if I move to AZ I'll replace it with a cactus. hi hi.

Joe
KA1PPV  #1482


On Friday, July 7, 2017 10:39 AM, "Bill Garwood n4gbk@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:


 
The QSL Card thread had changed so here are some additional comments.

I respond to QSL card requests as a courtesy to other ham operators.  (Except for that guy in Cuba who has sent me 10+ cards direct and that guy in France who has sent me 15+ cards via the bureau, I respond to each and every request.  I've sent both of them multiple cards but not duplicates for the same PSK31 QSOs.)

I want my cards to be attractive.  I design the front to help promote things that I am passionate about.  My latest cards have something about NC aviation history and US Coast Guard aviation.  I get them from the same place that Jerry gets his.  1000 cards for under $100.00 delivered.

All of my information is on the other side of the card.  There is no reason to have to flip it over and over to see any of the QSO details.  The back side of the card is a standard form from the card vendor.

All bureau cards are sorted with the back side up showing everything needed to get them moving through the network.

I really don't care whether my cards get permanently stashed in a shoe box or get more prominently displayed in someone's shack.  I'm having fun with ham radio.

Happy Radio and have a great weekend!

Bill N4GBK #1688 FM16


 



Re: 10-10 International QSO Party

ljl2002@att.net
 

Marty,

I did the same thing with WSPR.  I hadn't heard of propnet either so I'm glad it was brought up. Tnx.
Every little edge helps.

73
Joe
KA1PPV  #1482


On Friday, July 7, 2017 1:10 AM, "ka5dwi@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:


 
HI Marty,
PropNET is just an adhoc group of Hams that have been doing real time propagation reporting for over 15 years. It once used AX.25 on 6 Meters and in 2004 got smarter, switched to PSK31, developed software, used LiveX to warehouse sent and received formatted packets and make real time reporting maps. In 2010, the ability to report on captures of non-PropNET PSK31 was added.

They are not affiliated with any other groups, but I would put their reporting as good as and better that all of the others. It is highly accurate and has very minimal errors.
 
On 10 Meters, you will find no less than 10 active PropNET stations during the Es season, usually many more.
We usually run no more than 10 watts, most less (I run 5) and besides our timed formatted packets (call, 6 character grid square, PHG code) we also have our Robots turned on.  It's a good way to find out if you are getting out. 
You can find us on any band, but the most popular are 10, 30 and 6 Meters.  FCC rules only allow us to operate near PSK31 activity on those 3 bands. On 10 Meters we operate at 28.1188 MHz +1500 Hz. 

I have been active with them off and on since 2004.  You will find a number of research papers and Blog posts I have written about 10-Meter propagation linked on the website. They are all mathematical/statistical based. I am a retired Banker and Math educator. I like to dazzle and baffle everyone with charts.

They are always looking for participants. www.propnet.org

73 Art KA5DWI/7 #2518
 



Re: More on QSL Cards

Jerry N9AVY
 

Working all those years at bureau, occasionally there would be a batch of cards that would come through looking as though they had been stowed in the cargo hold of a ship or were unloaded from an airplane while it was raining.  Yes, they were WET and the ink was smeared.  Some were almost totally illegible. The that cards were also soggy, too.
 
Didn't happen often, but when it did it was messy.  Always try to use ink that is permanent/indelible, just in case.

Think the worst scare was just after 9/11 when all the bureau staff got notices about the possibility of poisons being shipped with cards ...  anthrax, etc. 
 
Jerry  N9AVY


From: "Bill Garwood n4gbk@... [070]" <070@...>
To: "070@..." <070@...>
Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [070] More on QSL Cards

 
Oh, I use a regular point red sharpie to enter the other call sign on the card.  It stands out.  The rest of the info is done with a fine point black sharpie.  Found ink tends to smear and bleed on the card stock.  I had one returned that way.  Sharpies work well.


From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of Jerry n9avy@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 10:55:22 AM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] More on QSL Cards
 
 
Bill !
 
 
That's the way to do it.  
 
Liked your remarks about Cuban & French stations.  The French station is probably the one who sends pieces of paper rather than real cards ... I have enough to wallpaper a room  

If you work a lot of JA  stations you'll find they will QSL every time they work you...  I have several 10m QSLs , all with same station. Better to have several than none.
 
When I get too many from a station I just ignore them  unless it's different band/mode.
 
When I ship via bureau  having a blank side on my card , I will write the call sign of station in large letters; so the card sorters don't go blind trying to read those small labels or my lousy handwriting.
 
Bill.... a good thread.  Hope some learn from this.
 
73,  Jerry   N9AVY  #454

From: "Bill Garwood n4gbk@... [070]" <070@...>
To: "070@..." <070@...>
Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 9:39 AM
Subject: [070] More on QSL Cards [2 Attachments]

 
The QSL Card thread had changed so here are some additional comments.

I respond to QSL card requests as a courtesy to other ham operators.  (Except for that guy in Cuba who has sent me 10+ cards direct and that guy in France who has sent me 15+ cards via the bureau, I respond to each and every request.  I've sent both of them multiple cards but not duplicates for the same PSK31 QSOs.)

I want my cards to be attractive.  I design the front to help promote things that I am passionate about.  My latest cards have something about NC aviation history and US Coast Guard aviation.  I get them from the same place that Jerry gets his.  1000 cards for under $100.00 delivered.

All of my information is on the other side of the card.  There is no reason to have to flip it over and over to see any of the QSO details.  The back side of the card is a standard form from the card vendor.

All bureau cards are sorted with the back side up showing everything needed to get them moving through the network.

I really don't care whether my cards get permanently stashed in a shoe box or get more prominently displayed in someone's shack.  I'm having fun with ham radio.

Happy Radio and have a great weekend!

Bill N4GBK #1688 FM16


 





Re: More on QSL Cards

Bill Garwood
 

Oh, I use a regular point red sharpie to enter the other call sign on the card.  It stands out.  The rest of the info is done with a fine point black sharpie.  Found ink tends to smear and bleed on the card stock.  I had one returned that way.  Sharpies work well.


From: 070@... <070@...> on behalf of Jerry n9avy@... [070] <070@...>
Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 10:55:22 AM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] More on QSL Cards
 
 

Bill !
 
 
That's the way to do it.  
 
Liked your remarks about Cuban & French stations.  The French station is probably the one who sends pieces of paper rather than real cards ... I have enough to wallpaper a room  

If you work a lot of JA  stations you'll find they will QSL every time they work you...  I have several 10m QSLs , all with same station. Better to have several than none.
 
When I get too many from a station I just ignore them  unless it's different band/mode.
 
When I ship via bureau  having a blank side on my card , I will write the call sign of station in large letters; so the card sorters don't go blind trying to read those small labels or my lousy handwriting.
 
Bill.... a good thread.  Hope some learn from this.
 
73,  Jerry   N9AVY  #454

From: "Bill Garwood n4gbk@... [070]" <070@...>
To: "070@..." <070@...>
Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 9:39 AM
Subject: [070] More on QSL Cards [2 Attachments]

 
The QSL Card thread had changed so here are some additional comments.

I respond to QSL card requests as a courtesy to other ham operators.  (Except for that guy in Cuba who has sent me 10+ cards direct and that guy in France who has sent me 15+ cards via the bureau, I respond to each and every request.  I've sent both of them multiple cards but not duplicates for the same PSK31 QSOs.)

I want my cards to be attractive.  I design the front to help promote things that I am passionate about.  My latest cards have something about NC aviation history and US Coast Guard aviation.  I get them from the same place that Jerry gets his.  1000 cards for under $100.00 delivered.

All of my information is on the other side of the card.  There is no reason to have to flip it over and over to see any of the QSO details.  The back side of the card is a standard form from the card vendor.

All bureau cards are sorted with the back side up showing everything needed to get them moving through the network.

I really don't care whether my cards get permanently stashed in a shoe box or get more prominently displayed in someone's shack.  I'm having fun with ham radio.

Happy Radio and have a great weekend!

Bill N4GBK #1688 FM16


 



Re: PropNET

K7DWI Art
 

Good morning,
As I type I am capturing VE3GTC in Ontario, between Ottawa and Montreal.
No better way to know that it is open between Arizona and Canada.

Many methods have been mentioned and tried.
The standard is:
A Transceiver with a computer interface, a Windows Vista or better computer connected to the Internet that is running PropNET's proprietary software called ACDS^31 (written by Jeff Steinkamp N7YG).

My set up is simple:
Rig: 30 year old Yaesu FT-747GX, mic gain and computer audio turned down to operate at 5 watts.
Computer Interface: An old Rigblaster M8, serial interface with USB adapter (Dell's Plug and Play is a problem direct Serial).
Computer: Refurbished Dell Desktop Windows 7 running the ACDS^31 software.

You can Lurk (listen only). I have an old Rat Shack HTX-10 for that (gives the Yaesu a rest).
I also have a Kenwood TS-2000 (Bands other than 10) with a RASCAL interface into an old Dell XP Desktop.
The software runs on XP, but I don't recommend it. I also have 2 laptops that I use from time to time for mostly lurking activities.

It has been fun over my years with them. I have over 100,000 10M Spring/Summer Es captures from PropNET participant signals and many 10's of thousands captures of non-Es (F2) and Non-PropNET participants on 10M and other bands. I have captured on 10 Meters all states in 18 months (2011-12).

I got hooked because it helped me fulfill a desire to figure out on my own what Sporadic Es were doing. 10 Meters has been my favorite HF band, also have been fairly active on 6 & 2 Meters and I am a Math Nerd. I have 2 published papers (CSVHFS Proceedings) and have done many presentations on my findings. 

They do have a Yahoo Group (PropNET-Online) and of course the Website (www.propnet.org).
 
73 Art Jackson KA5DWI/7 070# 2518
Dewey AZ DM34un


 


Re: More on QSL Cards [2 Attachments]

Jerry N9AVY
 

Bill !
 
 
That's the way to do it.  
 
Liked your remarks about Cuban & French stations.  The French station is probably the one who sends pieces of paper rather than real cards ... I have enough to wallpaper a room  

If you work a lot of JA  stations you'll find they will QSL every time they work you...  I have several 10m QSLs , all with same station. Better to have several than none.
 
When I get too many from a station I just ignore them  unless it's different band/mode.
 
When I ship via bureau  having a blank side on my card , I will write the call sign of station in large letters; so the card sorters don't go blind trying to read those small labels or my lousy handwriting.
 
Bill.... a good thread.  Hope some learn from this.
 
73,  Jerry   N9AVY  #454


From: "Bill Garwood n4gbk@... [070]" <070@...>
To: "070@..." <070@...>
Sent: Friday, July 7, 2017 9:39 AM
Subject: [070] More on QSL Cards [2 Attachments]

 
The QSL Card thread had changed so here are some additional comments.

I respond to QSL card requests as a courtesy to other ham operators.  (Except for that guy in Cuba who has sent me 10+ cards direct and that guy in France who has sent me 15+ cards via the bureau, I respond to each and every request.  I've sent both of them multiple cards but not duplicates for the same PSK31 QSOs.)

I want my cards to be attractive.  I design the front to help promote things that I am passionate about.  My latest cards have something about NC aviation history and US Coast Guard aviation.  I get them from the same place that Jerry gets his.  1000 cards for under $100.00 delivered.

All of my information is on the other side of the card.  There is no reason to have to flip it over and over to see any of the QSO details.  The back side of the card is a standard form from the card vendor.

All bureau cards are sorted with the back side up showing everything needed to get them moving through the network.

I really don't care whether my cards get permanently stashed in a shoe box or get more prominently displayed in someone's shack.  I'm having fun with ham radio.

Happy Radio and have a great weekend!

Bill N4GBK #1688 FM16


 



More on QSL Cards

Bill Garwood
 

The QSL Card thread had changed so here are some additional comments.


I respond to QSL card requests as a courtesy to other ham operators.  (Except for that guy in Cuba who has sent me 10+ cards direct and that guy in France who has sent me 15+ cards via the bureau, I respond to each and every request.  I've sent both of them multiple cards but not duplicates for the same PSK31 QSOs.)


I want my cards to be attractive.  I design the front to help promote things that I am passionate about.  My latest cards have something about NC aviation history and US Coast Guard aviation.  I get them from the same place that Jerry gets his.  1000 cards for under $100.00 delivered.


All of my information is on the other side of the card.  There is no reason to have to flip it over and over to see any of the QSO details.  The back side of the card is a standard form from the card vendor.


All bureau cards are sorted with the back side up showing everything needed to get them moving through the network.


I really don't care whether my cards get permanently stashed in a shoe box or get more prominently displayed in someone's shack.  I'm having fun with ham radio.


Happy Radio and have a great weekend!


Bill N4GBK #1688 FM16



 


Re: QSL Cards

ljl2002@att.net
 

Barry,
I saw your sig over here in CT last evening but you faded before I got my chance.
I would definitely take the card if we QSO because of the unusual callsign.
I'll keep looking for ya.  I have until the end of the year so who knows?

So far I've collected five special Canadian calls and always looking for more.

73
Joe
KA1PPV  #1482


On Thursday, July 6, 2017 9:01 PM, "k9wis@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:


 
I was thinking that very thing when I tossed a bunch of cards in my box the other day...looked at them once and who ever cleans my shack when I become a silent key will just toss them in the trash without a second thought..same with all those awards that are stuck in a folder

I found a book at the bookstore a while back where a hams's son took all his dad's qsls and made a memoir of his dad's ham activities using the cards as story points..its titled "Hello World!, a life of ham radio"..a very interesting and nostalgic read..

Brian K9WIS

---- "Jerry n9avy@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:
> Problem is most hams toss nice cards in a box and forget about them.  Seems like  a waste, doesn't it ? BTW, read back over my email ... Sorry  I called you Garry   ... stupid typo. Garry is in Vancouver somewhere... used to be in Pt. Alberni. Jerry  n9avy  
>
> From: "boat.anchor@... [070]" <070@...>
> To: 070@...
> Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 5:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [070] QSL Cards
>
>   JerryI purposely neglected to describe the cards but seeing as you wish to compare mine are matte photo on the front (full colour) and black print on the back.Barry
>
>
> ---In 070@..., wrote :
>
> Geez Barry !  $65 for 150 cards ???   That isn't cheap.  I went to UX5UO Print in Ukraine and got 1000  for almost the same price. Nice cards, one sided, 2 colour and the shipping was included. Took about 2 weeks from Ukraine.  He did nice job, too  , and put a stock logo on, too ! Jerry  N9AVY
>
> From: "boat.anchor@... [070]" <070@...>
> To: 070@...
> Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2017 3:58 PM
> Subject: [070] QSL Cards
>
>  On the subject of QSL cards I promised a couple weeks ago to supply a summary of my card activity for my 2 special event callsigns for 1st six months this year. I do ask for SASE or couple green stamps to help with printing and postage.
> CF7GEMCallsign cost  $0.00card printing 150 cards $65..00contacts - 898 to end of JuneQSL card requests - 6  or 0.668% of contacts want the card
> VB7150Callsign cost  $67.00card printing 150 cards $65..00contacts - 2382 to end of JuneQSL card requests - 23  or  0.965% want the card
> I had initially ordered what I anticipated to be a one month supply of cards and it looks like I have more than enough for the whole year. I will let you draw your own conclusions. If you need any more info please ask.Barry
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Re: 13 Colonies

ljl2002@att.net
 

Rick,
I'm still holding out for K2M in PA.  I still don't have my home State of CT.  He has only been on 20m and we are too close to work right now.  He was running PSK63 but it was extremely faint.  I'm hoping that he jumps down on 40m like some have in the evening.  K2G has really been cranking them out.  I'll bet they come in with the most Q's.
There's still time so hang in there.
GL
Joe
KA1PPV  #1482


On Thursday, July 6, 2017 11:22 AM, "n7we1980@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:


 
Thanks Steve and Joe.  I had no joy yesterday.  Am continuing to try today...but it is all done by midnight EDT tonight.  Not too promising from here.  Looks like heavy thunderstorms and lightning will shut me down again this afternoon and early evening.  Oh well, that is what happens this time of year in central Florida.  I'm just staying home and sweating with the oldies this summer.  Wait a minute....drat!......I am one of those oldies!

Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602



Re: PropNET

Thomas Kisner <tom@...>
 


I believe I've gotten e-mail from PropNet when I've been spotted by them.  Very handy tool.

73,

Tom KN6Q

On Jul 7, 2017, at 7:09 AM, Marty martygrove@... [070] <070@...> wrote:

 

Figured I'd change the subject line to be more in line with the topic. 

Well... color me dazzled.  So it is a true, real-time propagation network.  And if I understood your email correctly, it uses just the PSK31 protocol now?  I haven't had a chance to read up on PropNET yet... will do so soon.  I'm interested in seeing what the ham's use for their radios on PropNet; do they use their barefoot (turned down to 5 or 10 watts) or QRP rigs?  Are they using kits (i.e Altoids can kits) and leave them dedicated to PropNet reporting?  I'm sure I'll gather all that info when I pour through the docs at PropNet. 

Thanks again Art.  Very interesting stuff.

Marty - KJ4LQX


On 07/07/2017 01:07 AM, ka5dwi@... [070] wrote:
 

HI Marty,

PropNET is just an adhoc group of Hams that have been doing real time propagation reporting for over 15 years. It once used AX.25 on 6 Meters and in 2004 got smarter, switched to PSK31, developed software, used LiveX to warehouse sent and received formatted packets and make real time reporting maps. In 2010, the ability to report on captures of non-PropNET PSK31 was added.

They are not affiliated with any other groups, but I would put their reporting as good as and better that all of the others. It is highly accurate and has very minimal errors.
 
On 10 Meters, you will find no less than 10 active PropNET stations during the Es season, usually many more.
We usually run no more than 10 watts, most less (I run 5) and besides our timed formatted packets (call, 6 character grid square, PHG code) we also have our Robots turned on.  It's a good way to find out if you are getting out. 
You can find us on any band, but the most popular are 10, 30 and 6 Meters.  FCC rules only allow us to operate near PSK31 activity on those 3 bands. On 10 Meters we operate at 28.1188 MHz +1500 Hz. 

I have been active with them off and on since 2004.  You will find a number of research papers and Blog posts I have written about 10-Meter propagation linked on the website. They are all mathematical/statistical based. I am a retired Banker and Math educator. I like to dazzle and baffle everyone with charts.

They are always looking for participants. www.propnet.org

73 Art KA5DWI/7 #2518
 




Sent via the http://KN6Q.org server in Briar Texas.


Re: PropNET

Marty Grove
 

Figured I'd change the subject line to be more in line with the topic. 

Well... color me dazzled.  So it is a true, real-time propagation network.  And if I understood your email correctly, it uses just the PSK31 protocol now?  I haven't had a chance to read up on PropNET yet... will do so soon.  I'm interested in seeing what the ham's use for their radios on PropNet; do they use their barefoot (turned down to 5 or 10 watts) or QRP rigs?  Are they using kits (i.e Altoids can kits) and leave them dedicated to PropNet reporting?  I'm sure I'll gather all that info when I pour through the docs at PropNet. 

Thanks again Art.  Very interesting stuff.

Marty - KJ4LQX


On 07/07/2017 01:07 AM, ka5dwi@... [070] wrote:
 

HI Marty,

PropNET is just an adhoc group of Hams that have been doing real time propagation reporting for over 15 years. It once used AX.25 on 6 Meters and in 2004 got smarter, switched to PSK31, developed software, used LiveX to warehouse sent and received formatted packets and make real time reporting maps. In 2010, the ability to report on captures of non-PropNET PSK31 was added.

They are not affiliated with any other groups, but I would put their reporting as good as and better that all of the others. It is highly accurate and has very minimal errors.
 
On 10 Meters, you will find no less than 10 active PropNET stations during the Es season, usually many more.
We usually run no more than 10 watts, most less (I run 5) and besides our timed formatted packets (call, 6 character grid square, PHG code) we also have our Robots turned on.  It's a good way to find out if you are getting out. 
You can find us on any band, but the most popular are 10, 30 and 6 Meters.  FCC rules only allow us to operate near PSK31 activity on those 3 bands. On 10 Meters we operate at 28.1188 MHz +1500 Hz. 

I have been active with them off and on since 2004.  You will find a number of research papers and Blog posts I have written about 10-Meter propagation linked on the website. They are all mathematical/statistical based. I am a retired Banker and Math educator. I like to dazzle and baffle everyone with charts.

They are always looking for participants. www.propnet.org

73 Art KA5DWI/7 #2518
 

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