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TEAM VIEWER

Lewis Karriker (Sonny) - K4ARE - #2347
 

Using Team Viewer, just made and logged a contact with CT4KG in Portugal from my laptop.  I love this program - thanks to all for the Traveling discussion and the help.

Lewis

K4ARE

#2347


Welcome

Jim K5SP
 

Please join me in welcoming our new PODXS070 member(s).

2495  Randy  N8SJS

Jim, K5SP #483
Membership Director


Re: 40m qrp

Jody Carter
 

I'm on 40 as well. I'll look for you. I'm calling on 7071.5.



From: "Paul Butzi kg7stv@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Monday, March 6, 2017 8:17 PM
Subject: [070] 40m qrp

 
If anyone is looking for qrp tri-band contacts I’m on 40m now calling cq at 7070.9, 5 watts.

band looks sorta dead but you never know...


-p KG7STV
73, don’t forget to smile and have fun






40m qrp

Paul Butzi <kg7stv@...>
 

If anyone is looking for qrp tri-band contacts I’m on 40m now calling cq at 7070.9, 5 watts.

band looks sorta dead but you never know...


-p KG7STV
73, don’t forget to smile and have fun




Re: 14.070 Music

David, K9DWR
 

Simpler, maybe; but where’s the fun in that? :-)


David, K9DWR
#1604 LONP #255
david@...

On Mar 6, 2017, at 10:46, Jerry n9avy@... [070] <070@...> wrote:


Wouldn't it be simpler to just unplug the microphone ? My West Mountain M8 runs fine with no mic.


Re: 14.070 Music

Jerry N9AVY
 

Wouldn't it be simpler to just unplug the microphone ?  My West Mountain M8  runs fine with no mic.

Jerry  n9avy



From: "'Ray Clements' r.clements@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Monday, March 6, 2017 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [070] Re: 14.070 Music

 
My primary rig is an Icom 7600 that has a built in sound card interface for digital modes. It automatically disconnects the microphone when working digital modes. 

I also have an Icom 7000 that I use with a SignaLink interface. The microphone input on the IC7000 is "hot" anytime the rig is transmitting. 

The microphone connects to the  IC7000 via a RJ45 connector. I purchased a RJ45 connector (female to female) and a short RJ45 ethernet cable. I then cut the jumper wire inside of the F/F connector that feeds the microphone element. That allows all of the microphone buttons to continue to work, but no background sounds will be transmitted when using the SignaLink. I also have a second F/F connector with all of the jumpers intact that can be used when I am working phone.  

Although disconnecting the microphone element is easy with the RJ45 connectors, it should be possible to create a breakout box for any type of connector.

N9RWC


------ Original Message ------
Received: 10:04 AM CST, 03/06/2017
From: "k3jzd.jody@... [070]" <070@...>
To: <070@...>
Subject: [070] Re: 14.070 Music


 
There are situations which would allow this to be done accidentally on a digital interface setup that relies on the VOX circuit to pickup the radio's PTT.  

For example, the microphone on my Icom IC-756pro3 is live all of the time - it does not connect and disconnect with the PTT Switch. So, if I had my always-live microphone connected, and I left the radio turned on with some digital mode software running, and I had a setup that relied on the VOX circuit to pickup the PTT, and then I got busy watching some YouTube video on the computer, then the microphone would pick that up audio and the VOX circuit would then key the transmitter. This always-live microphone situation may be typical for all Icom radios and maybe for some other brands. 

I do not use the VOX circuit to pickup my radio's PTT - my setup uses a COM Port. So what I just described is not a possibility for me.  However, I can still inject some unintentional audio while using a digital mode if I have left my always-live microphone plugged in. I watch my power output closely on my power meter.  If I see some fluttering in my power output whenever I am using some digital mode, that is a result of my live microphone picking up audio from the cooling fan in the radio or from my nearby 2 meter radio, or from any other nearby noise source.  So, although I will catch it quickly, and then unplug my microphone to eliminate it, I have been guilty of adding some garbage onto my digital signal for a short time once in a while.

Now, for me this is self induced pain because my Icom IC-756proIII has a USB-D Mode which is selected by pressing the USB button for 1 second after I am already in USB mode. If I remember to do that, then this USB-D Mode disables the microphone, eliminating the need for me to unplug it.  But, for one reason or another, I'm in the habit of [usually] unplugging my microph one so that I can move it out of the way.  So I hardly ever select that USB-D Mode.  Guess I should change my habit and start using that USB-D mode all of the time.

Jody - K3JZD





Re: 14.070 Music

Ray Clements
 

My primary rig is an Icom 7600 that has a built in sound card interface for digital modes. It automatically disconnects the microphone when working digital modes. 

I also have an Icom 7000 that I use with a SignaLink interface. The microphone input on the IC7000 is "hot" anytime the rig is transmitting. 

The microphone connects to the  IC7000 via a RJ45 connector. I purchased a RJ45 connector (female to female) and a short RJ45 ethernet cable. I then cut the jumper wire inside of the F/F connector that feeds the microphone element. That allows all of the microphone buttons to continue to work, but no background sounds will be transmitted when using the SignaLink. I also have a second F/F connector with all of the jumpers intact that can be used when I am working phone.  

Although disconnecting the microphone element is easy with the RJ45 connectors, it should be possible to create a breakout box for any type of connector.

N9RWC


------ Original Message ------
Received: 10:04 AM CST, 03/06/2017
From: "k3jzd.jody@... [070]" <070@...>
To: <070@...>
Subject: [070] Re: 14.070 Music


 

There are situations which would allow this to be done accidentally on a digital interface setup that relies on the VOX circuit to pickup the radio's PTT.  

For example, the microphone on my Icom IC-756pro3 is live all of the time - it does not connect and disconnect with the PTT Switch. So, if I had my always-live microphone connected, and I left the radio turned on with some digital mode software running, and I had a setup that relied on the VOX circuit to pickup the PTT, and then I got busy watching some YouTube video on the computer, then the microphone would pick that up audio and the VOX circuit would then key the transmitter. This always-live microphone situation may be typical for all Icom radios and maybe for some other brands. 

I do not use the VOX circuit to pickup my radio's PTT - my setup uses a COM Port. So what I just described is not a possibility for me.  However, I can still inject some unintentional audio while using a digital mode if I have left my always-live microphone plugged in. I watch my power output closely on my power meter.  If I see some fluttering in my power output whenever I am using some digital mode, that is a result of my live microphone picking up audio from the cooling fan in the radio or from my nearby 2 meter radio, or from any other nearby noise source.  So, although I will catch it quickly, and then unplug my microphone to eliminate it, I have been guilty of adding some garbage onto my digital signal for a short time once in a while.

Now, for me this is self induced pain because my Icom IC-756proIII has a USB-D Mode which is selected by pressing the USB button for 1 second after I am already in USB mode. If I remember to do that, then this USB-D Mode disables the microphone, eliminating the need for me to unplug it.  But, for one reason or another, I'm in the habit of [usually] unplugging my microph one so that I can move it out of the way.  So I hardly ever select that USB-D Mode.  Guess I should change my habit and start using that USB-D mode all of the time.

Jody - K3JZD




Re: 14.070 Music

Jerry N9AVY
 

I've worked Greg, WA3GM, when he was in FL using his station in PA probably more than a few times.  Instead of sitting knee deep in snow, he's enjoying the fun & sun in FL and not dragging a rig and antennas around ! 

Jerry N9AVY  #454

From: "David Rock david@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Monday, March 6, 2017 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: [070] 14.070 Music

It’s not that hard to believe. I’ve actually heard it in action before.  One contact I made with a guy in Texas was using a laptop out on his porch to do this and it worked great.  I’m not saying I recommend it, but I’m not saying it’s a bad idea, either.


David, K9DWR
#1604 LONP #255
david@...

> On Mar 5, 2017, at 19:02, Radio radio@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
>
> Unbelievably  I have had people suggest that using your computer’s speakers and the mic input on another computer is a completely acceptable way to run sound card digital.  Just don’t sneeze :)
>
>
> 73 de Eric, KG6MZS
>
>
>> On Mar 5, 2017, at 11:15 AM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>> In hear a lot of this... mostly on 20m.    I hear computer sign on sounds, people talking on voice, music and whatever.  It has been going on for past few years.
>>
>>  Mostly  I believe it's a bunch of people who use their computer for everything when they should have a dedicated computer for ham radio only.




Re: 14.070 Music

Jody - K3JZD
 

There are situations which would allow this to be done accidentally on a digital interface setup that relies on the VOX circuit to pickup the radio's PTT.  

For example, the microphone on my Icom IC-756pro3 is live all of the time - it does not connect and disconnect with the PTT Switch. So, if I had my always-live microphone connected, and I left the radio turned on with some digital mode software running, and I had a setup that relied on the VOX circuit to pickup the PTT, and then I got busy watching some YouTube video on the computer, then the microphone would pick that up audio and the VOX circuit would then key the transmitter. This always-live microphone situation may be typical for all Icom radios and maybe for some other brands. 

I do not use the VOX circuit to pickup my radio's PTT - my setup uses a COM Port. So what I just described is not a possibility for me.  However, I can still inject some unintentional audio while using a digital mode if I have left my always-live microphone plugged in. I watch my power output closely on my power meter.  If I see some fluttering in my power output whenever I am using some digital mode, that is a result of my live microphone picking up audio from the cooling fan in the radio or from my nearby 2 meter radio, or from any other nearby noise source.  So, although I will catch it quickly, and then unplug my microphone to eliminate it, I have been guilty of adding some garbage onto my digital signal for a short time once in a while.

Now, for me this is self induced pain because my Icom IC-756proIII has a USB-D Mode which is selected by pressing the USB button for 1 second after I am already in USB mode. If I remember to do that, then this USB-D Mode disables the microphone, eliminating the need for me to unplug it.  But, for one reason or another, I'm in the habit of [usually] unplugging my microphone so that I can move it out of the way.  So I hardly ever select that USB-D Mode.  Guess I should change my habit and start using that USB-D mode all of the time.

Jody - K3JZD


Re: 14.070 Music

David, K9DWR
 

It’s not that hard to believe. I’ve actually heard it in action before. One contact I made with a guy in Texas was using a laptop out on his porch to do this and it worked great. I’m not saying I recommend it, but I’m not saying it’s a bad idea, either.


David, K9DWR
#1604 LONP #255
david@...

On Mar 5, 2017, at 19:02, Radio radio@... [070] <070@...> wrote:

Unbelievably I have had people suggest that using your computer’s speakers and the mic input on another computer is a completely acceptable way to run sound card digital. Just don’t sneeze :)


73 de Eric, KG6MZS


On Mar 5, 2017, at 11:15 AM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] <070@...> wrote:


In hear a lot of this... mostly on 20m. I hear computer sign on sounds, people talking on voice, music and whatever. It has been going on for past few years.

Mostly I believe it's a bunch of people who use their computer for everything when they should have a dedicated computer for ham radio only.


Re: operating when travelling

Alan Sorum WL7CG
 

All,

I routinely run my station with Chrome Remote Desktop. I use HDR rig control with DM780 and JTDX to work PSK and JT. I only have two antenna ports on my FT-950, so one is normally on the yagi and the other a dipole.

It works on my laptop from wherever I can get online. Eventually I will get a rotor controller that can be directed by HRD.

Alan WL7CG


On 3/5/17 6:19 PM, David Westbrook dwestbrook@... [070] wrote:

 
Let me second Matt's suggestion about TeamViewer.  I've used it with a tablet connected via internet to the laptop/rig setup at home.  Works like a champ, but I found the keyboarding on a tablet to be a challenge.

Besides TeamViewer, other options are VNC, Chrome Remote Desktop (mentioned later in this thread), and MS RDP ... (or any other remote control software). 

A laptop nor tablet isn't necessary -- team viewer and VNC apps work quite well from a phone!   Keyboarding isn't the best, BUT, it's really not needed if you're just hopping on to snag a 365-credit macro QSO. 

It also works quite well from in the house when you can't be in the shack.  I did a bunch of my 365 credits "remote" on phone from another room.

Another option besides remote controlling your station, is to remote control someone else's -- you don't have to find a local club station when travelling, and the logistics are probably much easier, if you can arrange to remote to someone's home station.

73!
--david
KJ4IZW



On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 5:07 PM, n7we1980@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
 

Paul - YOU CAN DO IT!  One of the challenges of 365+1 is coming up with unique solutions to getting on air every day.  Fun!

Let me second Matt's suggestion about TeamViewer.  I've used it with a tablet connected via internet to the laptop/rig setup at home.  Works like a champ, but I found the keyboarding on a tablet to be a challenge.  Would have preferred a second laptop.  The neat thing is your ham software only has to be on the home computer.  Any computer with TeamViewer downloaded can be the remote!  I know Paula K7PAX has used it for PSK QSOs so she might have some more insight.

As to portable rigs, be sure to consider QRP - something like the FT-817.  It doesn't have to be DX to count for 365 and if you can set up a schedule on 40 or 80 with someone in the town you will be in, it almost guarantees a QSO.

I've never tried this, but you might check out the possibility of guest operation at a club station in the town you will be visiting. The ARRL website has club listings that you can search by city/state/radius that would be a good starting point. I think Steve W3HF has some sort of arrangement with a club in Denver when he is there on business. He's probably a member of their club.  Might check with him for insight.

Of course, if you want to dream, or you win the lottery, there is the Elecraft KX2 - built in PSK encode/decode where you send via keying CW from the paddles!  80-10m, fits in your shirt pocket, 13 oz, internal battery, 10w out...optional internal ATU, add an extendable whip antenna and you are good to go...a HandiTalki PSK rig!  (If I were rich I'd have one and loan it to you.)

So there are lots of possible solutions.  You can do it.  Keep us posted on how you make it happen!  GL!

Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602




Re: 14.070 Music

David Westbrook
 

Mostly  I believe it's a bunch of people who use their computer for everything when they should have a dedicated computer for ham radio only. 

They should have a dedicated *soundcard* for the radio, not necessarily a dedicated computer.

And the soundcard (PC soundcard, or radio/interface device treated as a soundcard) just simply should not be set as the windows default soundcard.

With USB soundcards dirt cheap these days ( as little as $2 shipped; or $10 for the next quality tier), there's really no reason not to have one. 

73!
--david
KJ4IZW

On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 2:15 PM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
 

In hear a lot of this... mostly on 20m.    I hear computer sign on sounds, people talking on voice, music and whatever.  It has been going on for past few years. 

 Mostly  I believe it's a bunch of people who use their computer for everything when they should have a dedicated computer for ham radio only. 

Jerry  n9avy



From: "'K9HW' k9hw@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2017 1:01 PM
Subject: RE: [070] 14.070 Music

 
 
Haven't heard it here today, rarely hear music but there is at least one station out there that uses the computer soundcard for audio.  Quite often you can hear it boot or other computer sounds.  One day you could hear him playing solitaire!  Doesn't mute the mic either, I've been able to hear voices in the background but not enough to identify the station of course.  Fortunately it doesn't usually last very long nor is it all that frequent but it does happen.
 
Harry, K9HW
From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 10:40 AM
To: 070 List Service 070 List Service
Subject: [070] 14.070 Music
 
 
First time I've ever heard something like this - is it common????
 
Will QSY to 40m, I guess.




Re: operating when travelling

David Westbrook
 

Let me second Matt's suggestion about TeamViewer.  I've used it with a tablet connected via internet to the laptop/rig setup at home.  Works like a champ, but I found the keyboarding on a tablet to be a challenge.

Besides TeamViewer, other options are VNC, Chrome Remote Desktop (mentioned later in this thread), and MS RDP ... (or any other remote control software). 

A laptop nor tablet isn't necessary -- team viewer and VNC apps work quite well from a phone!   Keyboarding isn't the best, BUT, it's really not needed if you're just hopping on to snag a 365-credit macro QSO. 

It also works quite well from in the house when you can't be in the shack.  I did a bunch of my 365 credits "remote" on phone from another room.

Another option besides remote controlling your station, is to remote control someone else's -- you don't have to find a local club station when travelling, and the logistics are probably much easier, if you can arrange to remote to someone's home station.

73!
--david
KJ4IZW



On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 5:07 PM, n7we1980@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
 

Paul - YOU CAN DO IT!  One of the challenges of 365+1 is coming up with unique solutions to getting on air every day.  Fun!

Let me second Matt's suggestion about TeamViewer.  I've used it with a tablet connected via internet to the laptop/rig setup at home.  Works like a champ, but I found the keyboarding on a tablet to be a challenge.  Would have preferred a second laptop.  The neat thing is your ham software only has to be on the home computer.  Any computer with TeamViewer downloaded can be the remote!  I know Paula K7PAX has used it for PSK QSOs so she might have some more insight.

As to portable rigs, be sure to consider QRP - something like the FT-817.  It doesn't have to be DX to count for 365 and if you can set up a schedule on 40 or 80 with someone in the town you will be in, it almost guarantees a QSO.

I've never tried this, but you might check out the possibility of guest operation at a club station in the town you will be visiting. The ARRL website has club listings that you can search by city/state/radius that would be a good starting point. I think Steve W3HF has some sort of arrangement with a club in Denver when he is there on business. He's probably a member of their club.  Might check with him for insight.

Of course, if you want to dream, or you win the lottery, there is the Elecraft KX2 - built in PSK encode/decode where you send via keying CW from the paddles!  80-10m, fits in your shirt pocket, 13 oz, internal battery, 10w out...optional internal ATU, add an extendable whip antenna and you are good to go...a HandiTalki PSK rig!  (If I were rich I'd have one and loan it to you.)

So there are lots of possible solutions.  You can do it.  Keep us posted on how you make it happen!  GL!

Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602



Re: operating when travelling

Steve W3HF
 

Just realized that I neglected to say WHICH article in QST.

AD5X, July 2002. Phil updated his design a few times, including a publication on eHam and then finally on his web site, but I'm still using the original design.

Steve 
 
On 03/05/17, Stephen Melachrinos w3hf@... [070]<070@...> wrote:
 


Paul -

I've done all four of these.

1) I've used a quick-and-dirty approach to remote operation: Chrome Remote Desktop. Like some of the other suggestions, you have complete access to anything on the shack computer. As an added bonus, I've also used it to remote into my parents' two computer (for remote tech support) and my daughter's laptop at college (to help her with a statistics assignment.) It's a free download from the Google Play Store. This option has the advantage of being cheap (free) and easy to set up.

2) Many of you have worked me from certain portable operations--VQ9HF, W3HF/KH6, W3HF/3 come to mind. I've operated with both an FT817 and an FT857. The latter made it easier to make QSOs from Diego Garcia. Antenna was from the article in QST back about fifteen (!) years ago, and I carry a small Windows laptop. I've taken that station (literally) halfway around the world, all packed in a single suitcase with my clothes, etc. (The laptop and radio were usually in a carry-on.)

3) I've operated at Bill W7QQ's station in California (back when he lived there), and he has operated from my station here in PA. 

4) And I've obviously operated from a number of club stations--W3HF/0, W3HF/6, and W3HF/KH2 were all from clubs of one sort or another. If you can make this work, this may give you a better-equipped station than taking your own.

Steve
W3HF 
 
On 03/05/17, Bill Williams ag4qx@... [070]<070@...> wrote:
 


One solution is to visit a club in the area.  Our club would be happy to have someone use one of the radios but getting a member to open the shack on the right day/s might be a problem.

73,
Bill
AG4QX
0398

On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 2:58 PM, Paul Butzi kg7stv@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
 

Ok, after arranging most of this year’s travel so that I could complete the 365/366 endorsement this year, the best laid plans have gone astray and now I’m faced with needing to make QSO’s on may 26th and 27th but will be in Boulder, CO at that time.


The possible solutions I see are:
1) find a way to set my current rig for portable operation
2) acquire/borrow a rig that will let me operate portably, said rig being small enough/light enough to travel by air with.
3) arrange with some ham to use his PSK capable rig at the destination for the 2 days I will need QSO’s

Anyone have other ideas not covered by those options?

To my eye the one that sounds appealing is option 2, as it leaves me not only with a solution to the immediate problem but also gear to operate while I am traveling.

Suggestions on gear for portable operation eagerly solicited.

-p KG7STV
73, don’t forget to smile and have fun









Re: operating when travelling

wa3gm
 

I agree with Steve

I use chrome remote desktop all the time when I am away especially in FL when I go there for the winter. 

I can remote back to my station at home and it is almost like being there without the cold weather of course.

I worked the ARRL SSB Contest a few years ago while I was in the way to FL when I was in  the auto train.

73
Greg
Wa3gm 



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

-------- Original message --------
From: "Stephen Melachrinos w3hf@... [070]" <070@...>
Date: 3/5/17 9:55 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: Re: [070] operating when travelling

 

Paul -

I've done all four of these.

1) I've used a quick-and-dirty approach to remote operation: Chrome Remote Desktop. Like some of the other suggestions, you have complete access to anything on the shack computer. As an added bonus, I've also used it to remote into my parents' two computer (for remote tech support) and my daughter's laptop at college (to help her with a statistics assignment.) It's a free download from the Google Play Store. This option has the advantage of being cheap (free) and easy to set up.

2) Many of you have worked me from certain portable operations--VQ9HF, W3HF/KH6, W3HF/3 come to mind. I've operated with both an FT817 and an FT857. The latter made it easier to make QSOs from Diego Garcia. Antenna was from the article in QST back about fifteen (!) years ago, and I carry a small Windows laptop. I've taken that station (literally) halfway around the world, all packed in a single suitcase with my clothes, etc. (The laptop and radio were usually in a carry-on.)

3) I've operated at Bill W7QQ's station in California (back when he lived there), and he has operated from my station here in PA. 

4) And I've obviously operated from a number of club stations--W3HF/0, W3HF/6, and W3HF/KH2 were all from clubs of one sort or another. If you can make this work, this may give you a better-equipped station than taking your own.

Steve
W3HF 
 
On 03/05/17, Bill Williams ag4qx@... [070]<070@...> wrote:
 


One solution is to visit a club in the area.  Our club would be happy to have someone use one of the radios but getting a member to open the shack on the right day/s might be a problem.

73,
Bill
AG4QX
0398

On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 2:58 PM, Paul Butzi kg7stv@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
 

Ok, after arranging most of this year’s travel so that I could complete the 365/366 endorsement this year, the best laid plans have gone astray and now I’m faced with needing to make QSO’s on may 26th and 27th but will be in Boulder, CO at that time.


The possible solutions I see are:
1) find a way to set my current rig for portable operation
2) acquire/borrow a rig that will let me operate portably, said rig being small enough/light enough to travel by air with.
3) arrange with some ham to use his PSK capable rig at the destination for the 2 days I will need QSO’s

Anyone have other ideas not covered by those options?

To my eye the one that sounds appealing is option 2, as it leaves me not only with a solution to the immediate problem but also gear to operate while I am traveling.

Suggestions on gear for portable operation eagerly solicited.

-p KG7STV
73, don’t forget to smile and have fun







Re: operating when travelling

Steve W3HF
 

Paul -

I've done all four of these.

1) I've used a quick-and-dirty approach to remote operation: Chrome Remote Desktop. Like some of the other suggestions, you have complete access to anything on the shack computer. As an added bonus, I've also used it to remote into my parents' two computer (for remote tech support) and my daughter's laptop at college (to help her with a statistics assignment.) It's a free download from the Google Play Store. This option has the advantage of being cheap (free) and easy to set up.

2) Many of you have worked me from certain portable operations--VQ9HF, W3HF/KH6, W3HF/3 come to mind. I've operated with both an FT817 and an FT857. The latter made it easier to make QSOs from Diego Garcia. Antenna was from the article in QST back about fifteen (!) years ago, and I carry a small Windows laptop. I've taken that station (literally) halfway around the world, all packed in a single suitcase with my clothes, etc. (The laptop and radio were usually in a carry-on.)

3) I've operated at Bill W7QQ's station in California (back when he lived there), and he has operated from my station here in PA. 

4) And I've obviously operated from a number of club stations--W3HF/0, W3HF/6, and W3HF/KH2 were all from clubs of one sort or another. If you can make this work, this may give you a better-equipped station than taking your own.

Steve
W3HF 
 
On 03/05/17, Bill Williams ag4qx@... [070]<070@...> wrote:
 


One solution is to visit a club in the area.  Our club would be happy to have someone use one of the radios but getting a member to open the shack on the right day/s might be a problem.

73,
Bill
AG4QX
0398

On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 2:58 PM, Paul Butzi kg7stv@... [070] <070@...> wrote:
 

Ok, after arranging most of this year’s travel so that I could complete the 365/366 endorsement this year, the best laid plans have gone astray and now I’m faced with needing to make QSO’s on may 26th and 27th but will be in Boulder, CO at that time.


The possible solutions I see are:
1) find a way to set my current rig for portable operation
2) acquire/borrow a rig that will let me operate portably, said rig being small enough/light enough to travel by air with.
3) arrange with some ham to use his PSK capable rig at the destination for the 2 days I will need QSO’s

Anyone have other ideas not covered by those options?

To my eye the one that sounds appealing is option 2, as it leaves me not only with a solution to the immediate problem but also gear to operate while I am traveling.

Suggestions on gear for portable operation eagerly solicited.

-p KG7STV
73, don’t forget to smile and have fun







Re: 14.070 Music

Morris WA4MIT
 

The vast majority of computer sold have only sound card you have to add a second sound card to use same computer for other purposes while on the air. Now back in windows 98 the sound card set up had many more options that you could mute the different inputs when you using one these new computers do not have these options. I have heard people playing games, what sounded like monitoring a repeater, you name it and its been sent out over the air. 
73 Morris WA4MIT


On Sunday, March 5, 2017 7:56 PM, "'Ray Clements' r.clements@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:


 
That may not be the problem at all.

It is quite possible for a computer to have multiple sound "cards". The computer I use for my station has three sound cards.
One is the internal sound card connected to the internal speakers of the laptop. This is default sound card used for music, videos, error alert sounds, etc.
The second sound card is the one built into my ICOM 7600 radio that is used for digital sound card modes.

The third sound card is part of a sound mixer that is connected to my radio for SSB phone.

As long as I have the correct sound card selected for each software application, everything works fine. However, if I make a mistake and select one of the sound cards that are connected to my radio as the default sound card then any sounds generated by my computer can go out over the radio. Even if I had a computer dedicated to my station that I never used for anything else,  the default sound card setting could be set incorrectly.

I suspect improper sound card settings are the reason for strange sounds going out over the airwaves.


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Unbelievably  I have had people suggest that using your computer’s speakers and the mic input on another computer is a completely acceptable way to run sound card digital.  Just don’t sneeze :)

73 de Eric, KG6MZS


On Mar 5, 2017, at 11:15 AM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] <070@...> wrote:


In hear a lot of this... mostly on 20m.    I hear computer sign on sounds, people talking on voice, music and whatever.  It has been going on for past few years. 

 Mostly  I believe it's a bunch of people who use their computer for everything when they should have a dedicated computer for ham radio only.  

Jerry  n9avy



From: "'K9HW' k9hw@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@... 
Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2017 1:01 PM
Subject: RE: [070] 14.070 Music

 
 
Haven't heard it here today, rarely hear music but there is at least one station out there that uses the computer soundcard for audio.  Quite often you can hear it boot or other computer sounds.  One day you could hear him playing solitaire!  Doesn't mute the mic either, I've been able to hear voices in the background but not enough to identify the station of course.  Fortunately it doesn't usually last very long nor is it all that frequent but it does happen.
 
Harry, K9HW
From: 070@... [mailto:070@...] 
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 10:40 AM
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Subject: [070] 14.070 Music
 
  
First time I've ever heard something like this - is it common????
 
Will QSY to 40m, I guess.









Re: operating when travelling

Paula K7PAX #1739
 

Yes, O have used TeamViewer quite a bit for remote operation last year, and will likely do so again this year to catch the 21 days I have left to finish. If you decide to go that route I'd be happy to answer any questions.

Paula K7PAX #1739

On Mar 5, 2017, at 2:07 PM, n7we1980@... [070] <070@...> wrote:

 

Paul - YOU CAN DO IT!  One of the challenges of 365+1 is coming up with unique solutions to getting on air every day.  Fun!

Let me second Matt's suggestion about TeamViewer.  I've used it with a tablet connected via internet to the laptop/rig setup at home.  Works like a champ, but I found the keyboarding on a tablet to be a challenge.  Would have preferred a second laptop.  The neat thing is your ham software only has to be on the home computer.  Any computer with TeamViewer downloaded can be the remote!  I know Paula K7PAX has used it for PSK QSOs so she might have some more insight.

As to portable rigs, be sure to consider QRP - something like the FT-817.  It doesn't have to be DX to count for 365 and if you can set up a schedule on 40 or 80 with someone in the town you will be in, it almost guarantees a QSO.

I've never tried this, but you might check out the possibility of guest operation at a club station in the town you will be visiting. The ARRL website has club listings that you can search by city/state/radius that would be a good starting point. I think Steve W3HF has some sort of arrangement with a club in Denver when he is there on business. He's probably a member of their club.  Might check with him for insight.

Of course, if you want to dream, or you win the lottery, there is the Elecraft KX2 - built in PSK encode/decode where you send via keying CW from the paddles!  80-10m, fits in your shirt pocket, 13 oz, internal battery, 10w out...optional internal ATU, add an extendable whip antenna and you are good to go...a HandiTalki PSK rig!  (If I were rich I'd have one and loan it to you.)

So there are lots of possible solutions.  You can do it.  Keep us posted on how you make it happen!  GL!

Rick - N7WE
070 - #1602


Re: 14.070 Music

Ray Clements
 

That may not be the problem at all.

It is quite possible for a computer to have multiple sound "cards". The computer I use for my station has three sound cards.
One is the internal sound card connected to the internal speakers of the laptop. This is default sound card used for music, videos, error alert sounds, etc.
The second sound card is the one built into my ICOM 7600 radio that is used for digital sound card modes.

The third sound card is part of a sound mixer that is connected to my radio for SSB phone.

As long as I have the correct sound card selected for each software application, everything works fine. However, if I make a mistake and select one of the sound cards that are connected to my radio as the default sound card then any sounds generated by my computer can go out over the radio. Even if I had a computer dedicated to my station that I never used for anything else,  the default sound card setting could be set incorrectly.

I suspect improper sound card settings are the reason for strange sounds going out over the airwaves.


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Received: 07:02 PM CST, 03/05/2017
From: "Radio radio@... [070]" <070@...>
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Subject: Re: [070] 14.070 Music


 

Unbelievably  I have had people suggest that using your computer’s speakers and the mic input on another computer is a completely acceptable way to run sound card digital.  Just don’t sneeze :)


73 de Eric, KG6MZS


On Mar 5, 2017, at 11:15 AM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] <070@...> wrote:


In hear a lot of this... mostly on 20m.    I hear computer sign on sounds, people talking on voice, music and whatever.  It has been going on for past few years. 

 Mostly  I believe it's a bunch of people who use their computer for everything when they should have a dedicated computer for ham radio only.  

Jerry  n9avy



From: "'K9HW' k9hw@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@... 
Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2017 1:01 PM
Subject: RE: [070] 14.070 Music

 
 
Haven't heard it here today, rarely hear music but there is at least one station out there that uses the computer soundcard for audio.  Quite often you can hear it boot or other computer sounds.  One day you could hear him playing solitaire!  Doesn't mute the mic either, I've been able to hear voices in the background but not enough to identify the station of course.  Fortunately it doesn't usually last very long nor is it all that frequent but it does happen.
 
Harry, K9HW
From: 070@... [mailto:070@...] 
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 10:40 AM
To: 070 List Service 070 List Service
Subject: [070] 14.070 Music
 
  
First time I've ever heard something like this - is it common????
 
Will QSY to 40m, I guess.







Re: 14.070 Music

Jerry N9AVY
 

If you run that way  and you can whistle in baudot, you can run RTTY    :-)

Jerry  n9avy



From: "Radio radio@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2017 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: [070] 14.070 Music

 
Unbelievably  I have had people suggest that using your computer’s speakers and the mic input on another computer is a completely acceptable way to run sound card digital.  Just don’t sneeze :)

73 de Eric, KG6MZS


On Mar 5, 2017, at 11:15 AM, Jerry n9avy@... [070] <070@...> wrote:


In hear a lot of this... mostly on 20m.    I hear computer sign on sounds, people talking on voice, music and whatever.  It has been going on for past few years. 

 Mostly  I believe it's a bunch of people who use their computer for everything when they should have a dedicated computer for ham radio only.  

Jerry  n9avy



From: "'K9HW' k9hw@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@... 
Sent: Sunday, March 5, 2017 1:01 PM
Subject: RE: [070] 14.070 Music

 
 
Haven't heard it here today, rarely hear music but there is at least one station out there that uses the computer soundcard for audio.  Quite often you can hear it boot or other computer sounds.  One day you could hear him playing solitaire!  Doesn't mute the mic either, I've been able to hear voices in the background but not enough to identify the station of course.  Fortunately it doesn't usually last very long nor is it all that frequent but it does happen.
 
Harry, K9HW
From: 070@... [mailto:070@...] 
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 10:40 AM
To: 070 List Service 070 List Service
Subject: [070] 14.070 Music
 
  
First time I've ever heard something like this - is it common????
 
Will QSY to 40m, I guess.