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Re: Not bad for bad conditions

k9wis@...
 

I heard you call me on 80 right near the end of the contest...but no joy I guess..
Brian K9WIS
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---- "David Hardy davehardy0101@aol.com [070]" <070@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Ended up with about 86 contacts. It was like pulling teeth. I was able to get 20 and 40 but no 80 meter contacts. I did work our 2 newest members who are not on the contest list yet so they aren't counting tonight but I know they'll be added soon.


Glad to have made contacts with all of these great people. Looking forward to an APE to the mountains after Field Day. Hope all of you are going to be on the air for Field Day.


David Hardy
davehardy0101@aol.com

KB3RAN 1692/381 TDW BONUS


Re: Missing ?

Jerry N9AVY
 

John:
 
 
Ouch, new knee !
 
Had 2 friends who got new knees... their advice was to get up and walk on it right away. 
 
Sorry I  missed you in test, your absence was duly noted.  Knee is more important.
 
Jerry  N9AVY



From: "John Bower poppajohnbower@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: [070] Missing ?

 
Hi Jerry,
I played for an hour or za then off to get a new knee. I missed all you guys. Get released today.
Best
John KE4JB 

On May 27, 2017 2:03 PM, "Jerry n9avy@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:
 

Seems like a lot of the usual suspects are missing in TDW  or is it bad propagation ?   Dawgs & beer ?
 
Jerry   N9AVY  #454



Re: Missing ?

Rick - N7WE
 

Hey John - 
Glad you are getting out today.  I wish you an easy rehab and quick recovery.  Keep the WD-40 handy...hi hi!

Jerry - You are right....sucky prop!  Terrible decodes.  I use HRD and highlight the exchange, right click for the drop down, and copy it to "Rcvd Exch"  Well, when I uploaded I got 3 busted QSO's for wrong member number.  I'll have to charge it off to poor decode.  And it doesn't feel right to go back now and edit the log as I copied what I received.  Won't make any difference anyway, as I was way, way down the list.  But I had some fun.

Maybe next year will be better.  We can hope.  Now got to get to work on antennas for the High Band Challenge June 17/18.  Never done that one before!

Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602


Re: Missing ?

Jerry N9AVY
 

Joe:
 
 
It wasn't just you, it was just about everyone.  Propagation was sucky and probably the worst I've seen in a long time.  Think we're at beginning of Cycle 25 , as the ARRL propagation guy told me last month. It will improve as we move in the coming months/years.
 
 
Jerry  n9avy



From: "'ljl2002@...' joe_molon@... [070]" <070@...>
To: "070@..." <070@...>
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: [070] Re: Missing ?

 
Jerry,
Saw you briefly but couldn't get through.
I was dealing with an abnormal amount of QRM & QSB this weekend but I was able to make a few contacts.
73
Joe
KA1PPV  #1482


On Saturday, May 27, 2017 5:25 PM, "Jerry n9avy@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:


 
Ray:
 
 
Understand that.  My grandkids are scattered from Minnesota to Kansas to California.  One from MN is here this weekend and I have one living with me.  Everyone has their priorities and that's ok.  Just made an observation on the lack of participants and lousy conditions.   
 
Jerry  N9AVY      




From: "'Ray Cleme! nts' r.clements@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: [070] Re: Missing ?

 
That is what is known as an "opportunity cost". By definition, resources (usually time and money) are always limited. When we determine how we spend our time an money, not only do we give up the resources, but we also give up the alternatives upon which those resources might have been spent. That is the "opportunity cost". 

I have an only granddaughter who lives 900 miles away; I only get to see her once, perhaps twice, per year. Thus, I think giving up radio for the weekend to spend with your granddaughter was an appropriate use of resources... opportunity cost well spent. Plus, keeping your wife happy was a bonus that will pay dividends. 

Ray N9RWC

 


------ Original Message ------
Received: 03:15 PM CDT, 05/27/2017
From: "Jim Innis jinnis@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] Re: Missing ?


 
K5SP wants to get on, but family is getting in the way.  Have great granddaughter here this weekend and xyl doesn't want to hear that there is a contest....

Jim, K5SP

On 5/27/2017 2:15 PM, steve@... [070] wrote:
 
My count is definitely down from last year. Very long gaps between Qs.  I've had a lot more "almost qso's" this contest weekend then past, where I get a reply to a CQ, i send my exchange, exchange from other station not heard..   I think someone keeps tripping over the 20m cord and pulling it out of the wall.   

As has been the case the past few months,  20 didn't wake up until late in the morning.  It's very weak here now (1500 eastern), but has been up and down all weekend. When it opens up I get a whole lot of weak traces from europe for a minute or so, and then fades out with just a few traces left.

40 wasn't bad last night, a lot of solid signals, but there were not a lot of 070 members on...

I am seeing a ton of cw activity on the low side of 20 for the cq cw wpx contest.  Maybe everyone has migrated to cw and jt65 to cope with solar cycle.

On the bright side, I'm getting a lot more gardening (well, weed pulling) done today than I had thought I would....

/steve  - w1hs #2173










Re: Missing ?

John Bower <poppajohnbower@...>
 

Hi Jerry,
I played for an hour or za then off to get a new knee. I missed all you guys. Get released today.
Best
John KE4JB 

On May 27, 2017 2:03 PM, "Jerry n9avy@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:
 


Seems like a lot of the usual suspects are missing in TDW  or is it bad propagation ?   Dawgs & beer ?
 
Jerry   N9AVY  #454


Re: Missing ?

ljl2002@att.net
 

Jerry,
Saw you briefly but couldn't get through.
I was dealing with an abnormal amount of QRM & QSB this weekend but I was able to make a few contacts.
73
Joe
KA1PPV  #1482


On Saturday, May 27, 2017 5:25 PM, "Jerry n9avy@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:


 
Ray:
 
 
Understand that.  My grandkids are scattered from Minnesota to Kansas to California.  One from MN is here this weekend and I have one living with me.  Everyone has their priorities and that's ok.  Just made an observation on the lack of participants and lousy conditions.   
 
Jerry  N9AVY      




From: "'Ray Clements' r.clements@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: [070] Re: Missing ?

 
That is what is known as an "opportunity cost". By definition, resources (usually time and money) are always limited. When we determine how we spend our time an money, not only do we give up the resources, but we also give up the alternatives upon which those resources might have been spent. That is the "opportunity cost". 

I have an only granddaughter who lives 900 miles away; I only get to see her once, perhaps twice, per year. Thus, I think giving up radio for the weekend to spend with your granddaughter was an appropriate use of resources... opportunity cost well spent. Plus, keeping your wife happy was a bonus that will pay dividends. 

Ray N9RWC

 


------ Original Message ------
Received: 03:15 PM CDT, 05/27/2017
From: "Jim Innis jinnis@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] Re: Missing ?


 
K5SP wants to get on, but family is getting in the way.  Have great granddaughter here this weekend and xyl doesn't want to hear that there is a contest....

Jim, K5SP

On 5/27/2017 2:15 PM, steve@... [070] wrote:
 
My count is definitely down from last year. Very long gaps between Qs.  I've had a lot more "almost qso's" this contest weekend then past, where I get a reply to a CQ, i send my exchange, exchange from other station not heard..   I think someone keeps tripping over the 20m cord and pulling it out of the wall.   

As has been the case the past few months,  20 didn't wake up until late in the morning.  It's very weak here now (1500 eastern), but has been up and down all weekend. When it opens up I get a whole lot of weak traces from europe for a minute or so, and then fades out with just a few traces left.

40 wasn't bad last night, a lot of solid signals, but there were not a lot of 070 members on...

I am seeing a ton of cw activity on the low side of 20 for the cq cw wpx contest.  Maybe everyone has migrated to cw and jt65 to cope with solar cycle.

On the bright side, I'm getting a lot more gardening (well, weed pulling) done today than I had thought I would....

/steve  - w1hs #2173








Re: Its was fun when I could get on...

David Westbrook
 

I did noticed that the scorer did not allow AD9H #2530 as a valid 070# and may be because he was not in the  database at the time it was downloaded.  So, I’m assuming that will be corrected and the appropriate points added to my score.

Your are correct!  I had pulled the membership list on friday to apply to the TDW scorer settings; And just now pulled it again to pick up the new members from the contest period, and I automatically rescored all the uploaded logs so the points have been applied.
Looks like there are 3 more calls in the membership application queue from today, so I'll rescore again when those make it through.

73!
--david
KJ4IZW



On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 8:31 PM, Dan Morris dbmorris315@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
 

I also had fun and wasn’t on the air as much as I would have liked but did okay for the times I was on.  


I did noticed that the scorer did not allow AD9H #2530 as a valid 070# and may be because he was not in the 
database at the time it was downloaded.  So, I’m assuming that will be corrected and the appropriate points added to my score.

Thanks everyone for all the contacts during the contest.  I thoroughly enjoyed it even though the bands could
have been better.  I had one guy from GA who must have been using a lot of power as when he come on, he completely wiped out my waterfall and I’m in NC.  He was NOT an 070 member!!!

Dan Morris  KZ3T  070-1065






On May 28, 2017, at 8:16 PM, k9wis@... [070] <070@...> wrote:

I got few hours in for this contest..it was fun..but I do need a decent logging program for it.
I used HRD and logged all my contacts with it, but not sure what the contest scoring program will require when I submit..I pretty much copied the call in the call field but the entire exchange, 'report name number' is in the RCVD exchange field. Do I need to massage my log to seperate the exchange to seperate fields to score properly..I dont want guys to get gipped out of thier bonus points.

I suspect for the next 365 days I'll be working on a logging program for this contest, or at least trying to make a N1mm contest file or sweet talking N3FJP into making one...hi hi..

Had fun...
Brian K9WIS PODXS #970




Re: Its was fun when I could get on...

David Westbrook
 

It's best if the call goes in the call field, name in name field, report in the RST/report field, and the 070# in the contest exchange (or comments) field.   The scorer looks for the first number in the contest received exchange field (ADIF SRX or SRX_STRING), or in the COMMENT or NOTES fields if the contest exchange isn't used.

==> If in doubt with the scorer, just upload!  The report will show what's right/wrong, and you can re-upload as many times as needed (it just completely replaces the prior upload).  And it makes it much easier for support (contests@... ; currently David K9DWR is "behind the curtain") because your log is already on the server, and we can easily review the report and the original ADIF upload.

Lots of HRD users on here, they can help with the specific fields (i know HRD has them).

Personally, I use and recommend the DXLab Suite.  WinWarbler is the digital component of it, and supports a contest mode with a checkbox, and provides contest sent/received exchange fields, and has basic contest-dup support.

One of the driving reasons I started the scorer was so that contest-specific configurations in individual programs would not be necessary, and that not even "contest loggers" would be needed (though they still do provided advanced functionality).  Where contest Q's can be logged normally with same "every day" software, with the appropriate info in the respective fields, and the logger exporting to the standard ADIF, and the [centralized] scorer does the rest.   No claimed-scores, no contest-specific cabrillo formats, no hand-editing of files, just [your logger]->exportToADIF->upload and instant scoring report; specifically to encourage more casual or inexperienced contest participation, and more logs overall.   Of course, as the project evolved that was easier said than done :) but just mentioning that reasoning as part of my philosophy and the history behind the scorer and endorsement checker.

73!
--david
KJ4IZW


On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 8:16 PM, k9wis@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
 

I got few hours in for this contest..it was fun..but I do need a decent logging program for it.
I used HRD and logged all my contacts with it, but not sure what the contest scoring program will require when I submit..I pretty much copied the call in the call field but the entire exchange, 'report name number' is in the RCVD exchange field. Do I need to massage my log to seperate the exchange to seperate fields to score properly..I dont want guys to get gipped out of thier bonus points.

I suspect for the next 365 days I'll be working on a logging program for this contest, or at least trying to make a N1mm contest file or sweet talking N3FJP into making one...hi hi..

Had fun...
Brian K9WIS PODXS #970



Not bad for bad conditions

DAVE KB3RAN 1692/381
 

Ended up with about 86 contacts.  It was like pulling teeth.  I was able to get 20 and 40 but no 80 meter contacts.  I did work our 2 newest members who are not on the contest list yet so they aren't counting tonight but I know they'll be added soon.

Glad to have made contacts with all of these great people.  Looking forward to an APE to the mountains after Field Day.  Hope all of you are going to be on the air for Field Day.  

David Hardy   
KB3RAN  1692/381  TDW BONUS
 


Re: Is WA6I Deaf ?

Jerry N9AVY
 

Had that for a while on Saturday for a while.  Think it might be a propagation phase shift on the signal  which somehow messes things up.
 
 
Jerry  n9avy



From: "Dan Morris dbmorris315@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070 List Service 070 List Service <070@...>
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 7:44 PM
Subject: Re: [070] Is WA6I Deaf ?

 
Brian — Well, I seemed to have the same problem on some of the signals.  The signals looked awful good but for some reason or other the program (PSK Express) would not decode certain parts of the transmission but would get most.  I think we need to chalk that up to the weird band condx as you were saying!!!

Dan Morris  KZ3T





On May 28, 2017, at 8:40 PM, k9wis@... [070] <070@...> wrote:

lol...cheddar curtain...I'll have to use that one at the QRP Cheeseheads ARC meeting next week..
Brian K9WIS

---- "Jerry n9avy@... [070]" <070@...> wrote: 
> Shoulda been able to hear you, but saw KB3RAN working you on both 40 & 80m.  It's poor propagation when I can't get across the Cheddar Curtain.   :-(
> Jerry  N9AVY
> From: "k9wis@... [070]" <070@...>
> To: 070@... 
> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 7:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [070] Re: Is WA6I Deaf ?
>  
>   40 meters was weird last nite...saw some strong signals on the waterfall but HRD couldnt decode them..today no problem...gremlins and sprites....sigh
> Brian K9WIS
> 
> ---- "steve@... [070]" <070@...> wrote: 
> > Wolf: 
> > 
> > This is slightly off topic, but hey, it's not like we're all working tons of PSK right now -)
> > 
> > 
> > Pskreporter is really good for telling how far your transmissions are getting, but it is not good at objectively telling you how well your signals are being received. 
> > 
> > 
> > WSPR is pretty cool tool for comparing antenna performance. If you have two transmitters you can run at the same time, or If you get yourself a Sotabeams WSPRLite (200mw) and put it on one antenna and run WSJT on your computer into the other antenna you can do a really good objective analysis of performance.
> > 
> > 
> > Make sure you set your pc transmit power so both are the same, and use a compound callsign on the WSJT to differentiate from the WSPRLite. If you run both at the same time, for a few hours, you can glean some really useful objective information, including comparing which antenna has a greater distance as well as comparing received signal strength at stations that receive both of your signals during the same time interval.
> > 
> > 
> > Because you can look at rx strength at stations receiving both of your signals during the same interval you can rule out fading, local interference at the receive station and other propagation variables. Knowing that yesterday PSK on antenna 1 got you as far as Greenland, but PSK today on antenna 2 got you to Italy isn't that helpful. But knowing that yesterday between 1pm and 5pm you were being received 21dB better in the midwest on antenna 1 while at the same time antenna 2 was getting you into Europe but antenna 1 wasn't, and antenna 1 was getting you into south america, but antenna 2 wasn't really helps characterize each antenna.
> > 
> > 
> > I learned all sorts of interesting things about my 3 dipoles here (hoa restrictions, no tower for me, sadly), including a surprise that one of the smaller lower dipoles performs much better on 40m into the west then the larger higher one does. Knowing how each antenna actually performs made a huge difference for me in the past few contests, and even hitting some ATNO dx stations as I've been able to switch antennas based on knowing which one does better where.
> > 
> > 
> > Anywho, 20 just picked up for a few minutes, got 3 Qs in 4 minutes, which is one less than I got over the previous 8 hours...
> > 
> > 
> > 73,
> > /steve - w1hs
> > 
> > 
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Re: Is WA6I Deaf ?

Jerry N9AVY
 

Been using that line for years ... it's a "flatlander" thing.      In  Northern Illinois we refer to everything South of I-80 as "4-land".   Hi , Hi !
 
Jerry  N9AVY



From: "k9wis@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 7:41 PM
Subject: Re: [070] Re: Is WA6I Deaf ?

 
lol...cheddar curtain...I'll have to use that one at the QRP Cheeseheads ARC meeting next week..
Brian K9WIS

---- "Jerry n9avy@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:
> Shoulda been able to hear you, but saw KB3RAN working you on both 40 & 80m.  It's poor propagation when I can't get across the Cheddar Curtain.   :-(
> Jerry  N9AVY
> From: "k9wis@... [070]" <070@...>
> To: 070@...
> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 7:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [070] Re: Is WA6I Deaf ?
>
>   40 meters was weird last nite...saw some strong signals on the waterfall but HRD couldnt decode them..today no problem...gremlins and sprites....sigh
> Brian K9WIS
>
> ---- "steve@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:
> > Wolf:
> >
> > This is slightly off topic, but hey, it's not like we're all working tons of PSK right now -)
> >
> >
> > Pskreporter is really good for telling how far your transmissions are getting, but it is not good at objectively telling you how well your signals are being received.
> >
> >
> > WSPR is pretty cool tool for comparing antenna performance. If you have two transmitters you can run at the same time, or If you get yourself a Sotabeams WSPRLite (200mw) and put it on one antenna and run WSJT on your computer into the other antenna you can do a really good objective analysis of performance.
> >
> >
> > Make sure you set your pc transmit power so both are the same, and use a compound callsign on the WSJT to differentiate from the WSPRLite. If you run both at the same time, for a few hours, you can glean some really useful objective information, including comparing which antenna has a greater distance as well as comparing received signal strength at stations that receive both of your signals during the same time interval.
> >
> >
> > Because you can look at rx strength at stations receiving both of your signals during the same interval you can rule out fading, local interference at the receive station and other propagation variables. Knowing that yesterday PSK on antenna 1 got you as far as Greenland, but PSK today on antenna 2 got you to Italy isn't that helpful. But knowing that yesterday between 1pm and 5pm you were being received 21dB better in the midwest on antenna 1 while at the same time antenna 2 was getting you into Europe but antenna 1 wasn't, and antenna 1 was getting you into south america, but antenna 2 wasn't really helps characterize each antenna.
> >
> >
> > I learned all sorts of interesting things about my 3 dipoles here (hoa restrictions, no tower for me, sadly), including a surprise that one of the smaller lower dipoles performs much better on 40m into the west then the larger higher one does. Knowing how each antenna actually performs made a huge difference for me in the past few contests, and even hitting some ATNO dx stations as I've been able to switch antennas based on knowing which one does better where.
> >
> >
> > Anywho, 20 just picked up for a few minutes, got 3 Qs in 4 minutes, which is one less than I got over the previous 8 hours...
> >
> >
> > 73,
> > /steve - w1hs
> >
> >
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Re: Is WA6I Deaf ?

Dan Morris - KZ3T
 

Brian — Well, I seemed to have the same problem on some of the signals.  The signals looked awful good but for some reason or other the program (PSK Express) would not decode certain parts of the transmission but would get most.  I think we need to chalk that up to the weird band condx as you were saying!!!

Dan Morris  KZ3T





On May 28, 2017, at 8:40 PM, k9wis@... [070] <070@...> wrote:

lol...cheddar curtain...I'll have to use that one at the QRP Cheeseheads ARC meeting next week..
Brian K9WIS

---- "Jerry n9avy@... [070]" <070@...> wrote: 
> Shoulda been able to hear you, but saw KB3RAN working you on both 40 & 80m.  It's poor propagation when I can't get across the Cheddar Curtain.   :-(
> Jerry  N9AVY
> From: "k9wis@... [070]" <070@...>
> To: 070@... 
> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 7:09 PM
> Subject: Re: [070] Re: Is WA6I Deaf ?
>  
>   40 meters was weird last nite...saw some strong signals on the waterfall but HRD couldnt decode them..today no problem...gremlins and sprites....sigh
> Brian K9WIS
> 
> ---- "steve@... [070]" <070@...> wrote: 
> > Wolf: 
> > 
> > This is slightly off topic, but hey, it's not like we're all working tons of PSK right now -)
> > 
> > 
> > Pskreporter is really good for telling how far your transmissions are getting, but it is not good at objectively telling you how well your signals are being received. 
> > 
> > 
> > WSPR is pretty cool tool for comparing antenna performance. If you have two transmitters you can run at the same time, or If you get yourself a Sotabeams WSPRLite (200mw) and put it on one antenna and run WSJT on your computer into the other antenna you can do a really good objective analysis of performance.
> > 
> > 
> > Make sure you set your pc transmit power so both are the same, and use a compound callsign on the WSJT to differentiate from the WSPRLite. If you run both at the same time, for a few hours, you can glean some really useful objective information, including comparing which antenna has a greater distance as well as comparing received signal strength at stations that receive both of your signals during the same time interval.
> > 
> > 
> > Because you can look at rx strength at stations receiving both of your signals during the same interval you can rule out fading, local interference at the receive station and other propagation variables. Knowing that yesterday PSK on antenna 1 got you as far as Greenland, but PSK today on antenna 2 got you to Italy isn't that helpful. But knowing that yesterday between 1pm and 5pm you were being received 21dB better in the midwest on antenna 1 while at the same time antenna 2 was getting you into Europe but antenna 1 wasn't, and antenna 1 was getting you into south america, but antenna 2 wasn't really helps characterize each antenna.
> > 
> > 
> > I learned all sorts of interesting things about my 3 dipoles here (hoa restrictions, no tower for me, sadly), including a surprise that one of the smaller lower dipoles performs much better on 40m into the west then the larger higher one does. Knowing how each antenna actually performs made a huge difference for me in the past few contests, and even hitting some ATNO dx stations as I've been able to switch antennas based on knowing which one does better where.
> > 
> > 
> > Anywho, 20 just picked up for a few minutes, got 3 Qs in 4 minutes, which is one less than I got over the previous 8 hours...
> > 
> > 
> > 73,
> > /steve - w1hs
> > 
> > 
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Re: Its was fun when I could get on...

k9wis@...
 

thanks for the heads up Keith..i just need to know how the parse the exchange for the adi file for now..time to sit back and enjoy the warm weather for a few days..
Brian K9WIS

---- "Keith Cox n9vel@hotmail.com [070]" <070@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Brian,

I would recommend the fldigi program. It has the ability to switch to contest mode. Then all you need to do is click on the exchange and it will fill in the srx that is required.

Hope this helps.
73 de Keith n9vel 0771

Sent from my iPad

On May 28, 2017, at 8:16 PM, k9wis@twc.com<mailto:k9wis@twc.com> [070] <070@yahoogroups.com<mailto:070@yahoogroups.com>> wrote:



I got few hours in for this contest..it was fun..but I do need a decent logging program for it.
I used HRD and logged all my contacts with it, but not sure what the contest scoring program will require when I submit..I pretty much copied the call in the call field but the entire exchange, 'report name number' is in the RCVD exchange field. Do I need to massage my log to seperate the exchange to seperate fields to score properly..I dont want guys to get gipped out of thier bonus points.

I suspect for the next 365 days I'll be working on a logging program for this contest, or at least trying to make a N1mm contest file or sweet talking N3FJP into making one...hi hi..

Had fun...
Brian K9WIS PODXS #970


Re: Is WA6I Deaf ?

k9wis@...
 

lol...cheddar curtain...I'll have to use that one at the QRP Cheeseheads ARC meeting next week..
Brian K9WIS

---- "Jerry n9avy@sbcglobal.net [070]" <070@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Shoulda been able to hear you, but saw KB3RAN working you on both 40 & 80m.  It's poor propagation when I can't get across the Cheddar Curtain.   :-(
Jerry  N9AVY
From: "k9wis@twc.com [070]" <070@yahoogroups.com>
To: 070@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: [070] Re: Is WA6I Deaf ?

  40 meters was weird last nite...saw some strong signals on the waterfall but HRD couldnt decode them..today no problem...gremlins and sprites....sigh
Brian K9WIS

---- "steve@stevegoldsmith.com [070]" <070@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Wolf:

This is slightly off topic, but hey, it's not like we're all working tons of PSK right now -)


Pskreporter is really good for telling how far your transmissions are getting, but it is not good at objectively telling you how well your signals are being received.


WSPR is pretty cool tool for comparing antenna performance. If you have two transmitters you can run at the same time, or If you get yourself a Sotabeams WSPRLite (200mw) and put it on one antenna and run WSJT on your computer into the other antenna you can do a really good objective analysis of performance.


Make sure you set your pc transmit power so both are the same, and use a compound callsign on the WSJT to differentiate from the WSPRLite. If you run both at the same time, for a few hours, you can glean some really useful objective information, including comparing which antenna has a greater distance as well as comparing received signal strength at stations that receive both of your signals during the same time interval.


Because you can look at rx strength at stations receiving both of your signals during the same interval you can rule out fading, local interference at the receive station and other propagation variables. Knowing that yesterday PSK on antenna 1 got you as far as Greenland, but PSK today on antenna 2 got you to Italy isn't that helpful. But knowing that yesterday between 1pm and 5pm you were being received 21dB better in the midwest on antenna 1 while at the same time antenna 2 was getting you into Europe but antenna 1 wasn't, and antenna 1 was getting you into south america, but antenna 2 wasn't really helps characterize each antenna.


I learned all sorts of interesting things about my 3 dipoles here (hoa restrictions, no tower for me, sadly), including a surprise that one of the smaller lower dipoles performs much better on 40m into the west then the larger higher one does. Knowing how each antenna actually performs made a huge difference for me in the past few contests, and even hitting some ATNO dx stations as I've been able to switch antennas based on knowing which one does better where.


Anywho, 20 just picked up for a few minutes, got 3 Qs in 4 minutes, which is one less than I got over the previous 8 hours...


73,
/steve - w1hs

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Re: Its was fun when I could get on...

 

Brian,

I would recommend the fldigi program. It has the ability to switch to contest mode. Then all you need to do is click on the exchange and it will fill in the srx that is required.

Hope this helps.
73 de Keith n9vel 0771

Sent from my iPad

On May 28, 2017, at 8:16 PM, k9wis@... [070] <070@...> wrote:

 

I got few hours in for this contest..it was fun..but I do need a decent logging program for it.
I used HRD and logged all my contacts with it, but not sure what the contest scoring program will require when I submit..I pretty much copied the call in the call field but the entire exchange, 'report name number' is in the RCVD exchange field. Do I need to massage my log to seperate the exchange to seperate fields to score properly..I dont want guys to get gipped out of thier bonus points.

I suspect for the next 365 days I'll be working on a logging program for this contest, or at least trying to make a N1mm contest file or sweet talking N3FJP into making one...hi hi..

Had fun...
Brian K9WIS PODXS #970


Re: Its was fun when I could get on...

Dan Morris - KZ3T
 

I also had fun and wasn’t on the air as much as I would have liked but did okay for the times I was on.  

I did noticed that the scorer did not allow AD9H #2530 as a valid 070# and may be because he was not in the 
database at the time it was downloaded.  So, I’m assuming that will be corrected and the appropriate points added to my score.

Thanks everyone for all the contacts during the contest.  I thoroughly enjoyed it even though the bands could
have been better.  I had one guy from GA who must have been using a lot of power as when he come on, he completely wiped out my waterfall and I’m in NC.  He was NOT an 070 member!!!

Dan Morris  KZ3T  070-1065






On May 28, 2017, at 8:16 PM, k9wis@... [070] <070@...> wrote:

I got few hours in for this contest..it was fun..but I do need a decent logging program for it.
I used HRD and logged all my contacts with it, but not sure what the contest scoring program will require when I submit..I pretty much copied the call in the call field but the entire exchange, 'report name number' is in the RCVD exchange field. Do I need to massage my log to seperate the exchange to seperate fields to score properly..I dont want guys to get gipped out of thier bonus points.

I suspect for the next 365 days I'll be working on a logging program for this contest, or at least trying to make a N1mm contest file or sweet talking N3FJP into making one...hi hi..

Had fun...
Brian K9WIS PODXS #970



Re: Is WA6I Deaf ?

Jerry N9AVY
 

Shoulda been able to hear you, but saw KB3RAN working you on both 40 & 80m.  It's poor propagation when I can't get across the Cheddar Curtain.   :-(

Jerry  N9AVY


From: "k9wis@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: [070] Re: Is WA6I Deaf ?

 
40 meters was weird last nite...saw some strong signals on the waterfall but HRD couldnt decode them..today no problem...gremlins and sprites....sigh
Brian K9WIS

---- "steve@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:
> Wolf:
>
> This is slightly off topic, but hey, it's not like we're all working tons of PSK right now -)
>
>
> Pskreporter is really good for telling how far your transmissions are getting, but it is not good at objectively telling you how well your signals are being received.
>
>
> WSPR is pretty cool tool for comparing antenna performance. If you have two transmitters you can run at the same time, or If you get yourself a Sotabeams WSPRLite (200mw) and put it on one antenna and run WSJT on your computer into the other antenna you can do a really good objective analysis of performance.
>
>
> Make sure you set your pc transmit power so both are the same, and use a compound callsign on the WSJT to differentiate from the WSPRLite. If you run both at the same time, for a few hours, you can glean some really useful objective information, including comparing which antenna has a greater distance as well as comparing received signal strength at stations that receive both of your signals during the same time interval.
>
>
> Because you can look at rx strength at stations receiving both of your signals during the same interval you can rule out fading, local interference at the receive station and other propagation variables. Knowing that yesterday PSK on antenna 1 got you as far as Greenland, but PSK today on antenna 2 got you to Italy isn't that helpful. But knowing that yesterday between 1pm and 5pm you were being received 21dB better in the midwest on antenna 1 while at the same time antenna 2 was getting you into Europe but antenna 1 wasn't, and antenna 1 was getting you into south america, but antenna 2 wasn't really helps characterize each antenna.
>
>
> I learned all sorts of interesting things about my 3 dipoles here (hoa restrictions, no tower for me, sadly), including a surprise that one of the smaller lower dipoles performs much better on 40m into the west then the larger higher one does. Knowing how each antenna actually performs made a huge difference for me in the past few contests, and even hitting some ATNO dx stations as I've been able to switch antennas based on knowing which one does better where.
>
>
> Anywho, 20 just picked up for a few minutes, got 3 Qs in 4 minutes, which is one less than I got over the previous 8 hours...
>
>
> 73,
> /steve - w1hs
>
>




Its was fun when I could get on...

k9wis@...
 

I got few hours in for this contest..it was fun..but I do need a decent logging program for it.
I used HRD and logged all my contacts with it, but not sure what the contest scoring program will require when I submit..I pretty much copied the call in the call field but the entire exchange, 'report name number' is in the RCVD exchange field. Do I need to massage my log to seperate the exchange to seperate fields to score properly..I dont want guys to get gipped out of thier bonus points.

I suspect for the next 365 days I'll be working on a logging program for this contest, or at least trying to make a N1mm contest file or sweet talking N3FJP into making one...hi hi..

Had fun...
Brian K9WIS PODXS #970


Re: Is WA6I Deaf ?

k9wis@...
 

40 meters was weird last nite...saw some strong signals on the waterfall but HRD couldnt decode them..today no problem...gremlins and sprites....sigh
Brian K9WIS

---- "steve@stevegoldsmith.com [070]" <070@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Wolf:

This is slightly off topic, but hey, it's not like we're all working tons of PSK right now -)


Pskreporter is really good for telling how far your transmissions are getting, but it is not good at objectively telling you how well your signals are being received.


WSPR is pretty cool tool for comparing antenna performance. If you have two transmitters you can run at the same time, or If you get yourself a Sotabeams WSPRLite (200mw) and put it on one antenna and run WSJT on your computer into the other antenna you can do a really good objective analysis of performance.


Make sure you set your pc transmit power so both are the same, and use a compound callsign on the WSJT to differentiate from the WSPRLite. If you run both at the same time, for a few hours, you can glean some really useful objective information, including comparing which antenna has a greater distance as well as comparing received signal strength at stations that receive both of your signals during the same time interval.


Because you can look at rx strength at stations receiving both of your signals during the same interval you can rule out fading, local interference at the receive station and other propagation variables. Knowing that yesterday PSK on antenna 1 got you as far as Greenland, but PSK today on antenna 2 got you to Italy isn't that helpful. But knowing that yesterday between 1pm and 5pm you were being received 21dB better in the midwest on antenna 1 while at the same time antenna 2 was getting you into Europe but antenna 1 wasn't, and antenna 1 was getting you into south america, but antenna 2 wasn't really helps characterize each antenna.


I learned all sorts of interesting things about my 3 dipoles here (hoa restrictions, no tower for me, sadly), including a surprise that one of the smaller lower dipoles performs much better on 40m into the west then the larger higher one does. Knowing how each antenna actually performs made a huge difference for me in the past few contests, and even hitting some ATNO dx stations as I've been able to switch antennas based on knowing which one does better where.


Anywho, 20 just picked up for a few minutes, got 3 Qs in 4 minutes, which is one less than I got over the previous 8 hours...


73,
/steve - w1hs


Re: Is WA6I Deaf ?

Steve Goldsmith -w1hs-
 

Wolf:

This is slightly off topic, but hey, it's not like we're all working tons of PSK right now -)

Pskreporter is really good for telling how far your transmissions are getting, but it is not good at objectively telling you how well your signals are being received. 

WSPR is pretty cool tool for comparing antenna performance.  If you have two transmitters you can run at the same time, or If you get yourself a Sotabeams WSPRLite (200mw) and put it on one antenna and run WSJT on your computer into the other antenna you can do a really good objective analysis of performance.

Make sure you set your pc transmit power so both are the same, and use a compound callsign on the WSJT to differentiate from the WSPRLite.    If you run both at the same time, for a few hours, you can glean some really useful  objective information, including comparing which antenna has a greater distance as well as comparing received signal strength at stations that receive both of your signals during the same time interval.

Because you can look at rx strength at stations receiving both of your signals during the same interval you can rule out fading, local interference at the receive station and other propagation variables.  Knowing that yesterday PSK on antenna 1 got you as far as Greenland, but PSK today on antenna 2 got you to Italy isn't that helpful.  But knowing that yesterday between 1pm and 5pm you were being received 21dB better in the midwest on antenna 1 while at the same time antenna 2 was getting you into Europe but antenna 1 wasn't, and antenna 1 was getting you into south america, but antenna 2 wasn't really helps characterize each antenna.

I learned all sorts of interesting things about my 3 dipoles here (hoa restrictions, no tower for me, sadly), including a surprise that one of the smaller lower dipoles performs much better on 40m into the west  then the larger higher one does.  Knowing how each antenna actually performs made a huge difference for me in the past few contests, and even hitting some ATNO dx stations as I've been able to switch antennas based on knowing which one does better where.

Anywho, 20 just picked up for a few minutes, got 3 Qs in 4 minutes, which is one less than I got over the previous 8 hours...

73,
/steve - w1hs

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