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Re: KQ4KK Congaree NP NP12 On-the-air

Dave Kjellquist, WB5NHL
 

still there been activity is slow   he is seeing your call    he'll be there another few minutes

On 1/8/2016 1:34 PM, 'John Etling' john@... [070] wrote:
 

Is KQ4KK still active on 20m as I have no print on him at all….

 

… I’m just sayin’

 

73 de K3JAE

John Etling

k3jae@...

070 #1820   LONP #321

PODXS 070 – Nobody Special – Just a Member

 

 

 

 

From: Kevin Lemon k0mci@... [070] [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 12:24
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] KQ4KK Congaree NP NP12 On-the-air

 

 

Everyone needs a SnS (short n sweet) macro set. What I find funny is when I do get dx, and they send me a brag file. 

Or later on a flirty email.

Common sense really isn't so common it seems.

 

 

 

Took a while to get him.  Lots of ops calling when he's in QSO and sending long macros. Lots sending their calls several times.  A bit of a zoo !  Seems like a few inexperienced operators.

 

Once he acknowledged me  I sent  "599  IL  TU"  and did Admiral Halsey's famous naval maneuver .

 

Jerry  N9AVY

 

 


From: "dave@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 11:52 AM
Subject: [070] KQ4KK Congaree NP NP12 On-the-air

 

 

Currently on air  14070  PSK31  KQ4KK

Dave,  WB5NHL  #143

 

 



Re: Air as an insulator ...

Mike Flowers
 

As Milt said – with lightning, all bets are off …

 

From: http://www.aharfield.co.uk/lightning-protection-services/about-lightning

 

There is estimated to be around 2,000 lightning storm active around the global at one time creating over 100 strikes per second. These thunderstorms generate a potential difference of 200,000 to 500,000 volts between the Earth’s surface and the ionosphere, with a fair weather current of about 2×10-12 amperes/meter2.

 

- 73 and good DX de Mike, K6MKF, President - NCDXC

 

From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 10:15 AM
To: 070@...
Subject: RE: [070] Air as an insulator ...

 

 

Jerry,

What you saw happened one time...in your basement and could never be recreated...anywhere else...at any time...and you’re dealing with huge, massive voltage, and there are no constants.

Air is the best insulator there is.

Put a lot of air between the voltage terminus and ground and see. Is 6’ a lot? Apparently not when you consider the unknown and unmeasured voltage of lightening.

Concrete is also an insulator. Not a very good insulator, but none the less it insulates to a point. Google “Ufer Ground” and see how concrete is used in construction for grounding...and I mean HUGE buildings!

Milt.

N6MG

 

 

 

From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 9:54 AM
To: yahoogroups <070@...>
Subject: [070] Air as an insulator ...

 

 

I seriously doubt this theory.  Where I once lived just outside Chicago,  Had an 4BTV with radials mounted on roof of house.  Spring storms came around and I ran to basement to disconnect antenna while lightning was all around.  After antenna was disconnected and coax was hanging 6 feet above basement floor, I watched a big, blue arc go from coax to basement floor. 

 

Doubt that air is a good insulator.

 

Jerry  N9AVY


Re: Air as an insulator ...

Kevin Lemon
 

On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 12:28 PM, 'John Etling' john@... [070]
<070@...> wrote:
 

You are perfectly making my point spot on… If air is such a great insulator, what will prevent the lightening from jumping a 1” gap of a glass fuse?

 

… I’m just sayin’

 

73 de K3JAE

John Etling

k3jae@...

070 #1820   LONP #321

PODXS 070 – Nobody Special – Just a Member

 

 

 

 

From: Jerry n9avy@... [070] [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 11:54
To: yahoogroups <070@...>
Subject: [070] Air as an insulator ...

 

 

I seriously doubt this theory.  Where I once lived just outside Chicago,  Had an 4BTV with radials mounted on roof of house.  Spring storms came around and I ran to basement to disconnect antenna while lightning was all around.  After antenna was disconnected and coax was hanging 6 feet above basement floor, I watched a big, blue arc go from coax to basement floor. 

 

Doubt that air is a good insulator.

 

Jerry  N9AVY


Re: KQ4KK Congaree NP NP12 On-the-air

John Etling
 

Is KQ4KK still active on 20m as I have no print on him at all….

 

… I’m just sayin’

 

73 de K3JAE

John Etling

k3jae@...

070 #1820   LONP #321

PODXS 070 – Nobody Special – Just a Member

 

 

 

 

From: Kevin Lemon k0mci@... [070] [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 12:24
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] KQ4KK Congaree NP NP12 On-the-air

 

 

Everyone needs a SnS (short n sweet) macro set. What I find funny is when I do get dx, and they send me a brag file. 

Or later on a flirty email.

Common sense really isn't so common it seems.

 

 

 

Took a while to get him.  Lots of ops calling when he's in QSO and sending long macros. Lots sending their calls several times.  A bit of a zoo !  Seems like a few inexperienced operators.

 

Once he acknowledged me  I sent  "599  IL  TU"  and did Admiral Halsey's famous naval maneuver .

 

Jerry  N9AVY

 

 


From: "dave@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 11:52 AM
Subject: [070] KQ4KK Congaree NP NP12 On-the-air

 

 

Currently on air  14070  PSK31  KQ4KK

Dave,  WB5NHL  #143

 

 


Re: Air as an insulator ...

John Etling
 

You are perfectly making my point spot on… If air is such a great insulator, what will prevent the lightening from jumping a 1” gap of a glass fuse?

 

… I’m just sayin’

 

73 de K3JAE

John Etling

k3jae@...

070 #1820   LONP #321

PODXS 070 – Nobody Special – Just a Member

 

 

 

 

From: Jerry n9avy@... [070] [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 11:54
To: yahoogroups <070@...>
Subject: [070] Air as an insulator ...

 

 

I seriously doubt this theory.  Where I once lived just outside Chicago,  Had an 4BTV with radials mounted on roof of house.  Spring storms came around and I ran to basement to disconnect antenna while lightning was all around.  After antenna was disconnected and coax was hanging 6 feet above basement floor, I watched a big, blue arc go from coax to basement floor. 

 

Doubt that air is a good insulator.

 

Jerry  N9AVY


Re: Air as an insulator ...

Kevin Lemon
 

This topic has me on a mission. Not only am I pondering the sourcing of aircraft arrestors, now I am also wondering if I can find a good 522-1501-00 Collins HF transceiver. 
I'm sure they're out there. 

On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Jerry n9avy@... [070]
<070@...> wrote:
 

Had a couple of Pyrex insulators rated at something like 5 KW and were about 8 inches long.   Unfortunately, they disappeared from my parents garage many years ago.  The 2 little thieves hit every garage in town and only stole radio stuff.  They're probably dead or still in jail... Oh yeah, they worked at Knight Kit when I was there back in 60's ...shipping dept. and had been putting labels on stuff to send to their friends/fences.  They both got fired !

Jerry  N9AVY




From: "Kevin Lemon k0mci@... [070]" <070@...>
To: "070@..." <070@...>
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [070] Air as an insulator ...

 
On a more serious note, I recall buying a 1921-02 arrestor for one of my B727s or DC9s back in the day. Pretty healthy looking device. Planes get hit often, wonder if I can find one.


 
I seriously doubt this theory.  Where I once lived just outside Chicago,  Had an 4BTV with radials mounted on roof of house.  Spring storms came around and I ran to basement to disconnect antenna while lightning was all around.  After antenna was disconnected and coax was hanging 6 feet above basement floor, I watched a big, blue arc go from coax to basement floor. 

Doubt that air is a good insulator.

Jerry  N9AVY



Re: Air as an insulator ...

Jerry N9AVY
 

Had a couple of Pyrex insulators rated at something like 5 KW and were about 8 inches long.   Unfortunately, they disappeared from my parents garage many years ago.  The 2 little thieves hit every garage in town and only stole radio stuff.  They're probably dead or still in jail... Oh yeah, they worked at Knight Kit when I was there back in 60's ...shipping dept. and had been putting labels on stuff to send to their friends/fences.  They both got fired !

Jerry  N9AVY




From: "Kevin Lemon k0mci@... [070]" <070@...>
To: "070@..." <070@...>
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [070] Air as an insulator ...

 
On a more serious note, I recall buying a 1921-02 arrestor for one of my B727s or DC9s back in the day. Pretty healthy looking device. Planes get hit often, wonder if I can find one.


 
I seriously doubt this theory.  Where I once lived just outside Chicago,  Had an 4BTV with radials mounted on roof of house.  Spring storms came around and I ran to basement to disconnect antenna while lightning was all around.  After antenna was disconnected and coax was hanging 6 feet above basement floor, I watched a big, blue arc go from coax to basement floor. 

Doubt that air is a good insulator.

Jerry  N9AVY



Re: KQ4KK Congaree NP NP12 On-the-air

Kevin Lemon
 

Everyone needs a SnS (short n sweet) macro set. What I find funny is when I do get dx, and they send me a brag file. 
Or later on a flirty email.
Common sense really isn't so common it seems.

On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 12:18 PM, Jerry n9avy@... [070]
<070@...> wrote:
 

Took a while to get him.  Lots of ops calling when he's in QSO and sending long macros. Lots sending their calls several times.  A bit of a zoo !  Seems like a few inexperienced operators.

Once he acknowledged me  I sent  "599  IL  TU"  and did Admiral Halsey's famous naval maneuver .

Jerry  N9AVY




From: "dave@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 11:52 AM
Subject: [070] KQ4KK Congaree NP NP12 On-the-air

 
Currently on air  14070  PSK31  KQ4KK

Dave,  WB5NHL  #143




Re: KQ4KK Congaree NP NP12 On-the-air

Jerry N9AVY
 

Took a while to get him.  Lots of ops calling when he's in QSO and sending long macros. Lots sending their calls several times.  A bit of a zoo !  Seems like a few inexperienced operators.

Once he acknowledged me  I sent  "599  IL  TU"  and did Admiral Halsey's famous naval maneuver .

Jerry  N9AVY




From: "dave@... [070]" <070@...>
To: 070@...
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 11:52 AM
Subject: [070] KQ4KK Congaree NP NP12 On-the-air

 
Currently on air  14070  PSK31  KQ4KK

Dave,  WB5NHL  #143




Re: Air as an insulator ...

 

Jerry,

What you saw happened one time...in your basement and could never be recreated...anywhere else...at any time...and you’re dealing with huge, massive voltage, and there are no constants.

Air is the best insulator there is.

Put a lot of air between the voltage terminus and ground and see. Is 6’ a lot? Apparently not when you consider the unknown and unmeasured voltage of lightening.

Concrete is also an insulator. Not a very good insulator, but none the less it insulates to a point. Google “Ufer Ground” and see how concrete is used in construction for grounding...and I mean HUGE buildings!

Milt.

N6MG

 

 

 

From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 9:54 AM
To: yahoogroups <070@...>
Subject: [070] Air as an insulator ...

 

 

I seriously doubt this theory.  Where I once lived just outside Chicago,  Had an 4BTV with radials mounted on roof of house.  Spring storms came around and I ran to basement to disconnect antenna while lightning was all around.  After antenna was disconnected and coax was hanging 6 feet above basement floor, I watched a big, blue arc go from coax to basement floor. 

 

Doubt that air is a good insulator.

 

Jerry  N9AVY


Re: Air as an insulator ...

Kevin Lemon
 

On a more serious note, I recall buying a 1921-02 arrestor for one of my B727s or DC9s back in the day. Pretty healthy looking device. Planes get hit often, wonder if I can find one.


On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 11:54 AM, Jerry n9avy@... [070]
<070@...> wrote:
 

I seriously doubt this theory.  Where I once lived just outside Chicago,  Had an 4BTV with radials mounted on roof of house.  Spring storms came around and I ran to basement to disconnect antenna while lightning was all around.  After antenna was disconnected and coax was hanging 6 feet above basement floor, I watched a big, blue arc go from coax to basement floor. 

Doubt that air is a good insulator.

Jerry  N9AVY


Re: Air as an insulator ...

Kevin Lemon
 

Good. Then I can pull the coax out of my ears.


On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 11:54 AM, Jerry n9avy@... [070]
<070@...> wrote:
 

I seriously doubt this theory.  Where I once lived just outside Chicago,  Had an 4BTV with radials mounted on roof of house.  Spring storms came around and I ran to basement to disconnect antenna while lightning was all around.  After antenna was disconnected and coax was hanging 6 feet above basement floor, I watched a big, blue arc go from coax to basement floor. 

Doubt that air is a good insulator.

Jerry  N9AVY


Air as an insulator ...

Jerry N9AVY
 

I seriously doubt this theory.  Where I once lived just outside Chicago,  Had an 4BTV with radials mounted on roof of house.  Spring storms came around and I ran to basement to disconnect antenna while lightning was all around.  After antenna was disconnected and coax was hanging 6 feet above basement floor, I watched a big, blue arc go from coax to basement floor. 

Doubt that air is a good insulator.

Jerry  N9AVY


KQ4KK Congaree NP NP12 On-the-air

Dave Kjellquist, WB5NHL
 

Currently on air  14070  PSK31  KQ4KK

Dave,  WB5NHL  #143



Re: 7X3WPL (Algeria) on 15m

Kevin Lemon
 

Same here, I've seen Algeria, just can't get back to them. None of my little tricks has borne fruit.


On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Matthew King - KK4CPS mrk.twg@... [070]
<070@...> wrote:
 

I've tried all my antennas and can't get him, but he's coming in strong on 15m right now.


73


Matt King

070 #1708 LONP #261

PODXS 070 Club Executive Director


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Re: 7X3WPL (Algeria) on 15m

John Etling
 

Been on 15m all morning and never heard one peep from Algeria… Pooh!!!!

… I’m just sayin’

 

73 de K3JAE

John Etling

k3jae@...

070 #1820   LONP #321

PODXS 070 – Nobody Special – Just a Member

 

 

 

 

From: Matthew King - KK4CPS mrk.twg@... [070] [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2016 10:54
To: 070@...
Subject: [070] 7X3WPL (Algeria) on 15m

 

 

I've tried all my antennas and can't get him, but he's coming in strong on 15m right now.

 

 

73

 

Matt King

070 #1708 LONP #261

PODXS 070 Club Executive Director

 

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7X3WPL (Algeria) on 15m

Matthew King - KK4CPS <mrk.twg@...>
 

I've tried all my antennas and can't get him, but he's coming in strong on 15m right now.


73


Matt King

070 #1708 LONP #261

PODXS 070 Club Executive Director


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PSKMeter--> one more time + loss's

 

Joe,

You’re definitely included! At 1.5 watts, you can’t afford to lose a DB or even a fraction of a DB.

My #1 DX Elmer, Vince, W5KC, (sk) who lived way back up in Bayou Lafourche`, Louisiana, used to say, all the time:

“Prêter attention à la perte's!

In Cajun French that means, “Pay attention to the loss’s!”

Have you ever measured your RF output at the feed point of your antenna?

It would be interesting to see your output at the feed point of your antenna and your estimated ERP.

Milt.

N6mg

070-650

LONP #76

 

PS: Pls do a log search? Have we ever worked? As N6MG? W6QE? Or my club call, W6QP?

 

 

From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 5:46 AM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] PSKMeter--> one more time.

 

 

Milt,

I'm a weak component (1.5W).  Please don't weed me out.

73

Joe

KA1PPV  #1482

 

On Wednesday, January 6, 2016 8:30 PM, "'Milton Garb' n6mg@... [070]" <070@...> wrote:

 

 

I mentioned the other day, my PSKMeter.

I have 2. Running a truly efficient, flawless, state of the art 25 watt contest station is a constant battle of weeding out weak components! Whew! (tongue in cheek)

Seems I have 2 of everything except 90’ Rohn towers. I only have 1 of those.

Y’all need to check it out. à http://www.softsci.com/p-pskmeter.htm

They’re perfect in my book!

Milt.

N6MG

070-650

LONP #76

 

From: 070@... [mailto:070@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 4:57 PM
To: 070@...
Subject: Re: [070] Re: Splatter and KK7UQ IMD Meter

 

 

The soft science kit looks easy, but the drivers state 2000 / XP / ME. 

Little scary, I'm all out of Windows machines with those platforms.

 

 

Rick

The KK7UQ IMD meter is a nice piece of equipment to have in the arsenal. I don't want to put anyone off Jim's product but at $154.95 some folks may be a bit shy about getting it.

I have the PSK Meter from http://www.softsci.com/p-pskmeter.htm

and it is only $42.30 if still available.

It serves my purpose very well and does help to keep a clean signal.

best regards

Barry

 

 



---In 070@..., <n7we1980@...> wrote :

I followed up with Jim, KJ3N regarding the IMD Meter.  What follows is his reply:

From early 2007 I was the manufacturer of the IMD meter, having bought all the rights to the product from Clint. Glenn was the distributor. When Glenn passed in 2009, I took over all aspects of the meter.

I have a limited supply of parts to make another 20-25 meters before production ceases. Several parts (mainly the case) have been discontinued over that last 2-3 years and replacements will be unavailable. Also, sales have dwindled to the point where I don't keep stock anymore. I now build meters as orders come in.

The current price for the IMD meter is $154.95 plus shipping (USPS Priority Mail).

Let me know if you would like to proceed further.


I asked for his permission to post it here.  He agreed, with the following caveats:

You can post it with the following caveats:

1) One of the parts has to be sent from the UK (the only place I could find stock), so there will be a significant delay (2-3 weeks at least) in filling any orders going forward from here. I will not order that part unless I have a firm commitment for at least 5 meters. Nobody has to pay until product is ready to ship, but I need that commitment to cover costs.

2) Shipping is limited to USA and Canada. Overseas shipments simply cost too much ($25 the last time I did it), even using First Class Mail. Priority Mail rates are outrageous.

Anyone committed to purchasing an IMD meter under the above circumstances, should sent an email to imd-meter@... and I will reply to each person from there.

Jim


These are great aids to making sure your transmissions are clean and it sounds like they will soon be no more!  If you want one, pls contact Jim directly at the email given above.  I have no connection to Jim other than having one of the IMD meters and being a very satisfied customer!

Rick - N7WE - #1602
 

 

 

 


Re: Remote Control Fun

Kevin Lemon
 

If air is the best insulator, does anyone know where I can get pl259 to ear adaptors? If I run one side to each of my ears..


On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 10:13 AM, boat.anchor@... [070]
<070@...> wrote:
 

Jerry

I have been anxiously watching the past couple days. I am glad to report back that you definitely
appear to still be alive. I was worried we were being contacted from the other side on a freq that
we were not aware of. This could have got you in the record books.
TIC
Barry



---In 070@..., wrote :

While remote operation seems great, I would be more worried about the occasional lightning storms taking out antennas, radios and the computer.  I've had some nasty nearby lightning strikes in the past and when I lived several years ago, I had an 80 ft. tower which took a couple hits.  I realize insurance might cover this, but after a few hits the insurance company might start questioning claims...

Jerry N9AVY


Re: Remote Control Fun

boat.anchor@...
 

Jerry
I have been anxiously watching the past couple days. I am glad to report back that you definitely
appear to still be alive. I was worried we were being contacted from the other side on a freq that
we were not aware of. This could have got you in the record books.
TIC
Barry



---In 070@..., <n9avy@...> wrote :

While remote operation seems great, I would be more worried about the occasional lightning storms taking out antennas, radios and the computer.  I've had some nasty nearby lightning strikes in the past and when I lived several years ago, I had an 80 ft. tower which took a couple hits.  I realize insurance might cover this, but after a few hits the insurance company might start questioning claims...

Jerry N9AVY